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How long will I have to play UO?

       IF YOU'VE ALREADY READ THIS POST I'VE ADDED A FEW STORIES FOR YOUR ENJOYMENT

Ya know, I started playing UO at the beggining, and it was fantastic. The pvp was incredible, pking and getting pked was a monster rush. Housing, crafting, fishing, mining, treasure hunting, role-playing, UO had it all. Guild fighting was great and you havent lived until you tried house fighting, trying to cram a dozen people safely into a one room shack and fight from there was an art form to say the least. All was great right up until the aos patch, thats when all the vets left, myself included.

   Since SWG was coming out at about that same time I went there. I played for about a year or two and it wasn't bad, but the pvp was a bit of a let down without full looting, it kinda took the excitement out of it. Also the movement and therefore the fighting was a bit slower paced than UO. Crafting wasn't too bad albiet way to easy to GM out, and running the harvesters was kinda neat. Still I longed for the fast paced fighting of old school UO.

   When I realized that they would never bring looting in pvp to SWG no matter how many people asked for it, I moved on, (luckily, since I heard some patch ruined what was not too bad of a game). I tried EVE but mining asteriods all day just isnt my thing, and damn it, at least give me an avatar that I can see when im on station. Oh, I played Shadowbane,AO and jumpgate and lineage II and a bunch of others in between.

   Then a coupla years ago I hear about this great game thats coming out called WOW. Well, I of course buy it the day it comes out, I load her up, start playing and all I can think is, what a piece of crap, I'm a grown man and haven't been spoon fed like this in twenty years. I quit after three days, after a while people are raving about it, so I figure maybe I was too harsh and I give it another chance. I come to the realization that I was initially right, this game is a joke.

   I've noticed with each game I played, movement was progresively slower, my computer rocks it just that you move so damn slow. I don't think the worlds in any of the new games are any bigger than that of UO, you just move so damn slow it feels like they are. Everything is slower, from casting spells to drinking pots. I played Vanguard, I can say that now and it's the same damn thing as all the rest.

   I want a game where I move at a respectible speed. I don't want quests shoved down my throat. I don't want to have my hand held. I don't want to be forced to group. I don't want an instanced dungeon all to my friggin self. I don't want things neatly stacked in my backpack, I want my backpack to be a pigsty it feels more realistic, when I take something out of my backpack I want to see it setting on the ground not "do you want to discard this item" and then it disappears, again it lacks realism. All these things take away from any immersion you might feel.

   When I PVP I want your stuff, plain and simple I want to loot you right down to your worthless body sash. I don't want some stupid 20-vs-20 battle in an instanced zone where you win some epic item, WTF, I want YOUR stuff. I wanna dance by you wearing that worthless body sash. I'm sorry, but the thrill of saying I pwnzed U, just isn't enough. Don't link my pots together thats just plain old stupid, and for goodness sakes let me bandage in combat I don't need it when the fights over. When I die, don't make me do a stupid corpse run. But I digress

   So about a month ago I started playing UO on a free server with the old rule set and its pretty damn good. However, since you pretty much can buy your characters stats up for a donation, it isn't quite the same. Also the population is a tad low. When is someone going to make a good game to replace UO, It was like the first mmorpg there was and it still the best. To all you old school mmorpg gamers out there I ask the question, How long will I have to play UO?

   Since no games on the horizon look as if they can pick up where old school UO left off all we have are memories, heres a few that should keep us hoping that someone will actually make a decent game.

                                                   THE STORIES

   THE ULTIMATE NOOB..........On about the tenth day of playing UO I was out fighting goats, (these were mountain goats mind you, real tough stuff). I was outside of vesper when I came across the rarest of the rares, the coveted black pearl just lying there on the ground. My heart leapt to my throat as I picked it up, shakily I placed it in my backpack as I ran for town, praying I wouldn't be pk'ed before I was able to bank what I knew was the ultimate prize. After placing that dark shining orb safely into my bank I strode with new found confidence out into the world of sosaria, knowing my financial future was secure.

   THE TRICKY SWITCH..........After a couple of weeks I decided to make another character, the problem was, how to give my new guy the the resources he needed so he wouldn't have to start from scratch. I had a plan, I would put stuff in a bag, hide it behind the bank, then run my guy up from the inn to pick it up, the plan was brilliant, so I gave it a test run with a few items and it worked like a champ. I then placed a whole wack in a bag. I ran up from the inn with my new character basking in my genius, when I got to the bank my stuff was gone, unbeknownst to me I was being watched I realized as I heard a voice, "whats the matter, lose your stuff noob, lol." I was shattered, I wasn't a genius I was a fool, the only thing that kept me going was knowing that I still had my black pearl.

   THE MAD BOMBER..........After being pk'ed in orc valley for the umpteenth time I decided it was time to exact my revenge, and I had a plan. I went to a vendor and bought ten greater explosion potions, this was back when you could throw them in rapid succession. I had never used them before so I tried one out, easy enough, double click and throw. I ran back to orc valley and saw my enemies, knowing my vengance was at hand I cried out, "REMEMBER ME." Seething with anger I double clicked all the potions to ensure their total destruction, unfortunately I never actually threw them and I exploded in a blinding flash. The one pk asked the other, "who the hell was that?" His friend replied, "I dunno, just some moron I guess."  As my ghost ran off, ashamed and embarrased but a little wiser, I consoled myself with the comfort of my black pearl.

   THE SAD REVELATION..........I was now ready to buy my first one room shack, but I was still about eight thousand gold short. After agonizing over it I decided it was time to sell my black pearl. I took my precious gem to the jewelers but oddly enough they didn't want it. Hmm, oh well I thought, I'll just sell it privately, surely someone will pay me a kings ransome for such an exquisite prize. I tell everyone in town that I have a black pearl for sale and the bidding will start at ten thousand, a hundred lol's pop up on the screen and someone says, "hey buddy, it's a reagent, they cost three gold apiece in the mage shop."  Being  warrior I had no need of reg's, I ran to the mage shop and discovered the horrifying truth, the pearl was worthless. My house would have to wait.

   MY FIRST HOUSE..........They say that a mans home is his castle and it's soooo true. I finally placed my house and couldn't have been more proud. After moving all my belongings into the house, minus the black pearl which I threw on the ground in disgust, I decided to do a bit of decorating. Several hours later it was finished and it's beauty verily glowed. I decided to sit in my wooden chair with the inlaid red cloth out on the front steps and relax. With my house key safely tucked in my backpack I hadn't a care in the world. A respectible looking fellow walks up and asks, "Hey Havoc, how do I get to brittian?" Well, what kind of a person would I be if I didn't help a fellow travler in need? After I finished my long winded explanation on directions to brittian I notice a message that says, so-and-so is attempting to steal from you. He steals my key goes inside and locks me out of my own house.  Eventually I get over it and move on to bigger and better things, much, MUCH wiser than I was before.

   These are just a few stories from my very early days on UO. As the years went by playing UO the stories grew of great victories and hilarious defeats. Never, has any other game given this much enjoyment. I'm still playing today but with a low population and what I now consider a small world, I just wish something new would come along to replace the greatness that was UO. So I ask again. How long will I have to play UO.

   One more thing, if anyone has some really good stories, just write em down cause I'd love to read them.

  

  

  

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  • jeppahjeppah Member Posts: 56
    i doubt there will ever be one that has the same good gameplay as UO. everything is all about eye candy now it seems.



    Hopefuly when all the eye candy mmo's have been out for a few years they might start to think about makeing good gameplay to keep people playing :p
  • AnagethAnageth Member Posts: 2,217
    I sure do miss UO, there was nothing more exciting than running through Buc's Den or around Yew gate at 4-5pm trying to find reds. To answer your question though, I'm afraid to say - forever. There are no games, no games, which match the gameplay style UO presented it's players. Of course there are some who may try and mimic this gameplay, like Darkfall, but it's just not the same. Sorry mate, you will be with UO for a long, long time.

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  • olepiolepi Member EpicPosts: 3,064
    If you want fast action, try City of Heroes or City of Villains. The RPG aspect might be a little shallow, but you can fly, run 60mph, teleport, and cast spells at once per second. I play it whenever I get tired of slowly trudging through other games.

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  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232

    Sorry we cant possibly allow that..........

    Looting a persons corpse after you have brutally killed them in combat would be cruel and thats not the kind of friendly murdering environment we want in our otherwise extremely violent games.

     

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  • WARCRYtmWARCRYtm Member Posts: 875

    The more i know about this game, the more i like it. (UO)

    Is there a free trial?Server have a good population?

  • MalianeaMalianea Member Posts: 314
    Darkfall is supposedly going to be very classic UO'ish... if it ever sees the light of day.



    As far as looting your slain enemey, I loved it. Replacing most items was not that difficult once you were mid-range on your skills, so it was not usually a crushing blow to lose your things. However, it still added a level of excitement I have not seen in any other (and I have played 20 other games since) MMO to date. Even if your things can be replaced in a few minutes, you still don;t want to lose them. It is simply Human nature.



    I too wait for the day we have a quality classic UO alternative. I'll enjoy losing my things as much as I enjoy looting yours. Either way it would still be the most exciting fight I've had in years!

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  • elvenangelelvenangel Member Posts: 2,205

    Ahh the very reason I quit UO multiple times...course now i just quit cause there's no quest system.  There's not a large enough community that'll stick around and make the company lots of money over time to make another original UO style game.  Course if someone is making one (already plans not to buy it)

     

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  • slowcomslowcom Member Posts: 3
    I know the feeling man.  I've been craving old school UO for a LONG time now.  I can't get into any other game like I did with UO.  I tried them all too... WoW, GW, L2... nothing did it for me.  There are a few servers that almost capture the feel of the way it used to be but they are not quite there.  If OSI/EA would just put up ONE server that has the old rule set they would have a lot of people returning to pay for the 10+ year old game.



    For those of you guys that don't know how to get to the free servers you can download UOGateway and that lists almost every free server there is.   But there isn't many that have the old school feel. 
  • MaeEyeMaeEye Member UncommonPosts: 1,107
    awsome post man!  I do miss the UO days too!  It's the little things, like putting items on the ground that I miss, the unorganized backpack that I miss, the whole only see people talk on your screen miss.  I just miss UO in general.  It's sad though, I don't think anyone will ever make a game like UO again, simpily because we all want the same thing, to be the best at what we do.  If we can't be the best, then why bother?  Why work our butts off like we did in UO and overcome the rest?  Now it's all about levels, loot, bragging about level and more leveling.  I'm tired of it too man.  Vanguard is my last hope, to be honest.  It seems like the only game that will bring "some" of the UO feeling back...Houses, mounts early on, ships.  Unfortunetally it's not totally UO, it's EQ with a bit of UO.  I guess life as an ex-UOer will never be fullfill.
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  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441
    i dont see why developers dont make games with a skill system such as UO or runescape.  It seems like they both allow for a player to much more easily strech the available content to its max.  I have always been more inclined to do everytihng a game has to offer with skill based systems because i am not faced with the daunting task of starting ANOTHER alt which i would have to level up AGAIN.  Skill based games therefore have kept me around longer because i actually do everything in game, not just whatever my specific class is supposed to do
  • OhaanOhaan Member UncommonPosts: 568
    Originally posted by WARCRYtm


    The more i know about this game, the more i like it. (UO)
    Is there a free trial?Server have a good population?
    Alas, todays UO is not the game that people usually reminisce about. Around about the time that Everquest and Asheron's Call came out, EA took UO in a PvE direction in order to compete with them. To play the original ruleset you have to get on an independent shard and no, they usually don't have a good population.
  • TranquilityTranquility Member Posts: 171
    I'm personally still playing UO. It's a shadow of it's former self, but it's still the best mmorpg out there. The only chance we might get about something like uo used to be is a server with the old ruleset on it. A lot of players are asking for it, and who knows... But hey, you could allways join siege perilous... I dont have the heart to throw all my old characters out the door though.
  • slowcomslowcom Member Posts: 3
    Originally posted by Tranquility

    I'm personally still playing UO. It's a shadow of it's former self, but it's still the best mmorpg out there. The only chance we might get about something like uo used to be is a server with the old ruleset on it. A lot of players are asking for it, and who knows... But hey, you could allways join siege perilous... I dont have the heart to throw all my old characters out the door though.
    If you go to boards.stratics.com/php-bin/uo/showflat.php it says that they will never ever make a 'retro' server.







    From old Read-Only FAQ board (Updated 10/23/2001)



    This FAQ was originally posted by Cynthe





    Will you ever create a pre-UOR rules shard?



    No.



    Turning back time three years to reinstate the code as it was then is not possible, and there have been far too many improvements and additions made to the game since then to create a new shard without those!



    We also have no current plans to get rid of the Trammel or Felucca ruleset.
  • kidRiotkidRiot Member Posts: 209

    I feel for you too.

     

    Lineage 2 has pvp looting.  I havent played it though, but i am very tempted, even though its a huge grind fest.

     

    UO was simply amazing, and i believe was ahead (and still is) of its time.  Now, it seems almost all games that come out, MMOs, FPS, RTS feel dumbed down, and full of eye candy.

    From EAs BF2, to WoW to Vanguard.  There all dumbed down.  The games have no risks, no penalties, no nothing.  Im an EQ vet also.  That game had steep penalties for dying at higher levels, and corpse runs, man.  In games like WoW, nothing really happens when you die.  And WoW PVP, dont even get me started.

    Judging from all the upcoming MMOs, its going to be a very long time until we see anything close to UOs scale.  Games still focus on levels, not professions.

    Wait til 2010, thats when BioWares MMO would probably launch, as well as Fallout Online.  We just have to figure out what to play until then.

  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253
    Originally posted by Anageth

    I sure do miss UO, there was nothing more exciting than running through Buc's Den or around Yew gate at 4-5pm trying to find reds. To answer your question though, I'm afraid to say - forever. There are no games, no games, which match the gameplay style UO presented it's players. Of course there are some who may try and mimic this gameplay, like Darkfall, but it's just not the same. Sorry mate, you will be with UO for a long, long time.



    I had a GM Tinker called "Ol Trapper John" and I used to trap all the openable chest in Bucs Den and then just wander about ganking NPC's till I got the message "your karma has reduced by XXX" and I knew someone had found one of my little suprises. Then Id casually head over and loot them.... maybe do a little amatuer autopsy on thier corpse  

    It still doesnt get any better than UO.....

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  • suskesuske Member Posts: 714

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MG1N2xeZxTU

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  • RazorbackRazorback Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 5,253
    Yeah thats been looking promising for a while now... nice to see they dont appear to be rushing it either.

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  • b0rderline99b0rderline99 Member Posts: 1,441

    what i have been wondering about game is, is it FPS style or point and click style?

    i remember looking at the website and everytihng pointed towards a "target mob or player then click attack" sort of approach, but that video deffinely looked as though it were FPS

  • MaeEyeMaeEye Member UncommonPosts: 1,107
    It would be amazing if someone decided to start copying UO, becomes popular, then goodbye to EQ style games.  We'd all just see UO types.  Wouldn't that be great?  Just a bunch of UO's to pick from.  I would really love Darkfall to come through and maybe hit the market a bit, but we have to wait.  Also, what about the game Richard was making?  Tabula Rasa.  Is he using the same old UO interface or did he fall for the $$$$ EQ clones too?
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  • phanatxphanatx Member UncommonPosts: 41
    I dont think any game will be anything close to UO when it started, and that  is a travesty. You would think with all the advances in computer technology and programming that they would be able to come up with a product that can rival a 10 year old MMO. Problem is they cant.



    These days its spoonfed crap that looks pretty. No drama, no skill, no nothing.



    I remember having the shakes just moving south out of Moonglow trying to get to the cemetary to train up swords.. and having to run through Muderers Row (Catskills sever) More reds per square inch then any other part..lol..



    Not to mention from the beginning, you could visit ANY part of the map and survive.. not well, but you could.



    PvP took skill, both in the process and in character building. There was no button mashing, but you had to plan out everything, and hope that it worked, otherwise you were saying OOoooOOOOo (expletitive), and replacing everything you carried in your inventory.



    UO was also a great guild game - it did not matter your skill level, you could travel as a group anywhere and have fun.



    Sure there were PKers.. especially that one guy called Unibomber that used to shower the people at the Bone wall with purple pots, then cast an energy field so they couldnt escape the spawn... ahh  what great memories...





    Since then I have played just about every PvP style game out there, and none come close to the daddy of them all.. Ultima Online. Shadowbane came close, but just didn't have it.



    No game will have the amount of difference between chartacters, the ability to do whatever you wanted at any time. If you wanted a stright fighter, fine.. a mage fighter, fine.. a bard/mage, great.. etc.. there wre no true classes, no "uberbuild".. it was all determined on how you PLAYED.



    Roleplaying was the best on UO also.. i remember on catskills, they had a caveman guild that was absolutely hilarious. If I remember correctly they were the "Brudahuud ub Cavemun" aka BC.... runnin around in kilts smackin sheep with clubs... too damn funny.



    Perhaps we are just looking back on our time in UO with rose colored glasses on, but I now know a lot of old guildmates that have gone back to UO, even with the lame expansions of AoS and the Samurai legends.. or whatever that was...asnd they are enjoying it just as much as they used to.



    Perhaps game designers should take a peek back at what UO did, and realize that they had it right from the beginning. We dont need any more games that you can play in a coma... ala WOW, give us a game that makes you THINK, that actually makes you have to PLAY... please..
  • sXeSasquatchsXeSasquatch Member Posts: 37
    Havoc, your post was touching. Seriously, it was the best read I've had to date, because I feel the exact same way. I played on a freeshard UO, and I actually still log in it from time to time. The games you've played, I've played and felt the same. My hopes that remain are Darkfall (if it ever comes out with it's promised features) and AoC, although I'm not too knowledge about AoC, it just seems more hardcore imo than the others coming out this year.
  • slowcomslowcom Member Posts: 3
    Man this thread keeps getting more and more depressing. 



    Maybe UO is ruined all of the other games for me?  If I would have never played UO at all then all of the other games I've tried to play would have not sucked so bad.  That was the first game I was really into and it set the bar extremely high in my eyes.  Nothing has even come close.  The only other game that I thought was on par with it on the intense level of PvP was maybe Gears of War.  Maybe.  But GoW gets old fast and very repetitive.  At lease you could do a 2v1 or a 3v1 in UO and with a little bit of luck walk away the victor.  Does anyone play UO now on an OSI server?  After reading all of this I almost want to reactive my account and see if it's worth playing there... just for the memories.
  • jackdeth66jackdeth66 Member Posts: 18

       Havoc, those stories brought tears to my eyes. I too am still playing because nothing else can compare. Hope is all we have, hope that someone will finally give us content on eye candy.

       BTW, best post I ever read.

  • sempiternalsempiternal Member UncommonPosts: 1,082

    Pre-Renaissance Ultima Online was the most exciting and exhilarating MMOG to date.  It really was a virtual world packed with all types of players because separate types of RP, PvP, PvE servers or realms did not exist.  And it was brutal too.  Just try to Imagine being able to dismember and decapitate another player with an axe and pick up their body parts in any MMOG today.  Or the ability to steal nearly anything another player might be carrying.  The game had the potential for real danger around every corner.  The game world was not so massive that the playerbase was spread too thinly and teleporting or recalling to other parts of the world was limited due to only having runes that you could lose upon death and most warrior types needing scrolls to recall about, which could also be lost or stolen.  As a result every town was full of players running about shopping, fighting, fishing, crafting and selling.

    What a legendary game!

    Unfortunately, Electronic Arts did an outstanding job ruining Ultima Online, piece by piece, year by year.  Many players tried to hang on as long as they could, even through all the horrible changes.  But, you can only take so much garbage from a corporation like EA, whose sole purpose is to try to make a quick buck rather than developing a good game that players will enjoy playing in the long term.

    For the most part, the MMOG industry which was founded upon quality virtual world game products has now evolved into a mass-market video game money maker.

  • MunkiMunki Member CommonPosts: 2,128
    That story brought back so many memories of UO.

    Especially when I decided I wanted to be a pick pocket cause I heard all the stories of huge steals. Went to go try it, the guy noticed I was looking in his backpack and proceeded to kick my ass and take everything.

    UO was harsh. But when you lost it was annoying, but it crippling.

    A house and a large dragon boat :) were the only things I really had to spend time to get, the rest was rather fast. Most PvP was done naked with just reagents, or a death robe.

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