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This game IS NOT worth it.
GeeViouS
Member Posts: 13
I'll try to keep this short. I was one of the mmorpg.com beta winners for this game... Since I have started testing it, I would have to say this is one of the worst mmorpg's I have plaied.
With the Hackers, Scammers, Lack of updates to their site/fourms to keep the testers informed on what they are doing, NOT answering our feedback and or questions on the forum by any staff whatsoever of "CIB" or whatever company it may be that owns the english rights to this game. Not to mention the bad translation job. Now heres another thing...
RYL is worse than the worse and simply cannot compete in the American MMO market. For starters, it has maybe at very most 10,000 "followers" of the game, all of which gotta be f**kin morons or are from other countries and just happen to speak english fairly well. As of the writing of this post, they have 1669 members signed up on their forums. There is simply no way for this game to survive here.
RYL says they offer you real-time combat instead of "turn based" like other MMOs. This is "false advertising" of their game to say the least. Real-time combat's extent is holding down the left mouse button to mindlessly swing away your weapon, which is the equivalent of clicking on the mob and letting the damn game do all the work for you. Every now and then, about the equivalent of once a battle, you throw in your "special move" using right-click. This same exact click is used whether your in click and wait combat or hold and bore combat.
Well this wouldn't be a problem if you actually had some f**king skills to use in this thing they label a game. I think Super Mario Bros. 3 had as many skills (shoot fireballs, racoon tail, star, etc.) as each class has in this pathetic game. Specializing in all of your skills at low levels is something only a moron would do. Before level 10, you have a wonderful selection of 4 abilities to choose from (Demon Combatant, but if you look at both races they are basically f**kin copies of each other, to a way worse extent than L2). These choices encompass, your 1 right click attack, 2 different "wpn spec skills" (this technically means 1 less ability) and a defense buff I am only level 44, but it is quite obvious nothing changes in this game at higher levels. The only difference is going to be is you may have 2 or 3 skills instead to right-click to your heart's contetnt, or until your skill is available again. Once you hit level 10, you now have every skill available to you for the rest of your career, as far as I know. You get 5 or so abilities depending on your class. As an Attacker you get 1 skill that is exactly the same as a Templar, which DOES NOT require any skill "points". On top of this, Attackers get another skill, very similar to the Templar's skill, that DOES NOT require any skill "points" as well. Basically, you are given two skills you cannot improve, thus reducing the grand total of abilities down to 3. Two of the three abilities are attacks, and speccing in two different attack skills is retarded until you can "max out" your current ability. This game has less customization than Diablo 2, DAoC, Ragnarok Online, et cetera.
Gaining skill is pretty retarded along with a lot of this game. They use a system JUST LIKE DIABLO I. You get the skill scroll that you need and right click to gain in your skill as long as you have enough "room" AND you meet the stat requirements. You get "2" stat points to use, but after a certain point it takes 2 points to increase your stats by one, which is EXTREMELY LOW. This means that for most of the game you are only really getting 1 skill point. Demons have to wait till lvl 10 to get stat points, and change class. When you change class, you also get stats automatically upped, depending on you class. Changing class is one of the few cool things in this game, unlike any other MMO I've played. I really can't describe it, but one of the few things they have done right. Class also determines what automatic stats will go up, and this contributes to unbalanced classes.
Certain classes, such as Attacker, are completely worthless when compared to Templars, due to the retarded system of the game. Templars can compete dmg wise with Attackers, yet have VASTLY superior defense and hps. This is due to the retarded system of stats/items they implemented in their designed of this game.
They decided to implement some gay system, where the race with less players gets an xp bonus and in the PvP areas, they also get a level bonus. The other race gets penalties to xp and a penalty to level in PvP. This is their solution to keeping the races balanced it seems, but is pretty bad considering all the classes are fairly the same to begin with between races...
The only good part about this game is leveling isn't too bad due to fairly low downtime.
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Without the profanity I would have to say this would be a pretty good post
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First of all, Sorry that I swore alot. I got very frustrated just thinking about the game. Heh, I'll try and be more "proper" on my next post.
Secondly... Yea I'm surprised too and yes it was a big waste of time. I like to test these beta games as fast and continuous. Along with that If I get lucky enough to get to the higher levels of the mmorpg and if I happen to like the game.. I P2P for it. So then I know where everything is, well for the most part. I'm big on exploring the wolrds in mmorpgs... Just a thing I would call a habbit.
GeeViouS
I stopped playing before I got to the point where I wanted to use profanity, but I can certainly understand how this game could induce that kind of response.
I agree with the substance of the message. I just can't believe that I was so excited to get into this beta.
I will try again once beta stabilizes a little.
Keep your spirits up guys. As it turns out, CiB has been lying and misleading us all along. They are only licensed to release the Malaysian version of the game. Planet Wide Games ( www.planetwidegames.com ) has the licensing to release the North American version of the game.
I've spoken ( on the phone ) with PlanetWide's CEO, MIS, Lead Programmer and Lead Developer and others on a conference call. Keep an eye on their site and www.rylsanctuary.com for updates and information on this REAL ENGLISH version.
Down with CiB!!!
GeeViouS
CiB has been deleting my posts and I'm done with that site. I check back every once in a while to check my PMs there, but that's it. I won't post there anymore.
You see, CiB is getting into a lot of trouble from Youxiland, Inc. I've learned a lot in the past few days about how cirrupt the online gaming industry is in the Far East. Companies will hire someone to get hired at another company to steal their code, and so much more foul play, you really couldn't imagine. CiB seems like this kind of company. They are licensed to release the Malaysian version only. Since the Malaysian version will be English ( or more appropriately Engrish ) they figured they could get a lot more subscribers and money by pulling in an "International" community.
Well, ETan has been backing up, and had even removed old posts that could have incriminated him ( stupid me for point them out to him, I should have just pointed them out to Youxiland, Inc. ).
Anyways, Youxiland, Inc. is really interested in seeing this game work internationaly and especially in the North American market, where Planet Wide Games has the licensing rights. I understand the bitterness towards RYL with the crap CiB has pulled with us, however, that bitterness should be directed towards CiB, not RYL. RYL is still a great game and will be, just give it another chance with Planet Wide Games, you won't be disappointed.
I'll be stopping in here, every so often to keep this community updates. I'm very interested in seeing this game work and have a large community.
See ya's around!
Spintz what is your connection with the dev's that you can have a conference call with them and post this info without question? I'm just curious because you haven't introduced yourself as anyone "special".
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Spintz, You do realize that the game will still be the same. Nothing will change besides the translation. No matter who releases this game. There will not be any new maps, quests, items, races, classes, ect...
Now for your posts over there. I havent seen any, I mean I see you post every once in a while but nothing about this stuff... I still check the forums on there frequently. Just after I posted my last reply I posted "CIB is Not Publishing this for North America!" which has quotes from you & from planetwidegames.com & such. Oddly enough I guess since I also posted the main post on this thread there, No one replied to it. So someone else posted "Most Interesting"...
Now one of the Mods on that forum has posted that "CiB does not have the rights to publish RYL as an International Version. Yes, that's true. It's just we are trying to launch an English version of it. Youxiland has sold the rights to publish it in NA which I didn't know till recently..haha..sorry to say."
So now I have proof. Yet you still try to defend this game... I just hope you realize that this game will not be changed at all when released in america/wherever else. There are no expansions. This beta is pretty much the full game minus like a handful at the most of things.
GeeViouS
I am the Admin of RYL Sanctuary. Planet Wide Games realizes that RYL Sanctuary has the most English information on this game than any other site ( including CiB's ). The team at Planet Wide wasn't actually ready to go public, they wanted to get more done on their side beforehand however, when they saw I was going to drop RYL Sanctuary because of CiB's incompetence, they let me know about them and that they were going to go public now.
I've spoked to Craig, an MMORPG Admin before and I will email him again soon with some information.
You need to understand that this version of RYL that CiB has given us is such an old out dated version. Check out even the Thai version of RYL at www.rylwin.com. They have a later version, with more stuff and the newer graphics engine already, and they released pretty much the same time as CiB did with the Malaysian version. CiB is really just not a competent company.
You haven't seen any recently, because I've stopped. My last few posts were quoting ETan's previous posts on the forums where he was saying that their version of RYL was as much the International version as it was the Malaysian version. Him coming outright and saying that, would be against his agreement with Youxiland. CiB figured they could get away with it, because they didn't know of Youxiland's plan's to release other English version's. It seems Youxiland is interested not in releaseing language based versions, but location based, such as North America, Malaysia, Tawiwan, Chinese, Thailand, and more to come I'd imagine. BTW, ETan and KC both work for CiB.
Yes, finally ETan and CiB is admitting they only have the rights for the Malaysian version and now they are back peddling, IMO. Their attitude was much different before all of this information came to light, anyone who was active on their forums beforehand knows there was no statement like this from ETan, KC or CiB claiming they were only the Malaysian version ( in fact, there were posts that I had found that had them pushing it as the International Version ). Those posts were also deleted. CiB was due to get into a lot of trouble with Youxiland if they found out that they were pushing the International version. The only reason you're even seeing what you are now out of CiB is that Youxiland is pressuring them to correct how they had originally misled us.
I do defend this game. It's a great game. Many of your points will be addressed in later version, CiB was just incapable of releasing those version quickly at all as well as did not care to answer questions about what would be in the future versions. Like I said, keep an eye on RYL Sanctuary. I'm going to skim over your oiriginal post and try to inform you on any updates that are in the current Taiwan versions ( which should be in the release Malaysian and North American version ) and post back to let you know.
Hacker, Scammers and Lack of Updates will not be the case with Planet Wide Games. They are already communicating with the community on RYL Sanctuary forums. They will be very adamant about removing anyone cheating/hacking or whatever from the game immediately. They will be using nProtect and are negotiating the details of that right now.
Judging a game by the forum members is rather unintelligent honestly. RYL Sanctuary only has slightly over 400 members on our forums, however we're getting about 1.5 million hits a month! There will be much more of an English community this time around, as the version you are basing your opinions off of is a Malaysian version, run by a very immature company in CiB with exactly the problems you described. It WILL be different with Planet Wide Games.
I agree there aren't a ton of skills, but that's not what the game is about. There is so much more to see in the end game I can't even begin to dump all that info here. This combat system is BY FAR better than any other MMO out there. L2, DAoC, I've played em all. This combat system is far more real time. Try playing a human rogue class where you can do backflips/cartwheels.
I see you're complaining about holding down the mouse button to attack. Well, you could click it everytime you want to attack, or you could still go in Mouse Mode and click once and then afk for some soda and chips like every other game other there. The only thing L2 and DAoC and other MMO games may have on RYL is a crafting system and that's about it.
I can't emphasize enough, how much CiB has given the community a bitter taste of the game and that you really have to give it another chance with a better company in Planet Wide Games. They are very commited to bringing the North American market the experience they should have had all along. Please, give the game another chance.
I hear you on alot of this stuff... My point still remains that this game is the same and not worth the time at all.
You say "as the version you are basing your opinions off of is a Malaysian version, run by a very immature company in CiB with exactly the problems you described. It WILL be different with Planet Wide Games." & "You need to understand that this version of RYL that CiB has given us is such an old out dated version. Check out even the Thai version of RYL at www.rylwin.com. They have a later version, with more stuff and the newer graphics engine already"
But if you would pay attention... that link you show there points to "an up to date version". I still see the same bloody maps, skills, classes, items, races and ect... THERE IS NOTHING NEW THERE!!!!!!!
Okay sure there might be a few hidden items from these so called (and yet to be seen) "boss mobs" for each map. It's still the same damn thing that is in beta right now. I highly doubt that your so called saviour of this game (planetwidegames) will change the game or revamp it as it were, to have new items, new maps, new skills..and ect... I'm pretty sure that would be breaking some kind of publishing laws or copyright something. I'm no law student so I wouldnt exactly know. I'm not trying to make you mad, upset nor to even get you to side with me and all my opinions... I just want to see you say "Yes, this game will not have any added features to make it diffrent from the other versions." Or something along those lines. You can keep saying that this game will be better and I'm sure it will be for most. But bro, honestly... it doesnt matter who releases this game, it is still going to be the same game.
Now to get a better idea on how you rate your games and such, would you mind telling me which other mmorpg's you have played besides RYL, L2 & DaOC?
GeeViouS
I've played tons of MMO's. Daoc, Shadowbane, Ultima Online, SWG, RYL, Knight Online, Planetside, BiosFear ( Savage Eden ), FFXI, and a bunch more I can't remember anymore.
Anyways, the point here is, the RYL from Planetwide Games will be much better support. They are also big fans of the game, and do have input to Youxiland for future developments of the game. They can't directly change things in the game like that, but they can definitely take our input and let Youxiland know about it. They have a great team there at Planetwide, very nice and very dedicated to the game.
I'm not gonna keep gonig back and forth with ya, I just don't want everyone to be turned off by what you've all seen from CiB as a very incomplete and poorly managed version of Risk Your Life. Be sure to differentiate between the Malaysian CiB version of RYL and what will be a much better Planetwide North American version of RYL.
See ya in the NA version!
I have to add a point. Korean made 3d mmorpg are all the same....they have the graphical potential of a great game but they just realease the game when its in ALPHA. Yes.....you will see that all 3d korean mmorpg have..
1) Small world
2) VERY little char customisation
3) VERY little items
4) Nothing to do beside leveling
Look how many years RO(i know its nt 3d) took to get to this state...although it still boring to many pple. Adding to that....the fact that u could bot easily in ro makes it no longer a game. As for RYL....its gonna be like any other korean mmorpg----> looks nice but no future.
I for 1 feel the same feeling towards the game as everyone else. I kept a constant watch on the forums and realized like everyone else that the game might fall because the lack of reponsibility CIB has toward the community and the game itself. RYL (in beta) lacks alot (or sux alot). But, when the game was released in malaysia, someone said that the graphics were 10 times better then this and there were more skills, more weapons, more armor, more everything basically and eventually the famous anti-hack program. Now if anyone speaks malaysian (or whateva the language is there sorry
) and played the game they can let me know or give us all an update of the game currently if not done already. BUT despite that, its only beta. Its like we were expecting so much from RYL Beta, compared to other beta. We should be basing our comments on the released version.
And yall might not believe me but I knew there was somthing wrong with CIB the moment i entered the game. I mean seeying a few people... sorry sorry, i'm misleading you... Not a few.. no no my friends not a few, ALOT of fockin people dissapear in the distance in a sec. WHY.. And I wonder why hacking was never removed. It might have been planned but why was it PLANNED. It should have came out on phase 1 of the FOCKIN GAME
. But thanx for the update Spintz. Its like they didnt care much for us english speaking people. Its was they're way of making us go crazy. I bet everyone in the Asian territories was havin a cup of tea n' some cheese while they tested the game. While we was grindin our teeth at the SOB. But its still a good game in my opinion. Spintz, all this info, planetwidegamez betta do somethin quick or the community is gonna die.. quick.........
And y'know peeps dat have not tried the game yet, dont base everything off forums.. forums can really mess you up. It can change youre opinion about a game real quick. Tho if everyone is against the game then you dont have much of a choice then to believe them but for example, WOW. Peeps be like this game is beginning to suck because....blabla. I almost fell for it, but then realized that "I" needed to try the game for myself. And I have yet to see what they meen.. but RYL, shoot.. People be like this game is the turn of the century (I'm exaggerating) and I had to find out so applied for beta and won. And I liked it. SO try the game
But... until that cold morning I entered the "Arena".. I couldnt kill a freakin demon because he was using hacks and so made me lagg like a BIATCH
, and then watched it rape 5 other moda focin guys in secs. Forgive me but y'know.. 
OH and about the arena I like how they made that work.... Its different..... Like for those who dont know, you guard these 3 towers or go claim the towers. And you get honor points for guarding them ( or sitting there) then you can buy special items with your honor points at the center tower. It might not be the best idea but its.... different.... sorry for my digresssion
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I have one question tho, it might have been answered already... somewhere... in time and space...
I've always thought that if a game is created and released in a paticular country for example China or Malaysia (
), and they want to release the game in other countries, English speaking countries, I figured the game would only be translated and then released. No beta required... or they have beta for the english speaking countries but it would go threw the stages very quickly lots of updates etc.. and Open beta for general public critics and then release. Maybe someone could explain that to me.
JE
I got tired of the game after the first few days simply because its overwhelmed with speedhackers which makes it unplayable
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This has zero reasons to even try it. The hackers are almost welcomed by devs.Complain about them on tester forums and get told to wait for some mythical anti-hack code once full release! Yeah right lol.
Devs are happy to have morons hackin their servers as it stresses the whole system more ( or so they think)
Just avoid this.Its simple. And it doesnt matter a whole lot who is going to run any redneck version since at end of the day the coding and patching etc will still come from malaysia.Its just like the DAoC situation with mythic and GOA.
@ Spintz: Okay I was making sure, I had a feeling that you had only played a few and were making opinions based on those few games. But as I can see you have played more than I.
Ok...ROFL!!! Why didnt you say that in the first place?
I guess I jumped to conclusions and guessed at why you were saying that it would turn out better in the NA release.
It's cool, This whole thread was just my opinion sure I said "It's not worth the time...ect.." That was more so for me. I wasnt tellin anyone to listen to me at all. =P I would honestly have to say I am not one for imported mmo's, they are to diffrent from what I am used too and what I like. Least now I can understand where your coming from. All I can say is that I hope the game turns out the way you want it to.
@ Jiraiya-sama (Aka Ero-Sensi
): I would have to agree from what all I have played for imports. Me coming from a 3 year term with Everquest (which might I add was my first mmo)... I am used to a good amount of maps, items, character custom's, with a bunch of quests & some change.
I Would like to see the imported mmo's not be incomplete over-seas. I would rather wait a long time till they had pleanty of things/expansions, update...ect... to release the game in the states. If I am right, the Amercian & UK based mmorpgers are used to a mass selection of things to do in the game. So therefore their game wont even come close to compete with the states games. Sure it might be good for first timers and all or fanboy's/followers of the game. Heh, maybe its just me... dunno.
@Shadowdawnz: Yes, Your right it is only beta. Although The lack of support from this current beta (CiB) has already turned off so many people from this game. Beta or not, I have seen a javascript game in beta that had updates & kept the users informed ffs. It's like what is the point of having a beta if you don't care what happens or what people think and ect?
Yeah, All these games should have anti-cheating scripts/tool/whatever they are called... Before its even in alpha. Seriously, This was my first mmo that actually had those sorts of problems. I have seen worse games than this yet they didnt have this sort of problem.
Okay, Okay... so the whole "As of the writing of this post, they have 1669 members signed up on their forums. There is simply no way for this game to survive here." If thats what your getting at... I based that opinion on other mmo's. I have been on a good handful and in those there were at least over 100k + members on their forums who were active. Beta & The final version. So you might see it as a stupid comment that I made but I see it as a non-suceeding game right away.
As for your question, I'm not to sure on the matter. There are a few guesses I can make but I am sure you have already thought of them yourself.
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When some of the issues in RYL are fixed (Hacking, Translation, Content) it will be the closest thing to perfect compared to other MMOs that are out.
All of the Other games out have their game setup for maximum player time and profit. RYL i can login for 30 and have fun, not run a treadmill for levels. I've played lots of MMORPGs and this game feels like the most promising one.
I hate point and click games
there is no effort required, just click and walk away 