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Will Vanguard take away EVE players?
murdera2k6
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in EVE Online
i know they are completely different games but do u think VG will take players away?
please post ur comments here.
please place ur vote, thanks for ur time.
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Absolutely not.
Many EVE players are former SWG players and hence have a strong dislike for any game that SOE is involved with. Regardless, Vanguard looks like just another uninnovative MMO rushed to market.
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EvE is not as populated as WOW or in fact most mainstream MMOs but the community is solid, loyal and CCP is still on top of their game. Even after 3 or 4 years, CCP is still the best when it comes to customer support, innovation and such. They still care and love their community. As for the game itself, many are totaly in love with the genre and many more will in the future. People would be surprise on how strong and solid some MMOs are... heck.. even www.mankind.net is still up and that came out in 1998. (ok it's not as strong as it was lol)
The point is, Vanguard is an amazing MMO but don't be fooled by it's grandeur. Fantasy is starting to lose it's charm on many players... Vanguard also punish players with Mid-End computers and let's not neglect the fact that the word Sony scares alot of potential customer.
I've often thought about that simple question... Why did Microsoft and Sigil split? We might all hate Microsoft but the fact is this: They are NOT stupid and they didn't do much to keep Sigil affiliated with them. (I don,t know enough to actually give a full opinion on that but that's what I personaly think)
Still, I am still heading to Vanguard... :P But deep down, i'm just waiting on EVE Avatar expansion!
I used to play EVE myself, and I think it's one of the best (if not the best) MMORPG's I have ever played. BUT it required too much time, to both make money and then spend hours, guarding jumpgates, in order to keep up safety for others. (that's why I probally took 2 years to get a Battleship)
Vanguard has more exciting solo-stuff, than EVE. And your missions/quests are not random, from an agent. So you can play for 20 mins, if you like. EVE requires between 30 mins, to 4 hours, to complete a mission, and you never know how long that mission is, before you get it.
Let's face it, Vanguard is months away from being a playable game.
It is one of those MMO's that just ran out of money so they want us to pay for Beta testing their product now.
Lot's of buyers will try it and dump it.
Personally I have had enough of Sony products to last me a lifetime.
Can be seen very well on this graph http://www.mmogchart.com/Chart2.html. The plateau around Jan 05 is the months after WoW.
"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
The WoW line doesn't seem to plateau at all on its chart....just keeps climbing and climbing and climbing...but it's still a piss-poor chart.
The second problem is the distance between some of the updates for some mmorpgs but that's because several mmorpg companies refuse to give official subscription numbers, especially when they are falling. But that's something the graph maker can't do much about.
"Memories are meant to fade. They're designed that way for a reason."
I've tried the beta on that game it and refuses to capture my attention. It plays and looks just like EQ/EQ2/SWG and I am bored almost 10 mins after logging in each time. (Plus for some reason this is the first game that as i run along, the road passing by the bottom of my monitor makes me want to literally throw up. I must really be getting old.) My friend loves the hell out of it though, why? I have no idea.
Yes, Vanguard will take away the EVE players that are secretly wishing EVE was a grind gmae like EQ2 or WoW.
But those who like EVEs freeform sandbox, even if they give Vanguard a try, will be back in fairly short order. Or, that's my take anyway.
MMOGchart has been debunked repeatedly as 90 % crap and estimation. It is mostly touted by WoW players to demonstrate how pwn their game is.
Vanguard will likely draw people from each market, but as EQ1 and even Ultima Online have shown us, you can't kill an MMO. EQ1 still has the same amount of players it has had since pretty much ever. Vanguards particularly won't draw from current SoE games, since people will just buy the station pass ($25/month, SWG, EQ1, EQ2, TMO, Planetside, Vanguard subscription).
To say that a game that a gameof the calibur of VanGuard will set forth and take EvE players is a jackass statement. They are two totally different games to start with and the time that one has been out defiitly says alot about the game and the genre. How many fantasy mmorpgs are there? Too many thats what and they are all the frickin same in my opinion. Elves and dwarves and dragons and all that Bull Sh!t. I love fantasy mmorpgs but damn, we need some new blood a game that will do it like it has never been done.
EvE is just plain great. There is no other game out there in the same genre can compete with it, enough said.
So to sum it up EvE great , VanGuard okay.
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With a number of games coming out including vanguard, I'd say now is a good time to cut back on EvE a bit and try some different stuff. Just my view on things.
im going to go nuts if a new mmo dosnt come out soon that doesnt involve gay levels!
The standard for quality has been firmly set in place and Vanguard doesn't meet it. I've been in Vanguard beta since the first batch of public invites back in 2005 when Microsoft Game Studios was involved. Anyone who has played Eve, World of Warcraft, Guild Wars, or even Everquest 2 would take ten steps forward in Vanguard and puke. Unless and until a MMORPG raises the bar of quality, rather than flops around in the mud beneath it, the current MMO champs are not going to be affected much, if at all, by the lackluster titles coming down the pike these days.
New MMOs don't have to be revolutionary to pose a threat; just be polished and fluid. If a WoW player, for example, sits down to a new game and sees the character jitters around at ten frames per second with all graphics settings minimized, blocky pixelated hard-to-see user interface, unresponsive confusing controls, poor quality generic graphics and animations, etc. he will just shake his head in dismay and go back to playing WoW. Or Eve. Or GW.
Personally, the day a new MMO outshines the current crop can't get here soon enough for me. I'm just not holding my breath.
You need at least 3 months playtime to get a decent oppinion about anything unless you're content with just shouting inane childish oneliner nonsense.
It is amazing how many people will actually display their own stupidity by making blank statements about a given game without going into detail about it. It is the internet equivalent of hanging a sign around your neck saying "I'm the village idiot".
This year seems promising to me and it has already started. I'm not a current World of Warcraft player myself but a few of my friends has returned now that The Burning Crusade has been released. Next up is Vanguard. Whether or not it will draw players from EVE is non-consequential. That sort of statement implies that people only play one game which at least for my part is nonsense and in my view is propably mostly only true for teenagers.
Later on we'll have Age of Conan and Warhammer to look forward to. I think 2007 will be interesting.
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