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Will people be up for raiding after BC's release?

I think that we can agree that Burning Crusade equipment was a lot better than expected. I remember pre bc -guilds getting geared up for the burning crusade, by raiding for t3. Come BC and we find out that level 62+ items are just as good, if not better than raid gear. In classic WoW you were fully pimped in a t3, for good reason as it took more than just ordinary dedication to get your hands on. I think that somewhere, these raiders told themselves that all their cool loot would help them to get a head start in BC. Which it did. But not at all to the extent you could have expected given the time dedicated in getting the best equipment of pre BC- WoW.

I understand that these individuals must feel...angry. At least if they didn't raid for the fun of it. Now, t0- t3 is worthless. Too difficult to get, and pretty much useless. T4 and t5 is now paradigm of achievement, but will players raid for it, given what they saw done to t0-t3? Deep down you know that all these hours spend to get t5 will mean nothing come next expansion. Perhaps we will see a change in the raiding player type. Perhaps from now on people will only raid because they find it amusing, and with the new 25 man raid instances the presure on guild members to join for raids will lessen.

My highest toon is a level 41 NE priest on a PvE server. I have never seen MC, AQ, Naxxramas, or any other tier containing instance, nor had a purple item in my inventory. I just think that what Blizzard did to the Tier system is very inconsiderate to the people who have worked so hard to get tiered up.

Thanks.

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  • Insomnium138Insomnium138 Member UncommonPosts: 8
    Thats exactly why I stopped raiding with my guild. I hit 60 went on a few raids did some off-tanking. Then a friend got his hands on the BC beta and I got on his account and thought to myself, "raiding is useless right now." In fact I even cancelled my WoW subscription for a while. But for the raiding part of BC, I think Im up for it since itll be 25 man (its easier to get 25 comitted ppl than 40 "obviously")
  • KnightblastKnightblast Member UncommonPosts: 1,787
    I'm not losing any sleep over it.



    It makes sense that with levels gear goes out of date.  So right there it would be silly if AQ gear lasted until 70 -- that would be inconsistent with the rest of the game design, and with logic.  If anything that gear, which is accessible to level 60 characters, should (and does) give them an easier time levelling in Outlands.  I've spoken with people in Outlands who are still wearing their T2 and T3 at level 63-64 because it outclasses what they have seen dropped and rewaerded -- so they're getting their use for it.



    The complaints come not because the gear isn't being useful for several levels (which, after all, was putting it to a better use than preening around in the gear in front of the bank in Ironforge), but because the rewards and drops for everyone else closes the gap between T2/3 and the "regular joe" 60s in a mixture of greens and blues and the odd purple item here and there.  These folks are getting items as queest rewards and drops that instantly replace virtually all of their gear, and place them at a place that is very close to T2.  And that's what the complaining is about -- notice, it has nothing to do with the lack of usefulness of the T2 and T3 gear (that remains useful well into Outlands), but it has to do with the reduction of the "delta" between that gear and the gear that's available to the regular joe non-raider player in Outlands. 



    That's pretty revealing of the mindset.  The mindset is that "I acquired this gear so that I could be more ubar than others, and if Blizzard is giving others gear that helps them get closer to my ubarness, that ticks me off, even though my gear is still better than the gear that they are getting for at least 3-4 levels".  It's an attitude of wanting to preserve that degree of "superiority" that they "worked" for, and as a result an attitude that garners no sympathy from me. 



    If someone wants to raid, that's great.  But if the primary motive for raiding is to be more ubar than others such that you get upset when others get gear rewards that, while not quite as good as your gear, are nevertheless very good, you've really lost perspective on the game. 



    I think people will keep raiding in Outlands for the same reasons that they raided pre-TBC.  I think more guilds will get involved with the 25 man options than was the case with the 40-man raids.  And I expect it will be great fun.  But no raider should go about raiding to achieve some kind of a portable and permanent advantage over everyone else who can't or won't raid -- that's an illusion that's been dispelled by Blizzard thankfully.
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