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Having to search multiple fan sites for info is a pain.
Mrbloodworth
Member Posts: 5,615
Its starting to piss me off. We need an official forum. I’m tired of looking at 4 fan sites for dev statements, or information from other players..
Most of the info is conflicting, and the sites are not well put together or easy to navigate.
I just want one. official forums like normal.
EDIT: Example:
Here’s a good example.
On the press release on the official site, it says that the Server names have been published on http://www.vanguardsoh.com/, and its not.... There is a news that says goto an affiliate site with a link...a link to 10 different Fan sites...upon clicking any one of them. its not very clear where the list is... If its even there, in whatever format they choose to list them.
How is that helpful?
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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I can live without them. All the infos i need are in patch notes that appear on the launchpad.
And official boards are a whining fest anyways.
eqnext.wikia.com
as official as they can get, devs post here from time to time
Not always. Official boards form one solid community and contains one source for feedback from the developers.
The "Whining fest" only really occurs when developer feedback is nonexistent, or, ignores the player base. The attitudes on official forums are a direct creation of the attitudes that the developers, and PR cultivate. There are many games that do not have "Whining fests" on official boards. Its all in how you create the tone as the PR manager.
Using affiliate sites removes the responsibility to interact, and talk with your customers.
The system they have adopted is a one way communication. Developers tell you what it is, with no room for feedback.
That and it lowers accessibility to game information.
I feel, IMO, that it is there duty to provide official forums to paying customers, for support of there service.
The Commandments of Online Worlds
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
I really don’t like the layout of that site, and its hard to find Correct information there.
10 ton hammer is worse as far as finding things, and completed, correct info. And it lags.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Yeah, that’s helpful.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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While that’s great. I think your misinterpreting my use of "Community". The info i refer to as lacking, or hard to find is the information generated by the community on the forums, not the in game one (There is a difference). Like tutorials, discussions, player discoveries ETC..As for the devs, i still dislike having to go to 10 different sites to find developer comments on issues, and discussions.
On a side note, i feel this is a way of the producers and makers of this game to brush off responsibilities to its customer base.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
Guides/what's uber, what's not and dev post will appear as news or on forums on affiliate sites.
Patch notes on the launchpad.
Community can be builded on affiliate sites.
What else do you need?
eqnext.wikia.com
Everything I have said in this post. And single, official forums, as well as one place for all the info. And to have the same level of services that I receive from every other game.
To not have to look at 10 sites for dev posts.
To not have 10 communities for one game.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
I see it both ways, right now, I despise having to search several forums looking for info that I'm trying to find. What's going to happen, is that some sites will die, and some will the ones that people adopt as the "official" forums. The funky part for me is crafting. I remember the old UO days with Tradespot, and with the regionalism of crafting in Vanguard, I'm betting that something like Tradespot comes back. It'd be nice to know who in Kojan or Qalia I can go to for a set of that style armor if I"m in Thestra.
Anyhow, UO moved off official forums to Stratics, and that turned out to be a pretty good move for 'em, only thing is that Stratics was a fan site early on that caught, and was one of the ones that "made it". So most UO forum types were there anyhow. I just wish that Vanguard would have kept up official forums for a few months, and let the release communities begin to form, and THEN move off the official boards. I'd hate to be the guy who buys tomorrow, and then doesnt know the fan sites to go look for.
Here’s a good example.
On the press release on the official site, it says that the Server names have been published on http://www.vanguardsoh.com/, and its not.... There is a news that says goto an affiliate site with a link...a link to 10 different Fan sites...upon clicking any one of them. its not very clear where the list is... If its even there, in whatever format they choose to list them.
How is that helpful?
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
OK, for anyone that thinks this system is working, please help me out here.
I have what I believe to be a valid and important question. I have searched the official site and silky venom and have not found an answer. I also have no idea whatsoever as to where to look for one. If you think the current community system works, you can use it to help me out.
The question is:
Where do I get the instruction manual for Vanguard having purchased it digitally? I have never bought a game that did not come with a manual. Games that I have bought digitally usually pointed me to a web or a PDF version of the paper copy.
I think quite a few people that buy the game digitally will have this question. It could be something obvious I missed in the download instructions. But my point is that I can't find an answer to this. And I don't even know where to look.
So if you have an answer, point me to where I could have found it.
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editing....found out my answer.
I really don’t like the layout of that site, and its hard to find Correct information there.
10 ton hammer is worse as far as finding things, and completed, correct info. And it lags.
SV has the same forum layout as the official boards. You asked for official boards he gave you the closest thing to official boards, how could you not like it bud?
This right here is why there are no official boards, lol.
http://mentaltruancy.guildportal.com - Friendly Vanguard:Saga of Heroes Qalia based Guild.
I really don’t like the layout of that site, and its hard to find Correct information there.
10 ton hammer is worse as far as finding things, and completed, correct info. And it lags.
SV has the same forum layout as the official boards. You asked for official boards he gave you the closest thing to official boards, how could you not like it bud?
This right here is why there are no official boards, lol.
Read the thread.----------
"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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Currently, none. And each site has different info on them. Like i said, to get the full picture, and development progress (As in issues worked on, Dev chats about solutions ETC)..I don’t want to have to be required to look at 10 sites.
There is only one reason to not have an official forums. Money.And they dont want to hear peoples opinions about parts of there game.
I feel however, that is part of the services that i pay for, and I’m currently going to be paying the same rate for a game, that provides less customer support, and feedback than any other game. They have pawned that responsibility off onto the fans, and I feel that that is a cop out.
In this system they have adopted, information and feedback go one way. At us. And that happens to only be the case if your watching the correct site.
IMO, if they don’t wish to provide the same level of services that other games provide as a standard, they need to lower the subscription price by 1$.
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me
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"Anyone posting on this forum is not an average user, and there for any opinions about the game are going to be overly critical compared to an average users opinions." - Me
"No, your wrong.." - Random user #123
"Hello person posting on a site specifically for MMO's in a thread on a sub forum specifically for a particular game talking about meta features and making comparisons to other titles in the genre, and their meta features.
How are you?" -Me