Popularity isn't an indicator of quality, Genoism. Your posts, however, are an indication of the quality of player who clutters up the WoW servers, and from my miserable time spent playing WoW, I can say with confidence that you represent the average Warcraft player, one of the reasons why I stopped playing. You phail, troll.
If you want a real harsh death penalty, go play Russian Roulet. - Hamzal
that and you will one day learn that generally when 8 million people like one game and maybe 1 million like another game, it means the game that 8 million people like is superior.
Err nope, that means that one game is more popular than the other. We will stick to the car analogies, since they seem to be popular and widely understood. If you found out that 8 million people drove a Toyota, while 1 million drove a Ferrari, would that mean that the former is a superior product?
WoW has the "Warcraft" franchise and "Blizzard" names to it, granting a broader audience thanks to its history and steamroller-style advertising. ArenaNet (which was started by former Blizzard employees who worked on e.g. the Diablo series) had to start from scratch and chose a completely different route as to the game mechanics.
Ok, after playing WoW, which I thought was an extremely awesome game, I decided to buy Guild Wars Nightfall because of two reasons. The first, of course, being that there is no monthly fee. The second was based solely on the fact that it was the highest rated game by players voting here on MMORPG.com. Well, I've got to tell you I was quite disappointed. Two things immediately set me off on this game (keep in mind that my latest comparison would have been WoW). You couldn't Jump? THERE WAS NO JUMP KEY? WTH? So then I questioned, "If I couldn't jump, what happens when you get to a cliff? Do you just fall down or do you get blocked?" Well, unfortunately, it turns out you just stop. STOP!. Your character slides along the apparent edge. That is stupid, unrealilistic, and certainly takes away from the RPG/Reality/Fantasy of the game. Ok... two more .... You get to water, and you can't swim. Wow (NOT WoW), does that suck. And finally, the graphics couldn't come close to WoW. Absolutely spectacular video, colors, and dream scape in WoW. So, all this begs the question: How can anyone place Guild Wars above WoW in things like RPG game play or Graphics. The only thing I could come with is that there is no monthly fee. So, I beg of MMORPG.com to please separate the categories of REAL MMORPG and RPG because I just speant money on a PC game... NOT a MMORPG. SpyMade (aka, Terran Miner, Terran Killer)
And jumping/swimming as easily in cloth armour as with a full plate attire is realistic...
Homing missile arrows are realistic...
And the same old (and increasingly irritating) "not a MMORPG". Here's something for you, taken from GW's FAQ:
Is Guild Wars an MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game)?
Guild Wars has some similarities to existing MMORPGs, but it also has some key differences. Like existing MMOs, Guild Wars is played entirely online in a secure hosted environment. Thousands of players inhabit the same virtual world. Players can meet new friends in gathering places like towns and outposts where they form parties and go questing with them. Unlike many MMOs, when players form a party and embark upon a quest in Guild Wars, they get their own private copy of the area where the quest takes place. This design eliminates some of the frustrating gameplay elements commonly associated with MMOs, such as spawn camping, loot stealing, and standing in a queue in order to complete a quest. [...] Rather than labeling Guild Wars an MMORPG, we prefer to call it a CORPG (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game).
So:
- Exclusively played online
- Multiplayer
- Character evolution
Bottom line: not a carbon-copy MMORPG, it's still the category it relates most to.
that and you will one day learn that generally when 8 million people like one game and maybe 1 million like another game, it means the game that 8 million people like is superior.
Err nope, that means that one game is more popular than the other. We will stick to the car analogies, since they seem to be popular and widely understood. If you found out that 8 million people drove a Toyota, while 1 million drove a Ferrari, would that mean that the former is a superior product?
WoW has the "Warcraft" franchise and "Blizzard" names to it, granting a broader audience thanks to its history and steamroller-style advertising. ArenaNet (which was started by former Blizzard employees who worked on e.g. the Diablo series) had to start from scratch and chose a completely different route as to the game mechanics.
beautiful car analogy, because a frikkin toyota costs the same as a ferrari. O wait it doesn't, as it happens WoW is affordable, costs a small 15 bucks a month while GW is a one time investment + each additional expansion pack. As it happens both are relatively affordable for the average consumer. As it happens your car analogy really sucks because a ferrari doesn't cost anywhere near the same as a toyota. Lets use my example now, 8 mill subscribers vs 1 mill. Clearly the superior product. You people also misunderstand that popularity does indeed indicate quality. If an object is of clearly poor quality its popularity for the average consumer will be low, while for a high quality product will garner more consumers. Your skills at analogies suck, im sorry.
Also, the troll police seem to want to simply increase their post count or don't know what a troll post is. I merely explained which product is superior for the people who THINK it is for them. If you don't like WoW and think GW is better I'm not saying your wrong, if you like it more then more power to you, play what you like. Its just that 8 million other people out there think WoW is better and not one of them is telling you that your a moron for liking GW. its like apples and oranges, you like apples i like oranges, none is 'better' then the other, they are both different. They are both fruit, 8 million people like apples and 1 million people like oranges. Does it make apples superior? In the minds of 8 mil people yes. If you can't grasp the idea i'm putting out here then well..i fell sorry for you.
that and you will one day learn that generally when 8 million people like one game and maybe 1 million like another game, it means the game that 8 million people like is superior.
Err nope, that means that one game is more popular than the other. We will stick to the car analogies, since they seem to be popular and widely understood. If you found out that 8 million people drove a Toyota, while 1 million drove a Ferrari, would that mean that the former is a superior product?
WoW has the "Warcraft" franchise and "Blizzard" names to it, granting a broader audience thanks to its history and steamroller-style advertising. ArenaNet (which was started by former Blizzard employees who worked on e.g. the Diablo series) had to start from scratch and chose a completely different route as to the game mechanics.
Popularity and subscription numbers mean nothing when gw is f2p and wow is p2p. Comparing apples to oranges lol. When both are either p2p or f2p we will finally put the wow vs gw argument to rest with a clear victor. Though, if gw goes p2p my bet is on it sinking to the bottom of the ocean for it's eternal rest alongside the titanic lol.
beautiful car analogy, because a frikkin toyota costs the same as a ferrari. O wait it doesn't, as it happens WoW is affordable, costs a small 15 bucks a month while GW is a one time investment + each additional expansion pack.
New campaigns aren't a mandatory purchase. WoW costs Box + subsription. Sorry that was a bad attempt on your side.
As it happens both are relatively affordable for the average consumer. As it happens your car analogy really sucks because a ferrari doesn't cost anywhere near the same as a toyota.
Meaning that Ferrari appeals to the smaller audience. Hence the number of drivers still has little to do with the product's quality.
Lets use my example now, 8 mill subscribers vs 1 mill. Clearly the superior product. You people also misunderstand that popularity does indeed indicate quality. If an object is of clearly poor quality its popularity for the average consumer will be low, while for a high quality product will garner more consumers. Your skills at analogies suck, im sorry.
If people hardly know or have heard about a good product it still won't sell. EDIT: to make it clearer, my point is that judging of a product's quality solely basing one's opinion according to one variable is risky.
Also, the troll police seem to want to simply increase their post count or don't know what a troll post is. I merely explained which product is superior for the people who THINK it is for them. If you don't like WoW and think GW is better I'm not saying your wrong, if you like it more then more power to you, play what you like. Its just that 8 million other people out there think WoW is better and not one of them is telling you that your a moron for liking GW. its like apples and oranges, you like apples i like oranges, none is 'better' then the other, they are both different. They are both fruit, 8 million people like apples and 1 million people like oranges. Does it make apples superior? In the minds of 8 mil people yes. If you can't grasp the idea i'm putting out here then well..i fell sorry for you.
Sorry though the comment I quoted never was in relative terms. So it was towards the lack of consistency in your opinion.
However we agree on the fact that they appeal different people.
Neither game is better than the other. It is about what the person plays it thinks. Some people such as myself did not find GW or WoW to be my taste.
When I pick out a MMO the first thing I check is if it has good pvp. Guild Wars has a fair pvp system but the game was too simple and easy. I started GW and made max level in 1 day. First thing I thought is damn that was fast. Well I did some pvp but found it dull and repetitive. I had hoped that a game with the title Guild Wars would have a more enthralling pvp system.
For starters the combat areas weren't very creative and there was no real "sieging" at all. But my main issue with GW is that it didn't seem immersive. In my opinion the lack of being able to go off the trodden path or explore a real frontier. Honestly I felt like I was playing Dungeon Siege Online.
As for WoW it was more immersive but was hard to enjoy. The average age of players seemed to be lower than in the average MMO. Not that it is such a bad thing but I often felt sick every time a player asked me what a word means such as ignorant. I did enjoy exploring for a little while. The graphics were not my style personally though those who like it more power to them. The cartoon graphics were the first thing I noticed when I started the game but hoped I could get passed that which I did. But I coulden't get past battlegrounds sad attempt to copy DAOC. The players all randomly jumped in circles as they fought you, but that wasn't too terrible but the battlegrounds get boring after a few weeks.
Honestly neither is really better than the other when it comes down to it though in my eyes neither game is for me. I understand my comments may offend some WoW and GW players but remember that is only how I saw the games and I understand everyone has different tastes.
Too many people have different opinions about WoW and GW that it is impossible to argue with each of them and keep your head straight, if there was anything i'd say about WoW, it would be that i wish it was more like GW. And not the other way around (i really like the henchmen thing).
beautiful car analogy, because a frikkin toyota costs the same as a ferrari. O wait it doesn't, as it happens WoW is affordable, costs a small 15 bucks a month while GW is a one time investment + each additional expansion pack.
New campaigns aren't a mandatory purchase. WoW costs Box + subsription. Sorry that was a bad attempt on your side.
As it happens both are relatively affordable for the average consumer. As it happens your car analogy really sucks because a ferrari doesn't cost anywhere near the same as a toyota.
Meaning that Ferrari appeals to the smaller audience. Hence the number of drivers still has little to do with the product's quality.
Lets use my example now, 8 mill subscribers vs 1 mill. Clearly the superior product. You people also misunderstand that popularity does indeed indicate quality. If an object is of clearly poor quality its popularity for the average consumer will be low, while for a high quality product will garner more consumers. Your skills at analogies suck, im sorry.
If people hardly know or have heard about a good product it still won't sell. EDIT: to make it clearer, my point is that judging of a product's quality solely basing one's opinion according to one variable is risky.
Also, the troll police seem to want to simply increase their post count or don't know what a troll post is. I merely explained which product is superior for the people who THINK it is for them. If you don't like WoW and think GW is better I'm not saying your wrong, if you like it more then more power to you, play what you like. Its just that 8 million other people out there think WoW is better and not one of them is telling you that your a moron for liking GW. its like apples and oranges, you like apples i like oranges, none is 'better' then the other, they are both different. They are both fruit, 8 million people like apples and 1 million people like oranges. Does it make apples superior? In the minds of 8 mil people yes. If you can't grasp the idea i'm putting out here then well..i fell sorry for you.
Sorry though the comment I quoted never was in relative terms. So it was towards the lack of consistency in your opinion.
However we agree on the fact that they appeal different people.
know what selective hearing is? You seem to be having selective reading, I can't understand how you managed to answer the things you quote with those quite irrelevant rebuttals...if i can even call it that. Anyways im done in this thread.
that and you will one day learn that generally when 8 million people like one game and maybe 1 million like another game, it means the game that 8 million people like is superior.
Err nope, that means that one game is more popular than the other. We will stick to the car analogies, since they seem to be popular and widely understood. If you found out that 8 million people drove a Toyota, while 1 million drove a Ferrari, would that mean that the former is a superior product?
WoW has the "Warcraft" franchise and "Blizzard" names to it, granting a broader audience thanks to its history and steamroller-style advertising. ArenaNet (which was started by former Blizzard employees who worked on e.g. the Diablo series) had to start from scratch and chose a completely different route as to the game mechanics.beautiful car analogy, because a frikkin toyota costs the same as a ferrari. O wait it doesn't, as it happens WoW is affordable, costs a small 15 bucks a month while GW is a one time investment + each additional expansion pack. As it happens both are relatively affordable for the average consumer. As it happens your car analogy really sucks because a ferrari doesn't cost anywhere near the same as a toyota. Lets use my example now, 8 mill subscribers vs 1 mill. Clearly the superior product. You people also misunderstand that popularity does indeed indicate quality. If an object is of clearly poor quality its popularity for the average consumer will be low, while for a high quality product will garner more consumers. Your skills at analogies suck, im sorry.
Also, the troll police seem to want to simply increase their post count or don't know what a troll post is. I merely explained which product is superior for the people who THINK it is for them. If you don't like WoW and think GW is better I'm not saying your wrong, if you like it more then more power to you, play what you like. Its just that 8 million other people out there think WoW is better and not one of them is telling you that your a moron for liking GW. its like apples and oranges, you like apples i like oranges, none is 'better' then the other, they are both different. They are both fruit, 8 million people like apples and 1 million people like oranges. Does it make apples superior? In the minds of 8 mil people yes. If you can't grasp the idea i'm putting out here then well..i fell sorry for you.
if you buy guildwars, u pay $50 and thats final
if you buy WoW, u pay 20$ plus another 10$ a month
that means in 3 months, they cost the same. every month over that, the people who bought guildwars have a better and better deal
anyways, if you have to pay every month, you feel like you are forced to play the game.
those who play guildwars hvae a life.
those who play WoW dont have a life cause they play so much.....
The guy obviously doesn't know wtf he's on about saying GW has crap graphics, and he's comparing GW to WoW which is just being retarded. I played GW and enjoyed it, I don't have £££££ in my pockets cause i'm not spoiled by my parents. GW was a dream come true and I thank Arena net for making GW a F2P game because so many of "us" are out there.
So let the poor child think his ways.
We're all Geniuses. Most of us just don't know it.
Out of all the games I have played/subscribed to (which includes both GW and WoW) I have found that I get the most hours per $ out of GW by a long way.
I realise that to some people that money might not be a factor but for me being a poor student it seriously influences my decisions.
A lot of other genres of games are partly rated by how many hours of gameplay they provide, and this value is normally compared with the price of the product to give an hours per $ value.
In my experience GW provided a much better hr/$ than any other game.
Ok, after playing WoW, which I thought was an extremely awesome game, I decided to buy Guild Wars Nightfall because of two reasons. The first, of course, being that there is no monthly fee. The second was based solely on the fact that it was the highest rated game by players voting here on MMORPG.com. Well, I've got to tell you I was quite disappointed. Two things immediately set me off on this game (keep in mind that my latest comparison would have been WoW). You couldn't Jump? THERE WAS NO JUMP KEY? WTH? So then I questioned, "If I couldn't jump, what happens when you get to a cliff? Do you just fall down or do you get blocked?" Well, unfortunately, it turns out you just stop. STOP!. Your character slides along the apparent edge. That is stupid, unrealilistic, and certainly takes away from the RPG/Reality/Fantasy of the game. Ok... two more .... You get to water, and you can't swim. Wow (NOT WoW), does that suck. And finally, the graphics couldn't come close to WoW. Absolutely spectacular video, colors, and dream scape in WoW. So, all this begs the question: How can anyone place Guild Wars above WoW in things like RPG game play or Graphics. The only thing I could come with is that there is no monthly fee. So, I beg of MMORPG.com to please separate the categories of REAL MMORPG and RPG because I just speant money on a PC game... NOT a MMORPG. SpyMade (aka, Terran Miner, Terran Killer)
if you want to jump and swim buy mario bross.
wow and gw are not the same, so, you cant compare, I think the graphics of wow are not so good and not "reallistic"; also, you think that a fireball is more reallistic that a guy that dont falls away in a cliff?
Can you compare wow with baldurs gate, or perhaps with neverwinter nights, you cant also jump there and... they are not good games, ??? perhaps you are not looking for an rpg, you need an arcade... try to play nes or megadrive, sonic and mario are awesome. judge a mmorpg about you "can/t" jump or not is to... inmature? anyway... gw is not for a hardcore players, its for casual players, perhaps you are the ones that love to farm the same mob duuring hours to have best equip that the others one. You are the one that only do pvp on the guys with less level/equip, but gw need some skill and Im sure that is that because this that you dont like it.
I got lot of friends that plays one of two or two of this games. And all they says the same. Wow is, really, more a pve player, while, guildwars is a pvp one. Is not that you can "only" do this, but is the main part of the game, or perpahps, the more interesting. You need hours and hours of stupid farming to start taking fun in wow, and in gw you can got a full player for pvp.
The people that says that gw is stupid because you can only reach lvl 20 demonstrates that dont know what are they talking about, gw is not based on lvl, so, think, that you dont know what are you playing at when you talk about it.
Anyway, gw and wow are diferent and, perhaps, may be not compared, they are good in their own things, I really think that wow is speacially good in marketing, they sold a lineage2 with lot of marketing. and gw has a good selling politic, they force you to buy an expansion for 50$ to play with other people so the "no fee" is really a fake. Anyway I played gw since it goes out, and the wow since it was beta, so... gw is more durable interesting game, wow is another mmorpg that have, in front of the others, lot of marketing.
People who come troll in a gameforum of a game they dont like cant deal with their issues. Try to grow up instead. GW and WoW are both very popular and high quality games. Someone who denies that needs a reality check. You like one or both or none, Who cares, just play what you like.
meh i said the same thing about guild wars once, after i played wow for a year, had full bloodfang before AQ was released, but i gave it another try and i began liking it for a 2 months, i really dont see how someone who plays WoW could really not like it, its as close as you are probably gonna get to WoW anyway.
jump was disappointing cause i spam jump alot when im bored.
Originally posted by Slangroth meh i said the same thing about guild wars once, after i played wow for a year, had full bloodfang before AQ was released, but i gave it another try and i began liking it for a 2 months, i really dont see how someone who plays WoW could really not like it, its as close as you are probably gonna get to WoW anyway. jump was disappointing cause i spam jump alot when im bored.
Yeah and i asked for a refund because my steak was 17 oz instead of 16 oz.... details details, i mean i guess they're important if they add to the look of the game but do u truly buy a game to jump of a cliff all ur life? i mean it could be fun for the first 5 min if you're bored but if you want a game where u can only jump off cliffs go join gametap or somethin then GW is not for you. Go back to WoW
Lol its your fault and stupidity for buying GW and u dont like it. GW is well known as a "different" MMO game and if u expect WoW you are just uninformed! GW isnt WoW (fortunately) GW is just best game for PvPers and specific PvErs. If you want same style as WoW get some info about games and look on mmorpg.com ladder... there is a game called EQ2, this game is WoW style (only better imo
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Ok, after playing WoW, which I thought was an extremely awesome game, I decided to buy Guild Wars Nightfall because of two reasons. The first, of course, being that there is no monthly fee. The second was based solely on the fact that it was the highest rated game by players voting here on MMORPG.com. Well, I've got to tell you I was quite disappointed. Two things immediately set me off on this game (keep in mind that my latest comparison would have been WoW). You couldn't Jump? THERE WAS NO JUMP KEY? WTH? So then I questioned, "If I couldn't jump, what happens when you get to a cliff? Do you just fall down or do you get blocked?" Well, unfortunately, it turns out you just stop. STOP!. Your character slides along the apparent edge. That is stupid, unrealilistic, and certainly takes away from the RPG/Reality/Fantasy of the game. Ok... two more .... You get to water, and you can't swim. Wow (NOT WoW), does that suck. And finally, the graphics couldn't come close to WoW. Absolutely spectacular video, colors, and dream scape in WoW. So, all this begs the question: How can anyone place Guild Wars above WoW in things like RPG game play or Graphics. The only thing I could come with is that there is no monthly fee. So, I beg of MMORPG.com to please separate the categories of REAL MMORPG and RPG because I just speant money on a PC game... NOT a MMORPG. SpyMade (aka, Terran Miner, Terran Killer)
ok first of all i think jumping takes away from all the PvP experience. And you shoulda done ure researching this IS NOT a PvE game. And what do u mean it doesn't come close in graphics you must have one crappy CPU GW blows it away in graphics.
P.S. it's not considered a mmorpg the creators said it themselves its a CORPG
This game is so much different from other games here and your comparing it to WoW? This game is more realistic becuse if you play it a while,you'll see why it is the top. The pvp is like no other,it has a STORYLINE wic so many don't,it doesn't have non-stop races,someone can't be so strong that it's unfair(it relise on how good you are at your skills,and it has beutiful graphics. And by the way,would you jump off a cliff if you were right next to one. Thats where it's realistic.
My mind has changed so much. Yet I'm still acting like I'm the same.
Ok, after playing WoW, which I thought was an extremely awesome game, I decided to buy Guild Wars Nightfall because of two reasons. The first, of course, being that there is no monthly fee. The second was based solely on the fact that it was the highest rated game by players voting here on MMORPG.com. Well, I've got to tell you I was quite disappointed.
Two things immediately set me off on this game (keep in mind that my latest comparison would have been WoW). You couldn't Jump? THERE WAS NO JUMP KEY? WTH? So then I questioned, "If I couldn't jump, what happens when you get to a cliff? Do you just fall down or do you get blocked?" Well, unfortunately, it turns out you just stop. STOP!. Your character slides along the apparent edge. That is stupid, unrealilistic, and certainly takes away from the RPG/Reality/Fantasy of the game. Hahahahhahahhahahahahhaahahahahahahahhaahahahahahahahahahahhaahahahahahaha! That's quite funny actually. GW is no roleplaying game!!!!! There are 0% roleplaying features so whatever you thought the game was you were very wrong! GW is an action game period. If you compare to WoW you are out riding a cute little pony. This is pure and hardcore skill based ACTION only Ok... two more .... You get to water, and you can't swim. Wow (NOT WoW), does that suck.
LOOOOOOL x20!!! This one is EVEN funnier than the first one ;D Hahahahaha! You seriously amuse me ^^ What's the point in swimming ??? Not even in WoW is there something special with swimming.
And finally, the graphics couldn't come close to WoW. Absolutely spectacular video, colors, and dream scape in WoW. I hate the WoW graphics. Totally UNREALISTIC as you mentioned earlier Every character in WoW either look like a little fat chunk or a stick. I think GW interface, graphics and performance is much nicer. This is just a matter of opinion as usual.
So, all this begs the question: How can anyone place Guild Wars above WoW in things like RPG game play or Graphics.
Because it's a smarter game. That is so unique because it requires actual SKILLS other than farming items which results in time played > skills with your character. GW has world tournaments, that pretty much sums it all up ^^
The only thing I could come with is that there is no monthly fee. So, I beg of MMORPG.com to please separate the categories of REAL MMORPG and RPG because I just speant money on a PC game... NOT a MMORPG. If GW is a MMORPG so is Diablo II I wouldn't call GW a MMORPG, I call it an Action-RPG game with online features. What it does here on this site I dunno
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Genoism, there are more people who can read than the people who can read!!!! that means your dissing yourself?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
If you want a real harsh death penalty, go play Russian Roulet. - Hamzal
Err nope, that means that one game is more popular than the other. We will stick to the car analogies, since they seem to be popular and widely understood. If you found out that 8 million people drove a Toyota, while 1 million drove a Ferrari, would that mean that the former is a superior product?
WoW has the "Warcraft" franchise and "Blizzard" names to it, granting a broader audience thanks to its history and steamroller-style advertising. ArenaNet (which was started by former Blizzard employees who worked on e.g. the Diablo series) had to start from scratch and chose a completely different route as to the game mechanics.
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Ever wondered what a hardcore WoW raider looked like?
R.I.P. Laura "Taera" Genender
And jumping/swimming as easily in cloth armour as with a full plate attire is realistic...
Homing missile arrows are realistic...
And the same old (and increasingly irritating) "not a MMORPG". Here's something for you, taken from GW's FAQ:
Is Guild Wars an MMORPG (Massively Multiplayer Online Role Playing Game)?
Guild Wars has some similarities to existing MMORPGs, but it also has some key differences. Like existing MMOs, Guild Wars is played entirely online in a secure hosted environment. Thousands of players inhabit the same virtual world. Players can meet new friends in gathering places like towns and outposts where they form parties and go questing with them. Unlike many MMOs, when players form a party and embark upon a quest in Guild Wars, they get their own private copy of the area where the quest takes place. This design eliminates some of the frustrating gameplay elements commonly associated with MMOs, such as spawn camping, loot stealing, and standing in a queue in order to complete a quest.
[...] Rather than labeling Guild Wars an MMORPG, we prefer to call it a CORPG (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game).
So:
- Exclusively played online- Multiplayer
- Character evolution
Bottom line: not a carbon-copy MMORPG, it's still the category it relates most to.
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Ever wondered what a hardcore WoW raider looked like?
R.I.P. Laura "Taera" Genender
Also, the troll police seem to want to simply increase their post count or don't know what a troll post is. I merely explained which product is superior for the people who THINK it is for them. If you don't like WoW and think GW is better I'm not saying your wrong, if you like it more then more power to you, play what you like. Its just that 8 million other people out there think WoW is better and not one of them is telling you that your a moron for liking GW. its like apples and oranges, you like apples i like oranges, none is 'better' then the other, they are both different. They are both fruit, 8 million people like apples and 1 million people like oranges. Does it make apples superior? In the minds of 8 mil people yes. If you can't grasp the idea i'm putting out here then well..i fell sorry for you.
That must be why there are so many "not a real MMO I rank it 1, go play Blabla" comments in the ratings...
BTW switch around WoW and GW in your sentence and you can qualify your own post. Funny eh?
Or maybe it is that GW players can actually do something else than just stay logged in game for hours to do anything meaningful?
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Ever wondered what a hardcore WoW raider looked like?
R.I.P. Laura "Taera" Genender
Sorry though the comment I quoted never was in relative terms. So it was towards the lack of consistency in your opinion.
However we agree on the fact that they appeal different people.
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Ever wondered what a hardcore WoW raider looked like?
R.I.P. Laura "Taera" Genender
When I pick out a MMO the first thing I check is if it has good pvp. Guild Wars has a fair pvp system but the game was too simple and easy. I started GW and made max level in 1 day. First thing I thought is damn that was fast. Well I did some pvp but found it dull and repetitive. I had hoped that a game with the title Guild Wars would have a more enthralling pvp system.
For starters the combat areas weren't very creative and there was no real "sieging" at all. But my main issue with GW is that it didn't seem immersive. In my opinion the lack of being able to go off the trodden path or explore a real frontier. Honestly I felt like I was playing Dungeon Siege Online.
As for WoW it was more immersive but was hard to enjoy. The average age of players seemed to be lower than in the average MMO. Not that it is such a bad thing but I often felt sick every time a player asked me what a word means such as ignorant. I did enjoy exploring for a little while. The graphics were not my style personally though those who like it more power to them. The cartoon graphics were the first thing I noticed when I started the game but hoped I could get passed that which I did. But I coulden't get past battlegrounds sad attempt to copy DAOC. The players all randomly jumped in circles as they fought you, but that wasn't too terrible but the battlegrounds get boring after a few weeks.
Honestly neither is really better than the other when it comes down to it though in my eyes neither game is for me. I understand my comments may offend some WoW and GW players but remember that is only how I saw the games and I understand everyone has different tastes.
This is not a game.
WoW has the "Warcraft" franchise and "Blizzard" names to it, granting a broader audience thanks to its history and steamroller-style advertising. ArenaNet (which was started by former Blizzard employees who worked on e.g. the Diablo series) had to start from scratch and chose a completely different route as to the game mechanics.beautiful car analogy, because a frikkin toyota costs the same as a ferrari. O wait it doesn't, as it happens WoW is affordable, costs a small 15 bucks a month while GW is a one time investment + each additional expansion pack. As it happens both are relatively affordable for the average consumer. As it happens your car analogy really sucks because a ferrari doesn't cost anywhere near the same as a toyota. Lets use my example now, 8 mill subscribers vs 1 mill. Clearly the superior product. You people also misunderstand that popularity does indeed indicate quality. If an object is of clearly poor quality its popularity for the average consumer will be low, while for a high quality product will garner more consumers. Your skills at analogies suck, im sorry.
Also, the troll police seem to want to simply increase their post count or don't know what a troll post is. I merely explained which product is superior for the people who THINK it is for them. If you don't like WoW and think GW is better I'm not saying your wrong, if you like it more then more power to you, play what you like. Its just that 8 million other people out there think WoW is better and not one of them is telling you that your a moron for liking GW. its like apples and oranges, you like apples i like oranges, none is 'better' then the other, they are both different. They are both fruit, 8 million people like apples and 1 million people like oranges. Does it make apples superior? In the minds of 8 mil people yes. If you can't grasp the idea i'm putting out here then well..i fell sorry for you.
if you buy guildwars, u pay $50 and thats final
if you buy WoW, u pay 20$ plus another 10$ a month
that means in 3 months, they cost the same. every month over that, the people who bought guildwars have a better and better deal
anyways, if you have to pay every month, you feel like you are forced to play the game.
those who play guildwars hvae a life.
those who play WoW dont have a life cause they play so much.....
So let the poor child think his ways.
We're all Geniuses. Most of us just don't know it.
I realise that to some people that money might not be a factor but for me being a poor student it seriously influences my decisions.
A lot of other genres of games are partly rated by how many hours of gameplay they provide, and this value is normally compared with the price of the product to give an hours per $ value.
In my experience GW provided a much better hr/$ than any other game.
Just my opinion.
wow and gw are not the same, so, you cant compare, I think the graphics of wow are not so good and not "reallistic"; also, you think that a fireball is more reallistic that a guy that dont falls away in a cliff?
Can you compare wow with baldurs gate, or perhaps with neverwinter nights, you cant also jump there and... they are not good games, ??? perhaps you are not looking for an rpg, you need an arcade... try to play nes or megadrive, sonic and mario are awesome. judge a mmorpg about you "can/t" jump or not is to... inmature? anyway... gw is not for a hardcore players, its for casual players, perhaps you are the ones that love to farm the same mob duuring hours to have best equip that the others one. You are the one that only do pvp on the guys with less level/equip, but gw need some skill and Im sure that is that because this that you dont like it.
I got lot of friends that plays one of two or two of this games. And all they says the same. Wow is, really, more a pve player, while, guildwars is a pvp one. Is not that you can "only" do this, but is the main part of the game, or perpahps, the more interesting. You need hours and hours of stupid farming to start taking fun in wow, and in gw you can got a full player for pvp.
The people that says that gw is stupid because you can only reach lvl 20 demonstrates that dont know what are they talking about, gw is not based on lvl, so, think, that you dont know what are you playing at when you talk about it.
Anyway, gw and wow are diferent and, perhaps, may be not compared, they are good in their own things, I really think that wow is speacially good in marketing, they sold a lineage2 with lot of marketing. and gw has a good selling politic, they force you to buy an expansion for 50$ to play with other people so the "no fee" is really a fake. Anyway I played gw since it goes out, and the wow since it was beta, so... gw is more durable interesting game, wow is another mmorpg that have, in front of the others, lot of marketing.
meh i said the same thing about guild wars once, after i played wow for a year, had full bloodfang before AQ was released, but i gave it another try and i began liking it for a 2 months, i really dont see how someone who plays WoW could really not like it, its as close as you are probably gonna get to WoW anyway.
jump was disappointing cause i spam jump alot when im bored.
Yeah and i asked for a refund because my steak was 17 oz instead of 16 oz.... details details, i mean i guess they're important if they add to the look of the game but do u truly buy a game to jump of a cliff all ur life? i mean it could be fun for the first 5 min if you're bored but if you want a game where u can only jump off cliffs go join gametap or somethin then GW is not for you. Go back to WoW
Lol its your fault and stupidity for buying GW and u dont like it. GW is well known as a "different" MMO game and if u expect WoW you are just uninformed! GW isnt WoW (fortunately) GW is just best game for PvPers and specific PvErs.
If you want same style as WoW get some info about games and look on mmorpg.com ladder... there is a game called EQ2, this game is WoW style (only better imo
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ok first of all i think jumping takes away from all the PvP experience. And you shoulda done ure researching this IS NOT a PvE game. And what do u mean it doesn't come close in graphics you must have one crappy CPU GW blows it away in graphics.
P.S. it's not considered a mmorpg the creators said it themselves its a CORPG
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