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Give it a rest already!

BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

1. Soooo many threads about "developers suck and no innovation in genre, it's all about the money!" etc etc etc

2. Soooo many threads about "why ____ sucks or why _____ is better then _____" etc etc etc

3. Soooo many threads about "this game no one has seen will change everything and be better then your favorite!" etc etc etc

4. Soooo many threads about "Need to go back to "hardcore" or "oldschool" or "all new MMOs carebear."" etc etc etc

 

Give it a rest already!!!!

1. Of course it's about money, without money, no game, so how do you get LOTS of money? make a good game people want to play and keep playing.

2. People will always have opinions on what they like/dislike or what they think is better/worse but STOP ASSUMING you are "right" and flaming people for being "wrong" because opinions cannot be right or wrong, they are opinions! based on personal likes/dislikes and experience, not absolute fact...

3. No game in development, in alpha, in beta, or even released will ever stay 100% the same. MMORPG's are constantly evolving and changing. STOP TRYING to predict the future and assuming your predictions are correct and people who disagree are wrong

4. If they really needed to go back to the "hardcore" or "old school" style of MMO, they would have. It's a niche market, hence why EVERY major MMO is more "friendly" and as the haters say "carebear" because guess what, it's working! the genre itself has expanded and grown, and is making an obscene amount of money.

So give it a rest already!!!!

How about we talk about something constructive? personal reviews of game that are done with taste and not assuming superiority that "i dislike/like this game so you should to."

constructive ideas on how/what you would like to see and why it would work/be cool/ etc.

Yes, there are post of this nature out there, and I applaud those who post them for trying to be constructive, but for the rest who keep posting the SAME OLD CRAP time and time and time and time again....

Give it a rest already!

Yeah, I know I don't have to read it, and I don't in most cases, guess I'm just bored of scrolling through the forum topics and seeing the same 4 posts over and over and over and over and over and over and over.....

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  • m0d3stm0us3m0d3stm0us3 Member Posts: 31
    Yea, great idea....lets piss off the people that u just got done complaining about.  Stop complaining about complainers, its just as bad.  I think there are probably more posts about these things then there are about the examples u give.  Your just as bad as the ones you are bashing on.
  • Parsifal57Parsifal57 Member Posts: 267
    Originally posted by heerobya


    1. Soooo many threads about "developers suck and no innovation in genre, it's all about the money!" etc etc etc
    2. Soooo many threads about "why ____ sucks or why _____ is better then _____" etc etc etc
    3. Soooo many threads about "this game no one has seen will change everything and be better then your favorite!" etc etc etc
    4. Soooo many threads about "Need to go back to "hardcore" or "oldschool" or "all new MMOs carebear."" etc etc etc
     
    Give it a rest already!!!!
    1. Of course it's about money, without money, no game, so how do you get LOTS of money? make a good game people want to play and keep playing.
    2. People will always have opinions on what they like/dislike or what they think is better/worse but STOP ASSUMING you are "right" and flaming people for being "wrong" because opinions cannot be right or wrong, they are opinions! based on personal likes/dislikes and experience, not absolute fact...
    3. No game in development, in alpha, in beta, or even released will ever stay 100% the same. MMORPG's are constantly evolving and changing. STOP TRYING to predict the future and assuming your predictions are correct and people who disagree are wrong
    4. If they really needed to go back to the "hardcore" or "old school" style of MMO, they would have. It's a niche market, hence why EVERY major MMO is more "friendly" and as the haters say "carebear" because guess what, it's working! the genre itself has expanded and grown, and is making an obscene amount of money.
    So give it a rest already!!!!
    How about we talk about something constructive? personal reviews of game that are done with taste and not assuming superiority that "i dislike/like this game so you should to."
    constructive ideas on how/what you would like to see and why it would work/be cool/ etc.
    Yes, there are post of this nature out there, and I applaud those who post them for trying to be constructive, but for the rest who keep posting the SAME OLD CRAP time and time and time and time again....
    Give it a rest already!
    Yeah, I know I don't have to read it, and I don't in most cases, guess I'm just bored of scrolling through the forum topics and seeing the same 4 posts over and over and over and over and over and over and over.....
    And based on your diatribe what makes your 'opinion' any more valid than anyone else ?



    Did you get flamed in a post and felt the need to come here an vent, attempting to take to moral high ground whilst doing the same thing you are complaining about is hypocritcal.


  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    i'm not saying my opinion is better, i'm not saying it's worse

    i'm not doing this inflame people into response as they do with the "___sucks you suck etc etc" posts

    and it is the moral high ground to not behave like a child and purposely insult/look down on people

     

    just asking for a little common sense and for people to think twice before posting the same rant that 30,700,432 other people have posted before

    and i never get flamed in posts because i don't flame others. unless they really, really, really deserve it

  • iddmitriiddmitri Member UncommonPosts: 671
    Heerobya you are so smart, might be you can earn 5mil dollars and make your own mmorpg? I laugh at you, seriously what kind of smart person says everyone to "give it a rest" on forums!!! Man you must be on drugs.
  • SBC3SBC3 Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 372
    Hello PEOPLE this is a MMORPG forum!!!!  This is a place to talk about all them things...
  • MadAceMadAce Member Posts: 2,461
    Originally posted by dmitri84

    Heerobya you are so smart, might be you can earn 5mil dollars and make your own mmorpg? I laugh at you, seriously what kind of smart person says everyone to "give it a rest" on forums!!! Man you must be on drugs.
    In that case I think everyone should be on drugs.
  • iddmitriiddmitri Member UncommonPosts: 671
    [quote]Originally posted by MadAce In that case I think everyone should be on drugs.[/quote]



  • MW2KMW2K Member UncommonPosts: 1,036

    To the OP: do you seriously think people are gonig to "give it a rest"? If you're Catholic buddy, go and pray to St. Jude, patron saint of lost and hopeless causes.

  • Zaxx99Zaxx99 Member Posts: 1,761

    Ok, let's sum up the OP:

    Hmmm, let's bitch about people bitching... regardless of whether their rants have any merit or not.

    Let's work on thinking of more WOW type clone games and features that might make a ton of money even if that's not what we truly desire and want ourselves. Because posting about games or topics of things we want to see in mmos today that just aren't out there is considered more "ranting and bitching".

    Let's bitch some more about how we are sick and tired of seeing bitching on a mmorpg site.

    Let's whine that all we see is the same kindof topic repeated over and over, because that really is a shock on an mmo website. I mean in the real world, people would NEVER, EVER talk about the same subjects. In the real world, I've only ever heard the topics of such things of food and sex come up once. Oh yeh, and I've only ever heard ONE blonde joke in my life! I can't possibly imagine why in the world topics come up over and over on this site! ...Bitch some more about it.

    There we go.

    I think I summed it all up pretty nicely in about half the space and got even more to what the OP was trying to say.

    - Zaxx


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  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by heerobya


    1. Soooo many threads about "developers suck and no innovation in genre, it's all about the money!" etc etc etc
    2. Soooo many threads about "why ____ sucks or why _____ is better then _____" etc etc etc
    3. Soooo many threads about "this game no one has seen will change everything and be better then your favorite!" etc etc etc
    4. Soooo many threads about "Need to go back to "hardcore" or "oldschool" or "all new MMOs carebear."" etc etc etc
     
    Give it a rest already!!!!
    1. Of course it's about money, without money, no game, so how do you get LOTS of money? make a good game people want to play and keep playing.
    2. People will always have opinions on what they like/dislike or what they think is better/worse but STOP ASSUMING you are "right" and flaming people for being "wrong" because opinions cannot be right or wrong, they are opinions! based on personal likes/dislikes and experience, not absolute fact...
    3. No game in development, in alpha, in beta, or even released will ever stay 100% the same. MMORPG's are constantly evolving and changing. STOP TRYING to predict the future and assuming your predictions are correct and people who disagree are wrong
    4. If they really needed to go back to the "hardcore" or "old school" style of MMO, they would have. It's a niche market, hence why EVERY major MMO is more "friendly" and as the haters say "carebear" because guess what, it's working! the genre itself has expanded and grown, and is making an obscene amount of money.
    So give it a rest already!!!!
    How about we talk about something constructive? personal reviews of game that are done with taste and not assuming superiority that "i dislike/like this game so you should to."
    constructive ideas on how/what you would like to see and why it would work/be cool/ etc.
    Yes, there are post of this nature out there, and I applaud those who post them for trying to be constructive, but for the rest who keep posting the SAME OLD CRAP time and time and time and time again....
    Give it a rest already!
    Yeah, I know I don't have to read it, and I don't in most cases, guess I'm just bored of scrolling through the forum topics and seeing the same 4 posts over and over and over and over and over and over and over.....
    I think there is a flaw in your  post.



    At first, you point out that there are many  flaming threads out there, which is true. Then you list several points which make up a sizable chunk of current constructive criticism to wards MMORPGs in general. I mean, if we cant discuss if a specific MMORPG is too hardcore or not, then whats left to discuss? If I consider a game to have very grinding combat but someone else does, theres just nothing I can realy do to convinve the other person if that other person doesnt consider repetative combat grinding. But disscussions like that are healthy, as long as they are kept constructive and meaningfull, and not "U sux cuase u like/dislike grind".



    I think u had the right idea but did it in the wrong way.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979

    think you all miss the point....

    it's not that this isn't the place to talk about this kind of stuff..... it's obviously MMORPG.com, and these are obviously the forums....

    I just hate seeing the exact same post with the exact same text over and over and over again.

    how many "Why WoW sucks" or "why vanguard sucks" posts have there been?

    i enjoy reading and posting on this site because i do like to see what other people have to say, gives some perspective and honestly gives me something to do at work. it's just that recently it's ALL been the same thing repeated over and over...

    that, is the point.

    so flame on all you want, just proving my point even more.

    "omg this guy disagrees with me time for uber flame rant!"

     

  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979
    Originally posted by m0d3stm0us3

    Yea, great idea....lets piss off the people that u just got done complaining about.  Stop complaining about complainers, its just as bad.  I think there are probably more posts about these things then there are about the examples u give.  Your just as bad as the ones you are bashing on.



    btw i just love how people reacted to this. i may not be the most eliquent with my words, but the level to which some people were upset by this post I really find hillarious.

    I know complaining about complainers accomplishes nothing, not an idiot, but sometimes you have to show people how ridiculous things are sometimes using language they can understand.....

    hence why you see some of the flame responses to the original post

  • Zaxx99Zaxx99 Member Posts: 1,761
    To quote your own words buddy...





    "Give it a rest already!"  







    -  Zaxx

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  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979
    Originally posted by zaxtor99

    To quote your own words buddy...





    "Give it a rest already!"  







    -  Zaxx
    just defending myself is all. buddy.
  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Well, there will be as many posts with same point as there are people on this site. Cant realy have 1 post with thousands of replies regarding one aspect of a game, can you?

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor - pre-WW2 genocide.
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  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979
    Originally posted by jimmyman99

    Well, there will be as many posts with same point as there are people on this site. Cant realy have 1 post with thousands of replies regarding one aspect of a game, can you?



    touche

     

    guess I mostly refer to the intentional "flame" posts... For instance "Why L2 sucks."

    what's the point? just going to egg people on

  • DariniusDarinius Member UncommonPosts: 9

    I have to agree with the OP.  I can predict the headlines of the posts for the next week based on the last week and the week before and on and on.  I may be wrong but I think all he was trying to say is lets show a little respect towards each other and try and discuss the MMO world in a constructive way.  We all have valuable perspectives and the community is stronger when we get creative with our communication and don't make it always "me" against "you"

    With a little time and care, we can make our points to each other without such extreme language and hate.  After all, it doesn's cost us anything to say, carebear, noob, idiot or whatever the favorite terms of endearment are for the time being.  But to actually think about what we want to say and defend our positions inteligently takes an investment of our time and energy.

    Can't wait for the replies.  I have a feeling they will prove my point

  • BadSpockBadSpock Member UncommonPosts: 7,979
    Originally posted by Darinius


    I have to agree with the OP.  I can predict the headlines of the posts for the next week based on the last week and the week before and on and on.  I may be wrong but I think all he was trying to say is lets show a little respect towards each other and try and discuss the MMO world in a constructive way.  We all have valuable perspectives and the community is stronger when we get creative with our communication and don't make it always "me" against "you"
    With a little time and care, we can make our points to each other without such extreme language and hate.  After all, it doesn's cost us anything to say, carebear, noob, idiot or whatever the favorite terms of endearment are for the time being.  But to actually think about what we want to say and defend our positions inteligently takes an investment of our time and energy.
    Can't wait for the replies.  I have a feeling they will prove my point
    hurray! another adult! hurray! thanks
  • elvenangelelvenangel Member Posts: 2,205

    ...someone I agree with..*gazes at the OP* course I would of never been brave enough to go and write a complaint about all the moaners, griefers, flamers, etc.   (does the golf clap in a polite manner)  

    It is increasingly frustrating these days to find good information at all on these boards thats of any real use.   I chalk that up to all the posters that can't spell, use periods, commas and spaces at all or they can't say anything constructive at all.  

    Funny how this post brought out some of  the troll griefers lol.   If you're offended by the original post perhaps its because you know the post is speaking about you?

    Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!

  • MunkiMunki Member CommonPosts: 2,128
    Originally posted by heerobya


    i'm not saying my opinion is better, i'm not saying it's worse
    i'm not doing this inflame people into response as they do with the "___sucks you suck etc etc" posts
    and it is the moral high ground to not behave like a child and purposely insult/look down on people
     
    just asking for a little common sense and for people to think twice before posting the same rant that 30,700,432 other people have posted before
    and i never get flamed in posts because i don't flame others. unless they really, really, really deserve it
    The problem with democarcy is that everyone can vote.

    I understand what your saying Heero, but that would require posters with IQ's that didn't rival rocks. You just gota seive through the gibberish to find some gold.

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    after 6 or so years, I had to change it a little...

  • damond5031damond5031 Member UncommonPosts: 445
    Finding any really useful info in these forums is like trying to smell a flea fart in a hurricane, and yet we all keep coming back for more. I personally liken my perusal of these  forums to sifting through a mountain of turds just to find that one perfectly preserved piece of corn, it takes awhile to find what your looking for, but when you do......hoooooooeeeeeeeeey..yum ..yum...yum...  That could just be me tho.
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