There is plenty of friendly competition in a PVE game. There is competition for best items, fastest leveling, most advanced crafter, etc. all of which are aided by preorder in-game advantages. It's a bad precedent to sell in-game advantages of any degree and game companies that don't understand this are just being greedy. I can't support a game that starts off on this basis. It doesn't bode well for future game policies.
Maybe that is why some people play mmo's, but there are a lot of us, who don't care if we have the "best" items, we enjoy the game instead of rushing through to be the highest level as fast as we can. And I was given a nice item for pre-ordering DDO, it didn't make a darn bit of difference in the game play that I noticed. It's not like they are giving out lvl 50 items to lvl 1 chars. So you get an item or two that gives you a +1 to some stat....wooo big advantage....not. lol
Oh and I have been in beta, I have it pre-ordered and I am seriously thinking about the $200 option.
Julie "Lissette" Myers Lissette, Lissy, Lyssette etc of LotRO formally, Lissette, Lissy, Lyssette etc of DDO Lyssette of Anarchy Online Lissette of Shadowbane Lissette of Asheron's Call Lissy of World of Warcraft And many more!
I agree and according to the FAQ here they will have a public open beta beginning April 06 according to item 10 and according to item 26 you have until April 24 to pre order so that would give you 18 days to try before you buy.
I have talked to some people that are in the LOTRO beta. It sounds like the game will be mostly PVE with a large number of quests. The PvP can be done as an evil character (level 10+ main character) or a good character (level 40+ main character) in a massive PvP map. Good and Evil fight over contested forts and bases for controll of the map. I hear LOTRO is rather polished already. If I wanted to play another mostly PvE with some PvP I would give this game a shot (especially with this founder and reduced subscription cost promotion). However I want a more PvP oriented game. I am waiting for possibly WAR, AoC, or Huxley.
I was invited to the Weekend beta stress test, downloaded the with the recomended download agent 2+ gig of client clicked the Setup icon and, (drum roll please) NOTHING. Well I would have to say I think that pretty much settles it for me. Wouldn't touch LotRO with a tenfoot poll. Just my opinion.
I was invited to the Weekend beta stress test, downloaded the with the recomended download agent 2+ gig of client clicked the Setup icon and, (drum roll please) NOTHING. Well I would have to say I think that pretty much settles it for me. Wouldn't touch LotRO with a tenfoot poll. Just my opinion.
Originally posted by Jackdog Originally posted by Stormsender I was invited to the Weekend beta stress test, downloaded the with the recomended download agent 2+ gig of client clicked the Setup icon and, (drum roll please) NOTHING. Well I would have to say I think that pretty much settles it for me. Wouldn't touch LotRO with a tenfoot poll. Just my opinion.
Ever think it might be operator error?
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
I was invited to the Weekend beta stress test, downloaded the with the recomended download agent 2+ gig of client clicked the Setup icon and, (drum roll please) NOTHING. Well I would have to say I think that pretty much settles it for me. Wouldn't touch LotRO with a tenfoot poll. Just my opinion.
Ever think it might be operator error?
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
I don't know how many people are in the beta but obviously more than a few have not had any problems.By rthe way it still is closed beta for 2 more months, not try before buy or open beta which begins April 06.
I was invited to the Weekend beta stress test, downloaded the with the recomended download agent 2+ gig of client clicked the Setup icon and, (drum roll please) NOTHING. Well I would have to say I think that pretty much settles it for me. Wouldn't touch LotRO with a tenfoot poll. Just my opinion.
Ever think it might be operator error?
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
I don't know how many people are in the beta but obviously more than a few have not had any problems.By rthe way it still is closed beta for 2 more months, not try before buy or open beta which begins April 06.
Obviously the point of my post has escaped you to the extent that you are answering what I am saying blinded by your own thoughts on subjets not related to what I am saying. So I will make this my last attempt at clearification; I won't play the game because of MY percieved problem turbine has with their client, with a game this high profile I don't want to see anything broken, end of story.
I am not interested with every other beta testers experiences, or when the open beta starts or any try before you buy nonsense you mentioned. When Turbine invites ME to test I make MY decission based on MY experiences, the software failed, leaving a bad impression, don't need to see anything more. So MY opinion is "I wouldn't buy it" Your comments are waisted on this subject with me, by all means you can tell other people your opinions of course. But your comments that are pointed at my posts make no sense to me, at least the way I see it. For what it's worth, that is MY opinion, your not going to change it.
I was invited to the Weekend beta stress test, downloaded the with the recomended download agent 2+ gig of client clicked the Setup icon and, (drum roll please) NOTHING. Well I would have to say I think that pretty much settles it for me. Wouldn't touch LotRO with a tenfoot poll. Just my opinion.
Ever think it might be operator error?
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
I don't know how many people are in the beta but obviously more than a few have not had any problems.By rthe way it still is closed beta for 2 more months, not try before buy or open beta which begins April 06.
Obviously the point of my post has escaped you to the extent that you are answering what I am saying blinded by your own thoughts on subjets not related to what I am saying. So I will make this my last attempt at clearification; I won't play the game because of MY percieved problem turbine has with their client, with a game this high profile I don't want to see anything broken, end of story.
I am not interested with every other beta testers experiences, or when the open beta starts or any try before you buy nonsense you mentioned. When Turbine invites ME to test I make MY decission based on MY experiences, the software failed, leaving a bad impression, don't need to see anything more. So MY opinion is "I wouldn't buy it" Your comments are waisted on this subject with me, by all means you can tell other people your opinions of course. But your comments that are pointed at my posts make no sense to me, at least the way I see it. For what it's worth, that is MY opinion, your not going to change it.
I really don't even see any point at all to any of your 20 something posts about this or any other games you have commented on to be honest
Lifetime subscription is only available to preorders. After the game comes out it won't be available to new players. So they basicly want to even out the loss they have making this game right off the bat, and then survive on the next subscribers that won't preorder. It's not a bad idea, a bit risky but still, fun. I'll do it
Average subscriber for WoW = 14 months or 15 x 14 = 210 dollars
average subscriber time for any game except WoW = 6 months.
If you cancel with the 9.99 deal and resub for an expansion or whatever later it will be 15 a month. Pure marketing genius in my opinion. These games are a business after all and if they don't make money on them they would stop making them.
Average subscriber for WoW = 14 months or 15 x 14 = 210 dollars average subscriber time for any game except WoW = 6 months
Thtat statistic seems made up. Sure Wow is a sucessfull game financially. But I would bet the older MMO's such as UO, EQ, DAoC have a longer average subscriber time than WoW.
I'm really tempted to get this pre-order for the $10 a month price alone, especially if I want to try the game later on. However I'm not even sure if I want to play the game. Decisions to make.
I'm really tempted to get this pre-order for the $10 a month price alone, especially if I want to try the game later on. However I'm not even sure if I want to play the game. Decisions to make.
There will be a open to the public beta beginning April 06 according to #10 of this FAQ
that will give you about three weeks to decide if the game is for you before spending a dime. Play it before paying in order to make a informed desicion is always a giood thing if in doubt. I am going to pre order as soon as Best Buy has the pre order boxes on the shelf but that is just me.
As long as the game doesn't go under. Lifetime is a win win for everyone. What if you do get bored with it...I wonder how much a life time account will end up going for on ebay? I bet either way you more then make your original 200 back...
"It is better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees,"
Originally posted by morgande you can find the euro pre-order deatils at www.lotro-europe.com/preorder.php Unfortunately the options are not quite the same. Either £99.99 for a lifetime membership or a six month package for £35.94 (£5.99/month)
Aye but where are these European pre-orders. Play.com are showing 24/04/2007 (launch date) for their pre-orders. Gameplay.co.uk are showing 30 March 2007. GAME are showing Preorder - 24-Apr-2007 (launch day).
Codemasters state: Ten days Early access into the game before its commercial launch on April 24th. No UK company is offering any sort of pre order pack or release for April 10th or prior. I've had this pre-ordered at Play.com since 20/04/2006 because I knew I'd be at least trying it due to the IP. I don't know if I should let this pre-order stand or not.
Maybe it's too early and the pre-order packs will appear soon and closer to release. I sure as hell hope they don't pull a "Blizzard" type release strategy and piss all over us folks in the UK like that company always does.
“Hustlers of the world, there is one mark you cannot beat: the mark inside.”
―
William S. Burroughs
I was invited to the Weekend beta stress test, downloaded the with the recomended download agent 2+ gig of client clicked the Setup icon and, (drum roll please) NOTHING. Well I would have to say I think that pretty much settles it for me. Wouldn't touch LotRO with a tenfoot poll. Just my opinion.
Ever think it might be operator error?
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
I don't know how many people are in the beta but obviously more than a few have not had any problems.By rthe way it still is closed beta for 2 more months, not try before buy or open beta which begins April 06.
Obviously the point of my post has escaped you to the extent that you are answering what I am saying blinded by your own thoughts on subjets not related to what I am saying. So I will make this my last attempt at clearification; I won't play the game because of MY percieved problem turbine has with their client, with a game this high profile I don't want to see anything broken, end of story.
I am not interested with every other beta testers experiences, or when the open beta starts or any try before you buy nonsense you mentioned. When Turbine invites ME to test I make MY decission based on MY experiences, the software failed, leaving a bad impression, don't need to see anything more. So MY opinion is "I wouldn't buy it" Your comments are waisted on this subject with me, by all means you can tell other people your opinions of course. But your comments that are pointed at my posts make no sense to me, at least the way I see it. For what it's worth, that is MY opinion, your not going to change it.
If you're in the IT field like so many of us then why do you seem so oblivious to the requirements of testing, the aim being to discover bugs such as the one you seem to be struggling to cope with? If you have so little tolerance for faults then why get involved with the beta testing at all when you can just wait another couple of months for the finished (polished and bullet proof) product which I'm sure will run fine on your PC?
Being invited to join in the beta test is a privilege not a right and as such it should be treated as an opportunity. An opportunity to help improve & polish the final product, perhaps even shaping it's development through feedback & ideas. It's an opportunity that many would relish and it saddens me to see such a blinkered approach from someone who by their own admission works in the IT sector.
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Maybe that is why some people play mmo's, but there are a lot of us, who don't care if we have the "best" items, we enjoy the game instead of rushing through to be the highest level as fast as we can. And I was given a nice item for pre-ordering DDO, it didn't make a darn bit of difference in the game play that I noticed. It's not like they are giving out lvl 50 items to lvl 1 chars. So you get an item or two that gives you a +1 to some stat....wooo big advantage....not. lol
Oh and I have been in beta, I have it pre-ordered and I am seriously thinking about the $200 option.
Julie "Lissette" Myers
Lissette, Lissy, Lyssette etc of LotRO
formally,
Lissette, Lissy, Lyssette etc of DDO
Lyssette of Anarchy Online
Lissette of Shadowbane
Lissette of Asheron's Call
Lissy of World of Warcraft
And many more!
http://lotro.turbine.com/index.php?page_id=103
I agree and according to the FAQ here they will have a public open beta beginning April 06 according to item 10 and according to item 26 you have until April 24 to pre order so that would give you 18 days to try before you buy.
I miss DAoC
I have talked to some people that are in the LOTRO beta. It sounds like the game will be mostly PVE with a large number of quests. The PvP can be done as an evil character (level 10+ main character) or a good character (level 40+ main character) in a massive PvP map. Good and Evil fight over contested forts and bases for controll of the map. I hear LOTRO is rather polished already. If I wanted to play another mostly PvE with some PvP I would give this game a shot (especially with this founder and reduced subscription cost promotion). However I want a more PvP oriented game. I am waiting for possibly WAR, AoC, or Huxley.
I was invited to the Weekend beta stress test, downloaded the with the recomended download agent 2+ gig of client clicked the Setup icon and, (drum roll please) NOTHING. Well I would have to say I think that pretty much settles it for me. Wouldn't touch LotRO with a tenfoot poll. Just my opinion.
I miss DAoC
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
I don't know how many people are in the beta but obviously more than a few have not had any problems.By rthe way it still is closed beta for 2 more months, not try before buy or open beta which begins April 06.
I miss DAoC
Obviously the point of my post has escaped you to the extent that you are answering what I am saying blinded by your own thoughts on subjets not related to what I am saying. So I will make this my last attempt at clearification; I won't play the game because of MY percieved problem turbine has with their client, with a game this high profile I don't want to see anything broken, end of story.
I am not interested with every other beta testers experiences, or when the open beta starts or any try before you buy nonsense you mentioned. When Turbine invites ME to test I make MY decission based on MY experiences, the software failed, leaving a bad impression, don't need to see anything more. So MY opinion is "I wouldn't buy it" Your comments are waisted on this subject with me, by all means you can tell other people your opinions of course. But your comments that are pointed at my posts make no sense to me, at least the way I see it. For what it's worth, that is MY opinion, your not going to change it.
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
I don't know how many people are in the beta but obviously more than a few have not had any problems.By rthe way it still is closed beta for 2 more months, not try before buy or open beta which begins April 06.
Obviously the point of my post has escaped you to the extent that you are answering what I am saying blinded by your own thoughts on subjets not related to what I am saying. So I will make this my last attempt at clearification; I won't play the game because of MY percieved problem turbine has with their client, with a game this high profile I don't want to see anything broken, end of story.
I am not interested with every other beta testers experiences, or when the open beta starts or any try before you buy nonsense you mentioned. When Turbine invites ME to test I make MY decission based on MY experiences, the software failed, leaving a bad impression, don't need to see anything more. So MY opinion is "I wouldn't buy it" Your comments are waisted on this subject with me, by all means you can tell other people your opinions of course. But your comments that are pointed at my posts make no sense to me, at least the way I see it. For what it's worth, that is MY opinion, your not going to change it.
I really don't even see any point at all to any of your 20 something posts about this or any other games you have commented on to be honest
I miss DAoC
Average subscriber for WoW = 14 months or 15 x 14 = 210 dollars
average subscriber time for any game except WoW = 6 months.
If you cancel with the 9.99 deal and resub for an expansion or whatever later it will be 15 a month. Pure marketing genius in my opinion. These games are a business after all and if they don't make money on them they would stop making them.
I miss DAoC
Thtat statistic seems made up. Sure Wow is a sucessfull game financially. But I would bet the older MMO's such as UO, EQ, DAoC have a longer average subscriber time than WoW.
There will be a open to the public beta beginning April 06 according to #10 of this FAQ
http://lotro.turbine.com/index.php?page_id=103
that will give you about three weeks to decide if the game is for you before spending a dime. Play it before paying in order to make a informed desicion is always a giood thing if in doubt. I am going to pre order as soon as Best Buy has the pre order boxes on the shelf but that is just me.
I miss DAoC
"It is better to die on one's feet than to live on one's knees,"
Aye but where are these European pre-orders. Play.com are showing 24/04/2007 (launch date) for their pre-orders. Gameplay.co.uk are showing 30 March 2007. GAME are showing Preorder - 24-Apr-2007 (launch day).
Codemasters state: Ten days Early access into the game before its commercial launch on April 24th. No UK company is offering any sort of pre order pack or release for April 10th or prior. I've had this pre-ordered at Play.com since 20/04/2006 because I knew I'd be at least trying it due to the IP. I don't know if I should let this pre-order stand or not.
Maybe it's too early and the pre-order packs will appear soon and closer to release. I sure as hell hope they don't pull a "Blizzard" type release strategy and piss all over us folks in the UK like that company always does.
“Hustlers of the world, there is one mark you cannot beat: the mark inside.”
― William S. Burroughs
No it's not operator error(nice you instantly assume faulty sofware performance is the fault of the user) when you download it 3 times and it fails to launch every time. I am in the IT field I know how to trouble shoot problems. Thats not the issue so much as the fact that if you want people to play your game every thing needs polish and at the very least it need to function as intended, which the client download clearly does not. It really should be bullet proof but unfortunately I am left with a bad impression with the developer and thier project. Simple as that, I hope that is clear enough for you.
I don't know how many people are in the beta but obviously more than a few have not had any problems.By rthe way it still is closed beta for 2 more months, not try before buy or open beta which begins April 06.
Obviously the point of my post has escaped you to the extent that you are answering what I am saying blinded by your own thoughts on subjets not related to what I am saying. So I will make this my last attempt at clearification; I won't play the game because of MY percieved problem turbine has with their client, with a game this high profile I don't want to see anything broken, end of story.
I am not interested with every other beta testers experiences, or when the open beta starts or any try before you buy nonsense you mentioned. When Turbine invites ME to test I make MY decission based on MY experiences, the software failed, leaving a bad impression, don't need to see anything more. So MY opinion is "I wouldn't buy it" Your comments are waisted on this subject with me, by all means you can tell other people your opinions of course. But your comments that are pointed at my posts make no sense to me, at least the way I see it. For what it's worth, that is MY opinion, your not going to change it.
If you're in the IT field like so many of us then why do you seem so oblivious to the requirements of testing, the aim being to discover bugs such as the one you seem to be struggling to cope with? If you have so little tolerance for faults then why get involved with the beta testing at all when you can just wait another couple of months for the finished (polished and bullet proof) product which I'm sure will run fine on your PC?
Being invited to join in the beta test is a privilege not a right and as such it should be treated as an opportunity. An opportunity to help improve & polish the final product, perhaps even shaping it's development through feedback & ideas. It's an opportunity that many would relish and it saddens me to see such a blinkered approach from someone who by their own admission works in the IT sector.