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xp intel pentium 4 2.2 ati readon 8500 will it run vanguard

molovianmolovian Member UncommonPosts: 29
in Vanguard: Saga of Heroes
I have a xp intel pentium 4 2.2 ati readon 8500 with a sb live sound card. Anyone have experience running with this configuration at any graphics setting. I can't afford any upgrades and was wondering if the game will play. It sys in there knowledgebase that it suppports the readon 8500 but was wondering if anyone has tried it and can verify that vanguard runs.



thanks in advance for any info.


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  • LowdosLowdos Member Posts: 644
    Well I run the game on -



    AMD 64+ 3200

    1.5g 3200 DDR

    ATI X800Pro 256 MB

    Audigy 2 SB

    // 8MB Connection



    And the game runs pretty terrible for me, tbh.



    DEMANDING requirements is not the word to describe this game!





    (fixed typo)
  • ShijukiShijuki Member UncommonPosts: 318
    Originally posted by molovian


    I have a xp intel pentium 4 2.2 ati readon 8500 with a sb live sound card. Anyone have experience running with this configuration at any graphics setting. I can't afford any upgrades and was wondering if the game will play. It sys in there knowledgebase that it suppports the readon 8500 but was wondering if anyone has tried it and can verify that vanguard runs.



    thanks in advance for any info.
     
     
    Not a chance, I have a Radeon 9800 pro, AMD XP 2.1Ghz, 1GB RAM and it runs very poorly, although I havent tried to tweak the settings but I figured there wont be that much of a difference anyway.
  • SlangrothSlangroth Member Posts: 33

    it should run at about  5 frames per second or so

  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232

    If I had.....

    2.1 GHZ amd processor

    2 GB RAM

    Nvidia BFG overclocked 6000 series graphics

    Would this game run ok at the lowest graphics settings and 640 x 860 resolution?

     

    Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.

  • LowdosLowdos Member Posts: 644
    Unfotunately not, since the minimum resolution requirement is 1024x768.



    (The UI would be a total mess at anything lower).
  • SlangrothSlangroth Member Posts: 33

    hmm hmmm hmm, with everything down, about 15-25 fps

  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232

    I could adjust the resolution up to that its just that my pops computer has that 2.1 processor and I wanted to make sure he could play it with that.

    He aint gonna buy a brand new computer to play this game. Maybe we will just wait for LOTRO.

    Critical thinking is a desire to seek, patience to doubt, fondness to meditate, slowness to assert, readiness to consider, carefulness to dispose and set in order; and hatred for every kind of imposture.

  • ThamorisThamoris Member UncommonPosts: 686

    Amd 3500, nvid 6600, 1 gig of ram and the game RUNS WELL for me at next to lowest graphic settings and grass turned off....however !!! even an such low graphical settings the draw distance is very good and the game looks very ..very nice ! I average 20 fps in town and 30+ out of town!...with minor stutters ...

    so.....unless you are expecting consol type gameplay ...you should be fine !! Don't listen to those that say you won't because they likely think anything less than 60 fps is terrible. After 30 fps one can barely notice a difference. ...20 fps is plenty smooth for me.

  • SlangrothSlangroth Member Posts: 33

    lol barely notice a difference? my eye can tell the difference from 30 fps and 100 fps, and it is a big difference

  • ThamorisThamoris Member UncommonPosts: 686
    Originally posted by Slangroth


    lol barely notice a difference? my eye can tell the difference from 30 fps and 100 fps, and it is a big difference

    It's fact..the eye can not tell the difference over 30 frames per second. I read that somewhere and I am not going to bother looking it up..but that has been my experience too. Think about it....30 frames per second.

    Say...1 mississippisi...ok..30 frames just went by...can you see each frame ? no

    What makes the difference is how much of a difference there is between each frame. That depends on the quality of the coding and how much each frame is showing. Think of a slideshow...30 slides in a second..think you will notice the difference between 40 slides in a second..and 30 slides in a second? ..no....it will just be one big blur ..either way. Ya wouldn't even be able to tell anything just happened...its that fast !

    Whether it was 30 slides that just went by in that second or 100...all you would see is the first one..and the last one, and not a thing in between.

  • ThamorisThamoris Member UncommonPosts: 686

    I have played mmo's at 10 fps for months...now that did suck, but the gameplay  was such I tolerated it. I think my age ( 35) has alot to do with my tolerance level. I think many of the younger folks are spoiled by years of xbox play..jump into a mmo..love the freedom but expect the same quality and consistancy of a consol game. It just doesn't work that way...mmorpg is far..far more complex and open to far...far more variables. Thats the price we pay for freedom.

    Besides....your average mmo costs 20 cents an hour to play for the average gamer over the span of a year...I can't see any room to bitch about +/- 10 fps with a value that strong.

  • SlangrothSlangroth Member Posts: 33

    Since its fact may I see the evidence?

  • ThamorisThamoris Member UncommonPosts: 686

    Go find it yourself. I don't have the time or desire. Believe me or not...if you wish to remain ignorant ..that is your choice. You go find it and prove me wrong.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FPS

  • SlangrothSlangroth Member Posts: 33

    ah, all I see is that we can see over 60 frame per second,

    http://amo.net/NT/05-24-01FPS.html, scroll to the bottom 

  • ThomasHolmThomasHolm Member Posts: 34
    Basically it runs down to the flicker fusion threshold (or flicker fusion rate). This is defined as the frequency at which an intermittent light stimulus appears to be completely steady to the observer.



    Standard movie frame rate is 24 fps. Standard European and Australian TV (PAL standard) is 25i, 25 fps interlaced to simulate 50. Music videos, MTV, VH-1, etc. are shot at 30fps. Most cartoons and anime run at 12-18 fps.



    In computer games, 25-30 fps is considered fluent. The entire GTA series operates at a software-fixed 25fps rate.



    Easy to check for yourself by the way. Get an adjustable strobe light. Set it at different flash rates and check whether you see independent flashes or a steady light. Caution: only do this if you do not suffer from flash-induced epilepsy.
  • ThamorisThamoris Member UncommonPosts: 686
    Originally posted by ThomasHolm

    Basically it runs down to the flicker fusion threshold (or flicker fusion rate). This is defined as the frequency at which an intermittent light stimulus appears to be completely steady to the observer.



    Standard movie frame rate is 24 fps. Standard European and Australian TV (PAL standard) is 25i, 25 fps interlaced to simulate 50. Music videos, MTV, VH-1, etc. are shot at 30fps.



    In computer games, 25-30 fps is considered fluent. The entire GTA series operates at a software-fixed 25fps rate.



    Easy to check for yourself by the way. Get an adjustable strobe light. Set it at different flash rates and check whether you see independent flashes or a steady light. Caution: only do this if you do not suffer from flash-induced epilepsy.



    Well said

    There are many variables involved and it depends on the media.

    Point being...my experience has been..in mmorpg's...20-30 fps is plenty good to enjoy oneself.

  • Big_ScooterBig_Scooter Member Posts: 14
    The point of having a higher framerate isn't that a game will actually look better under normal circumstances.  A frame rate of 30 is perfectly acceptable, but the problem is that if you walk into a large area, or a lot of crap starts to happen on the screen your fps will drop.



    As I understand it, anything above 30-35 fps is simply a buffer zone, so you don't have to watch a slide show when something crazy happens.
  • Hu1venHu1ven Member Posts: 64
    Originally posted by Slangroth


    lol barely notice a difference? my eye can tell the difference from 30 fps and 100 fps, and it is a big difference
    I believe it is above 60 FPS the eye cannot detect a difference.
  • TithrielleTithrielle Member Posts: 547
    Um, of course it will. I've been playing the game on a 1.2ghz althon xp, 1.25gigs ram and a radeon x1800... granted I'm upgrading, but it is physically playable.
  • DikamekDikamek Member Posts: 12
    I played beta with a Pentium 4 2.4ghz Northwood, a Geforce 5700 256mb DDR, and 2gb DDR memory.  At the lowest video settings I could barely play the game.  I have since upgraded my computer for release with a Pentium 3.4ghz Prescott and a Geforce 7800GS 256mb DDR3, and 2gb DDR memory and it runs better even with graphics turned up to balanced.  I don't think you can play Vanguard very well. 

    Dikamek

  • ViktaalViktaal Member Posts: 78
    P4 2.4, 1gig 1066 rdram, radeon 9800 oc'd to pro.....



    Is it playeable? depends on what you consider "playable".  For me, 15second chunk zone lag and 5 fps in a city IS NOT PLAYABLE.Outdoors I would see up to 30 fps until I either got into a pvp fight or any people came around. Then it would drop down to the teens or below. I tried going on a few group level mob runs and I averaged 1-4fps. So if you don't mind dieing because it took 15 seconds to cross a chunk and you aggrod, or mind getting 5fps in a city, or can't hit the group mob areas, then yes it is playable.



    This was at the end of open beta BTW. Sigil promised a 10% increase in fps after the debugging code was removed. So instead of 5 fps in a city you might get 6fps. That is not even considering a populated city or area. So with that said I would recommend buying a much better computer before you drop $60 just to play a slide show.  If you really feel you must play now I would suggest a Saphire 512mb x1950 pro AGP card as the very minimal upgrade. The downside is if you are going to rebuild in the near future then the new GFX card is rendered useless.
  • TerranahTerranah Member UncommonPosts: 3,575

    I have following:

    3.6 p4

    2gb ram (4x500)

    x850xt pcie 256mb

    Cable connection

    Game has been improving for me.  I'm now seeing 25 to 35 average.  It often drops into the low 20's and occasionally into single digits once in awhile, but usually only for a second and then jumps back up to 20+fps.  I am running game on balanced at min rez.

    To me its playable and I'm having a good time with it.  I ordered a x1950 pro 256mb card and new psu so hopefully I will be able to enjoy the eye candy more.  Hoping it will increase my fps too.

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