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am I crazy?

I am a 25 year old male that works in customer service. When I am not on the phone listening to people complain about their DTV, I am usually scratching notes down on a notepad dreaming of what I feel would be a great MMORPG. Originally I went to college for 3 years trying to get a bachelors in computer science. I discovered one very important but fatal flaw, I can't stand programming. I often find myself wondering what it would be like to be given the chance to create a MMORP, and I am sure I am not the only one that does. I also wonder if not being very good at programming or not even wanting to has a detrimental effect on that dream. I often think I am crazy to even be dreaming of one day turning my ideas into something real. Could an average Joe, especially one that is a poor computer programmer, actually have a chance at being part of something like this or am I really just crazy?

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  • JimmyPageJimmyPage Member Posts: 25
    Man thats not crazy at all. I think about make my own MMORPGs too sometimes. Hell, I've even drawn up all kinds of concept drawings for this one idea. Baddies, weapons, landscapes, characters stuff like that. It could happen, but then again Im only 13 and have much more time and opportunities. On second thought maybe you are crazy man, but good luck.image

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  • klaz20klaz20 Member Posts: 40
    Depends where you are in life. If you're settled down with a job already, then definetly it'll be impossible. However if you're still in school/college, it would be quite easy to meet interested programmers, and organise such a concept. Remember, programming is only part of the process. You'll still have to organise funding, organisation, legalities etc. Even if you're not interested in programming, you can find loads of unemployed programmers to do the work for you.

  • AnofalyeAnofalye Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,433

    Just play and feedback a lot!

     

    You have nothing to say anywhere, yet, you might get an ear to listen and who know!

     

    But without programming skills, there is not much you can hope then just sharing freely your thoughts.

     

    Buts many devs listen to thoughts and just remember something.

     

    Folks are usually resistants to new ideas :)  Dont give up, hold to your beliefs. :)  Eventually a dev will think of a similar idea and maybe it will be because you spam him/her, then will developp that idea and the fact maybe the others devs already ear that idea in more or less the same form, it might keep going.(instead of been turned out by others devs)

     

    But the only room you have in that is dreaming...

     

    Keep the dreaming, but no more...just play, spam and enjoy! :)  And dont expect anything ever, that the only way to keep the dreaming going! :)    Jump about the online entertainment train!  Oh, you still can dream to win huge amount of money in loto then hired some devs and make your game, that work to!  I mean, what do you need money for anyway, 20k a year is more then I can spend, so whatever else you win is extra...yummy...some loto amounts could bring some major competition!


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  • bamzenbamzen Member Posts: 39
    It really depends, you could supervise a MMORPG project if you liked, the project manager don't have to be able to program, draw sketches or anything, he just has to be a genius at making people work efficiently together and be good at logistics etc :)

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  • killerTwinkiekillerTwinkie Member CommonPosts: 1,694
    If you have a dream and you can get other people fired up about then you have the whole world in your hands.  Motivation and leaders are what the world will always need, if you can get a group of people fired up to do your project, then I would say go for it bro. image

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  • GnarledGnarled Member Posts: 566

    Typical start-up costs for a main-streem mmorpg seem to be around 10-20 million. No one seems to want to confirm that, but the numbers appear to be consitently thrown arround. So. . . unless you are a master of recruiting investors, it's probably more reasonable that you join someone else's team first, to show your value. How do you do that ? I don't have a clue. I'm guessing you either need formal game design education or you get a reputation through pro-bono stuff. Or, like anything else, maybe you just need to know somebody. . .

    Oh, and don't listen to flaming boi, he's an idjit and borderline troll.

     


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  • Plague_LordPlague_Lord Member Posts: 34
    ermm there is a great mmorpg creation engine, a topic about it is somewhere in the developers corner, go check it out if your interested

  • HammerhandHammerhand Member Posts: 28

    Thanks for all the posts guys, its cool to get other peoples thoughts on the matter. Just to randomly answer a couple of the comments I remember offhand. No I am not in what I would call a career. Infact it is my dissatifaction with my current job that has me looking for new ideas. As I stated I have made it through 3 years of college but ran out of money, as many usually do. I really do need to go back and finish in something, college is a stepping stone to everything else, but I keep putting it off because I enjoy school even less. I have, however, participated in many extra-curicular activities where I was solely responsible for organising, leading, and completing big projects. For example, in high school I was on the Yearbook staff and the only computer operator in the group. I was responsible for taking everyones parts and putting it all together on the computer. I also was in student goverment in college where I was responsible for organising events and running meetings. I am no stranger to being a leader and some say I can be quite good at it. I guess what has spawned all of this is the fact that I feel I am at a dead end in life and recently I have been kinda down about it but it always helps to have dreams I guess.

    Oh as far as flamingboi, I am aware, I have seen his trollish tendancies in actions many times.

  • bamzenbamzen Member Posts: 39

    Then the only problem you have is finding a job which suits that, being a leader usually requires a pretty good resume, and a good network amongst publishers, and to get that you need to be in the business - which again leads to some sort of education.

    To quote some others:

    "Twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things you didn't do than by the ones you did do. So throw off the bowlines. Sail away from the safe harbor. Catch the trade winds in your sails. Explore. Dream. Discover."
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  • GEOHDEGEOHDE Member Posts: 26
    No man your not crazy.. dream keep us alive.. everytime a play an mmorpg i get new and better idea's for my own game..i know it will never happen.. cuz i dont the first thing about the first thingimage..but i do know we do need better games so you gotta think out side the box..its hard to be the best sometimes ..but the best never know they are the best tell someone lets them know it...i myself dont see it costing 20/30 million to make a game.. cuz they will never make that back no matter how much the game cost or how big there fan base is..and the thing about investors is they are always look to shun you .. all you gotta do is give them a reason to like you.. a little charm goes a very long way.. btw guys same thing goes for chick lol image

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  • tricontricon Member Posts: 141
    Dude, you are not crazy. You are just like a normal human being living in a realistic / materialistic world. That is why we all luv mmorpg. image We need to dream and be a hero once in a while!image 

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  • digitydarkmandigitydarkman Member Posts: 2,194

    Me and two of my friends have already came up with an idea for an mmorpg that currently doesnt exist but would change the whole mmorpg world, we are currently still developing ideas and whatnot for it but we plan to have it all down on paper and were thinking about trying to contactsomeone about selling the idea, i wouldnt much car how much if anything we would get for the idea but if this game is made... ill die, ill let you all know if anything happens with it, untill then.. its classified material

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  • darkmandarkman Member UncommonPosts: 767


    Originally posted by Gnarled
    Typical start-up costs for a main-streem mmorpg seem to be around 10-20 million. No one seems to want to confirm that, but the numbers appear to be consitently thrown arround. So. . . unless you are a master of recruiting investors, it's probably more reasonable that you join someone else's team first, to show your value. How do you do that ? I don't have a clue. I'm guessing you either need formal game design education or you get a reputation through pro-bono stuff. Or, like anything else, maybe you just need to know somebody. . .
    Oh, and don't listen to flaming boi, he's an idjit and borderline troll.
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    Those kind of numbers are for start up costs to a big name MMORPG, if you are trying to start, say by creating a small 2d MMORPG, the costs will be SIGNIFICANTLY less. I doubt if he started in the MMORPG business he would start off with a big project, you got to work your way up :).


    And nah you aren't crazy, you have a dream, and like everyone else out there, we dream of one day doing something that we would want to do. In your case, it is creating an MMORPG, or something along those lines. I say go for it, even if you can't program, you can still supervise a project, start low, you know, raise some money, and then hire a couple of programmers, or even better, make a few friends who are programmers so it can be a more cheap kind of thing, then start small by making a little 2d MMORPG or a text based MMORPG, something like that. Then gradually progress, and eventually you might be up there somewhere in the big market. Everyone has to start small sometime.


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