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I bought the game today and I was shocked how bad it is.

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  • SlipursonSlipurson Member Posts: 4

    { Mod Edit }

     

    Originally posted by KombatJesus


    LOL< you didnt realize this guy made this account just to troll?

     

    I think most ppl belive that he is trolling.. but 14 posts in 18 days.. ive seen ppl with actual valid statements troll better!!

    back to topic: it seems to be some performance issues, i am sure they are working on it tho.. in the meantime.. get yourself a Wii ;)

  • SlipursonSlipurson Member Posts: 4

    Originally posted by ajax7


    I have a Core 2 PC, 2gig of ram and a ATI 1600xp Pro 512mb graphics card,
    This game is no where near as good as SWG was or even close to EQ2.
    The Graphics look horriable am I doing something wrong? I'm on Balanced the game lags and the graphics are such a let down.
    maybe my settings are bad please respond if you had this problem also.
    Thanks Ajax

    as someone said.. defrag, also update drivers, turn of antivirus programs (or atleast "realtime" scans) and shut down any un-needed applications that are running in the background.. for me this ment that i could go from Balanced to 1280x1024 with High Quality, with almost no FPS loss at all (i lowered the clip-distance abit tho, so it isnt 100% High Quality anymore)

    My computer is a A64 3400+ 2 gigs of ram and a ATi X850PRO GFX-card, even managed to play it on my laptop P4 3.2Ghz 1Gb RAM and an X600!! gfxcard.. tho on that i had to set almost everything to lowest but still 1440x900 resolution (as it is widescreen)

  • SharkypalSharkypal Member Posts: 1,137
    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by psykowhirl




    Unfortunately as the games progress, there will always be a time when you MUST upgrade your video card.
    If this isn't acceptable to some then, don't play the latest games. 



    I would not go that far,  just don't play Vanguard

    http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=104 

    even the reccomended for LoTRO is a P4 2.8, a x850, and a gig of ram. Minimum is far below that


    LOTRO is a pile of ****. Talk about exploiting a license.
  • stylee99stylee99 Member Posts: 116
    Originally posted by Thisgamesux

    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux


     
    You could get a new video card, but it won't change the fact that the game sucks.



    Report to WoW immediately. Thank you!


    Ahh didn't take long for someone to pull the WoW card!  Sorry, don't play WoW either, even though it is much better than Vanguard will ever hope to be.  I prefer quality games. 

     

    lol. So you've never played WoW, and you've barely played Vanguard at all - yet WoW is WAY better than Vanguard. Your credibility= ZERO

  • CrueakCrueak Member Posts: 23
    Originally posted by ajax7


    I have a Core 2 PC, 2gig of ram and a ATI 1600xp Pro 512mb graphics card,
    This game is no where near as good as SWG was or even close to EQ2.
    The Graphics look horriable am I doing something wrong? I'm on Balanced the game lags and the graphics are such a let down.
    maybe my settings are bad please respond if you had this problem also.
    Thanks Ajax

     

     

    your biggest issue is your video car, 1600's are mid range type cards.  so more than likely the most you will get out of it is balanced settings. 

  • SharkypalSharkypal Member Posts: 1,137
    Originally posted by stylee99

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux

    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux


     
    You could get a new video card, but it won't change the fact that the game sucks.



    Report to WoW immediately. Thank you!


    Ahh didn't take long for someone to pull the WoW card!  Sorry, don't play WoW either, even though it is much better than Vanguard will ever hope to be.  I prefer quality games. 

     

    lol. So you've never played WoW, and you've barely played Vanguard at all - yet WoW is WAY better than Vanguard. Your credibility= ZERO

     

    Yah, some people think that more subs = a better game  More subs actually = Lowest common denominator. I'll give WoW that credit! It was designed to appeal to n00bs and it does!

  • crusher143crusher143 Member UncommonPosts: 198
    I dont care for bugs at least if a MMO is new, its normal... the only reason i didnt continue playing was the bad graphics even at highest settings, its not the polygon count and stuff like this, graphic art is just bad same like it was in EQ2, to much grey, brown everywhere ah dunno the whole picture just doesnt fit together somehow, looks very weird.



    Good graphics for me is something like Gothic3, Guild Wars, WoW is also fine could have some more polygons and higher textrures tough but the art is very good.



    I really cant point my finger on it why Vanguard & EQ2 looks so horribly bad, it just looks like crap even with high polygon count, high textures etc etc ...



    But to be fair overall I cant say anything about Vanguard, it might be a good game but I just care to much about graphics.
  • ThisgamesuxThisgamesux Member Posts: 90
    Originally posted by stylee99

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux

    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux


     
    You could get a new video card, but it won't change the fact that the game sucks.



    Report to WoW immediately. Thank you!


    Ahh didn't take long for someone to pull the WoW card!  Sorry, don't play WoW either, even though it is much better than Vanguard will ever hope to be.  I prefer quality games. 

     

    lol. So you've never played WoW, and you've barely played Vanguard at all - yet WoW is WAY better than Vanguard. Your credibility= ZERO


    Your reading skills=2nd grade level.  I never said I never played WoW.  I have played it and enjoyed it.  I also beta tested Vanguard:SOH for several months.  I was actually a Vanboi like yourself, having attended both Fanguards.  Vanguard game just sucks and I am disappointed that I got caught up in pre-game hype for a game that fails to deliver.
  • ThisgamesuxThisgamesux Member Posts: 90
    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by stylee99

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux

    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux


     
    You could get a new video card, but it won't change the fact that the game sucks.



    Report to WoW immediately. Thank you!


    Ahh didn't take long for someone to pull the WoW card!  Sorry, don't play WoW either, even though it is much better than Vanguard will ever hope to be.  I prefer quality games. 

     

    lol. So you've never played WoW, and you've barely played Vanguard at all - yet WoW is WAY better than Vanguard. Your credibility= ZERO

     

    Yah, some people think that more subs = a better game  More subs actually = Lowest common denominator. I'll give WoW that credit! It was designed to appeal to n00bs and it does!

    So when EQ was king of the MMO's, did it appeal to the lowest common denominator?  Vanguard is really not any more difficult than WoW, so I guess Vanguard is for noobs too?

  • ThisgamesuxThisgamesux Member Posts: 90
    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by psykowhirl




    Unfortunately as the games progress, there will always be a time when you MUST upgrade your video card.
    If this isn't acceptable to some then, don't play the latest games. 



    I would not go that far,  just don't play Vanguard

    http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=104 

    even the reccomended for LoTRO is a P4 2.8, a x850, and a gig of ram. Minimum is far below that


    LOTRO is a pile of ****. Talk about exploiting a license.

     

    Reported for NDA violations. 

  • KaptainZergKaptainZerg Member Posts: 322


    Originally posted by Shinuz
    Originally posted by Thisgamesux
    You could get a new video card, but it won't change the fact that the game sucks.
    go away we don't need you here

    I know I'm most needed where I'm most hated. Apparently, so does Thisgamesux. lol

    With a heavy heart and a twinkle in my eye---actually, just a twinkle in my eye---I must tell all of you Vanguard fans a secret. If I loved you my next statements would be called hard love. But, I don't even know you so this is just going to be hard.

    When what's-his-name McQuaid, the "visionary" developer of Vanguard announced that the game should not have been released for another year because it wasn't finished, but it was being released any way as his company had run out of funding, your radar screen should have lit up. At that point (if not long before because the clues being dropped in interviews and in the Vanguard forum were large as billboards) you should have known that Vanguard would suck massively, and would be following the World of Warcraft income model to the letter!

    WTF is the WoW model, you freakin' troll??

    Simply explained, the WoW model goes like this: sucker a large group of adherents to expect something amazing during the development process. Get them cheering so loudly that anything negative about the game can't possibly be heard. Then, once you have the game runnning so it doesn't crash every two minutes, go gold, and spend the next year finishing the game while your sucker fan base plays it and pays for playing what is essentially an alpha with a new coat of paint on it.

    What's-his-name McQuaid improved on the WoW model when he made his public statement about the game needing another year to be completed but because there was no more funding it had to be released as is. Many Vanguard fans banged their keyboards upon reading that and shouted "my god, he's honest!" Unfortunately, the opposite is true. Releasing the game early was the plan from the beginning. Crying and lamenting the move was just BS, grease on the floor to make sliding this pos game into the hands of the fan base more easy.

    This can only happen in MMORPG development. In other businesses you cannot claim that a product is ready and then get people to buy it even though it doesn't work so you can start making money while you finish developing it. You cannot get investors in other businesses, with such a dishonest plan. Amazing!

  • FikusOfAhaziFikusOfAhazi Member Posts: 1,835
    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by psykowhirl




    Unfortunately as the games progress, there will always be a time when you MUST upgrade your video card.
    If this isn't acceptable to some then, don't play the latest games. 



    I would not go that far,  just don't play Vanguard

    http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=104 

    even the reccomended for LoTRO is a P4 2.8, a x850, and a gig of ram. Minimum is far below that


    LOTRO is a pile of ****. Talk about exploiting a license.

    Its not a pile of shit at all. It's not the type of game i prefer or how I would have personally wanted my virtual experience in Middle Earth to be like. But its fun in the same way WOW is fun to people, and more polished now than alot of 3 year old games For veterans of MMO's it sux..but theres alot of new people it could draw in.

    See you in the dream..
    The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.

  • ThisgamesuxThisgamesux Member Posts: 90
    Originally posted by KaptainZerg


     

    Originally posted by Shinuz


    Originally posted by Thisgamesux
     


    You could get a new video card, but it won't change the fact that the game sucks.



    go away we don't need you here

     

    I know I'm most needed where I'm most hated. Apparently, so does Thisgamesux. lol

    With a heavy heart and a twinkle in my eye---actually, just a twinkle in my eye---I must tell all of you Vanguard fans a secret. If I loved you my next statements would be called hard love. But, I don't even know you so this is just going to be hard.

    When what's-his-name McQuaid, the "visionary" developer of Vanguard announced that the game should not have been released for another year because it wasn't finished, but it was being released any way as his company had run out of funding, your radar screen should have lit up. At that point (if not long before because the clues being dropped in interviews and in the Vanguard forum were large as billboards) you should have known that Vanguard would suck massively, and would be following the World of Warcraft income model to the letter!

    WTF is the WoW model, you freakin' troll??

    Simply explained, the WoW model goes like this: sucker a large group of adherents to expect something amazing during the development process. Get them cheering so loudly that anything negative about the game can't possibly be heard. Then, once you have the game runnning so it doesn't crash every two minutes, go gold, and spend the next year finishing the game while your sucker fan base plays it and pays for playing what is essentially an alpha with a new coat of paint on it.

    What's-his-name McQuaid improved on the WoW model when he made his public statement about the game needing another year to be completed but because there was no more funding it had to be released as is. Many Vanguard fans banged their keyboards upon reading that and shouted "my god, he's honest!" Unfortunately, the opposite is true. Releasing the game early was the plan from the beginning. Crying and lamenting the move was just BS, grease on the floor to make sliding this pos game into the hands of the fan base more easy.

    This can only happen in MMORPG development. In other businesses you cannot claim that a product is ready and then get people to buy it even though it doesn't work so you can start making money while you finish developing it. You cannot get investors in other businesses, with such a dishonest plan. Amazing!


    Carefull, I posted similar things with different user names and got banned.  For the record, this the longest I've kept an account on MMORPG.com!!!  I guess I offend to many of the people that pay for ads on this site!  The truth does hurt. 
  • EthanaelEthanael Member UncommonPosts: 194
    Originally posted by Thisgamesux

     The truth does hurt. 
    Well, considering how many anti-soe people come on these boards to just flame away at things, it's hard to know what is the truth unless you actually know someone. I have physically read many misconceptions written on these boards which isn't right at all. For your satisfaction of spreading nasty crap around, Sigil hurts from it. They don't deserve it.



    Regards,
  • JostersJosters Member Posts: 73
    its surprising how people judge the game because they can't play it :P
  • roadwarriorsroadwarriors Member Posts: 218
    Originally posted by Josters

    its surprising how people judge the game because they can't play it :P

    Dude, this guy is trying to play and is asking for your help and your flamming him?!?!?!

    This is why vangaurd suxxx, cause you play it, and scare away all the players.

    You think it's surprising how people judge the game because they can't play it huh?

    Well I think your wrong

    and I also think that it's ironic Brad is going to be in the un-employment line soon because of his own fans.

  • SharkypalSharkypal Member Posts: 1,137
    Originally posted by Thisgamesux

    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by psykowhirl




    Unfortunately as the games progress, there will always be a time when you MUST upgrade your video card.
    If this isn't acceptable to some then, don't play the latest games. 



    I would not go that far,  just don't play Vanguard

    http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=104 

    even the reccomended for LoTRO is a P4 2.8, a x850, and a gig of ram. Minimum is far below that


    LOTRO is a pile of ****. Talk about exploiting a license.

     

    Reported for NDA violations. 



    I almost fell out of my chair laughing at you! Seriously, go back to WoW you troll. (Still laughing at you BTW)

     

  • roadwarriorsroadwarriors Member Posts: 218
    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux

    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by psykowhirl




    Unfortunately as the games progress, there will always be a time when you MUST upgrade your video card.
    Now this is an ingnorant statement. This is the equivalent to comming to the conclusion that all black people are pick pockets because their black. Nothing ever must. We could instead concentrate on advancing the gameplay and let hte enginerds rest a bit.
    Seriously the only reason that graphics cards get better is because their profitable, not because there is a dammand for them, since this is a luxury item, but for other reasons.
    If this isn't acceptable to some then, don't play the latest games. 



    I would not go that far,  just don't play Vanguard

    http://www.lotro.com/index.php?page_id=104 

    even the reccomended for LoTRO is a P4 2.8, a x850, and a gig of ram. Minimum is far below that


    LOTRO is a pile of ****. Talk about exploiting a license.

     

    Reported for NDA violations. 



    I almost fell out of my chair laughing at you! Seriously, go back to WoW you troll. (Still laughing at you BTW)

     

  • JostersJosters Member Posts: 73
    Originally posted by roadwarriors

    Originally posted by Josters

    its surprising how people judge the game because they can't play it :P

    Dude, this guy is trying to play and is asking for your help and your flamming him?!?!?!

    This is why vangaurd suxxx, cause you play it, and scare away all the players.

    You think it's surprising how people judge the game because they can't play it huh?

    Well I think your wrong

    and I also think that it's ironic Brad is going to be in the un-employment line soon because of his own fans.



    what-the-hell

    ????

    i'm not flamming him, just saying how some people say THIS GAME SUCKS, when they actually aren't talking about the game but technical stuff before even PLAYING IT....thats all.

    seriously WTH....i was surprised I received that reply haha

  • StoneysilencStoneysilenc Member Posts: 369
    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux


    -1 for not understanding simple sentence structure.  Your attempt to extrapolate "the game" as a hunt for video cards was hardly witty and really doesn't make an ounce of sense.  Have fun paying to beta a MMO Flop.
    We will mate, and we're happy you won't be around. Good riddance!

    That's what they told me when I left AC2.  Guess what those fanboi's are playing now because it isn't AC2.

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  • mx500toridmx500torid Member Posts: 96
    Who cares what you think about Vanguard go play a game that appeals to you and your 4 year old buddies. WOW sounds good go there. Let the more mature people that actually like a game for what it delivers instead of a game that lets any noob get 60 in three weeks. And yes I played WOW for about a month gnashing my teeth the last week before i quit. I have died more in Vanguard in the last three days than I ever died in WOW, and had a blast. Three cheers Sigil. How soon people forget that WOW, EQ2,GW.and DD all sucked when first came out but 2 of them got better, eq2 and WOW. This game is gonna rule even more than it does now. All good things are worth the wait and if you dont wanna wait, go somewhere else. /Wave, Bye
  • StoneysilencStoneysilenc Member Posts: 369
    Originally posted by mx500torid

    Who cares what you think about Vanguard go play a game that appeals to you and your 4 year old buddies. WOW sounds good go there. Let the more mature people that actually like a game for what it delivers instead of a game that lets any noob get 60 in three weeks. And yes I played WOW for about a month gnashing my teeth the last week before i quit. I have died more in Vanguard in the last three days than I ever died in WOW, and had a blast. Three cheers Sigil. How soon people forget that WOW, EQ2,GW.and DD all sucked when first came out but 2 of them got better, eq2 and WOW. This game is gonna rule even more than it does now. All good things are worth the wait and if you dont wanna wait, go somewhere else. /Wave, Bye
    Your saying we are immature and you post what you did?  Pot meet Kettle.

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  • SWGforrevaSWGforreva Member Posts: 194
    Originally posted by MX13


    You should be able to play on Balanced, but it depends on so many factors in your machine. Defrag your HD, and tweak with the recommendations stickied on the these Forums. Start with High Performance and work your way up.
    As far as the game, coming from a Pre-CU Jedi, SWG Beta Player & someone who Mastered every Profession (most twice) the game gets MUCH better as you advance. Crafting, Diplomacy & Combat become more complicated then anything Pre-CU offered. I will add I still HATE Combat Levels, but oh well.... take what you can get when it's fun...
    I'am too a swg pre cu player and your talking blasphemy right there u traitor..comeon how can u compare the complexity, i hope thats a joke
  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by Thisgamesux

    Originally posted by KaptainZerg


     

    Originally posted by Shinuz


    Originally posted by Thisgamesux
     


    You could get a new video card, but it won't change the fact that the game sucks.



    go away we don't need you here

     

    I know I'm most needed where I'm most hated. Apparently, so does Thisgamesux. lol

    With a heavy heart and a twinkle in my eye---actually, just a twinkle in my eye---I must tell all of you Vanguard fans a secret. If I loved you my next statements would be called hard love. But, I don't even know you so this is just going to be hard.

    When what's-his-name McQuaid, the "visionary" developer of Vanguard announced that the game should not have been released for another year because it wasn't finished, but it was being released any way as his company had run out of funding, your radar screen should have lit up. At that point (if not long before because the clues being dropped in interviews and in the Vanguard forum were large as billboards) you should have known that Vanguard would suck massively, and would be following the World of Warcraft income model to the letter!

    The first time I heard about Brad's vision i though, "Meh, another guy from EQ1 with big words". I changed my mind only after playing in beta. The sheer amount of things that VSoH promised to deliver, minus the amount it didnt deliver equals the amount of things VSoH has right now. That amount is much more then pretty much any other MMORPG out there. Right now most games follow one path, leveling with occasional decent crafting to supplement leveling. VSoH added a third sphere - diplomacy. Its not to a full potential as yet, but even what it is right now - its fun. I dont know how long I can play VSoH if I would ONLY do diplomacy, maybe a week, maybe two, I dont know. The fun part is when u actualy do get bored with combat, you can switch to harvesting, when you do get bored with harvesting, you can switch to crafting, when you do get bored with crafting, you can switch to diplomacy. Each sphere is a stand alone one, meaning its not a 5 minute job, nor is it mindless click-wait-click. If you dont pay attention to any single sphere, you will fail. You wont win diplomacy if u dont use your wit and play smart. You wont create an item if you keep geting complications and you go too far with quality without leaving points to finish the product. None of these spheres feel subpar to ther other spheres.



    You dont realy need a great combat or lots of content to make a good game. if your options are limited, you will eventualy get bored. What VSoH brought to the MMORPG market is options. The more options you get, the better that game is becuase you will never be bored with it, as long as you dont concentrate on one sphere.
     



    WTF is the WoW model, you freakin' troll??
    Simply explained, the WoW model goes like this: sucker a large group of adherents to expect something amazing during the development process. Get them cheering so loudly that anything negative about the game can't possibly be heard. Then, once you have the game runnning so it doesn't crash every two minutes, go gold, and spend the next year finishing the game while your sucker fan base plays it and pays for playing what is essentially an alpha with a new coat of paint on it.
    Are you saying that 2 years into WoW release people are still blinded by all the "amazing promises" from the devs? People arent stupid, especialy when they are paying money for their entertainment. If someone is not entertained, they will NOT pay money.

    What's-his-name McQuaid improved on the WoW model when he made his public statement about the game needing another year to be completed but because there was no more funding it had to be released as is. Many Vanguard fans banged their keyboards upon reading that and shouted "my god, he's honest!" Unfortunately, the opposite is true. Releasing the game early was the plan from the beginning. Crying and lamenting the move was just BS, grease on the floor to make sliding this pos game into the hands of the fan base more easy.
    This can only happen in MMORPG development. In other businesses you cannot claim that a product is ready and then get people to buy it even though it doesn't work so you can start making money while you finish developing it. You cannot get investors in other businesses, with such a dishonest plan. Amazing!
    Dunno about releasing one year sooner, got a link to that? but I dont realy care what the final product was in Brads mind, I only care what I play now. Right now, at level 10, the product is about 80-85% finished. There are lots of bugs, mostly cosmetic, a few bugs did influence my gameplay but not enough to stop playing it or annoy me. If someone promised me a car with rocket engines to fly to the moon, but instead gave me a car that just flyes... heck, id still be happy.


    Carefull, I posted similar things with different user names and got banned.  For the record, this the longest I've kept an account on MMORPG.com!!!  I guess I offend to many of the people that pay for ads on this site!  The truth does hurt.  Its not what you say, its how you say it. Theres nothing wrong with constructive criticism (thats what forums are all about). Theres everything wrong about 1-line flames like "This game sux". If you want to communicate to a community, you have to speak comprehensively and not in cryptic sentences.

    I am the type of player where I like to do everything and anything from time to time.
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  • weg886weg886 Member Posts: 318

     

     

    Originally posted by Sharkypal

    Originally posted by Thisgamesux


     
    You could get a new video card, but it won't change the fact that the game sucks.



    Report to WoW immediately. Thank you!  wow that game stinks!

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