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Pterosaur
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in Everquest II
I maxed out my Templar at 50 about 6 months after the initial release. After spending a few months doing nothing but harvesting and selling I threw up my hands and canceled my account out of boredom back in the fall of 2005.
I've been thinking of coming back to EQ2 for a few weeks now. I haven't seen any of the expansions, so I don't know if the content has expanded to a point where it would be entertaining. I was wondering if anyone that's been around since the beginning has a comment about how the game has changed since that first year, and whether someone that played it then and found it a bit too limited might enjoy it now as it has developed.
I was also looking at Vanguard, I'm not sure about that one - I haven't been in the beta though, so I pretty much have no idea what its like.
I reinstalled EQ2 on my machine, but I'm just having trouble pulling the trigger on reopening my account and playing it again, especially since I'm going to have to go buy 3 expansions to get caught up on content.
I've been thinking of coming back to EQ2 for a few weeks now. I haven't seen any of the expansions, so I don't know if the content has expanded to a point where it would be entertaining. I was wondering if anyone that's been around since the beginning has a comment about how the game has changed since that first year, and whether someone that played it then and found it a bit too limited might enjoy it now as it has developed.
I was also looking at Vanguard, I'm not sure about that one - I haven't been in the beta though, so I pretty much have no idea what its like.
I reinstalled EQ2 on my machine, but I'm just having trouble pulling the trigger on reopening my account and playing it again, especially since I'm going to have to go buy 3 expansions to get caught up on content.
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Well, all i can say it has changed very much in all areas of the game. And it varies from player to player if you like the changes or not..
As it stands there is currently a very good deal if you buy the latest "boxed" edition of EoF, it wil come with all the previous expansions included+ the original game at a very reasonable cost..
Try it, it's basically the best MMORPG on the market today(Yes it's better than WoW). I dont even think im very biased in this, EQ2 has gone along way to please a very wide range of players and playstyles both from the casual to the hardcore...
As for Vanguard, well Its a new game, I recomend you wait atleast 6 months to a year before jumping into this, EQ2 is so much better than Vanguard in it's current state, but that isnt said that VG has qualities that will be looked upon as better in the future...It has some very interessting features already, but it's a far from ready game.
/Thark
I about half think my character is gone, deleted in SoE server consolidation or something. I think my old server was Crushbone - if he's still there I have no idea what server he might be on now.
Its hard for me to remember exactly what had me so disappointed in the game. I had to stop my Sage at 20 because at that time you couldn't get the sup[plies to level one from the alchemists and whatnot. Plus the guild situation was fairly screwy, with smaller guilds being pretty much locked out of higher end content, and the bigger guilds being fairly exclusive and cliquish.
Anyway, I may stop by CompUSA and pick up FAE and give it a go later.
If you've been gone that long you'll have free time on your account! Hooray!
Just log into the game!
Pretty simple, and an honest opinion of someone who was finally driven away by the dumbing down of what was once a passable game.
Bite me, Turbine.
The game is far better in my opinion than what it was in the first 6 months. Theres been a multitude of changes for the better that are too numerous to list.
Your 50 Templar will still be there, you can always go to EQ2 players site and do a search for him to confirm if you want.
If you get the EoF expansion (retail) then you will get the lot. There will be plenty of content and challenge there to keep you entertained for some time.
you have no clue what you talking about .... totally not true
I agree with Micona what brostyn says is simply not true. There are players everywhere. I can be in the most remote area at 3am and still find players. EQ2 is full of content with the addition of EoF you have a couple years to explore all the content if you take your time READ and do not just power level. I left EQ2 for about 1 year to play WoW. Had fun but got really bored with WoW once lvl 60 was reached. I planned on returning to WoW with Burning Crusades but I deleted Wow from my pc, since I am having so much fun in EQ2.
I thought I would give EQ2 another try, I was glad I did. When I logged in my toons were still there and SOE gave me all the veteran rewards as if I had been playing the whole time. My house and all its stuff was there which really impressed me. I needed to relearn a lot so I started a new toon. The game play and crafting changed a lot and for the better. With all the added new content I was amazed at how big Norrath had become. It seems like everyday I still find something new. I am no fan of SOE I was a pre-nge SWG player that got screwed I am also not a EQ2 fanboi. I have played mmorpgs for almost 10 years now and tried most of them. EQ2 is one of the best deepest mmos out at the moment. So many who post and review here say the craziest things about EQ2 as if they never even played it. I say come back you will enjoy EQ2.
I have to disagree with the above poster. He doesn't seem to really know much about the game. The fact that EQ2 did away with corpse runs doesn't make them game shallow. EQ2 has a lot of depth and a fun game to play. He is right in one thing, the game is like WoW in that it is much more fun, specially since release.
The community in EQ2 seems to be more mature and organized than WoW but that's just my personal experiences. WoW just has so many more people I guess you just got to expect the turds to ruin it most of the time.
I play WoW and EQ2 both myself and enjoy both a lot.
Now, if you like that old school tedium... err challenge you could try Vanguard. It's EQ1 with a new graphics engine. Yeah they got player boats and fancy mounts too but they also have corpse runs and long ass travel times... oh and no instances, yea for contested mobs with all those big guilds you "loved".
Anyway, best of luck!
http://www.greycouncil.org/
I went ahead and bought the EoF box yesterday, that gave me the original game and all three expansions for only $40.
Turned out all my characters and items were still there, all the money, all the armor, etc. And they didn't even ask for a credit card, I was able to log right in, I'm not sure how long I have though.
That's not bad if you think about it. They saved my characters and items for almost 2 years when I wasn't even subscribed. I'm no SOE fanboi so I have to give them their due for that.
I have to disagree with the above poster. He doesn't seem to really know much about the game. The fact that EQ2 did away with corpse runs doesn't make them game shallow. EQ2 has a lot of depth and a fun game to play. He is right in one thing, the game is like WoW in that it is much more fun, specially since release.
The community in EQ2 seems to be more mature and organized than WoW but that's just my personal experiences. WoW just has so many more people I guess you just got to expect the turds to ruin it most of the time.
I play WoW and EQ2 both myself and enjoy both a lot.
Now, if you like that old school tedium... err challenge you could try Vanguard. It's EQ1 with a new graphics engine. Yeah they got player boats and fancy mounts too but they also have corpse runs and long ass travel times... oh and no instances, yea for contested mobs with all those big guilds you "loved".
Anyway, best of luck!
If you see depth in EQ2, Pong must have been a really thinking gameAgain, say you have fun- that's fine, of course. Everyone enjoys something different. But I wish people would stop trying to mislead others into thinking there's any depth at all, any variety, or a good community. There just isn't any of that. If there was, more people would be playing, and 90% of the original playerbase would still be around, instead of playing 6-8 months and quitting out of sheer boredom.
Bite me, Turbine.
[quote]Originally posted by Gules_Aspen If you see depth in EQ2, Pong must have been a really thinking game
The entire game from level 1 to the end game is the exact same grind in instanced zones Do you even know what an instanced zone is? with the exact same abilities (given a little bit more power and a new name).
Faction is essentially meaningless, That depends on the person playing the religion system is useless,
and every quest is a carefully hidden 'fetch this'.
I know plenty about EQ2- I was one of the first players on release. My guild and many of my friends were there, so I stuck it out, even though it's gotten worse and worse with every expansion, more and more mindless and repetitive. EOF and all the stupidity it introduced finally broke the camel's back. Yet it outsold any perevious EQ2 expansion within days of it's release... Say you have fun if you want, but there is no way anyone can call EQ2 challenging, deep, or anything but a grind to get to raiding level.
There is no even half tolerable RP, the storyline between EQ1 and EQ2 is idiotic,
and it's become an 'easy mode' inane button smacking fest
just like WoW. Again, say you have fun- that's fine, of course. Everyone enjoys something different. But I wish people would stop trying to mislead others into thinking there's any depth at all, any variety, or a good community.
You are certainly entitled to your own opinion but calling your own opinion fact and insinuating that other people are lying because they have different opinion isn’t how you approach discussing those opinions.
There just isn't any of that. If there was, more people would be playing, and 90% of the original playerbase would still be around, instead of playing 6-8 months and quitting out of sheer boredom.[/quote]
Sooo, just like your trying to mislead people into thinking EQ2 doesnt have these qualities????
Sounds to me like your one of these players who doesnt stop to smell the roses, you have to rush the levels thinking you would be super cool, hence you miss all the content. If you say there's no depth, its because you didnt bother to find it.
I didn't get much farther into reading your post than this. Please use some new lines now and then.
Anyway, 1-70 is not all instances. In fact you will only see instances if you run the few instances solo/small group zones or Splitpaw. I leveled up 4 characters to 70 in my stints in EQ2. Templar, Defiler, Fury and chanter. All of which spent so little time in instances I can't even measure it. Most of my time was spent working on the hundreds to thousands of quests (solo/small group to raid sized) and just adventuring with friends in dungeons.
The only time you'll see a LOT of instances is at end game for raids and that's a good thing. Each guild can do it's own thing and not have to compete with other guilds for content. Everyone can play through it.
The religion system is far from useless as well. Each "god" grants additional abilities (pets for one) and items (cloaks) and really amazing spells.
As to the quest system, it's just as good as any other game that I've played from EQ1, DAoC, AO, SWG and WoW. If you don't like quests in EQ2 you don't like them anywhere else either.
You're welcome to your opinion about EQ2 but as you can see what you just said can easily be discounted as ignorance.
http://www.greycouncil.org/
I've been reading these posts for a couple days now. I'll be honest. The only thing that bothers me is the zoning in towns. Otherwise this game is pretty damn good. I'm not playing at the moment. But Im starting to consider to play an MMO again and it'll be this one over any of the other ones out there right now.
1. This is not wow jr. It's a lot more complex than wow. It used to be infinitly more complex but people started crying so they dumbed it down a bit. This game is far from WoW. Probably why I like it. Don't get me wrong. I have no problem with wow.
2. The PVP servers on EQ2 are FUN. Especially if you're in your 20-30's. The pvp servers on EQ2 give you a reason not to rush when leveling. I like that. I also like the % coin drop and the chance of droping a craptastic treasured item. Adds to it for me.
3. The people in this game are infact nice and helpful for the most part. It's really not hard to make friends and no matter what class you play It's pretty easy to find a group.
4. The people behind the scenes in this game have made great strides in listening to the comunity and do act accordingly. This in my book is huge. Although Im not a very vocal person in open forum.
I think it's a solid game. Especially on the pvp servers. I'm not a fanboy by any stretch, but I do believe this game deserves it's respect. It's come major strides from release.
Don't be terrorized! You're more likely to die of a car accident, drowning, fire, or murder! More people die every year from prescription drugs than terrorism LOL!
Unfortunately not
As for the comments about EQ2 being a grind. With any game, it is if you make it that way. I went from 1-70 with my main character and only got into a group that was just grinding, and not questing or raiding, twice. You people sound like the people I meet in game that have no patience to explore and do quests and usually punch through quest dialogs. If you went through the whole game just exp grinding, then there is no one else you can blame but yourself for that. That is if you really played it at all. Like the newbie I was helping with quests last night for over an hour. He got mad at me when I had to log, saying I should stay and help him more. Some people just want everything handed to them. There is no such thing as a perfect game.
The dieties really do add to the game. The abilities, especially the later ones make a difference.
The OP mentioned something about crafting. It has changed significantly. But since your in game now, you can just go check it out.
In fact you can just download only the patcher from the SOE site and not install any of the game. It will then check to see what files are missing and download them all. It will take a while to download the full game with all expansions (probably 3-6 hours on high speed), but that is actually one of the easiest ways to do it.
You obviously know almost nothing at all about the current state of the game. And the "barely anyone playing" comment is just rediculous - in fact there are more now than I have ever seen - and that is 3 days after Vanguard released (which was supposed to kill EQ2). I am seeing tons of people coming over from WOW lately also.
Time after time I see these kind of comments from people that might have played it 2 years ago, and fail to realize that the game has had many improvements and is NOT what it was at release.
And before I am accused of being a fangurl, I also quit in the early days - played from release for about 4 months, and the game at that time was kind of sucky with a lot of problems. I came back to it about 3 months ago, and it is now a far different game than what I left - and much better.
I left at around Christmas, so a month ago. The game has gotten worse and worse as time goes on- they've made it easier, dumbed down, and more frilly and ridiculous with every patch. EOF was really the last straw, with the stupid "OMG the gods are back" storyline and WoW clone graphics in the new zones. Not to mention it seemed to attract a whole new breed of retard away from WoW, even on the supposed 'RP' servers.
Enjoy it if you do. I don't care. Some people like McDonalds and will actually argue that it's good. I'll stand by my opinion, that EQ2 is dull, uninspired, stone stupid simple, and full of morons. You have a good time, though.
Bite me, Turbine.