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Please stop saying Warhammer ripped off Warcraft.

bonafideebonafidee Member Posts: 81
in Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning
    OMG its got a hotbar WOW-RIPOFF . OMG its got scrolling combat text WOW-RIPOFF. OMG its got quests WOW-RIPOFF. OMG its got "cartoony" graphics. OMG its got weapons WOW-RIPOFF!!!

    Incase you couldnt tell, I am being sarcastic. MMORPG's were around for about 8 years before world of warcraft and will be around long after it dies.

    I hate MMORPG virgins that pop their cherry on warcraft and think its gods gift to gamers. WoW basically just ripped off the best bits of previous MMORPG's and made them noob friendly. Warhammer online is the next step in evolution.

    It happens with every genre of games. Can you really call Half-life 2 a rip off of the Doom franchise because they both use first person with guns? No, of course not, that would be rediculous. That is exactly what you are doing when you say Warhammer is ripping off Warcraft.

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  • outthislifeoutthislife Member Posts: 115
    All WoW did was take ideas from WAR and other games in the same category and polish it.



    That's all it takes to make 8 million people retarded.
  • Andr92Andr92 Member Posts: 43

    Grr, yesterday when i left my guild on WoW and stopped play wow for WAR half the guild start complain on WAR. they have not an idea on what WAR is. WAR is a ground on WoW. And whatta about the orcs.. All those who played WoW for a long while says "their orcs" is the right.. FFS THEY LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE THAT TYPE OF GUY THAT GOES ON TEA PARTY ON SATURDAYS! I like Orcs in WAR, that was the biggest thing getting my attention to this game, they are brutish, cool, red eyes and soo blood thirsty that they will rip out their friends heart any second with a face like this --->  

     

    second thing that this not gonna be like WoW is RvR part. i dont know what RvR is really ^^ but i think its like taking teritorrys and that thing.. if so WoW sucked on that.. had like some small towers to take and hold in Eastern plauge land.

  • callmetobycallmetoby Member Posts: 302
    Or even better, please stop starting these damn redundant threads on this subject. It's getting just as obnoxious, if not moreso, than the trolls themselves.

  • GrunancaGrunanca Member Posts: 29
    Well, Games Workshop will be 31 years old this year. The Warhammer world which is made by Games Workshop is 26 Years old. Im sorry all you WoW fans out there... Orcs has been existing in Warhammer for more than 22 years now, same has the background story, so the conclusion must be you got no freaking idea what you are talking about!
  • OgrelinOgrelin Member Posts: 636
    Originally posted by Andr92


    Grr, yesterday when i left my guild on WoW and stopped play wow for WAR half the guild start complain on WAR. they have not an idea on what WAR is. WAR is a ground on WoW. And whatta about the orcs.. All those who played WoW for a long while says "their orcs" is the right.. FFS THEY LOOKS LIKE THEY ARE THAT TYPE OF GUY THAT GOES ON TEA PARTY ON SATURDAYS! I like Orcs in WAR, that was the biggest thing getting my attention to this game, they are brutish, cool, red eyes and soo blood thirsty that they will rip out their friends heart any second with a face like this --->  
     
    second thing that this not gonna be like WoW is RvR part. i dont know what RvR is really ^^ but i think its like taking teritorrys and that thing.. if so WoW sucked on that.. had like some small towers to take and hold in Eastern plauge land.
    Want to take a look at RvR? Download the DAoC-Trial and head out in the fronteir :)
  • KullvakKullvak Member Posts: 5
    Orc's were first made popular by Tolken in 1937 when he published The Hobbit.  Before that they were simply parts of old european legends.  The one that Tolkin actually took the word from was Beowulf.



    So quit argueing about if Warcraft or Warhammer is correct.  Because nether of them match Tolkin's Orcs.  They are all differnent creatures for the respective worlds they belong in.



    I play Wow, and plan on playing War as well.  bonafidee is correct in saying they are simply improving on ideas used since MMORPG's came out.
  • AdythielAdythiel Member Posts: 726
    Here is what you say to anyone that says WAR is ripping off WoW. The Warhammer Fantasy Table top game is almost 25 years old. That means the first release was WAY back in 1982. When was the very first Warcraft game released? Is that 1994 you say? That's 12 years of development for Games Workshop on Warhammer Fantasy. Warcraft actually has pulled a great deal of it's information from the Warhammer Universe. It's actually pretty easy to see if you read up on some of the lore from Warhammer Fantasy.



    I'm not saying that Warhammer Fantasy is 100% Original Either. Tolkein's Lord of the Rings was published way back in 1954.

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  • MrFleaMrFlea Member Posts: 8
    Originally posted by Adythiel

    The Warhammer Fantasy Table top game is almost 25 years old. That means the first release was WAY back in 1982.
    OMG...i bought that! I feel rather old all of a sudden [hastens to add that i've not been playing it ever since, it was all the rage whe i was a kid - funny how you return to things though - bloody hell i'm turing into one of those guys seeking a second childhood]...
  • sjonasjona Member Posts: 194

    i know the other posts about "war is not ripping off wow" are proximitly 1 hour old, but could you please stop making these "useful" threads.

    and if not, then try to make them in WoW forums - thats where the people judging, are.

  • DeadrunnerDeadrunner Member Posts: 8
    If i remenber corrctly War maybe the same thing that Wow makers do they played the best Mmorpg and take off the bad things and taked the good things and improved them that is not ripp off is evolution
  • KnivesOnlyKnivesOnly Member Posts: 401
    warhammer ripped off wow

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  • devicesdevices Member Posts: 7
    Hahaha WoW popped my MMORPG cherry ;)



    BUT each game is it's own entity and it has to be viewed as such.  Warhammer has been around since the early 80s if I can recall correctly.  I don't remember Warcraft coming into the picture until the early 90s.  I could be wrong about that, but I don't think I am.



    I agree with the posts that say the fantasy-esque genre has been around for decades (Tolkien), therefore, most fantasy stories follow the same patterns with different, slight variations. 



    As far as Warhammer following the same type of gameplay as WoW, I say GOOD!  I know that system :)  If not, then GOOD!  I can learn something new!  I'm really psyched for Warhammer... it's a new story to me, and a different community.  Hopefully WAR vs. WoW will be like PC vs. MAC, devotees to one will never touch the other-- honestly I don't think I can take WoW devotees infecting the WAR universe.  LOL.
  • azeldakillahazeldakillah Member Posts: 2
    WAR contains much that WOW doesn´t and v/v
  • Hu1venHu1ven Member Posts: 64
    Originally posted by KnivesOnly

    warhammer ripped off wow
    You need a History Lesson. It's the other way around.
  • NalelNalel Member Posts: 7
    The good ol' timeless question of this.  Let's start out by getting this fact straight: The story, artwork, feel, and world of Warcraft is a complete ripoff of the Warhammer Universe.  As said numerous times before in this thread, Warhammer has been around since the early 80's, while Warcraft came out in the Mid-90's.  I mean for god's sakes there is a Warcraft Novel called "The Sundering" a direct rip off of the whole "Sundering" in Warhammer, where the Dark Elves broke off from the High Elves.  Just to top that off, look at WoW and it's graphics, that's exactly how Warhammer has looked since the beginning in the novels, artwork and novels.  Why did Blizzard make Warcraft?  I'd guess they couldn't get the Licensing rights from GW back in the 90's and decided to carry on anyways under a "different" name. 
  • RobbgobbRobbgobb Member UncommonPosts: 674
    Originally posted by Hu1ven

    Originally posted by KnivesOnly

    warhammer ripped off wow
    You need a History Lesson. It's the other way around.

    I concur.
  • irish97irish97 Member Posts: 85

    Did you see the gameplay videos on Gametrailers, I could barely tell the difference between it a WOW. Apart from the graphics, wich are more or less the same but inferior, the game plays exactly the same. Please one of these days a dev will have an original idea. Hope i'm alive to witness it. WAR may have used this graphic style before but they could have tried to make it better than WOW and not copied it directly. MOTS again and again and again.

  • LycadriusLycadrius Member Posts: 26

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  • KnivesOnlyKnivesOnly Member Posts: 401
    Originally posted by Robbgobb

    Originally posted by Hu1ven

    Originally posted by KnivesOnly

    warhammer ripped off wow
    You need a History Lesson. It's the other way around.

    I concur.

    It was a joke.

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Warcraft has copied many things of Warhammer, but Warhammer Online has copied many things of World of Warcraft.
  • callmetobycallmetoby Member Posts: 302
    Christ, this community is hopeless...

  • jobattjobatt Member Posts: 7

    im sorry to make this my first post but warcraft has been around for 10-15 years or so (im talkting about the single player orcs vs humans) maybe less.

    warhammerer i was playing with the minatures when i was 9-10yo and im probally the oldest guy here so warcraft is a COMPLETE RIPOFF of warhammer.. and yes i play warcraft.. but i know what it is

  • AdythielAdythiel Member Posts: 726
    Here is the deal. World of Warcraft is the very first MMO for millions of people. They don't realize that MMO's go back into the 90s with Ultima Online. Everquest was the first true 3d MMO. MUDs are in their very essence an MMO. If you bring these games to your first time WoWer, they look at you clueless. They don't get the fact WoW isn't a unique game in any way. It's just another MMO based on Blizzard's RTS games. The RTS games are pulled quite heavily from the Warhammer IP. Because these WoWer's don't realize their game isn't the first, they think anything to follow it is ripping from "their game".



    Quite frankly, just from the stuff Mythic has released about WAR, the combat system isn't even close to WoW.

    CC doesn't exist.

    Long duration buffs don't exist.

    Stealth is minimal at best.

    There will be attacks that chain off attacks from members in your group.

    None of that exists in WoW. It has a ton of CC, a lot of long duration buffs and Stealth is a core component of WoW. And chained attacks between party members? Doesn't exist. There are only chained attacks for yourself..i.e....Rogue Combo points.



    Just seeing a video of gameplay footage doesn't give you even a clue of how it plays.  It's just showing you animations and what the game will look like.

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  • WisebutCruelWisebutCruel Member Posts: 1,089
    Originally posted by Gameloading

    Warcraft has copied many things of Warhammer, but Warhammer Online has copied many things of World of Warcraft.
    So, in essence, Warhammer copied itself?
  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    Originally posted by Adythiel

    Here is the deal. World of Warcraft is the very first MMO for millions of people. They don't realize that MMO's go back into the 90s with Ultima Online. Everquest was the first true 3d MMO.

    The most SAD fact there ever was. I know at least 5 WoW players who are completely canned and doesn't care about any other online game. They judge before they even look at them.



    Bring more WoW players to MMORPG.com for crist sake. Everybody!

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