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We WANT a PVP demo or video - Less marketing hype !
DanielleSube
Member Posts: 38
The delay to October 2007 is making many people feel nervous, some are even cynical that this move is not about polishing up the game or tweaking it to make a better product, but in fact a marketing ploy by FUNCOM to go head to head with Warhammer, and not disappoint or peak to early given the rivalry that is in place between the two big MMO releases for 2007.
I am impressed with some of the PVE videos but am tired and fed up of not being able to get a real feel for the game play especially in relation to PVP. I will remain unconvinced about this game until I see decent PVP demo.
If the release date is now confirmed at 31st October 2007, surely FUNCOM can now give us some indication of when Open Beta will be starting? The suspense is killing me ....
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Afraid not, the two versions are being developed and released seperately.
The reason for the delay is no mystery at all to me, there are a number of things that they still need to tweak, and undoubtedly more that we haven't seen that needs doing. Additionally, if they had not pushed the date back, there would have been almost no time for the out of house beta.
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i dont think that WAR is the reason the game is being delayed, i think its more a case of avoiding an AO style release nightmare. delaying to go head to head with WAR is a very bad idea, you are just cutting off your nose to spite your face.
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I expect Funcom/AoC to mail me some Bacon & Egg's for breakfast every morning. Preferably fresh and not the green fuzzy kind that tends to come thru the mail.
Heh... and I bet you thought it was safe over here Sturm... (evil laugh)
A clean launch is the best, keeps everyone happy, more fresh air till october.
Exactly but at this point there is really no hope for AOC if you ask me. They only hope they did have was trying to release this game 4 months prior to WAR or a year after. Since they will be doing neither I think this title will hardly get the numbers it needs to be a major players.
I was all over this game but WAR and the way they are handling things and that new video detailing PVP (How it will work and the actually gameplay) has made me a Mythic fanboi. Far as im concerned this game doesn't have a pray in hell now of being really successfull, and I actually see a realease simular to Saga of Rysom instead of one like SWG or EQ2, I talk about games like FFXI, L 1 or 2, or WOW.
They can push this game all the way back into 2008, at this point I think that might actually be better for them. Warhammer is looking like another WOW, only with a purpose behind PVP this time. It might not only kill AOC and others being released this year, but it might actually kill WOW.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Exactly but at this point there is really no hope for AOC if you ask me. They only hope they did have was trying to release this game 4 months prior to WAR or a year after. Since they will be doing neither I think this title will hardly get the numbers it needs to be a major players.
I was all over this game but WAR and the way they are handling things and that new video detailing PVP (How it will work and the actually gameplay) has made me a Mythic fanboi. Far as im concerned this game doesn't have a pray in hell now of being really successfull, and I actually see a realease simular to Saga of Rysom instead of one like SWG or EQ2, I talk about games like FFXI, L 1 or 2, or WOW.
They can push this game all the way back into 2008, at this point I think that might actually be better for them. Warhammer is looking like another WOW, only with a purpose behind PVP this time. It might not only kill AOC and others being released this year, but it might actually kill WOW.
I think most of us following this game respect your statement, but do not expect nor want a WOW killer from AOC.
I'm hoping WAR swallows up "that" market. Hopefully have high system requirements like Vanguard to keep out the children that weren't swallowed up by WAR.
To me that is all fine, plus a little extra time allows them to finish the game and me to save for a rig upgrade.
See? Nothing but good news with this push back, so in a since, I kinda hope you're right (just for a different reason).
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No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Exactly but at this point there is really no hope for AOC if you ask me. They only hope they did have was trying to release this game 4 months prior to WAR or a year after. Since they will be doing neither I think this title will hardly get the numbers it needs to be a major players.
I was all over this game but WAR and the way they are handling things and that new video detailing PVP (How it will work and the actually gameplay) has made me a Mythic fanboi. Far as im concerned this game doesn't have a pray in hell now of being really successfull, and I actually see a realease simular to Saga of Rysom instead of one like SWG or EQ2, I talk about games like FFXI, L 1 or 2, or WOW.
They can push this game all the way back into 2008, at this point I think that might actually be better for them. Warhammer is looking like another WOW, only with a purpose behind PVP this time. It might not only kill AOC and others being released this year, but it might actually kill WOW.
I think most of us following this game respect your statement, but do not expect nor want a WOW killer from AOC.
I'm hoping WAR swallows up "that" market. Hopefully have high system requirements like Vanguard to keep out the children that weren't swallowed up by WAR.
To me that is all fine, plus a little extra time allows them to finish the game and me to save for a rig upgrade.
See? Nothing but good news with this push back, so in a since, I kinda hope you're right (just for a different reason).
Never thought AOC would be a WOW killer but I think WAR will be one.
But I guess to each his own, personally I think that pushing this game back to launch around the same time of WAR will be a horrible mistake.
EQ2 had the misfurtune of launching around the same time as WOW and fell flat on its face sub wise. You would think Funcom would think about that or maybe even think about the time when the released a expansion around the same time as SWG. But I guess some people don't learn from history.
I think they should push it back another 6 months.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
In these days the online community overall is growing so rapidly we might see that WAR/AoC/WoW living together in harmony. I seriously believe there will be room for all three of them.
I wont guarantee for the others though hehehee
Speak for yourself, I could care less about the PVP, we need an MMORPG that is completely story driven. What you think made Final Fantasy a hit? To love the story, setting and the characters. Most MMORPGs out there completely miss the whole "RPG" part.
IMO EQ2 fell flat not due to WoW but rather the fact that at launch it was a sad game to beguin with. EQ has had a major following for many years and EQ2 didnt deliver much to the fans, if u think about it most of the EQ fans are stuck in WoW because they lack a true home lol. If SOE would have done the game right i dont think WoW would be as big as it is today. Its a great game on its own, but looking back i dont think WOW would be sitting on 8m subs if EQ2 would have actually surpased EQ1 as far as content, immersion and overall fun. SOE simply screwed up (again) and thats the reason people despise the bastards.
On the other hand i have never read a single conan book, dont know jack about its lore but im still completely drawn by the way its developer is going to make this game. From an outsiders perspective if AoC delivers on its promise it will be succesful regardless of what game comes out alongside it. AoC seems to be catering to those Conan fans, the mature audience (rated M yay), high end PC owners (lil kids w intel celerons ftl muahahaha) and the pvp crowd. And as a pvp fan i see this game as a holy grail, as a matter of fact the game has made me interested in the books, perhaps by its release ill know much more about the lore and be able to enjoy its story arc even more.
You obviosly were not here when WOW was released. We had more push backs and more canceled MMORPG projects then in any periord in this genre..
You people are just don't get it. There are not more people attracted to this genre then ever before, there are more people attracted to WOW. Take WOW out of the picture, do you honestly think that ALL those people would be playing EQ2, Vanguard, City of Heros, or better yet do you think they would have even heard about them?
Keep thinking that AOC subs will not be affected by a game like Warhammer. Just like Playstations 3 subs were not effected by a console like the Wii...
I know most of you could careless if not that many people play AOC, but im not in your mindset. I remember playing Anarchy Online back in its prime (Notum Wars expansion period) then I remember playing it after they released that horrible expansion on us (Shadowlands) right around the same time that SWG launched. The difference population wise was night and day, and when your population takes a major hit so does the game. Sitting around hours at a time trying to get a group for TOTW or to run a mission when it used to take only a few minutes is NOT FUN. Having towers that are no longer being attacked by the enemy because they have left the game is NOT FUN.
I don't know about the most of you but I play MMORPG's mainly because they're suppose to be MASSIVE, meaning tons of people play. But when everyone is playing the 'other game' and not the one your playing, you become tempted (very strongly) to go join them.
P.S perhaps I should not use the phraze kill anymore. When I was using it before I meant put a dent into the population and in essence kill it that way. But mark my words WAR will put a dent into WOW, and it will even put a bigger one in AOC if they release around the same time frame. The game is looking that damn good, and not only do they have a huge WARHAMMER following behind them, they have a pretty big DAOC one as well. Those 2 factors alone spell ' HUGE HIT'!
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Yeah it had nothing to do with the fact that WOW launced open beta in the same few days that EQ2 came out, and then launched the game shortly after... A open beta that was the biggest open beta in history..
Naw your right, WOW had nothing to do with EQ2's sub par sub numbers...
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
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I think the high system requirements are cutting out more than just little kids with celerons. Afterall the most immature kids I've seen are the spoiled rich ones whose parents buy them the brand new rigs. To me it looks like they're cutting out a good chunk of the college-age gamers as well. Most college kids (except the ones whose parents buy them new rigs) won't want to spend $1500 plus on a new rig just to play a single game. I say $1500 plus because that's how much it will cost me to upgrade mine to the specs that AoC has.
If you combine the high system requirements and the release date, I think it will be a miracle if AoC is very successful. If they push the game back again, then I think the chances of having a successful release are even slimmer. If they keep showing all of their fans "fly-bys" and "PvE" official videos and keep holding back a "PvP" official video, they're going to lose a lot of their hype.
There's only so many flybys and PvE that people can stand for a PvP centered game before they start getting really skeptical about it.
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The majority of well known MMO's that have been released are still up and running to this day because they're still making a profit. Sure, they could be making more were it not for whatever stunted them, be it the release, another MMO, or whatever, but they are still worth keeping running. And so will the future MMOs that will be released this year and beyond.
I suppose you could consider a MMO 'dead' when its populataion seems so scarce and desolate, but I'd say that it is just dying at that point. Which it could always pull back from, stay in its slump for the rest of its time, or succumb, and finally be killed.