GW isn't an MMO

Ryeko · February 2007

This is how I see it. In an MMO, you can go anywhere and see other people that aren't in your party. Like WoW or CoH. In this game, there are only designated areas where you can see other people not in your party, and those areas are very small. AND you can ctually beat this game. You're not supposed to be able to beat an MMO. I know, yeah, you get to the last level, in most other games, but you can still do quests, and help other people. I'mnot saying you can't do that in Guild Wars, but it can't be as fun.

sunflame · February 2007

I agree... For me GW seems more like a "live chat room" with an option to play online a single player game - which is why i dont play this game.

Aeonoris · February 2007

I would still definately call it massively multiplayer, though perhaps it should have its own genre.

Most MMOs (like WoW) don't have any more multiplayer interaction, despite the ability to.

Look at AO, it uses missions that other people can't enter, and that seems very similar to this type of thing, just less extreme.

jordanclock · February 2007

Originally posted by Ryeko

This is how I see it. In an MMO, you can go anywhere and see other people that aren't in your party. Like WoW or CoH. In this game, there are only designated areas where you can see other people not in your party, and those areas are very small. AND you can ctually beat this game. You're not supposed to be able to beat an MMO. I know, yeah, you get to the last level, in most other games, but you can still do quests, and help other people. I'mnot saying you can't do that in Guild Wars, but it can't be as fun.

You can see others that aren't in your party. They're called the enemy. While it's not massive in the direct presentation, it's massive in the amount of players you can interact with. The focus of GW is definitely PvP, and the system it uses for that is as massively multiplayer as any other game. Thousands of guilds competing everyday against each other and thousands of random arena paticipants. Just because you can't get ninja looted because everyone else can access the same exact area at the same time doesn't make it less massive.

Also, who says you aren't supposed to beat an MMO? Heaven forbid a game developer provide an end goal or some closure. But again, PvE and the story aren't the focus of GW. The PvP is. And that's where your silly idea of MMO's being infinite (and repetitive) comes in.

And when you "complete" GW, you can still go do other things, such as complete other quests or unlock skills.

Just because the time spent between cities is only with your party doesn't exclude GW as an MMO.

Force9x · February 2007

You can see others that aren't in your party. They're called the enemy. While it's not massive in the direct presentation, it's massive in the amount of players you can interact with. The focus of GW is definitely PvP, and the system it uses for that is as massively multiplayer as any other game. Thousands of guilds competing everyday against each other and thousands of random arena paticipants. Just because you can't get ninja looted because everyone else can access the same exact area at the same time doesn't make it less massive.

Also, who says you aren't supposed to beat an MMO? Heaven forbid a game developer provide an end goal or some closure. But again, PvE and the story aren't the focus of GW. The PvP is. And that's where your silly idea of MMO's being infinite (and repetitive) comes in.

And when you "complete" GW, you can still go do other things, such as complete other quests or unlock skills.

Just because the time spent between cities is only with your party doesn't exclude GW as an MMO.

You are one of the first people i have seen that understands that. The purpose of any game should not be to just get to some high level. Most mmo's don't start till you get near the highest level, so GW just shortcuts you there. It also gets rid of the retarded gear based combat, and makes you focus on strategy and doing your job.(and yes, 8 people with only 8 skills each takes much more strategy then a whole mess of people that can just bounce between any role they want)

Serling · February 2007

"GW isn't an MMO"

Who freaking cares?!?!? If you like it, play it. If you don't, leave! Who gives a greasy rat's rear-end what it's called, what it is or what you think?!?!?

EOD.

Akaraxle · February 2007

GW is a MMORPG: http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/110155, read CaleSentari's and NFWolfDude's posts.

You are wrong, end of thread.

Upload · February 2007

Guild Wars is a CORPG (Coorperative/Competitive Role Playing Game) and NOT a MMORPG.

Guild Wars is the name of a series of Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Games (CORPG) created by ArenaNet, a subsidiary of the South Korean game publisher NCsoft.

Guild Wars shares many features with massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG). However, it was called a CORPG by its designers to emphasize the differences in its approach to online role-playing compared to other games in the MMORPG genre. Primarily, Guild Wars is one of only a few commercially produced and distributed online role-playing games to eschew subscription fees, instead offering unlimited playing time on the game servers.

Source: Wikipedia

Akaraxle · February 2007

Originally posted by sven101
Guild Wars is a CORPG (Coorperative/Competitive Role Playing Game) and NOT a MMORPG.
Guild Wars is the name of a series of Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Games (CORPG) created by ArenaNet, a subsidiary of the South Korean game publisher NCsoft.
Guild Wars shares many features with massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG). However, it was called a CORPG by its designers to emphasize the differences in its approach to online role-playing compared to other games in the MMORPG genre. Primarily, Guild Wars is one of only a few commercially produced and distributed online role-playing games to eschew subscription fees, instead offering unlimited playing time on the game servers.
Source: Wikipedia

You look like the type who's incapable of reading, so I'll quote for you:

Originally posted by CaleSentari
"Rather than labeling Guild Wars an MMORPG, we prefer to call it a CORPG (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game). "
If I'm not mistaken, the creators of GW coined the term CORPG themselves when they felt their game did not fit into the broader definitions of what a MMORPG was thought to be, in other words to distinguish themselves from that genre. Some of it may have been marketing and trying to be "something different" but even they say it's partly due to heavy usages of instances and the heavy PvP focus. Be careful before you speak in absolutes, especially this one as it is false.

Originally posted by NFWolfDude
M=Massive, GW is that, many many users three complete campaigns, tons of content, tons of competition, massive amounts of people playing, beyond massive, it's a behemoth..oh wait that would make it a BMORPG and start a whole new round of discussions, nevermind.M=Multi-player, team pve, pvp, gvg, towns bursting at the seams, GW has that.O=online, only a fanboy of another game would try to argue GW was not online.RPG=role playing game-GW is as much an RPG as any other RPG out there.

GW is a MMORPG, lol pwned imo tbh.

AutemOx · February 2007

For "not being a mmo" Guild Wars sure is doing well on mmorpg.com, isnt it? With Guild Wars: Nightfall as the highest ranked mmorpg on this site, Guild Wars: Prophecies at #4, and Guild Wars: Factions at #6...

Dungeons and Dragons Online, also which is not a mmo by your standards, is doing pretty well on mmorpg.com too. Not as good as Guild Wars but hey, its okay.

bodhi7283 · February 2007

Gw is the best game in the world. i love it and i live for it.

fedor23 · February 2007

duh, its an rpg, its kind of like Diablo II but 3d and not blizzlike

kdawwg29 · February 2007

Guild Wars is a game I love regardless of whether or not it is an MMORPG. The only thing is that the definition of Massive that you have given can be argued. In guild wars there are massive amounts of people playing but outside of the cities it is only very small groups...maximum 8. In other MassivelyMORPGs like WoW for example you can have massive raid groups and even hundreds of people in the same area of opposite factions ready for pvp if it was well enough organized. Just depends how you define massive and to which part of the game it applies.

Upload · February 2007

Originally posted by Akaraxle

Originally posted by sven101

Guild Wars is a CORPG (Coorperative/Competitive Role Playing Game) and NOT a MMORPG.

Guild Wars is the name of a series of Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Games (CORPG) created by ArenaNet, a subsidiary of the South Korean game publisher NCsoft.

Guild Wars shares many features with massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG). However, it was called a CORPG by its designers to emphasize the differences in its approach to online role-playing compared to other games in the MMORPG genre. Primarily, Guild Wars is one of only a few commercially produced and distributed online role-playing games to eschew subscription fees, instead offering unlimited playing time on the game servers.

Source: Wikipedia

You look like the type who's incapable of reading, so I'll quote for you:

Originally posted by CaleSentari

"Rather than labeling Guild Wars an MMORPG, we prefer to call it a CORPG (Competitive Online Role-Playing Game). "

If I'm not mistaken, the creators of GW coined the term CORPG themselves when they felt their game did not fit into the broader definitions of what a MMORPG was thought to be, in other words to distinguish themselves from that genre. Some of it may have been marketing and trying to be "something different" but even they say it's partly due to heavy usages of instances and the heavy PvP focus. Be careful before you speak in absolutes, especially this one as it is false.

Originally posted by NFWolfDude

M=Massive, GW is that, many many users three complete campaigns, tons of content, tons of competition, massive amounts of people playing, beyond massive, it's a behemoth..oh wait that would make it a BMORPG and start a whole new round of discussions, nevermind.

M=Multi-player, team pve, pvp, gvg, towns bursting at the seams, GW has that.
O=online, only a fanboy of another game would try to argue GW was not online.
RPG=role playing game-GW is as much an RPG as any other RPG out there.

GW is a MMORPG, lol pwned imo tbh.

Arenanet claims themselves that Guild Wars is CORPG and not a MMORPG. I think Arenanet knows more about this game than you do.

Akaraxle · February 2007

Originally posted by sven101
Arenanet claims themselves that Guild Wars is CORPG and not a MMORPG. I think Arenanet knows more about this game than you do.

ArenaNet calls it a "CORPG" but they don't call it "not a MMORPG". CORPG is a subcategory of MMORPG. And trust me, I know more about this game than you can imagine.

Also, I like to call it a MMORPG just to piss off the WoW fanbois who can't stand the fact that their game is nowhere to be seen on the top list despite its 8M subscribers.

exanimo · February 2007

as i said in the other thread
only the other games fanboys keep trying to flame guildwars saying its not a mmo
NO ONE CARES !!!!

for me its the best online PC game , call it what ever you want

Nitrock · February 2007

Originally posted by Serling

"GW isn't an MMO"
Who freaking cares?!?!? If you like it, play it. If you don't, leave! Who gives a greasy rat's rear-end what it's called, what it is or what you think?!?!?
EOD.

Agreed, all i see Guild Wars is not an MMO, who cares does it really matter?

Goddyfather · February 2007

So fraking what?, MMORPG is just a title. if u like it play it, dont think about it.

Parsifal57 · February 2007

Originally posted by sven101

Guild Wars is a CORPG (Coorperative/Competitive Role Playing Game) and NOT a MMORPG.
Guild Wars is the name of a series of Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Games (CORPG) created by ArenaNet, a subsidiary of the South Korean game publisher NCsoft.
Guild Wars shares many features with massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG). However, it was called a CORPG by its designers to emphasize the differences in its approach to online role-playing compared to other games in the MMORPG genre. Primarily, Guild Wars is one of only a few commercially produced and distributed online role-playing games to eschew subscription fees, instead offering unlimited playing time on the game servers.
Source: Wikipedia

Given that Wiki's are written and updated by pretty much anyone who cares to put time into putting together some information, you've haven't exactly chosen an authorative source for your definitions. Wki's are useful as a starting point but don't treat them as if they are 100% factually correct since the reflect peoples personal opinions a lot of the time.

HensenLiros · February 2007

Originally posted by Ryeko

This is how I see it. In an MMO, you can go anywhere and see other people that aren't in your party. Like WoW or CoH. In this game, there are only designated areas where you can see other people not in your party, and those areas are very small. AND you can ctually beat this game. You're not supposed to be able to beat an MMO. I know, yeah, you get to the last level, in most other games, but you can still do quests, and help other people. I'mnot saying you can't do that in Guild Wars, but it can't be as fun.

I wonder how people can be that stupid..

WoW has instances, like many other games, the only difference is that while has some instanced dungeons, GW has all PvE areas instaced. If you the type of guy that "loves seeing people running around" then I'd suggest you to play another game, but only because you don't like this aspect you can't just go out and say "Hey GW isn't an MMO!" the instaced areas exist for a reason: less lag and no killsteals. http://www.endlagnow.org/ELN/ See how it works? Take a look at this chart and you'll be able to compare the lag in WoW and GW. After you get to WoW's endgame, I bet you'll just come out to this forum and say "Hey WoW isn't an MMO!", because at a certain point all you do is LFG for a while and then do an instanced dungeon =/

Beat the game? Can you please explain me how? Oh so you can't keep doing quests on GW?

Tell me what you do on WoW after reaching lvl cap and getting a nice equipment. You keep doing quests and helping people out? And it's funner than in GW for some unexplained reason right? Well if you weren't so dumb you'd know that GW is a PvP based game, the game is focused on PVP (PLAYER VERSUS PLAYER) so after reaching the lvl cap and getting a nice gear you go PVP. I'm not even going to try understanding your point of view because it's just so poorly explained (Oh you can beat GW and cant beat other mmos) why the fuck don't you just tell us why? Because it's easier to level? The game is PVP BASED FFS, it's not supposed to have endless quests.

ianmcc · February 2007

amen brother

gw aint an mmorpg, it shouldnt b on a site called mmorpg.com and if ur looking for a new mmorpg then i recommend avoiding gw, this does not mean gw is a bad game bcoz it can b enjoyed if u like the action/adventure side of games... but if u prefer the rpg and mmo side then i recommend to pass on this and find another alternative

3L1TE · February 2007

Originally posted by Parsifal57
Originally posted by sven101 Guild Wars is a CORPG (Coorperative/Competitive Role Playing Game) and NOT a MMORPG.
Guild Wars is the name of a series of Competitive/Cooperative Online Role-Playing Games (CORPG) created by ArenaNet, a subsidiary of the South Korean game publisher NCsoft.
Guild Wars shares many features with massively multiplayer online role-playing games (MMORPG). However, it was called a CORPG by its designers to emphasize the differences in its approach to online role-playing compared to other games in the MMORPG genre. Primarily, Guild Wars is one of only a few commercially produced and distributed online role-playing games to eschew subscription fees, instead offering unlimited playing time on the game servers.
Source: Wikipedia

Given that Wiki's are written and updated by pretty much anyone who cares to put time into putting together some information, you've haven't exactly chosen an authorative source for your definitions. Wki's are useful as a starting point but don't treat them as if they are 100% factually correct since the reflect peoples personal opinions a lot of the time.

There are certain pages on wiki that are not allowed to be edited and that is one of them.

Also Who the hell cares if it's not a MMO Or a MMORPG Or a CORPG, It's just a game.and to start a 3 page topic on it, Thats sad.

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