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Searching for a game with real RP

Now you all know what serious, strict RP is and I am searching for such game - which has the best RP community. I've played some MMORPG-s, but as long as I remember the only place I met RP-ers was at WoW at a roleplaying server. The bad thing is that even there most people hate roleplaying and I could hardly find anyone to roleplay with, but PVP only bores me to death  . Any suggestions will be quite welcome and I really hope that there will be such games,

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  • Token1337GuyToken1337Guy Member Posts: 159
    People tend to immediately suggest Ryzom, but I was never really able to get into that game far enough to find any fellow RP'ers.  It seem we're a breed developers couldn't care less about.  It's a shame.  I'd love to find a good game to RP in as well.
  • BodwinBodwin Member Posts: 7
    Well I'd prefer if you skip the sci-fi games I prefer the fantasy ones only because there I can roleplay easily. As far as I know in the US servers of WoW people on RP servers are obliged to RP or else...they're kicked from it (I'm not sure I've only heard of that). There are GMs online to whom you can complain and report someone if he/she's acting immaturely and so on. But on the European servers there's no such thing. There are always people walking naked and dancing or drinking and that's...lame. It turns out that only newbies go to the RP servers so that they don't get killed so easily. That's why I think that if you want to roleplay you'll have to buy WoW...and be in USA.
  • Token1337GuyToken1337Guy Member Posts: 159
    RP in WoW is rare to find, even on the US RP servers.  Even when you do find the said RP, most of the time it's done in tight groups that you feel you'd be intruding on if you attempted to try it.  Blizzard doesn't really give a damn about enforcing RP on the RP servers anyway.  In fact, you'll find it just as bad (if not worse) than the Europe servers.



    Also, Ryzom isn't Sci-Fi, it's Fantasy.  At least, last I checked.
  • NydornaNydorna Member Posts: 9

    If you're serious about RP, join us in Vanguard...or just drop by our site and say hello!

    In the Dark Province we don’t grind a game – we live it!

    Are you a serious role-player? Do you want to be? Have you ever said to yourself, “Those roleplay geeks do some pretty cool stuff – I would like to try it, but I don’t know how.”

    Come to the Dark Province!

    The lovely Duchess Immorteliado is in dire need of knights, spellcasters, artisans, diplomats and prelates (you know – those religious guys). Following the death of her husband, the young widow finds herself beset on all sides by enemies and so-called “friends” alike. Who will come to her aid? Who will scheme with her enemies? Who has the inside track on winning the hand of this lovely and talented young noble? Will it be you?

    A RPE Guild - Role Playing Expected / Role Playing Enforced

    By the time you've read this, you may have gotten the impression that we're a roleplaying guild. That's correct! However, we are not simply a guild with members who wish to play the role of a Warrior, Rogue, Mage, or Healer. We are a guild of members who wish to play the roles as Citizens and Nobles within the city of Dark Province and enjoy these roles while staying in character!

    In the words of the Duchess herself:
    "I am playing this game to get lost in what we’re creating here, and any ties to the real world will absolutely destroy it – which is why team speak and such will not be used in our guild. When I am playing, I will not have a separate window open to chat and play at the same time. If ceremonies are being conducted or the leaders wish to discuss things behind the scenes, that’s fine. But on a normal play day, I won’t be in some other chat. As I stated before, over my 8 years of gaming, not once have I been out of character in game, and I never will be."

    Still interested? Sound like it might be fun? We’re looking for a few good founding citizens. Roleplay experience is not required – what is required is a strong sense of community and a desire to play within our universe using our rules. If you have the desire…if you have the heart…if you’re willing to put in the effort…we’ll help you with the roleplay. Experience Vanguard the way it was meant to be experienced.

    Come to the Dark Province if you dare…

    Nydorna Elear -- Citizen of the Dark Province

    An Equal Opportunity Roleplaying Guild
    www.DarkProvince.net

  • Token1337GuyToken1337Guy Member Posts: 159
    I'd love to take part in that, but... Vanguard seems to be shaping up as another item-centric grind-based generic cesspool of a game.  At least, from what I've heard.  You notice the hours I've played WoW?  I don't have a single character above 20 because I'm in character as much as possible.  Which means grinding is out.  The way MMORPGs end up, even when you role play, is still typically with the same mechanic as the non-RP servers:  The person with the will to grind their character to the top before beginning to Role Play has an advantage over the lower leveled strict RP'er.  So in the end, the RP is just a facade to mask the shallow gameplay.
  • RamsesIIRamsesII Member Posts: 3

    well, I definetly agree with you guys. I also need a good story to keep me going.

    I suggest you play guildwars, it is 1 big story line which also has some freedom in it. you are as always a chosen hero and stuff, part 2 is a bid sad, becouse you can only play 1 half of the game. yes also your other chars will be determanated to 1 side. bud the 2 sides are prettty big dont wurry :P part 3 I dont really know I didnt even play the first try outs. I only know that party grown to giants, becosue you need to lead people to freedom. this is for your oppinion of carrying 4 other npc bots with you, and then 8 ppl makes 40 persons in the quest map pretty busy.

    I can also recommand Flyff, I play it right now and you start the rp very soon, I won't say you dont have to gridn you skill higher bud I did it pretty funny with a party of 10. there story's are great and the monster not to hard. you can keep on going with your quest becouse you will do more than you ever think. (some are like walk from 1 person 3 meters to the other...)  btw all the quest are really connected to the storyline. if you want to make money no problemo you find the monster from your lvl and you will gaint drops pretty fast

     

    I retired from A LOT mmorpg's XD

  • NydornaNydorna Member Posts: 9

    Well, I can't argue with much of what you guys are saying, BUT...

    To some extent, the RP in a game (or not in a game) is what you make of it. I have played in hardcore RP guilds in SB, AC2, and WoW. Our guilds were tight-knit, strong and maybe a bit elitist, but we carved out our own niche in each game and held it. In WoW I actually had an alt that I played only in a group with five other hardcore RPers. We got together once a week and only played those characters within that group. We never spoke a word OOC to each other. After a couple of months we were still level 10, but what does that matter? We had a ton of fun doing it.

    If you're thinking that you're suddenly going to get a game where the majority of the population is going to be hardcore RPers and play the game in character, it's never going to happen. That's human nature -- don't blame it on the software.

    I'll be honest -- the first thing I do in a MMORPG is turn off all the OOC channels. The guild makes its channel IC, and we enforce rules on OOC spatial for all our members. If someone comes up to me and says, "do u have 3s? i need 3s get a nu wepn," I say, "Begone beggar! I'm not here to provide weaponry to the unwashed filth!" or something similar. In a battle of wits, most RPers can destroy any leet dewd, so do it and do it in character. If you do it right, you coime out looking the hero to everyone around you, and he comes off looking like an ass.

    If you hold to IC and refuse to be dragged down into the OOC muck; if you find a group of like-minded people who will do the same; then you will be in a real MMORPG. Blaming the lack of RP on everyone around you is kind of like people who say things like "The greenhouse effect is destroying our environment," but drive a Lincoln Navigator. The world is what you make of it to a large extent.

  • ShariShari Member UncommonPosts: 746
    you could try UrU Live. no grinding

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  • Token1337GuyToken1337Guy Member Posts: 159
    Originally posted by Nydorna


    Well, I can't argue with much of what you guys are saying, BUT...
    To some extent, the RP in a game (or not in a game) is what you make of it. I have played in hardcore RP guilds in SB, AC2, and WoW. Our guilds were tight-knit, strong and maybe a bit elitist, but we carved out our own niche in each game and held it. In WoW I actually had an alt that I played only in a group with five other hardcore RPers. We got together once a week and only played those characters within that group. We never spoke a word OOC to each other. After a couple of months we were still level 10, but what does that matter? We had a ton of fun doing it.
    If you're thinking that you're suddenly going to get a game where the majority of the population is going to be hardcore RPers and play the game in character, it's never going to happen. That's human nature -- don't blame it on the software.
    I'll be honest -- the first thing I do in a MMORPG is turn off all the OOC channels. The guild makes its channel IC, and we enforce rules on OOC spatial for all our members. If someone comes up to me and says, "do u have 3s? i need 3s get a nu wepn," I say, "Begone beggar! I'm not here to provide weaponry to the unwashed filth!" or something similar. In a battle of wits, most RPers can destroy any leet dewd, so do it and do it in character. If you do it right, you coime out looking the hero to everyone around you, and he comes off looking like an ass.
    If you hold to IC and refuse to be dragged down into the OOC muck; if you find a group of like-minded people who will do the same; then you will be in a real MMORPG. Blaming the lack of RP on everyone around you is kind of like people who say things like "The greenhouse effect is destroying our environment," but drive a Lincoln Navigator. The world is what you make of it to a large extent.
    I'd love to find a group of RPers to group with, but the groups you do find in games such as WoW tend to already be very tight and usually without a good reason for my character to become involved.
  • BodwinBodwin Member Posts: 7
    Sorry for the delayed reply but I thought my question had a difficult answer .Anyway Vanguard is an RP guild in WoW right? If that's so then I can't join you - I don't play WoW anymore because I don't have time. I am happy that there are such RP guilds out there. Last night I even watched a video made by a member of the Mithril Guard guild in Moonglade server which showed how they "crowned" their new leader and it was very well organized and there wasn't anyone to jump around....or get naked and dance  . Thanks for all your replies and I would like to ask you another question: Is there a game in which you can level up easier and reach the limit much faster than in WoW? I'm asking this because in such games I think you can find more RP-ers for there isn't so much leveling up and gold farming.
  • BodwinBodwin Member Posts: 7
    Sorry for the stupid reply I just realized that Vanguard was a game . Well I would really like to join you but I can't pay for a game right now so I'll have to find a free one. Thanks for your invitation Nydorna.
  • Token1337GuyToken1337Guy Member Posts: 159
    Well, if anyone reading this is up for meeting up and RPing in WoW or the like (and I may well grab Vanguard for some RP as well), let me know.  PM or post here, I suppose.
  • TehWarsmithTehWarsmith Member Posts: 19
    Well, the RP community in City of Heroes/Villains is excellent, and it is a game made for the RPers. The unbelievably versatile character creator allows you to play /anything/ you want, and there are alot of roleplayers. The people who don't tend to respect those who do. Stick to Virtue server, though, it's the unofficial RP server.



    In World of Warcraft, check out the Steamwheedle Cartel server. I have a blood elf warlock, I'm in a very, very good RP guild, and I've noticed a lot of other RP. Can't tell you how it is Alliance-side, I'm afraid.

    “Everything’s standard pattern! This is the Imperial fething Guard! Standard pattern boots, standard pattern mess tins, standard pattern bodybags! I’m a standard pattern infantryman, you’re a standard pattern no-neck, and any second now my standard pattern fist is going to send your nose bone back into your very sub-standard pattern brain!” – Sergeant Ceglan Varl

  • BodwinBodwin Member Posts: 7
    We may try something like this. As I can see I am not the only one willing to RP so I say we pick a MMORPG ( a free one) and then create a guild in it that will be RP guild. Then we make a site for the guild and start searching....maybe other forums for roleplayers to join us. As I suppose most of you are busy during the week (at least I am) so we may play during the weekends - we just pick a certain time for 1-2 hours for example and play...thus you will be able to play your other games without slowing your progress on it. And though we won't level up fast in this game I think  fun is the most important.
  • DevyDevy Member Posts: 3

    Guild Wars Night Fall is pretty easy to get to max level.. and also has some guilds that do live Rp ingame.  I know that my alliance has doen it regularely - but i did not participate myself.

    http://guildwars.ogaming.com/forum/index.php

    This is a link to the Ogaming fansite - you'' prolly will not find much readings to do in the Rp sections, but why dont you post a topic yourself? I think a lot of people would be interested

     

  • Token1337GuyToken1337Guy Member Posts: 159
    Originally posted by TehWarsmith

    Well, the RP community in City of Heroes/Villains is excellent, and it is a game made for the RPers. The unbelievably versatile character creator allows you to play /anything/ you want, and there are alot of roleplayers. The people who don't tend to respect those who do. Stick to Virtue server, though, it's the unofficial RP server.



    In World of Warcraft, check out the Steamwheedle Cartel server. I have a blood elf warlock, I'm in a very, very good RP guild, and I've noticed a lot of other RP. Can't tell you how it is Alliance-side, I'm afraid.
    What is your character's name?  I'll jump on that server, I suppose.  I'll be going be the name Trecht.
  • DarkWaffleDarkWaffle Member Posts: 11
    Dark Solstice is shaping up to be pretty RP-centric, www.solsticeserver.com

    thankfully the graphics scare off the kiddies (:
  • BodwinBodwin Member Posts: 7
    Plane shift is a bit RP-ish I mean that people there really tend to roleplay as much as possible but the game is awful and there the conversation with the NPC is based on commands. You just say Hello and then What do you do? and then Give me a job...and it's really hard to complete a quest since you must know exactly what to say to the NPC and noone there is willing to help you with them...it's against the rules. Now about Dark Solstice the bad thing about it is that it's not going to be free and I think if we have to form a RP community we should pick a free game even though there may be no roleplayers before us. We just sign in and form a guild that will be for RP-ers only.
  • ferndipferndip Member UncommonPosts: 67
    Never Winter Nights 2,  its free to play  , fantasy based and better than most mmorpg's. At least in my opinion.
  • TumainiTumaini Member Posts: 1
    May I suggest Adellion, a world created for roleplayers, by roleplayers!

    It has enforced RP, and people who do not RP mysteriously catch a rare disease for a while.

    It also has devs as Cultural Leaders to drive the stories and events at the beginning, is skillbased (with hidden progress!), and has probably the greatest realism I've yet to see in a game, and it is still a fantasy game!

    The game is not out yet, nor has it gone into beta, so it will still be a few months at least before you'll be able to play it, but the community is great, and there is much roleplaying to be done out of the game before it starts if you wish.

    Take a look, and see what you think!
  • RobindetRobindet Member Posts: 22
    When I started reading this post, I thought that an only Role Playing MMORPG would be great for devs because lots of people like RP and I think they'll easily find gamers. No doubt most WoW players would quit this game and start a new adventure in a real RP world, so Adellion, if the devs work correctly on it shall find a large community.



    Guild Wars is a good MMO (even though Arena Net call it a COORPG) for playing RP, because all the world, except the outposts and cities are instanciated, and so you can easily find a guild of RPers, wherever you're from and RP in this world easily I think. I haven't tried it already but there's been a long time since I thought about it and I often promise myself I'll find a Guild and play RP, but I'm the kind of people who hardly do what they planned to



    Neverwinter Nights 2 is a really good game of course but in order to play in multiplayer mode, it's better to play in LAN because online it would be hard to find RPers and meet them at least once a week and play only together.



    Another good game for playing could be EVE Online ; as to what I read about it in magazines it seems to have its own life, and to be a real alternative world that players can change by themselves, but I don't really know if it is really RP or not

    "When all else fails, send a Templar."
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  • TehWarsmithTehWarsmith Member Posts: 19
    Originally posted by Token1337Guy

    Originally posted by TehWarsmith

    Well, the RP community in City of Heroes/Villains is excellent, and it is a game made for the RPers. The unbelievably versatile character creator allows you to play /anything/ you want, and there are alot of roleplayers. The people who don't tend to respect those who do. Stick to Virtue server, though, it's the unofficial RP server.



    In World of Warcraft, check out the Steamwheedle Cartel server. I have a blood elf warlock, I'm in a very, very good RP guild, and I've noticed a lot of other RP. Can't tell you how it is Alliance-side, I'm afraid.
    What is your character's name?  I'll jump on that server, I suppose.  I'll be going be the name Trecht.

    x_x I thought you meant CoH for a second. Fixed. On WoW, my character's name is Nayla.

    “Everything’s standard pattern! This is the Imperial fething Guard! Standard pattern boots, standard pattern mess tins, standard pattern bodybags! I’m a standard pattern infantryman, you’re a standard pattern no-neck, and any second now my standard pattern fist is going to send your nose bone back into your very sub-standard pattern brain!” – Sergeant Ceglan Varl

  • AkaraxleAkaraxle Member UncommonPosts: 471


    Originally posted by Devy
    Guild Wars Night Fall is pretty easy to get to max level.. and also has some guilds that do live Rp ingame. I know that my alliance has doen it regularely - but i did not participate myself.
    http://guildwars.ogaming.com/forum/index.php
    This is a link to the Ogaming fansite - you'' prolly will not find much readings to do in the Rp sections, but why dont you post a topic yourself? I think a lot of people would be interested

    Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, don't get GW for RP! Please don't!

    Get NWN1.

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  • ssstupidossstupido Member Posts: 253


    Originally posted by Bodwin

    Well I'd prefer if you skip the sci-fi games I prefer the fantasy ones only because there I can roleplay easily.


    well, that is a pity. EVE is the best game to roleplay, as long as you understand that roleplaying isnt killing orcs, rescueing princess and talking like "thee" and "thou".

  • player321player321 Member Posts: 28
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