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Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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If you do a user search on Smuggler_Caylin on the suckboards you will find that there is no record of him making those posts, so as such that would mean the posts have been deleted with the thread. If this was the case his post count would also have been depleted by 2 posts. However his post count reads 7836 posts, I think this more or less proves the grab to be fake.
Funny though, if SOE werent so dishonest to begin with and didn't have a policy where they deny thigns right up until the last second (NGE) then people wouldn't be so ready to beleive rumour.....
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Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Hahaha! How amusing omg............. this is the best post ever HAHAHA!!!
Seriously, it's both a confession and a cry for help by SOE.
"We know we screwed up so let's just make a new SWG we can ruin and fish out cash from our playerbase!"
Anyway, at that time when it's released we are probably going to have the following games to play:
Warhammer Online
Age of Conan
Pirates of the burning Sea
Darkfall (LoL)
and Duke Nukem Forever (LOOL)
Good Luck $OE!!!
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
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And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I'd more likely let my kids play at Michael Jackson's house before I buy another game from $OE... let alone another heartbreaker like SWG.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me.
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
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/just say'n
Would you people STFU about SOE? LucasArts drove it to the half-assed so called FPS it is today... There was even damn press releases and interviews with LucasArts about it. My god you people have no idea what you're talking about. SOE didn't have a say in SWG other then mostly release date related things. They are a PUBLISHING company. They foot the bill for folks that come to them with a "cool, hit, badass" game. Ounce them folks f*** up their game SOE takes over and has to fix it. If you noticed Planetside is better then every now. EQ1 is still fun as hell. EQ2 rules now. Matrix Online isn't as much of a pile of crap. Shesh. I give up. You people will never understand the meaning of a publisher.
If SOE tries fixing SWG then good. Atleast it can become something somewhat fun, but stop hateing on SOE for the game turning to crap.
I suggest you start looking around yourself, there is direct proof even apologies from the devs that got fired for the NGE. SOE is the DEVELOPMENT for SWG not just the PUBLISHER. Wake up and smell the shit covered roses pal, go down with the boat just like the future of SOE I don't care, but I won't stand here listening to you talk up like SOE is god. They screwed their playerbase one too many times, no excuses. Stand up for them all you want, your no better then the cesspool that bares Sony's name. LucasArts only gives directions on how the storyline must fall into place and events that will happen, the machanics is all on SOE.
Why would you make a point to capture it? You would of had to of known in advance that it was going to be deleted. What sign was there that it would be deleted and it needed to be captured? Mods don't announce an impending deletion, you don't get a chance to snag something before it's gone. It shows the thread went on for 3 pages... if it was "caught" and removed, why wait so long?
The intial post was at 2:53 PM. The last post on that page was at 10:09 PM. Seriously? Wouldn't a thread like that have blown up and gotten a thousand replies within hours?
Previous played: SWG (pre-NGE), DAoC, CoH, Anarchy Online, DDO, Champions Online Beta, LOTRO, GW2, SWTOR
Regardless if it comes out or not, there are people who are going to play and people who won't, regardless.
Don't Hate . . . . . . . Just Don't Do it.
The chances of every seeing SWG2 are about the same as me sleeping with Hillary Duff.. It ain't gonna happen no matter how hard you believe ..
I suggest you start looking around yourself, there is direct proof even apologies from the devs that got fired for the NGE. SOE is the DEVELOPMENT for SWG not just the PUBLISHER. Wake up and smell the shit covered roses pal, go down with the boat just like the future of SOE I don't care, but I won't stand here listening to you talk up like SOE is god. They screwed their playerbase one too many times, no excuses. Stand up for them all you want, your no better then the cesspool that bares Sony's name. LucasArts only gives directions on how the storyline must fall into place and events that will happen, the machanics is all on SOE.
/Salute sir yes sir I believe you know it all. To bad you don't in this case. It's ok to cry. I don't believe in them being Gods and I know they've messed up, but stop blameing everything on them. Also LucasArts made the choice for it to turn into a half-assed-fps. It was the "vision" of Starwars and gave more of a Starwars feel to it supposidly. SOE took over development after LucasArts failed to deliver. The game was made just how LA wanted and SOE lost money from it. So SOE took over in an attempt to regain what they lost pre-cu servers etc. Whatever they can do will happen in the future. It's hard to recode a lot of a game in a short period of time while also takeing care of several other games.
You people really need to lay off the SOE hate. I really don't see why you have such personal grudges. If you got burned so damn what. I guess SOE is "out to get you" find another game and move on with your life. You act like SOE ran over your newborn.
Ok Kyle, lets so you're right and LA has had an invisible hand in the development of every aspect of SWG. Lets say there was an intent once the CU was implemented to implement the NGE without giving warning to players. Lets also say that it was all LA's decision to bring out Trials of Obi-Wan right before the launch of the NGE without fore-warning players to the MASSIVE changes that were about to happen, effectivly robbing people and having in small print somewhere that only 5% of the population knew about was a refund for the "ToOW" due to the massive disapointment of the NGE, that was only effective for 2weeks i believe.
Now lets look at $OE's other games they host. I've never played EQ so i can't speak from experince but from my understanding (will find refernce for this) $OE did a real number on EQ with there expansions, constant bugs and lack of any desire to fix said bugs before releasing MORE expansions with MORE bugs and not fixing those.
I'm not going to continue to bring up examples here but look at the track record of $OE. They've cheated, lied, stole, taken our money and time for years in an un-finished and buggy game where no fixes ever came, but people were OK with that. Then they ripped it apart because they wanted to turn it into another cash-cow. The numbers are circling the drain but they refuse to put it out of its misery because they own a lisence to a title that has an over-abundent ammount of fans.
So once again, lets say that LA has a hand in it somewhere... where is the proof and track record saying that they lie, cheat and steal like $OE has?
"And after blizzard takes over the world, they are gonna gather a bunch of lemmings, sit on their fat asses near a cliff, and watch the little fuzzy bastards suicide dive into the ground below. . . . . all just for their own entertainment."
Who knows, SOE blew it with SWG (that could have easily been a WoW sub base with millions of players. Sure they might make another one if they think the could make money and they probably can.
SOE sucks, most of us that have been around mmo´s long enough know that. However there are some people that have not played that many mmo´s and don´t know much about sony´s history or what a good mmo is. Hell we used to have a blast playing UO but to todays standars a game released like that would be free to play and very low pop. Fortunatly for SOE there are ALOT of people that are new to mmo´s so there is still a market for them regardless of how poor or how many customers they screwed over back in the day.
Fact is, if SOE doesn´t clean up thier act as more and more people start realising what a good mmo is then they will be toast. Untill that point there is always a market for a game with as much exposure as SOE games get.
whoa who whoa kyle O.o... i read your 1st post and thought it was sarcastic.. then you defended it and i kind of died a little inside....
It is true that George was behind the project, in the sense that, he endorsed it.
He did not instigate it though, because believe it or not--George Lucas is not, nor ever will be a game Dev!!! you see he's the president of LA, but LA does many many things, they're a branch off of lucas studios(?) fuck they even make mugs...
George is a business man, and an ex-director, he's not a game dev, and has about as much to do with it as he does with making the star wars mugs, he's not a person who does ceremics either.
LA is a co. completely driven on an IP, all they do is hand it out to smaller developers to produce, SoE was the big-boy of MMOs around the time SW:G:C 1st came out, and so they seemed like the right partner... that turned out terribly...
since they're both fairly large corporations, held under even LARGER corporations (the entire lucas franchise, and Sony) they probably have a contract that niether one wants to debunk, because the court battles would be tremendous.
this is presumably why george has SoE's back, while it's slaughtering his baby.
P.S. respond constructively, or not at all, none of that "it's ok to cry" crap. if i'm crying, it's for people like you who spew those kinds of statements
P.S.S. you can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter"
if i use anyother like they fail, even when they work on the "real" "forum".
Why would LA and SOE do the same mistake 2 times.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
I suggest you start looking around yourself, there is direct proof even apologies from the devs that got fired for the NGE. SOE is the DEVELOPMENT for SWG not just the PUBLISHER. Wake up and smell the shit covered roses pal, go down with the boat just like the future of SOE I don't care, but I won't stand here listening to you talk up like SOE is god. They screwed their playerbase one too many times, no excuses. Stand up for them all you want, your no better then the cesspool that bares Sony's name. LucasArts only gives directions on how the storyline must fall into place and events that will happen, the machanics is all on SOE.
/Salute sir yes sir I believe you know it all. To bad you don't in this case. It's ok to cry. I don't believe in them being Gods and I know they've messed up, but stop blameing everything on them. Also LucasArts made the choice for it to turn into a half-assed-fps. It was the "vision" of Starwars and gave more of a Starwars feel to it supposidly. SOE took over development after LucasArts failed to deliver. The game was made just how LA wanted and SOE lost money from it. So SOE took over in an attempt to regain what they lost pre-cu servers etc. Whatever they can do will happen in the future. It's hard to recode a lot of a game in a short period of time while also takeing care of several other games.
You people really need to lay off the SOE hate. I really don't see why you have such personal grudges. If you got burned so damn what. I guess SOE is "out to get you" find another game and move on with your life. You act like SOE ran over your newborn.
I hope SOE is paying you good, because looking like an idiot must be a high price. While your at it write a book for SOE and title it "Lucas Arts did it not us!" a documentry on how the ghosts of christmas past and LA teamed up to destroy the game!
I suggest you start looking around yourself, there is direct proof even apologies from the devs that got fired for the NGE. SOE is the DEVELOPMENT for SWG not just the PUBLISHER. Wake up and smell the shit covered roses pal, go down with the boat just like the future of SOE I don't care, but I won't stand here listening to you talk up like SOE is god. They screwed their playerbase one too many times, no excuses. Stand up for them all you want, your no better then the cesspool that bares Sony's name. LucasArts only gives directions on how the storyline must fall into place and events that will happen, the machanics is all on SOE.
/Salute sir yes sir I believe you know it all. To bad you don't in this case. It's ok to cry. I don't believe in them being Gods and I know they've messed up, but stop blameing everything on them. Also LucasArts made the choice for it to turn into a half-assed-fps. It was the "vision" of Starwars and gave more of a Starwars feel to it supposidly. SOE took over development after LucasArts failed to deliver. The game was made just how LA wanted and SOE lost money from it. So SOE took over in an attempt to regain what they lost pre-cu servers etc. Whatever they can do will happen in the future. It's hard to recode a lot of a game in a short period of time while also takeing care of several other games.
You people really need to lay off the SOE hate. I really don't see why you have such personal grudges. If you got burned so damn what. I guess SOE is "out to get you" find another game and move on with your life. You act like SOE ran over your newborn.
I hope SOE is paying you good, because looking like an idiot must be a high price. While your at it write a book for SOE and title it "Lucas Arts did it not us!" a documentry on how the ghosts of christmas past and LA teamed up to destroy the game!
its an old story, yes SOE were the driving force behind SWG, LA's directive was that the game shouldnt be an EQ in space, though from all the things that have happened to it, it would have probably been better if it had been. scratch that, what they shouldnt have done is progressed beyond publish 9, just fixed the problems, ie, bugs, and adjusted/balanced some of the professions a little better, but, instead they meddled, considering the feedback from the testcenters was highly negative for both the CU and the NGE, you have to wonder exactly why those servers exist
still, i do think that LA should share some of the blame, after all, any changes had to be authorised by them.
Fake.
You people are really stretching for new material, aren't you?
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This is all I can see on the link.
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I thought this was a capture? Could anyone send me a copy paste or something I atleast want to read what the drama is about.