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The DX10 difference

Heres a site that finally has some comparison shots.

Now we can really see what DX10 brings to the game

uk.gamespot.com/features/6164940/index.html

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  • JadarJadar Member Posts: 300

    That's actually more impressive than I would have imagined. There may even be some reasonable priced DX10 card out by the time this game is released. If not the plain old dx9 shots looked more than good enough, better than any MMO I've seen yet.

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  • Looks really nice.

    I'm glad they postponed the game to Oct. I can save up for my new rig while they polish the game. The timing will be perfect.

  • xrebelxrebel Member Posts: 133
    All I can say is...



    I really hope my university starts offering Vista for 45 bucks before I graduate :)

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    Rebellion - 60 Warlock || Kalaa - 60 Warrior
    Littlerebel - 60 Hunter || Albie - 60 Shaman
    Played: Erm, a lot more.

  • Havoc-PKHavoc-PK Member Posts: 118
    Very nice. This game is pretty high on my list, their tech demos are jaw dropping.
  • elvenangelelvenangel Member Posts: 2,205

    While Direct X10 may look better because they program the special effects 'better' (these effects are possible in DX9 but its so damn unwieldy sometimes and most machines that aren't Vista compat can't play them anyway) you still have to

    1. Have a computer that can run Vista (because a 1 gig or less machine thats not a 2.0Ghz or equiv won't cut it and a small hard drive forget it.  Vista uses up more than previous windows especially if you want to use all those nifty gui features they stole from Mac)

    2.  Have a compatible sound card.  Why you ask?  Because Windows Vista (or rather DirectSound 10)does NOT support hardware accelerated sound or EAX, they removed access to the kernall.  So even the most advanced DX9 game would suddenly sound like ass unless you have some sort of onboard sound(which would still sound like ass).  Creative and other sound card companies that use hardware acceleration / EAX are currently working on drivers that would work around this issue but its nearly a year away before we see those solutions.  http://pc.ign.com/articles/759/759538p1.html

    3.  If you use any software or games that aren't "microsoft" approved (meaning any free tool you might download etc) will not be properly loaded onto the system and stunted to some special folder or may not even work at all.

    Its probably safer to get Vista around SP 1 or SP2 I don't care hwo much 'better' Vista is than all previous versions of Windows, there's always someone out there that can point out every port flaw Windows leaves open for hackers to eat at and Microsoft just takes their jim dandy time fixing it.   So far its been considered a smooth ride of a launch despite possible hardware / driver conflicts the usual for new window launches http://gear.ign.com/articles/759/759487p1.html

    While I think the removal of all the bad legacy code by starting over is a great idea I'm still not ready to give Microsoft hundreds of bucks for something brand new that probably needs some time on the market getting cleaned up(Microsoft paid beta just like mmos at launc).  Once I do get it I think im gonna finally buy that additional 2 gigs my system can carry.

    Please Refer to Doom Cat with all conspiracies & evil corporation complaints. He'll give you the simple explination of..WE"RE ALL DOOMED!

  • accppsaccpps Member Posts: 30
    Vista is total trash atm.  Every game tested gets significantly lower FPS on vista than xp/xp64.  Maybe they will get it together by sp1.  open gl > *  maybe MS will learn that one day.
  • sheeshsheesh Member Posts: 330
     While it looks pretty and all, I have a feeling the DX10  version is going to run like absolute crap on the MMO part. I'll just stick with my DX9....
  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by sheesh

     While it looks pretty and all, I have a feeling the DX10  version is going to run like absolute crap on the MMO part. I'll just stick with my DX9....
    Well, they have almost a year to fix the issues with it before this particular game is significantly affected on way or the other. I'm sticking with my old comp myself for a while.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • MaeEyeMaeEye Member UncommonPosts: 1,107
    i REALLY want to play this game, if it still is as good as they say it will be.  But the upgrade I'm not so sure about.  DO I really want to spend hundred of dollars to just play a game?  Right now I have a Geforce 7600GT 256mbs, and 1 gig ram.  But if I want to upgrade to Vista, then I would have to upgrade my GPU (it's a dell computer), get a new graphic card and buy vista along with more ram.



    Jeeeez.  LOL.  I guess we'll see.  I might just upgrade to a higher Dx9 version graphic card.
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  • sheeshsheesh Member Posts: 330
     You don't have to have DX10 and Vista. They're starting out with DX9 then having a downloadable patch with DX10 from what I've heard.
  • MurinelMurinel Member UncommonPosts: 12

    Wery nice look:D

    but what will the graphic cards cost that support DirectX 10??

  • zuz3xzuz3x Member UncommonPosts: 63
    much=/ since DX10 is  relly new thing + you must have  vista for DX10 that cost a bit
  • GindaceGindace Member Posts: 161
    They look great, I can't wait until a game that actually uses it to it's fill capacity (which will most likely be an FPS).



    Age of Conan actually looks pretty good too.
  • zuz3xzuz3x Member UncommonPosts: 63
    Originally posted by Gindace

    They look great, I can't wait until a game that actually uses it to it's fill capacity (which will most likely be an FPS).



    Age of Conan actually looks pretty good too.
    your right first DX10 game is an FPS .. Crysis is name and http://www.fileplanet.com/173530/170000/fileinfo/Crysis---DirectX-10-Trailer

    is trailer
  • cheapherkcheapherk Member Posts: 59
    Originally posted by sheesh

     You don't have to have DX10 and Vista. They're starting out with DX9 then having a downloadable patch with DX10 from what I've heard.
    You are oh, so wrong.



    If you are running Windows XP, you will never have DX10 [period].  You must have Vista and a DX10 video card, like nvidia's 8800 series, to run a DX10 game.



    Yes, it's true, THQ will be releasing a DX10 patch in March for Company of Heroes to enable it to run in DX10.  The bottom line is, you will still have to be running Vista and a DX10 video card.  The DX10 patch is not for XP and will not work on XP- you'll still be playing it in DX9.



    There will be another form of DX called DX9.0L which will run DX10 games, like Crysis, on Windows XP.  You still won't get the benefits of DX10, but you'll be able to play the game.  I guess it's kind of like playing your mp3 player through an FM modulator on your car stereo.  You can listen to the music, but it doesn't sound as good as plugging it directly into your stereo.
  • sheeshsheesh Member Posts: 330

     Uhmmm... Yeah I know you can't have DX10 with XP. I'm sure we're all aware of that.

    I was just saying you don't have to have DX10 to play the game.

  • jeroen84jeroen84 Member Posts: 10
    There will be another form of DX called DX9.0L which will run DX10 games, like Crysis, on Windows XP.  You still won't get the benefits of DX10, but you'll be able to play the game.  I guess it's kind of like playing your mp3 player through an FM modulator on your car stereo.  You can listen to the music, but it doesn't sound as good as plugging it directly into your stereo.



    Actually, Microsoft changed that.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX


    DirectX 9.0 EX[1]     Windows Vista Only. Fomerly called 9.0L. Provides DirectX 9 API for Vista. The Inquirer posted an article on October 16, 2006 stating that 9.0L would be DirectX 10 for Windows XP, but later stated that it was a mistake.

     

    Simply put, DX10 games won't run on DX9 at all.. It won't be compatible anymore since DX10. However, gamedevelopers can ofcourse choose to code their game in a way that it has a DX9 part and DX10 part.

  • comacoma Member Posts: 92

    I once did a shit. I looked, it was better than this pos. all characters I see use feathers on helm? GG funcom you really screw it this time.

  • aristoculousaristoculous Member Posts: 159
    Originally posted by accpps

    Vista is total trash atm.  Every game tested gets significantly lower FPS on vista than xp/xp64.  Maybe they will get it together by sp1.  open gl > *  maybe MS will learn that one day.
    as of 2 or 3 days ago, with ATI's latest drivers, fps is same or 10% slower. I would not say thats significant.

    Plus when u run the game at 40 fps on XP, and on Vista the game will run at 35, you wont notice the difference :P.
  • Veiled_lightVeiled_light Member UncommonPosts: 855
    They made the DX9 version look worse on purpose so people buy DX10.
  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by Veiled_light

    They made the DX9 version look worse on purpose so people buy DX10.
    sure they did, even though the Dx9 screens easily represent the best to be had in that genre, they could have done better.

    No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
    Hemingway

  • TheBeanTheBean Member Posts: 70
    Originally posted by nakedone


    Looks really nice.
    I'm glad they postponed the game to Oct. I can save up for my new rig while they polish the game. The timing will be perfect.

     

    I'm right there with ya on that one... I've had my old comp for way too many years :P I've done a few upgrades over the past but it's time for whole new one! And boy am I excited :D Those shots look nice

  • cptbollockcptbollock Member Posts: 61
    Yeah im getting ready for a new rig,im waiting to see which way to swing with graphics cards for DX10.I ahve got  my eye on AOC and WAR right now,im waiting for system specs from AOC before i start building.
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