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whitesnakeGR
Member Posts: 5
-->an ex-bob member finds out that bob going on vacations (note that he have left bob months ago, even he has quited eve at that time)
-->he is making an alt account, with new characters, with a new e-mail, from a diff ip scope.
-->he is making a post on e-o forums (copy/paste from old post)
Posted - 2006.06.18 22:49:00
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Yup it's true. You can sleep this week without fear.
Molle & a lot of Evol pilots are on Holidays for the week.
Rumours saying that they managed to open a gate to Earth, and are located around Copenhagen.
[:arrow:]after few days, dafuzz pm him on irc and ask him (my friend) if he knows in real life the pesron that has made the post, giving him the real life registered name and info
The question is simple, how did daffuz knew about the real name behind the account, and who is searching account databases and giving out info?
I really admire bob, and honestly they are so good that they dont need to use lame tactics and use every advantage they have especially out-of-game.
Maybe sirmole, kieron, and dunno who else need to work together and get rid of the "bad" apples that giving bob the bad name, becouse it is obvious that several bob members do what ever it takes in order to hit the "win button", ruining the eve community.
CCP must look into it or else will end up playing eve with alt-devs-gm players and his friends. Is that what you have dreamed about eve?
Since I am playing eve since beta, have seen lot, heard lot.
@ and said what happening behide the scenes.
this have been posted on e-o forums and moderated/locked in 2 mins,
Nice one CCP, freedom of speech.
Comments
What Whitesnake says is true.I have dbl checked it too.It is really sad to spoil such a good game and ppl not to
know the truth.Devs to help specific alliance (BoB) and then saying lies to ppl or ruining ppl's fun when other
alliances try to fight BoB alliance.Talk is cheap and it will take a super long post to write all the things that CCP did.
It isnt only the devs that ruin the game with their acts ingame but microminers too.Loads of accounts that
mine with 3rd party programs and selling ore at market.Ofc there r ebay ppl too ingame
You may say that all games have ppl playing for selling ingame money at ebay but if that was only the problem
we would be happy.This company needs to stop acting like she is having a game where low IQ ppl play.We
dont have low IQ and we will continue posting when new things happen and ofc all these while our accounts
r active.
Adjoint.
So a 1 post alt makes an unintelligible post about nobody can tell what. A short time later another 1 post alt magically appears and makes an equaly opaque post claiming to have somehow made some sense of the gobbeldy-gook deposited by the first? Riiiiight.
Yes, we are also friends, also flying together sometimes in eve
Also there are some other greeks, that live in athens too, playing eve, but they didnt want to post replies couse dont care much. or they dont believe that wil make any difference.
Dont believe me, after all is not that important, but can you spare some time and take a look at this url, and reply to this post?
you can find pictures, chatlogs, mails, forum posts etc
http://www.kugutsumen.com/
also if you dont take me seriously, Kieron (ccp's headquorters) is investigating those issues, and we all expecting his answers
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=471868
Every day we are quite a lot in MSN talking. So it's normal if someone write a post the others read it and answer.
Regarding the original post, Whitesnake is reffering to me.
And there are a dozen of occations known to me that devs helped BOB with info, enough to make them what they are in the game.
I don't know who at CCP's public relations department decided a "black blanket" policy would be the best way to come out of this mess but I think it is slowly starting to backfire quite heavily.
Since this site is very much geared towards EVE favouritism I would say that the OP posted where it could most likely reach most of those who could actually put pressure on CCP, ie the current gamers.
It is just important that the gamers doesn't willingly put on the blindfold they are handed by CCP and instead demand some straight answers as well as some policy changes to rectify this situation for the future. Complete transparency.
Otherwise you're heading towards a community that could become extremely poisonous and suspicious of one another. And I'm not talking about in-game, in-character suspicion but real life suspicion. And that cannot make a game any better in my view.
The problem is that the because of the CCP's move to delete and hide under the rung everything, the majority of the EVE players don't know anything about Kieron's message.
How can you honestly believe that? Such ignorance must be painful... BoB is powerful in EVE because they have played longer and are more dedicated and organized than anyone else. No amount of "info" has made BoB powerful, their skill and dedication has. As soon as some other group of players puts in as much organization and dedication as BoB does I'm sure you'll see the tables turn. So far no one has done that.
So what information did they get? How did the get it? and more inportantly could YOU have gotten it by asking your self?
And I don't blame them for locking all threads on this topic. every tom, dick, and harry who didn't like BoB could make any accusation they want with out any real justification. Add on top of that the group that will assume guilt and scream it until they die regardless of what CCP will says and does.
I look at these forums and see how many of them post something close to facts. The one post pictures from a "hacked" forum and NEVER posts the inside of a thread. I have to question first person accounts of stuff since in a lot of cases you don't get the full story. I know a GM gave one of my corp members a T2 BPO. Guess that GM should be fired..... if it wasn't for the fact he was replacing one that got destroyed due to a Manufacturing bug.
Give me good evidence that I should get behind you and I'll at least start to think about it a little more seriously.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=473335
Hellmar admited that a gm "got" few t2 bpos,
FYI that gm was in Evolution, and gave the bpos to the corp, sir mole replied that he was glad about that nice t2 bpo collection, also is the very same person that was leading the bob's capital fleet.
If that gm (ccp named him as t20) cheat and got a collection of t2 bpos, are u sure that he didnt used any tool that he had (as gm) in order to succed in his ingame career?
Accusations become true, ccp admited, gm removed, BoB was cheating in many occasions, what else do u need?
Believe random posts by bob haters
or
Believe CCP when they say the GM's involved have been forced to delete their 3+ year old accounts and never did anything more 'wrong' than allowing their identities to be revealed.
Me? I'll take option B over the conspiracy theories all day long.
"A ship-of-war is the best ambassador." - Oliver Cromwell
most of BoB are good, the ones that ruin bob's name/reputaion and violating EULA must be removed / punished / banned. In my opinion the CEOS/directors should have kicked those "bad apples" in a first place and not favorite them.
Its not about love or hate, if u cheat u ruin the game
m0o where great, (jurasic period), they have never accused of cheating, and where pretty famous and had lot of haters (no need to mention other old high pvp skilled corps that were playing fair game).
The eve community asking for clean and fair game.
nuff said couse lots of people dont seem to understand what is all about.
http://myeve.eve-online.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=473335&page=1