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Packs up, moves on...

I beta'd V:SoH for a month, did my part with the bug reporting and trying to help improve the game...

I bought the $50 box, payed my $15 to the evil empire, patched for an hour...

I bought a new video card and more ram for my desktop machine as my go7800GT based laptop was slide-showing all the time...

Tried to play for a few days and got nothing but buggy quests, crashing servers, and CTDs so I put it away and decided to go do something else for a few days and come back to it...

I came back and have been beat silly with the nerf bat but the game is *still* buggy, crashing, disconnecting and runs like a slideshow... But now its *harder*.

Nice...

 

Sorry guys, I'm done. I learned my lesson from SWG and I'm just not investing that kind of time in another bug-ridden SoE property just to have the game pulled out from under me in a few months.

See y'all in LoTR/WAR/Conan/whatever.

 

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  • nauttymalunauttymalu Member Posts: 5
    Dont blame you. Most MMO players just dont want to put up with the beta testing after release, and after you invest countless hours of time they might just take the game in a whole new direction and it wont be to your liking.  I gave up as well after the nerf, if they are ready to make such harsh changes right at release i wonder what they have in plan later.
  • StoneysilencStoneysilenc Member Posts: 369
    You should still be in the free month so you shouldn't have paid anything more than the $50 box fee.

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  • starman999starman999 Member Posts: 1,232

    Anarchy Online made these same mistakes..........

    When it released it still had tons of bugs and was relatively unplayable. After quite some time they improved all of that and it became a really great game unfortunately by the time they got it all worked out much of the player base had already moved on to other games.

    Its true that you only get one chance to make a first impression. Its a shame to see this game blowing theirs. If we learn anything from blizzard it is to have a polished product before it releases and hook the players early.

    I hope LOTRO fairs better at launch than VG has.

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  • RagTagRagTag Member Posts: 8

    Were any of you people playing WOW at release. For christ sakes it did not have a perfect release either. I am not playing either WOW or V:SOH right now, but I had to come here and point out all the dumb things people keep saying about WOW and all its greatsness at release.

    Makes me wonder...

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  • anarchyartanarchyart Member Posts: 5,378
    Originally posted by Rihahn


    I beta'd V:SoH for a month, did my part with the bug reporting and trying to help improve the game...
    I bought the $50 box, payed my $15 to the evil empire, patched for an hour...
    I bought a new video card and more ram for my desktop machine as my go7800GT based laptop was slide-showing all the time...
    Tried to play for a few days and got nothing but buggy quests, crashing servers, and CTDs so I put it away and decided to go do something else for a few days and come back to it...
    I came back and have been beat silly with the nerf bat but the game is *still* buggy, crashing, disconnecting and runs like a slideshow... But now its *harder*.
    Nice...
     
    Sorry guys, I'm done. I learned my lesson from SWG and I'm just not investing that kind of time in another bug-ridden SoE property just to have the game pulled out from under me in a few months.
    See y'all in LoTR/WAR/Conan/whatever.
     

    Playing on a laptop? That's a shame.

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  • ArcheusCrossArcheusCross Member Posts: 793
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Rihahn


    I beta'd V:SoH for a month, did my part with the bug reporting and trying to help improve the game...
    I bought the $50 box, payed my $15 to the evil empire, patched for an hour...
    I bought a new video card and more ram for my desktop machine as my go7800GT based laptop was slide-showing all the time...
    Tried to play for a few days and got nothing but buggy quests, crashing servers, and CTDs so I put it away and decided to go do something else for a few days and come back to it...
    I came back and have been beat silly with the nerf bat but the game is *still* buggy, crashing, disconnecting and runs like a slideshow... But now its *harder*.
    Nice...
     
    Sorry guys, I'm done. I learned my lesson from SWG and I'm just not investing that kind of time in another bug-ridden SoE property just to have the game pulled out from under me in a few months.
    See y'all in LoTR/WAR/Conan/whatever.
     

    Playing on a laptop? That's a shame.



    Hmm but he did try it on his desktop.... and had issue... ya man i don't really blame the op.

     

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  • FignarFignar Member CommonPosts: 417
    Originally posted by anarchyart

    Originally posted by Rihahn


    I beta'd V:SoH for a month, did my part with the bug reporting and trying to help improve the game...
    I bought the $50 box, payed my $15 to the evil empire, patched for an hour...
    I bought a new video card and more ram for my desktop machine as my go7800GT based laptop was slide-showing all the time...
    Tried to play for a few days and got nothing but buggy quests, crashing servers, and CTDs so I put it away and decided to go do something else for a few days and come back to it...
    I came back and have been beat silly with the nerf bat but the game is *still* buggy, crashing, disconnecting and runs like a slideshow... But now its *harder*.
    Nice...
     
    Sorry guys, I'm done. I learned my lesson from SWG and I'm just not investing that kind of time in another bug-ridden SoE property just to have the game pulled out from under me in a few months.
    See y'all in LoTR/WAR/Conan/whatever.
     

    Playing on a laptop? That's a shame.


    I take it you don't realise some laptops are more powerfull gaming machines then alot of peoples current desktops.

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  • nynnivanynniva Member UncommonPosts: 235

    Performance aside, even the vanbois will have to admit that this game was not ready for launch. Its common knowledge . The game is not ready for an official release. Its a mess. Its a great game, still. Its fun, its involving - but it has its problems, problems we are paying them to help them solve. In all honesty, we paid our 50$ for the software. I don't think they should be charging us a monthly fee on top of that until they have a working product. But you know, it will never happen because we have been trained to accept mediocrity from game developers. As long as people pay, they will keep asking for money. Give it a few months, it will either a) get off the ground and be the wonderful game it has the potential to be or b) flop, and you'll be able to get a free software download and a free trial soon enough.

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  • Gangster-ManGangster-Man Member Posts: 143
    in over 150 quests, only 1 was bugged (damn you anelippe! Gimme your journal you dead sob) and i just went right past it. Look you got thousands of players in the game with quests workign against like a dozen who post on these forums saying that a quest bugged, lif eis over, and someone cast meteor 3 on his head. Thats just lazy when you don't even try to have fun in a game, especially when the game hands it to you in a silver platter.
  • RihahnRihahn Member Posts: 146
    Originally posted by Stoneysilenc

    You should still be in the free month so you shouldn't have paid anything more than the $50 box fee.
    You'd think that, but SoE only gives the free 30 days to "new" accounts. As I already had an account from my SWG days, I was billed immediately for V:SoH.
  • nynnivanynniva Member UncommonPosts: 235

    Yes, myself also.
    Sneaky, no?

    Gaming? That's not gaming!
    That's just people sat 'round in costumes drinking...

  • RihahnRihahn Member Posts: 146
    Originally posted by anarchyart


    Playing on a laptop? That's a shame.




    Yeah, real shame... Core 2 Duo 2.4, 2 gigs of ram, go7800GT, 1620x1200 17" screen, 2 - 100G SATA HDs. It's such a pitty to have that as my lan-party machine, with all the portability and not having to haul the keyboard, mouse, and monitor all the time.

    Sucks to be me.

  • smg77smg77 Member Posts: 672
    Originally posted by Rihahn

    Originally posted by Stoneysilenc

    You should still be in the free month so you shouldn't have paid anything more than the $50 box fee.
    You'd think that, but SoE only gives the free 30 days to "new" accounts. As I already had an account from my SWG days, I was billed immediately for V:SoH.

    Typical SOE--squeeze every last penny out of their customers before they force them to quit.
  • billp89014billp89014 Member Posts: 29
    Yup. same here, i canceled my account a couple days ago. If they fix this game before something else better comes along i might come back.
  • ThalosVipavThalosVipav Member Posts: 273

    I too was in SWG. I didn't get charged for my first month of Vanguard. Make sure you got charged and are not just assuming you did cause you had to enter CC information right away.

    oh, and before you ask, Yes I did use my same station name from SWG

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  • NevarionNevarion Member Posts: 274
    Originally posted by Rihahn

    Originally posted by Stoneysilenc

    You should still be in the free month so you shouldn't have paid anything more than the $50 box fee.
    You'd think that, but SoE only gives the free 30 days to "new" accounts. As I already had an account from my SWG days, I was billed immediately for V:SoH. Isn't it normally the way that you got a game time included in the box then you buy it?

    Shouldn't matter if you had a station account already... that's really astonishing and quite lame from $OE side.



    Hope it's just a mistake. Although doesn't look like, yeah.
  • CelestianCelestian Member UncommonPosts: 1,136


    Originally posted by Rihahn

    Sorry guys, I'm done. I learned my lesson from SWG and I'm just not investing that kind of time in another bug-ridden SoE property just to have the game pulled out from under me in a few months.
    See y'all in LoTR/WAR/Conan/whatever.

    I don't blame you for quitting, sounds like it was a horrible game for ya but the problem is not SoE's fault. They did not write the thing, they just slapped it in a box and shipped it out. That fault goes squarely on Brad and Sigil.

    Now if Brad sells the game to SoE and they don't fix it then you can blame them.

  • brokenneedlebrokenneedle Member Posts: 100
    Originally posted by RagTag


    Were any of you people playing WOW at release. For christ sakes it did not have a perfect release either. I am not playing either WOW or V:SOH right now, but I had to come here and point out all the dumb things people keep saying about WOW and all its greatsness at release.
    Makes me wonder...
    I was playing WoW the first week of release and I remember it being a fairly flawless affair.  Maybe a couple of months into it there started to be issues with lag and ques as the populations grew , but the start was cool.

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  • TimberhickTimberhick Member UncommonPosts: 554
    This is why I never buy a game at launch and/or buy from SoE.
  • RihahnRihahn Member Posts: 146
    Originally posted by Gangster-Man

    in over 150 quests, only 1 was bugged (damn you anelippe! Gimme your journal you dead sob) and i just went right past it. Look you got thousands of players in the game with quests workign against like a dozen who post on these forums saying that a quest bugged, lif eis over, and someone cast meteor 3 on his head. Thats just lazy when you don't even try to have fun in a game, especially when the game hands it to you in a silver platter.



    The first two days I played some class quests were even broken - in addition to about 1 out of 5 reqular quests having some kind of issue. Since then, yes, they have fixed an awful lot, which is why I said "buggy" rather than "the quests are still buggy".

    While they fixed the quests the game still crashes on me, the performance is very sub-par, MOBs still vanish without a trace, changing chunks still takes forever, the animations still randomly start and stop, you still take damage from MOBs you can't see for 10-15 seconds as they 'rez' in, itemization is still wonky, quest texts and details are still sub-par, the night cycle still sucks, grouping is still buggy, the game still comes to a standstill when more than 5 people are in one place, NPCs are still static, doors are still buggy, positional combat is still a pipedream...

    But rather than fixing any of this, they took the time to beat everyone with the nerf bat to keep them from levelling so fast. My theory is they *needed* to do this to keep everyone from piling up at the doors to the content they haven't finished yet.

    Sorry, but you and the 'thousands of players' you mention can pay your monthly fee for a broken game. I still own it, and much like EQ2 I'll probably come back and play it in a few years when it is 'finished' by my standards.

  • RihahnRihahn Member Posts: 146
    Originally posted by Timberhick

    This is why I never buy a game at launch and/or buy from SoE.



    The game has such promise though, just really poor execution.

    It's like watching a buch of chimps work on a Ferrari - there's a lot of potential in the car, but the monkeys are pooring sand in the intake and even though you're not a mecahnic, you just know that's not good for the car and you probably shouldn't be making monthly payments on it.

    Again, much like EQ2, I bought the box figuring that someday the game will be GM and with a few hours of patching I'll be able to play it.

  • RihahnRihahn Member Posts: 146
    Originally posted by ThalosVipav


    I too was in SWG. I didn't get charged for my first month of Vanguard. Make sure you got charged and are not just assuming you did cause you had to enter CC information right away.
    oh, and before you ask, Yes I did use my same station name from SWG



    Yeah, I checked and there is a charge from SOE for the monthly. I was told that it even says in the game manual that the free 30 days is for "new station accounts only".

    Maybe they've fixed that since launch... Hopefully.

  • AmatheAmathe Member LegendaryPosts: 7,630
    Originally posted by RagTag


    Were any of you people playing WOW at release.



    I was. Yes, there were problems. But it was a different type of problem. There were server stability/access issues caused by the fact that a TON more people were playing it than could ever reasonably have been anticipated given the history of the market to that date. Assuedly Vanguard does not, and never will have, that problem.

    It was not, however, a content light, underinvented, buggy, half baked pos.

    Btw, BC has launched and I have encountered one bug from level 60 to 70.

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  • Gangster-ManGangster-Man Member Posts: 143
    Originally posted by Rihahn

    Originally posted by Gangster-Man

    in over 150 quests, only 1 was bugged (damn you anelippe! Gimme your journal you dead sob) and i just went right past it. Look you got thousands of players in the game with quests workign against like a dozen who post on these forums saying that a quest bugged, lif eis over, and someone cast meteor 3 on his head. Thats just lazy when you don't even try to have fun in a game, especially when the game hands it to you in a silver platter.



    The first two days I played some class quests were even broken - in addition to about 1 out of 5 reqular quests having some kind of issue. Since then, yes, they have fixed an awful lot, which is why I said "buggy" rather than "the quests are still buggy".

    While they fixed the quests the game still crashes on me, the performance is very sub-par, MOBs still vanish without a trace, changing chunks still takes forever, the animations still randomly start and stop, you still take damage from MOBs you can't see for 10-15 seconds as they 'rez' in, itemization is still wonky, quest texts and details are still sub-par, the night cycle still sucks, grouping is still buggy, the game still comes to a standstill when more than 5 people are in one place, NPCs are still static, doors are still buggy, positional combat is still a pipedream...

    But rather than fixing any of this, they took the time to beat everyone with the nerf bat to keep them from levelling so fast. My theory is they *needed* to do this to keep everyone from piling up at the doors to the content they haven't finished yet.

    Sorry, but you and the 'thousands of players' you mention can pay your monthly fee for a broken game. I still own it, and much like EQ2 I'll probably come back and play it in a few years when it is 'finished' by my standards.


    its your opinion thats its broken, and It wouldn't make sense to saying its broken if people still play and make their way to lvl 20+, complete over a thousand quests, etc. Your deffinition of broken is clearly different from eveyrone else's. And by your "standards" we will have damn unicorns with pigs on them by the time its finished, by your standards.
  • NineSpineNineSpine Member Posts: 54
    Originally posted by brokenneedle

    Originally posted by RagTag


    Were any of you people playing WOW at release. For christ sakes it did not have a perfect release either. I am not playing either WOW or V:SOH right now, but I had to come here and point out all the dumb things people keep saying about WOW and all its greatsness at release.
    Makes me wonder...
    I was playing WoW the first week of release and I remember it being a fairly flawless affair.  Maybe a couple of months into it there started to be issues with lag and ques as the populations grew , but the start was cool.

    HAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA



    You're kidding right?



    Half the servers were down more often than up for the first 2 - 3 weeks. The game barely worked.
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