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Thinking about purchasing EQ2..

Decun2001Decun2001 Member Posts: 4
Hey guys just was curious on your feelings about the game.  I played it quite a long time ago on a friends accounts to the mid teens, stopped playing it (honestly can't remember why its been that long)..  I used to LOVE EQ the original..  That was my first and best MMO I have played... 

  Is the game worth getting?  Is the expansions worth getting as well? I heard the newest expansion includes the other expansion as well as the full game of EQ2..   Can I expect a good community with the kind of experiences and amount of fun I had with the first one? Will Groups be a problem finding?  How is the pvp? 

  Atm I am currently playing Guild Wars.. I love the game and all, but it lacks to me the amount of rpg element in improvement.. It has a max line and its very low (no I do not care abou tthe levels, but hte item system ability system etc etc)..   Its great for pvp and it their strength, but pve does get hindered in enjoyment at times with this borderline that can't be crossed.

Another question is how are the Necromancer, Monk and Berserker.. Those bar none were my favorite classes in the original how do they compare now?  Does the game still have the unique and rememberable enviroments EQ1 had?  Are there randomized dungeons like the original EQ had with LDON??  I would appreciate any feedback be it positive or negative about the game, it usually takes me awhile to know when I am sure about the game..

The MMO's I have played in the past are WoW (for quite awhile, then quit in disgust), Original EQ, FFXI (dead community had trouble finding groups), Guild Wars (great game but the low borderline for imrpovement bothers me a ton specially when it comes to items)....

 

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  • ab29xab29x Member Posts: 364
    Originally posted by Decun2001

    Hey guys just was curious on your feelings about the game.  I played it quite a long time ago on a friends accounts to the mid teens, stopped playing it (honestly can't remember why its been that long)..  I used to LOVE EQ the original..  That was my first and best MMO I have played... 
      Is the game worth getting?  Is the expansions worth getting as well? I heard the newest expansion includes the other expansion as well as the full game of EQ2..   Can I expect a good community with the kind of experiences and amount of fun I had with the first one? Will Groups be a problem finding?  How is the pvp? 
      Atm I am currently playing Guild Wars.. I love the game and all, but it lacks to me the amount of rpg element in improvement.. It has a max line and its very low (no I do not care abou tthe levels, but hte item system ability system etc etc)..   Its great for pvp and it their strength, but pve does get hindered in enjoyment at times with this borderline that can't be crossed.
    Another question is how are the Necromancer, Monk and Berserker.. Those bar none were my favorite classes in the original how do they compare now?  Does the game still have the unique and rememberable enviroments EQ1 had?  Are there randomized dungeons like the original EQ had with LDON??  I would appreciate any feedback be it positive or negative about the game, it usually takes me awhile to know when I am sure about the game..
    The MMO's I have played in the past are WoW (for quite awhile, then quit in disgust), Original EQ, FFXI (dead community had trouble finding groups), Guild Wars (great game but the low borderline for imrpovement bothers me a ton specially when it comes to items)....
     

    The game worth getting is subject to opinion.  There will be people that will argue its worth getting.  I personally think it is.  I keep coming back to this game.  

    I left EQ after the third expansion so randomized dungeons are something I did not see.  But no, they have solo instances, group instances and public dungeons when fill up, turn into multiple instances.

    PVP? Necro isn't a bad choice.  Bruiser better than monk, and I played a bezerker for a while, found myself not able to keep anybody around long enough for me to kill them.  You can escape a bezerker really easily at earlier levels.  

    If I were you, I'd research which char you really wanna play,  Roll on the nagafen PVP server because its fun. (Sometimes frustrating) but fun all the same.   If you have any questions.  Hit me up on Nihilist or Grey on there.  Im a Freeporter.

    Oh yeah, groups aren't really an issue, seems fine.  Lots of different facets to the PVP servers, played an entirely different way.



  • Decun2001Decun2001 Member Posts: 4

     

    Any other suggestions, comments, etc about the game positive or negative and whether I should purchase it would be greatly appreciated..

    Thank you...

  • FlemFlem Member UncommonPosts: 2,870
    Originally posted by Decun2001


     Is the game worth getting? 
    IMO, yes it is
    Is the expansions worth getting as well? I heard the newest expansion includes the other expansion as well as the full game of EQ2.
    You heard right, so getting the last expansion (EoF) would be the way to go.
    Can I expect a good community with the kind of experiences and amount of fun I had with the first one? Will Groups be a problem finding? 
    I can only speak for my server (Permafrost), but the community there is great, friendly, helpful and mature.  Getting groups there arent a problem most of the time.
    How is the pvp?
     Haven't tried PvP so cant help there.
    Another question is how are the Necromancer, Monk and Berserker.. Those bar none were my favorite classes in the original how do they compare now? 
    I play a Zerker and love it.  They can tank, DPS, solo, you name it they can do it.  Necro's and Monks im not sure on as i haven't tried them although i have a Bruiser (evil monk) who kicks ass too.
    Does the game still have the unique and rememberable enviroments EQ1 had? 
    Yes, with a bit of destruction here and there since the moon exploded.  Some places have been taken over by baddies such as Felwithe, Rivervale.  But you will find some old favorites such as Blackburrow, Greater & Lesser Faydark, Butcherblock, Lavastorm and more
     
    If your after something that has a lot of content and always something to do with a multitude of quests ranging from basic kill tasks to epic multi part questing then i would give EQ2 a try. 
    Additionally if you like to craft then IMO EQ2 has the best tradeskilling i have come across.
     
  • Seeker728Seeker728 Member UncommonPosts: 179

      Is the game worth getting?  Is the expansions worth getting as well? I heard the newest expansion includes the other expansion as well as the full game of EQ2..   Can I expect a good community with the kind of experiences and amount of fun I had with the first one? Will Groups be a problem finding?  How is the pvp? 

    I personally think that EQ2 is a good game.  I bought Echoes of Faydwer and found the content quite enjoyable, but I did cancel my subscription after leveling 3 different characters to their 30s.  I'll state why further down.

      Atm I am currently playing Guild Wars.. I love the game and all, but it lacks to me the amount of rpg element in improvement.. It has a max line and its very low (no I do not care abou tthe levels, but hte item system ability system etc etc)..   Its great for pvp and it their strength, but pve does get hindered in enjoyment at times with this borderline that can't be crossed.

    Unfortunately, I don't know anything about GW, I've often wanted to try it out, but time constraints prohibit me from doing so, which means I can't offer you any sort of constructive comparison unfortunately

    Another question is how are the Necromancer, Monk and Berserker.. Those bar none were my favorite classes in the original how do they compare now?  Does the game still have the unique and rememberable enviroments EQ1 had?  Are there randomized dungeons like the original EQ had with LDON??  I would appreciate any feedback be it positive or negative about the game, it usually takes me awhile to know when I am sure about the game..

    Here I can offer you some info, having played a variety of characters, and those 3 being the ones i leveled the most.  The Necro is a fantastic character class, as is his opposite the Conjurer.  The differance is that Necros are broader in utility as a pet class, but their damage tends to focus on single targets more.  Necros are both very solo and group friendly, with the Conjurer having more AoE effects to toss around.  I played both, but found the Necro's versatility very engaging.  Monks and Bruisers are very simliar, their differances cater to playstyles more than any real performance differances.  i preferred the Bruiser over the Monk myself, but that was due to a RP standpoint.  Berzerkers can be a lot of fun, but EoF introduced some problems for armor wearers, damage mitigation seemed really screwy when I looked at the differances between my 3 main characters, it might be different at higher levels, but it seemed like my Bruiser could take more of a beating than my Berserker could.  That said, Berserkers are good group characters, and all classes can solo effectively, but I found my Bruiser and Necro to be noticeably more efficient at it.

    The MMO's I have played in the past are WoW (for quite awhile, then quit in disgust), Original EQ, FFXI (dead community had trouble finding groups), Guild Wars (great game but the low borderline for imrpovement bothers me a ton specially when it comes to items)....

    I'm back at WoW myself.  TBC has addressed a good many of my issues with the game, and while it's not a ideal MMOG, it does serve up what I enjoy the most, a solid solo platform to go hand in hand with group play, and plenty of PvP.  It's the lack of PvP that made me leave EQ2.  While many will say just play on the PvP servers and I'd be set, that's hardly the case.  PvP on those servers is a matter of ganking, i.e. either roving bands of the opposing faction just pounce on anything in their way with superior numbers or stealthed characters ambushing you.  And the classes aren't very (IMHO) well balanced for PvP play, they are ok at it, but the game is clearly a PvE game that has PvP code shoved/tacked onto it to address a niche. 

    The other thing that nudged me away was the community.  It's not a bad community mind you, but it is very cliqueish (at least on the two servers I played on).  My playtimes are not very regular, juggling work along with other interests, makes it a hit/miss sort of thing for me (hence why I require a game to give me solid solo options-which btw, EQ2 does do).  So my time in the 5 guilds I participated in met with very limited enjoyment, with the most frequent complaint about me being that I wasn't regularly available.  Also, don't bring up other games in any chat channels, EQ2 players are *very* loyal to their game, and will tend to react with a definite hostility to anything that suggests other games have any sort of worthwhile virtues to them.

    I gave it a good 3 months worth of play, again, I think it's a good game, and I think it has a lot of depth and is very player friendly, but for my tastes and time allotment, WoW gave me more of what I wanted more of.  I personally suggest you give it a trial run and see what you think.  Be warned though, you won't be able to install it and run it in anything amounting to a short time.  There is a huge amount of patches to download.  You're looking at least at 6 hours worth of patch downloads to be current.

     

    Even peace may be purchased at too high a price, and the only time you are completely safe is when you lie in the grave.

  • NecianNecian Member Posts: 73
    Let's see... where to begin. For starters, I haven't played WoW or the original EQ, so I don't really know how EQ2 stands in comparison. I do know my girlfriend played EQ1 and had a lot of fun with it, and that she liked EQ2 also, even though it's very much not the same game as the original.



    1) Is the game worth getting?



    Yeah, I would say it probably is. At $40 if you're starting out, getting the original EQ2 and all three expansions, it's a fantastic deal. There's a lot of places for you level up and an insane amount of quests to be done (if you like questing), and a ton of places to grind to your heart's content (if you're more inclined to grind). So the price tag definitely helps it out for starting players. You could easily play for a year without likely seeing everything in the game, which is nice, since there's always something new to explore. I recently read something online that stated that there are still raid zones in EoF that have yet to be discovered by anyone, which is pretty cool, I think.



    2) Are the expansions worth getting?



    I would say if you just got the original game you would be very much disappointed at this point. The expansions all have more lush environments than the original content, and most of the players spend their time in the newer areas, I would wager. The members of my guild that I still talk to play mostly in the EoF areas now, because they're new. Not that I think the original content is bad or anything, but compared to the new areas, the old ones are a bit blander. They still look pretty, in my opinion. But with the EoF box bringing you all the expansions and the original game it's easy to get them (and that answers the 3rd question).



    4) Can you expect a good community?



    Yes, I think that, in general, the community is very good. I played on the Antonia Bayle RP server, and knew lots of very nice people, many of whom I became friends with. I did a majority of my playing on weekend mornings early, and met many people from Europe and Australia who were really cool. The Qeynos Crafting chat channel was always fun to talk to, though for some reason the Freeport channel was always dead silent. The AB folks are extremely helpful and nice. I did run across a few people who were jerks, but the amount of nice folks definitely outweighed the people out to ruin your fun. I think I probably only came across 2 or 3 jerks in the year and a half I played.



    5)Can you expect the kind of experience and amount of fun you had with EQ1?



    Well, like I stated above, I didn't play EQ1, so I can't answer this very well. However, EQ2's fun is really what you make of it. If you want to solo grind yourself to 70 fast, you can do it (with enough time on your hands). If you love quests and prefer to level up by doing them, there are ample amounts of them to do. I've actually considered turning off combat experience just to do quests, and likely may take that approach if/when I come back to the game.

    If you like long, epic strings of quests, there are some of those for you too, though most are in the upper 40's, 50's, and 60's (prismatic 1, godkind questline, and qeynos claymore). I did the Godking questline, up til the final boss which I could never create a raid for, and found it to be a rich storyline worth all the time and effort it took to get through it. If you just want to explore, there are lots of places to visit and see as you work your way up in levels. I recall my first visit to the Feerott being a fun, and very scary, experience. Almost every new area I stepped into in the game left me a little more impressed I think, just because many areas were so completely different than I expected.

    And finally, if you'd rather sit and create food or items, then you can do that to your hearts content. I personally greatly loved the crafting system, although it did get hard to be a carpenter in my 50's, and would suggest at least trying it out. The new crafting changes made before EoF came out made it a lot easier and quicker to create items, and you actually have to do something while you craft, which makes it a little more interesting than say, FFXI's crafting system (which I thought was a total waste of time).

    I don't know if this answers your question or not, but I hope it does.



    6) Will finding a group be a problem?



    In one word-no. Players can have, I believe 4 characters (might be more, I can't honestly remember) on an account, and hardcore players have paid for more than the maximum and level all the time. It's pretty easy to get into a group, or was on AB, and the level-specific chat channels help you find people faster than searching for folks. Some times it can be a little challenging to find groups when people are mostly sleeping, but these times are relatively small. Also any of your guildmates or higher level friends can always mentor you which drops their level to yours and gives you  a small percentage of exp gain (1 mentor=+5%, 2 mentors= +9%, 3 = +12%, 4 = +14%, and 5 =+15%). When my girlfriend started playing, I used my bruiser and mentored her until she caught up to me in levels, as did a few of my guildmates when we needed more than 2 people to help us.



    7) How is the PvP?



    Never tried it, so I can't really say. I did play some hero battles in the arena that were pretty amusing, but only 1 on 1 fights that usually were very lopsided. If I come back again, I'll likely try making a pvp character just to see what it's like, though I haven't heard much in the way of good things about the pvp servers.



    All that being said... if you like PvP, guild wars is probably going to stay more interesting for you. I liked the look of the huge battles available in the Factions expansion. Though I can't really say much of the PvP in EQ2, it could be rewarding if there aren't as many gankers as it sounds like there are (though I've heard other PvP games have exactly the same problem). If there's actual roleplaying on the RP PvP server that could be a pretty fun thing too, since you could act out the "war" between Qeynos and Freeport in more of a way than you can in the PvE servers. I agree with you though, the lvl 20 cap on GW is kind of frustrating, though it does present a nice balance for team in PvP. You dn't have to worry about folks being 20 levels higher than you coming and kicking your butt.



    But back to more EQ2 questions--

    Necromancers are great solo characters, great group support characters (they get a rez spell at some point which came in handy for me, even without being a necro), and they can kick  a lot of butt. I never felt inclined to try them though, as I'm not a big fan of pets. I did know several necros though, and they all thoroughly enjoyed the job. I did play a conjurer, but after soloing for 20 levels or so I got bored and deleted her.

    Monks are decent soloers, crappy tanks for the most part unless they have an extremely high avoidance, and fantastic damage dealers. I played a bruiser to 44, and had lots of fun with it, and the monk class is pretty similar. Feign death abilities are great for when you get screwed or your group tanks it and you have a rez token to raise your healer. If you like up-close, personal fighting and ability to dodge a lot of attacks, monk/bruiser is a great class.

    Berserker- Good tank, better damage dealer, I always thought. If you want to be a great tank, go with guardian, they have a slight edge. If you want versatility, go berserker.

    strangely though, I never played any of these three classes. I had a templar, bruiser, wizard, swashbuckler, and a shadowknight. All were pretty fun, but I loved my templar the most



    I'll put in a final word here-- I've quit playing EQ2 twice now. Both times because I started to feel kind of bored with the gameplay, and then 4 or 5 months later, I start getting the craving to play it again. I don't know why I feel like it's more worthwhile than other games, per se. I did have a lot of fun with it both times, though I had more the 2nd time around. My guild was always a lot of fun people bent on helping each other out which definitely made it a lot easier to enjoy. And again I find myself wanting to go back, to get the EoF expansion, and see what areas of Norrath I'm missing out on. I think that I'm just the sort that needs a break after playing something for so long, and after I've had a sufficient break, I want to come back and check things out.



    Hopefully this novel I've written helps you out. I think if you're looking for a game with a diverse and rich amount of content, EQ2 is great. If you're looking for a quick grind and lots of PvP you may want to look elsewhere. I do suggest doing the trial of the isle thing though, if you havent'. Thtat will give you an idea of what the combat system is like, and has a nice little series of quests to it. Since they've remade the isle it's more interesting, particularly with the seperation of the good and evil citizens. Unfortunately I don't think crafting is availbel through the trial, so you don't get to test that out. Whether you decide to go with getting EQ2 or not, I wish you luck on your purchase. Nice to know I'm not the only person in the world who like to deliberate awhile before I make a purchase, especially with an MMO you might dedicate a lot of time to. You want it to be a worthwhile purchase, and you don't want to waste money on the software and monthly fees. Good luck!
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