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POLL >> Should Sir Molle be banned

Gr4dientGr4dient Member Posts: 59
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It seems that Kugutsumen was banned for revealing personal information.  Sir Molle then went on to reveal personal informaton about Kugutsumen.

 

 

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  • ChadkChadk Member Posts: 50

    Get over with it CCP. Ban him now.

    He broke the rules. Be gone!

  • EschiavaEschiava Member Posts: 485
    Other than the fact that I play EVE, I am in no way associated with Bob, but I say no, do not ban him unless it can be proven that he acted "illegally" and with knowledge.



    If that cannot be proven, then no ban.



    And I did not answer in the poll.
  • CenedorCenedor Member Posts: 5
    None of the above. To one sided and biased Poll.

    Kug did some more then just revealing a RL Name as far as i read it on his Forum. And i m not talking bout hacking into the Boards.  Furthermore, you might want to include Mattani (sp?) from the Goonies into the Poll, since he did the same thing as Molle.
  • leipurileipuri Member Posts: 559
    Not in game, just ban him from forums for breaking forum rules. Also all these BOBs who used to share account for that cynonet should be banned, since thats clear exploit of rules for big in game advantage.
  • doomicondoomicon Member Posts: 29
    Don't care if he's banned or not, what does matter to me is that a player was aloud to post another players personal information and is still allowed to play.



    That was enough for me to cancel my subscription.  Played for a month an half.



    btw, just mah $0.02.  Piss or get off the Pot.  If you think this is wrong instead of starting polls, and bitching about how corrupt the game is quit, or shutup.



    I find it funny how everyone is up in arms, and CCP is laughing all the way to the bank.  They handled this horribly, and don't care.. why, cause all the lemmings who believe it's wrong will continue to play.



    Funny thing is.. up until last week, I thought Band of Brothers was a great book by S.Ambrose lol.
  • CenedorCenedor Member Posts: 5
    Originally posted by leipuri

    Not in game, just ban him from forums for breaking forum rules. Also all these BOBs who used to share account for that cynonet should be banned, since thats clear exploit of rules for big in game advantage.
    Lets be somewhat fair here.  Ban 'everyone' that shares accounts, regardless of the Alliance/Corporation ticker. There.. way better.
  • tricotomytricotomy Member Posts: 1
    Sir Molle not only revealed Ku's personal details he encouraged others to RL grief him. In law whistleblowers are protected, Ku broke no in game rules or EULA rules as far as I can make out all his crimes were about obtaining the info he did through unprovable off non-official forums and out of game. He did break the forum rules on posting RL info about another player.



    They should either unban Ku's 5 banned account or ban all of Sir Molle's accounts. They should also ban everyone who was involved in account sharing but that seems to be a rule that CCP is quite happy not to enforce. Noone to date has been banned for account sharing.
  • leipurileipuri Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by Cenedor

    Originally posted by leipuri

    Not in game, just ban him from forums for breaking forum rules. Also all these BOBs who used to share account for that cynonet should be banned, since thats clear exploit of rules for big in game advantage.
    Lets be somewhat fair here.  Ban 'everyone' that shares accounts, regardless of the Alliance/Corporation ticker. There.. way better. Yeah ofcourse, if something come up and get reported to CCP they should investigate and hand bans if needed to. Cynonet should be easy to trace as these accounts would be logged same time as someone elses account that is flying monthership/carrier/dread from same pc most of time and then just check account owner and if it different account owner -> ban.
  • leipurileipuri Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by tricotomy



    They should either unban Ku's 5 banned account or ban all of Sir Molle's accounts. They should also ban everyone who was involved in account sharing but that seems to be a rule that CCP is quite happy not to enforce. Noone to date has been banned for account sharing.
    They should unban his account.
  • CenedorCenedor Member Posts: 5
    Originally posted by leipuri

    Originally posted by Cenedor

    Originally posted by leipuri

    Not in game, just ban him from forums for breaking forum rules. Also all these BOBs who used to share account for that cynonet should be banned, since thats clear exploit of rules for big in game advantage.
    Lets be somewhat fair here.  Ban 'everyone' that shares accounts, regardless of the Alliance/Corporation ticker. There.. way better. Yeah ofcourse, if something come up and get reported to CCP they should investigate and hand bans if needed to. Cynonet should be easy to trace as these accounts would be logged same time as someone elses account that is flying monthership/carrier/dread from same pc most of time and then just check account owner and if it different account owner -> ban.

    Agreed
  • emptyballoonemptyballoon Member Posts: 26

    I wasn't going to do answer this poll.  It seemed to be more of a troll/humorous poll than a serious question.

    But my curiosity got the better of me.  And well, I expected most answers to be "I'm a Dev in BoB".  But no, this poll shows the anger felt by the Eve player base, myself included, at the antics of a once respectedt alliance.

     

  • xthrilxthril Member Posts: 4
    you dont have to be that angry to think that people that do the same offence should get the same ban.
  • 'Vek'Vek Member Posts: 7
    He didnt break the rules. The dev did.
  • JowenJowen Member Posts: 326
    Molle post can be found cached on EVE-Search here: www.eve-search.com/index.dxd



    GM Grimmi explains the how serious it is to post public info to Kugutsumen here: www.kugutsumen.com/showthread.php
  • SurlyBobSurlyBob Member Posts: 27
    Ban all the BoB cheaters.
  • Xachariah_AXachariah_A Member Posts: 4

    Actually I think people complaining about the accountsharing are just trying to find an excuse/reason to hate BoB even more. Account Sharing is pretty common in eve imho, Guess there are lot of peeps who share a hauler alt e.g.

    Posting RL names and working place of kugutsmen was way over the top, though what he did was in no way better. The fact that he actually found quite some important information only partly redeems his hacking attempts.

  • Dervil99Dervil99 Member Posts: 2

    The forum rules don't apply to BoD members, its a well known fact.

    What I find most interedting is that the post in question that should have been an insta-ban was edited by a forum moderator first, then SirMolle came back and edited it as well.

    But I suppose thats what you get with friends in high places.

    A forum ban should be the minimum.

  • AdjointAdjoint Member Posts: 2

    Greetings,

    why to ban players if it is CCP's fault ( devs GMs etc ) ?

    Also exploits r bugs of program and it is dev's and CCP's testers faults not ppls.

    Would be better if CCP was reorganising their policy and fire some ppl that

    made bad name for the company.If I for example was asking 10 billions from

    a GM and GM was giving them to me who's fault would be ? ofc GM's.

     

    Why r u only talking about bobs and u dont say anything about microminers and

    also about what happened with taiwan players and chinese server ?

  • leipurileipuri Member Posts: 559
    Originally posted by Xachariah_A


    Actually I think people complaining about the accountsharing are just trying to find an excuse/reason to hate BoB even more. Account Sharing is pretty common in eve imho, Guess there are lot of peeps who share a hauler alt e.g.
    So is botting, so because its common its ok to break the rules? I am betting some players have got banned before for account sharing, but guess its time to make exception because its BOB who are friends with dev, its not cool to ban any cheater in BOB? Actually according kugus blog there are some who bot in BOB.
  • SurlyBobSurlyBob Member Posts: 27
    A certain BoD leader was also caught macroing - using a program to automagically grab 0 ISK escrows for risk-free profit. He, too, was given a pass by CCP.



    BoD is playing a different game than everyone else. They are the Gods and we are the Clods. Their metagame monopoly has always been their primary secret of success.
  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228

    http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=453749&author=SirMolle

    that means sirmolle called kugu`s boss to fire him ?

    BestSigEver :P
    image

  • JowenJowen Member Posts: 326
    Originally posted by cosy


    http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=453749&author=SirMolle
    that means sirmolle called kugu`s boss to fire him ?
    Apparently they did, by e-mail or something.



    But then again, Kugu's boss seems to be his wife so hurray for that.
  • cosycosy Member UncommonPosts: 3,228

    Originally posted by Jowen
    Originally posted by cosy http://www.eve-search.com/index.dxd?thread=453749&author=SirMolle
    that means sirmolle called kugu`s boss to fire him ?
    Apparently they did, by e-mail or something.

    But then again, Kugu's boss seems to be his wife so hurray for that.

    hehehehe nice
    hahaha BoD u get owned :DDD

    BestSigEver :P
    image

  • CiredricCiredric Member Posts: 723

    Well my brother read Sir Molle's post, and it indeed did offer personal info.  So you argue all you want, the post did exist and did include bannable material.  Unfortunately he did not make a copy of it.

    That being said, the favoritism being displayed on BOB behalf is just another nail in the coffin as far as I am concerned.

  • Anan7Anan7 Member Posts: 13
    *Yawn
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