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eveonline what's the gameplay like

molovianmolovian Member UncommonPosts: 29

I was wondering what the gameplay was like for eve online.

Mostly rp, intrigue, discovery, hidden knowledge, lost of historical mythology and players that are known for stuff they ahve done more like a story and less like a battle, etc...  I tried the trail a long time ago and I didn't get to see how it played, but am considering joining back up to see. 

The reason I ask is that the skill level system in eve is the same as a non referrer link web based game called gokrida that is pure RP and I found it extremely fun and if eve online is run similar to that game then I would have a frame of reference to how good it was and could decide if it was worth playing.

for reference GoKrida is a social reality RPG. Participants describe the GoKrida universe as a social simulation, a role playing or strategy game, a toy, a stage, or an experiment.

Could you explain your experiences in eve online so that I may be able to compare the gameplay to see if eve would be fun for me to try.

thanks in advance for any info you may supply that may be able to get a feel for the game.



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  • bawldybawldy Member Posts: 151
    eve online is all about kissing the butts of ccp, getting ccp employee to give your team things that give them an advantage. then the added bonus of having ccp lie to yeveryone else about it, cover up the misdeads of their employees, and practice censorship that even china at it's worse would have been proud of.


    ccp the "we cheat for our buddies and are proud of it" company...

  • kbm99kbm99 Member Posts: 27
    If you are interested in a game with a complex social/political aspect, their is none better than Eve-O. The problems is, in order to participate in that aspect of the game, you need to have started playing in . .  oh, 2004 or so.



    Couple that with the recent revelation that CCP, the game's publisher, has shown favoritism towards certain player organizations, and then attempted to cover it up and stifle any and all discussion of their wrongdoing, and I can say without reservation that you should not play this game. Which is a damn shame, because it really is a fun game, it's just run by an untrustworthy company.
  • GrmRpr3000GrmRpr3000 Member Posts: 11
    Ignore the posts about the misconduct allegations. It is true that CCP have had a few problems with employees getting a little out of hand (resulting in one firing) however I don't think these things will actually affect you.



    In terms of gameplay. I personally enjoy it. It takes a great deal of time to get your skills to a high level, and you will never catch up with those who have come before you in that sense. But there are other ways to compete. An example of someone who become wealthy and wellknown without having a great many skills is Dark Shikari. He didn't start the game when it was made but using his own knowledge and abilities managed to work himself up to a decent fortune early on, and continued to grow in financial might. The main political players are of course, the older ones. This is mostly because they understand everything, and have already gained the respect and trust of others. Trust is a major point in EVE, no one is going to follow you in any major venture unless they trust you, something that the older players have more of than the newer ones.



    But you don't have to be a top brass leader to enjoy things, and take part in the political part of the game. Leaders in this game often operate with others to help them, so even if you aren't the leader yourself, spend some time in a corporation and gain their trust, and if they are in an alliance they may always offer you as one of their representatives for instance. Trust can also be used to rip people off of course.



    Then there is the manufacturing and logistics. This can get to be very complicated, and once again takes a while to get into at a higher level, but I would say its worth it.



    PvP is also extremely fun. Although not really twitch based, your own reactions and ability to think on the go, and also before you fight are very important. Your fittings, and your abilities to choose your targets wisely are even more important. And of course the fact of real loss should you die can create some real tense and adrenaline filled fun.
  • SurlyBobSurlyBob Member Posts: 27
    Getting a player worth undocking takes months. PvP is largely luck/lag-based. Economy is luck/corruption-based (t2 bpos). Endgame is dominated by developer alts.



    Eve is an excellent simulation of real life, where you'll bust your ass for years, but in the end, the powers that be will stomp you into the ground without giving you a second thought. People will laugh at you when you cry foul.



    Perfect game for masos, really.
  • kbm99kbm99 Member Posts: 27
    While it's true that the recently revealed developer misconduct is not likely to affect you directly in-game, you must aks yourself if you want to support a company that tolerates such behavior or not.



    In retrospect, I suppose CCP's well-known policy of tolerance for all sorts of in-game theft, con-games and scams should ahve alerted me to the fact that the company itself might have a problem with honesty.
  • MaestroUlvMaestroUlv Member Posts: 11
    Originally posted by bawldy

    do

    Completely over the top reply that isn't helping those of us who really care about the game and a solution to the problems will not happen while people do this!



    To the OP. If you read more of my threads in here and the Eve O forums you will find I am vocal in my dislike for the current affairs that are souring CCPs image, however you will also find that I am still playing this game and whilst I am rapidly losing faith in the company the effects of the charade of trust is not one that will likely effect your gameplay.



    Eve is a wonderful game. It is without doubt the most overly complicated yet childlike game you can play on the current MMO market. You can quite simply choose any proffesion you desire within the game and have a good chance at being succesful at it, or you can die from day one and onwards :)



    You can whore your services or your in-game body (I used to be a pimp so I know this :D ), You can rat, kill, sell, make, build, mine, ransom, rant, whine, haul, irritate and immitate and you can excel.



    IMO you *do* need to join a corp with good people. This is partly because it is an MMO and even though solo players abound, it isn't really the point of the game. It is also as one poster already said very hard to compete at first in universe of experienced players, however it is far from impossible.



    Just yesterday I made a trade alt. From the off she makes money and I have fun with her, this is partly because I have experience though, another plus point to my idea that you joined a player corp.



    I would recommend you chose wiseley though, there are corps out there that will abuse you and make your noob life a misery, but with choice and intelligence you will enjoy this game.



    Look me up in-game, same name as in here but with a space before "Ulv"
  • SurlyBobSurlyBob Member Posts: 27
    How could you not be convinced by such huge text?????
  • MaestroUlvMaestroUlv Member Posts: 11
    Originally posted by bawldy or maybe you are a benefactor of the events that have transpired.



    You really haven't read my replies have you? Read them and you will find my stance on this affair and the outcome id prefer.



    The death of Eve is not one of them. The people who care about the game and the effect CCP has had with its decision to whitewash events will only be overcome by discussion.This is what I want.



    Your post in red bold letters only causes one thing, the same thing that happened on the official forums. We get silenced by the scared.
  • SurlyBobSurlyBob Member Posts: 27
    Everyone remember, it wasn't just the cheating dev. SirMolle publicly posted K's personal info and encouraged people to try and get him fired - against the rules, but no ban! That other BoB got caught macroing - no ban! Bob cheerfully admitted to hacking the enemy teamspeak in their last war - no bans!!

    Dev blogs admit that other devs still play in 0.0 alliances. You think they all play clean? Is it even POSSIBLE to "play clean" when you have intimate knowledge of the game's innermost workings?
  • shilakshilak Member Posts: 78

    Molovian, EVE is pretty much what you make of it, you are free to try whatever you like, be it piracy, becoming a business mogul, forming a new galactic power, playing the conman, thief, etc. The list is endless given you have the time and drive to do it, just set yourself a goal and go for it. One thing I would say though, it can be pretty cutthroat, there will always be someone trying to muscle in on your turf or steal your hard earned ISKs and therefore isnt a game for carebears.

  • shilakshilak Member Posts: 78
    Originally posted by SurlyBob

    Everyone remember, it wasn't just the cheating dev. SirMolle publicly posted K's personal info and encouraged people to try and get him fired - against the rules, but no ban! That other BoB got caught macroing - no ban! Bob cheerfully admitted to hacking the enemy teamspeak in their last war - no bans!!

    Dev blogs admit that other devs still play in 0.0 alliances. You think they all play clean? Is it even POSSIBLE to "play clean" when you have intimate knowledge of the game's innermost workings?

    The vast majority of EVE players are unaffected by those things. Most EVE players arent even involved with 0.0 alliance politics and antics, most of those alliances are self-sufficient economies with the only external interaction being wars or selling excess produce in Empire space.

    I hope they dont stop their staff from playing the game, because the best way to root out problems in the game is to experience them for themselves, the best way to see what is needed in the game is to play it themselves. All they need to do is ensure that any future cheating by staff is kept to a minimum and punished appropriately. They are unlikely to sack a dev for cheating anyway, especially if it was one that has been with them for a long time as they will have experience with the product that is VERY hard and expensive to replace. That dev is highly unlikely to cheat again now they have been caught as they will no doubt be getting watch over a lot more now.

    As for 'playing clean', of course it is possible. Does every shop assistant take stuff home with them? Does every stock broker participate in insider dealing? Does every bank employee steal money? Of course they dont, so quit trying to claim that the exception to the rule is the norm.

  • SurlyBobSurlyBob Member Posts: 27
    You don't need to have people playing politics in the upper tiers of 0.0 alliances to find bugs. 1,000s are submitted via petitions, every day, and are ignored. There's also that whole test server thing. Worse still, evidence suggests that when dev alts find bugs, they are more likely to exploit them to their alliance's advantage, rather than "fix them". Everyone who's ever left empire knows that the big alliances have always been the biggest exploiters in Eve.



    It is true that most Eve players aren't affected by these things. You have to toil in-game for YEARS before you get to experience this wonderful "get reamed by gm/dev alts in 0.0" content!!



    Your kind of blind faith in authority figures is what allowed the holocaust to happen.



    Freaking nazi.



















    hahaha, j/k.
  • brokenneedlebrokenneedle Member Posts: 100

    What's the gameplay like?  That's a tough question!  I played for around 6 months or so just last year, and the main reason I stopped was to save a little money.  Money situation is much better now, but haven't gone back.

    I played the trial, was kinda hooked, then the first month of payed play I was pretty bored.  But then I found a really good and interesting corp, and that hooked me into the game for the next few months.  I've tried to get a few of my real-life buddies into it and they were all bored out of their minds.  So, it's just really not for everyone.

    As far as the recent events with the devs cheating.  That really sucks.  I the corp I was in was in an alliance that fell under attack by BoB's guard dogs (MC) because we had a capital shipyard etc etc etc.  It might not effect you on the small scale, but everything in Eve is connected and any kind of misconduct like that is crap.

    As far as the needing to be playing for the last few years to compete in pvp, not at all.  You can work on tackling skills in a few days, then move on up from that.  In the few months I played I was into t2 frigs and had the battleship skill (but not all the gun skills yet etc etc.) 

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