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Servers Down Again for Troubled D&D Franchise...and another thing

10 day trial was only 7 days.  2 month membership was no better. They should refund a portion of my $14.95 monthly fee?   The servers have been down more than...Paris HIlton!  I dont' know what's worse;  the ill-fated TV Show in 1983 starring the voices from the "Eight is Enough" TV cast or the 2000 movie starring Jeremy  Irons (fresh off his previous role as pedophile in "Lolita"). Dungeons and Dragons has been a let down as of late.  DDO is no exception.  Evil characters are Chaotic Neutral. Gone are the days of pickpocketing and just plain being an evil bastard.   I am glad to see they are taking care of the Solo issue in February 07.  Boy I miss the days of rolling dice in 1974 and absolutley hating my dungeonmaster.  The game is unfinished and its a shame this company is asking its users to finance their development in exchange for shoddy graphics and lifeless quests. 

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  • combustion8combustion8 Member Posts: 14
    go buy some books and play the paper version then.
  • cupertinocupertino Member Posts: 1,094
    F2P is the answer



    And charge a small fee for content updates.



    DnD is a good game but many dont see what they're paying for, its an instanced game cept the dungeons, if GW can do it why not turbine?

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  • FerretrodeoFerretrodeo Member UncommonPosts: 29

    I agree. DDO was a huge disappointment to me. I played for two months then quit. I loved the graphics but hated just about everything else. The game had such an unfinished feel that it reminded me of the Anarcy Online release. Hope that in six months DDO gets to be one of the best because the D&D franchise deserves it but I wont play it. You will have your hardcore, kool-aid drinking supporters of the game but I don't think that there are as many of them as people who didn't like it. Be interesting to see if this game goes by the way of AC2. Before anybody says anything, I DID break out the old books and am now getting a campaign put together.

  • EffectEffect Member UncommonPosts: 949
    Originally posted by cupertino

    F2P is the answer



    And charge a small fee for content updates.



    DnD is a good game but many dont see what they're paying for, its an instanced game cept the dungeons, if GW can do it why not turbine?
    That was my biggest problem with DDO. Take away the Dungeons and Dragons name and aspect what you have at the core is Guild War's core and GW does it better. A shame really since I'm a big Eberron fan and was really looking forward to the game but I honestly can not see any justification for paying a monthly fee for this game. Especially since I own Guild Wars and can't help but look at it and make a comparison. I want to play DDO but can't bring myself to agree to pay $15 for it each month.



    I honestly would be happy to pay for the module upgrades if the game was free to play though. That way I know why I'm spending money. I can rationalize that in my head. It's all about justifying the price. I can't agree to pay monthly prices for other games since I just don't see why when there are elements in the game limiting from experiencing the full thing. It comes down to rationalizing the whole situation now.
  • beezeebeezee Member Posts: 149
    Originally posted by Effect

    Originally posted by cupertino

    F2P is the answer



    And charge a small fee for content updates.



    DnD is a good game but many dont see what they're paying for, its an instanced game cept the dungeons, if GW can do it why not turbine?
    That was my biggest problem with DDO. Take away the Dungeons and Dragons name and aspect what you have at the core is Guild War's core and GW does it better. A shame really since I'm a big Eberron fan and was really looking forward to the game but I honestly can not see any justification for paying a monthly fee for this game. Especially since I own Guild Wars and can't help but look at it and make a comparison. I want to play DDO but can't bring myself to agree to pay $15 for it each month.



    I honestly would be happy to pay for the module upgrades if the game was free to play though. That way I know why I'm spending money. I can rationalize that in my head. It's all about justifying the price. I can't agree to pay monthly prices for other games since I just don't see why when there are elements in the game limiting from experiencing the full thing. It comes down to rationalizing the whole situation now.

    Good point!  I agree,  Take away the name and whatta ya got... A second class game for all intents and purposes.
  • rpetrulrpetrul Member Posts: 24

    This isn't rocket science.  The game isnt ready for development.  How many PC games are shipped to consumers this way? Plenty! The only difference is you get patches to clear the problems.  DDO has major glitches that defy logic and problems are left unresolved.

     You die all of sudden for no reason.  Just walking along in the Marketplace.  Quests have problems with interaction and locking up.  I cannot count the number of times someone had to e-mail customer service to reset certain NPC's.  All this, in the middle of a quest, means poor play.   The lag is horrible.  You are ready to face a monster and your computer locks up and then you die. 

    Plus players cheat the system. Level 10's who never leave the Harbor (first level) becuase they continuosly enter quests for xp.  Sure the system reduces XP each time but you guys know what I'm talking about.  Plus mailing money or non-bound items to another character is another way for players to get around the system.  What ever happened to one quest and then its over never to re-enter again.  The re-entry rule is just plain dumb.   Players know each level so well that newbies get treated like garbage. Favor is a overrated and a waste of time.  This game will fail!

     

  • LasteraLastera Member Posts: 368
    Originally posted by rpetrul


    This isn't rocket science.  The game isnt ready for development.  How many PC games are shipped to consumers this way? Plenty! The only difference is you get patches to clear the problems.  DDO has major glitches that defy logic and problems are left unresolved.
     You die all of sudden for no reason.  Just walking along in the Marketplace.  Quests have problems with interaction and locking up.  I cannot count the number of times someone had to e-mail customer service to reset certain NPC's.  All this, in the middle of a quest, means poor play.   The lag is horrible.  You are ready to face a monster and your computer locks up and then you die. 
    Plus players cheat the system. Level 10's who never leave the Harbor (first level) becuase they continuosly enter quests for xp.  Sure the system reduces XP each time but you guys know what I'm talking about.  Plus mailing money or non-bound items to another character is another way for players to get around the system.  What ever happened to one quest and then its over never to re-enter again.  The re-entry rule is just plain dumb.   Players know each level so well that newbies get treated like garbage. Favor is a overrated and a waste of time.  This game will fail!
     
    I don't hate DDO, but I wish these fanboys would have admit that this game needs a serious readjustment. Also you forgot to not that there is glitch with dice. When target something else, the dice doesn't respond as quick. You might swing two or three times before your dice actually rolls.
  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    Are we playing the same game??

    I never died all of a sudden for no reason, nor do I know any guildmates that did as well, and also never read anything happening like that on the boards. I'm sure I can be proven wrong by the resident troll.

    Never had a quest lock up or lack of NPC response. But you already set in that you do not like the game.

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  • KienKien Member Posts: 520
    I played this game on release and quit it after three months. I just happened to come back here to see how the game was doing. After reading this thread, all I can say is "wow!". It's been months, and the game still seems "unfinished"? Wow.



    DDO was a nice concept, but they put all their eggs in one basket. The quality of the dungeons were going to make or break this game, and guess what? Low quality, generic dungeons made for unhappy players. The other stuff (bugs, etc) was a real annoyance but the primary issue (for me) was the lack of quality areas.
  • neuronomadneuronomad Member Posts: 1,276
    I haven't played DDO in a few weeks as I have been playing Vanguard.  Let me tell you DDO even in it worst state was far more stable than Vanguard is.   If you want to complain about a game being released that wasn't finished pick up Saga of Heroes.  Sure its a fun game but man oh man.  After my free month unless something major changes I will certainly be heading back to DDO.

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  • TorakTorak Member Posts: 4,905
    Originally posted by neuronomad

    I haven't played DDO in a few weeks as I have been playing Vanguard.  Let me tell you DDO even in it worst state was far more stable than Vanguard is.   If you want to complain about a game being released that wasn't finished pick up Saga of Heroes.  Sure its a fun game but man oh man.  After my free month unless something major changes I will certainly be heading back to DDO.



    Brother I could have saved you 50 bucks, I was in beta for Vanguard for 4 months. (I could have sworn I told you ) If I had my choice between the 2 games, I would go to sleep. There are so many great games out right now outside of MMO's and some promising RPG's on the way....Wait another year or two, if MMO's survive, they might actually be worth putting the time into playing.

  • MMO_MunkMMO_Munk Member Posts: 299
    i couldnt believe how awful this game had turned out, i wish there was still hope on it becoming something, but i fear those times are long gone as of now.
  • grimbojgrimboj Member Posts: 2,102
    Yah I still keep hope too - resubbing every so often but regretting it by the second day. If I re-roll it drags the boredom out another day or two. The game lacks players, content and development. Ive been saying it since DDOs release, Turbine is surviving on AC1 subscriptions right now and they wont last forever if they keep venting dribbles like this.

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  • OdyssesOdysses Member Posts: 581

    AC seems to have been making a very steady comeback from the lows of the billing transfer from Microsoft.   But there is no doubt Turbine will be making gobs of money of LoTRO and this will definitely benefit both AC and DDO.    I would love to see an all access pass if they can swing it.

  • SevenwindSevenwind Member UncommonPosts: 2,188

    Yes yes all access pass! I can't understand why other companies have not done this like NCSoft.

    I would cancel my SOE pass if Turbine did a all pass thing.

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  • rpetrulrpetrul Member Posts: 24

    I have read recent criticism of my articles relating this game. I guess I am kind of negative toward the game and the franchise.  I grew up in the video game era.  Being born in 1960's, I played "Space Invaders" at the arcades in the 1970's; bought  my first Commodore 64 when I was a kid, played Atari,Micrografx (First CD Game),Nintendo,Playstaytion, PS2, XBOX and yes I have PS3.  I have a Gamestop card and gamers memberships.  My point is that the world of video games is a hobbie to me. 

     DDO (online) has a much older group of adventurers and I think the loyalists are hanging on for better days ahead.  I am one of these loyalists.   The DDO concept is even poor.  Dungeons and Dragons was about character development and storylines with a unique battlesystem.  This online game is nothing more than a Diablo or Diablo 2.  Adventurers just want to get through quests and kill things to get instant rewards and favor.  There is no main story.  Quests are scattered throughout this massive world.  There is simply not enough subcribers in the game to cover team building.  When was the last time story didn't matter in a D&D game?  NEVER!

    Complain Complain thats all I do!  I have 1 day left till my membership runs out.  Im debating whether to go another month.  I probably will give these guys another chance.  I have been doing it for quite some time now.  Maybe I wont and cut my losses.  I dunno.  I cant play today because the server is down again.  I will have to make my decision tonight.

  • reploidxreploidx Member UncommonPosts: 320
    Go play neverwinter nights, i enjoyed this game a lot, but there are to many kids who come in and start bitching about how its not WoW, no shit. But for those who can actually want good atmosphere, good story, good people to either Roleplay or hang out with, go grab Neverwinter, not the second, its online community is just getting off the ground. The first neverwinter has a ton of player created servers.
  • MogwaMogwa Member Posts: 36
    Originally posted by rpetrul


    10 day trial was only 7 days.  2 month membership was no better. They should refund a portion of my $14.95 monthly fee?   The servers have been down more than...Paris HIlton!  I dont' know what's worse;  the ill-fated TV Show in 1983 starring the voices from the "Eight is Enough" TV cast or the 2000 movie starring Jeremy  Irons (fresh off his previous role as pedophile in "Lolita"). Dungeons and Dragons has been a let down as of late.  DDO is no exception.  Evil characters are Chaotic Neutral. Gone are the days of pickpocketing and just plain being an evil bastard.   I am glad to see they are taking care of the Solo issue in February 07.  Boy I miss the days of rolling dice in 1974 and absolutley hating my dungeonmaster.  The game is unfinished and its a shame this company is asking its users to finance their development in exchange for shoddy graphics and lifeless quests. 
    Isnt that the norm these days? We are a poor gaming company cause we spent our whole budget on redbull and hookers so will you please please please buy our game and finance the rest of the code with a monthly fee of your hard earned cash?



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