I may be smaller than most men, but I have a yellow belt in Tae Kwon Do and I know how to land a punch that would hurt even a man.
Hi.
Just kidding, heh. I personally agree with "feminism killed chivalry" - and I'm glad it did, too. As a feminist (or rather, equalist) and martial artist I personally believe women are just as capable of taking and handing out attacks. They may not always be as effective as, say, Bruce Lee's punches, but self defense is self defense. Where do you draw the line of not reacting in self defence? How do you judge if your opponent is significantly weaker than you? I don't feel you should ever violently resort to arse-kickery after someone lands a blow on you, unless the situation truly demands it. I say this as both an aspirant-police officer, somewhat experienced martial artist, and as a pacifist.
Also, Ladylore - being 'smaller' (if by smaller you mean length) has nothing to do with it. In fact, I personally believe it has many, many advantages in a fight.
Ha ha, there used to be a time that if a man was hitting a woman, it was solely to "keep her in her place". And if a woman was being hit by her man, there wasn't much she could do about it rather than take it. I wonder how many women were slapping or punching their men hundreds of years ago, when the rule to not hit women became part of chivalric law? How many women could bob and weave wearing a corset and a petticoat? The thing is, time has changed us ladies. Some of us may playfully punch a guy or slap him if he said something that hurt our feelings or oogled some chick in a tight dress a little too hard. But I do know of a few women who have hit a man out of anger with an intent to hurt. I do not condone a man hitting a woman, but then again I do not condone a woman hitting a man in anger, either. I know two wrongs don't make a right, but I have a hard time feeling sympathy for the chick who got knocked out after she punched a dude in the face three times. I may be smaller than most men, but I have a yellow belt in Tae Kwon Do and I know how to land a punch that would hurt even a man. I wouldn't want a man to hit me, and so I don't hit men. You gotta do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Oh - and I agree, chivalry does seem to be dying, and I agree that feminism is partly to blame. When I smile and thank a man for politely holding the door open for me or happily take his seat that he offered, I get the strangest looks from other women nearby. It seems as if being a lady is dying out, too.
Wow I like you.
Well thats one female that is backing my claim that girls can WTFPWN guys.
I may be smaller than most men, but I have a yellow belt in Tae Kwon Do and I know how to land a punch that would hurt even a man.
Hi.
Just kidding, heh. I personally agree with "feminism killed chivalry" - and I'm glad it did, too. As a feminist (or rather, equalist) and martial artist I personally believe women are just as capable of taking and handing out attacks. They may not always be as effective as, say, Bruce Lee's punches, but self defense is self defense. Where do you draw the line of not reacting in self defence? How do you judge if your opponent is significantly weaker than you? I don't feel you should ever violently resort to arse-kickery after someone lands a blow on you, unless the situation truly demands it. I say this as both an aspirant-police officer, somewhat experienced martial artist, and as a pacifist.
Also, Ladylore - being 'smaller' (if by smaller you mean length) has nothing to do with it. In fact, I personally believe it has many, many advantages in a fight.
I agree completely, and that is why I feel the way I feel. I DO think that some women can hold their own in a fight against some men, even if she is smaller. In some cases, the woman may be a better fighter than the man, even But that doesn't give a man the right to hit a woman, anymore than any woman has a right to hit a man.
My point is, if women would act like ladies (and men would act like gentlemen) and stop hitting people period, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. A woman who is hitting someone, in my opinion, is not acting like a lady. And thusly is not obligated to be treated like one, heh.
In my opinion, women just simply should not be hit, assuming they pose no physical threat.
On another note: down with feminism! You've got your equal rights in the countries that matter, you even get paid for maternity leave, I think we're being overly generous, and I detest feminists. I consider every person an equal. If you want to be recognized as something more, lets see you build your own cities, your own cars and planes and homes, etc.
In my opinion, women just simply should not be hit, assuming they pose no physical threat.
On another note: down with feminism! You've got your equal rights in the countries that matter, you even get paid for maternity leave, I think we're being overly generous, and I detest feminists. I consider every person an equal. If you want to be recognized as something more, lets see you build your own cities, your own cars and planes and homes, etc.
So if a man poses no physical threat, its okay to hit him ?
lol, really, nobody should hit anybody. But assuming your not going to permanently hurt the guy, a smack might do him good at times; they can shake it off more easily (both physically and emotionally) than women can. I don't see too many guys suing their gfs or w/e for assault.
Its dead simple. If a woman wants to act like a woman, I will treat her like one. If she wants to act like a man, I will treat her like one.
Equality is ignorant. No two humans on the face of the earth are equal. Not even twins are equal. We are all diffrent, and we need to start embracing our diffrences instead of being scared of them.
"It is in your nature to do one thing correctly; Before me, you rightfully tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. You owe me awe." ~Francis Dolarhyde
I remember getting my ass kicked by a girl going up in martial arts back in the day. I was a yellow belt, and she was red. I think that was the day I thought, "so girls can be this strong". Every attack I did was a counter and I ended up on the floor. I do believe women have the ability to defend themselves, but too many show themselves in jewlery than fightng experience. Humm....
Right, OK, I'm fed up with all this 'more muscle mass' bullshit. And then the 'you wouldn't hit a child' stuff (OK, i'm hardly an adult myself, but if someone didn't think wiser than taking a swipe at me, I'd certainly show them what for - and that doesn't mean hitting back normally, so much as picking them up by the collar and asking them to give me a reason).
Ask yourself this guys... Let's assume you're 5' 10". You're in a club and you pull this hot girl you've been trying for all night. You walk outside and this guy 5' 7", same-ish build as you, throws you against the wall and tells you that was the girl he wanted, and then persists to kick you in the solar plexus (sp??). Would you hit back?... I bet you would. I bet even if you didn't want to you would. Now, that guy's probably a good stone or more lighter than you... Where's your "but they can't fight as well as you" now?
Next situation... My ex-girlfriend came second from national champion for Karate. She's also (i'm not afraid to admit it) a whole lot stronger than me. She could actually pick me up and throw me almost 6 feet. So, lets say, back in the club again, I pull her best friend. She's not having any of this, so invites me outside for a chat where she proceeds to sweep out my feet and bring me to my knees infront of her, and then upper cut my jaw. Could I fight back here?... She weighs more than me... Has more muscle mass... Is LOADS better as a fighter...
And still on my ex, I've watched her take guys twice my weight (muscle of course) down without a moments hesitation or an exhilation of breath. Those guys I'd have actually ran from if they started on me, but she could handle them. Point is, just because someone's female, doesn't mean they're any less a threat than a guy.
A woman can be equally strong and equally good a fighter as any guy, just like any guy can be equally weak and equally useless as a fighter as any woman. I see no reason not to hit a woman in self defense if you're under threat. If a woman starts on me I'll either restrain, fight back, or if it was obvious that it was just a one off slap or something, generally a really blunt insult, like spitting, or offering the other cheek does the trick. The idea isn't to win, but to make your opponent feel as if they've lost, regardless of whether they can win the conflict.
And on the "phone the police" thing... That'd be REALLY useful if I didn't live in a country where a man has phoned the police because his wife bit his finger off, and was given a crime investigation number and the offer of coming to the station to confirm whether or not the finger had really been bitten off... This being the same man that 3 months before, his wife had thrown a hissy-fit and phoned the police saying that he'd hit her, and he was immediately escorted from his office to the police station where he was held a night in custody, despite that noone had even confirmed whether she'd been hit or not... If we could get equality in justice, as well as the work place... Wouldn't that be nice...
Right, OK, I'm fed up with all this 'more muscle mass' bullshit. And then the 'you wouldn't hit a child' stuff (OK, i'm hardly an adult myself, but if someone didn't think wiser than taking a swipe at me, I'd certainly show them what for - and that doesn't mean hitting back normally, so much as picking them up by the collar and asking them to give me a reason). Ask yourself this guys... Let's assume you're 5' 10". You're in a club and you pull this hot girl you've been trying for all night. You walk outside and this guy 5' 7", same-ish build as you, throws you against the wall and tells you that was the girl he wanted, and then persists to kick you in the solar plexus (sp??). Would you hit back?... I bet you would. I bet even if you didn't want to you would. Now, that guy's probably a good stone or more lighter than you... Where's your "but they can't fight as well as you" now? Next situation... My ex-girlfriend came second from national champion for Karate. She's also (i'm not afraid to admit it) a whole lot stronger than me. She could actually pick me up and throw me almost 6 feet. So, lets say, back in the club again, I pull her best friend. She's not having any of this, so invites me outside for a chat where she proceeds to sweep out my feet and bring me to my knees infront of her, and then upper cut my jaw. Could I fight back here?... She weighs more than me... Has more muscle mass... Is LOADS better as a fighter... And still on my ex, I've watched her take guys twice my weight (muscle of course) down without a moments hesitation or an exhilation of breath. Those guys I'd have actually ran from if they started on me, but she could handle them. Point is, just because someone's female, doesn't mean they're any less a threat than a guy.
A woman can be equally strong and equally good a fighter as any guy, just like any guy can be equally weak and equally useless as a fighter as any woman. I see no reason not to hit a woman in self defense if you're under threat. If a woman starts on me I'll either restrain, fight back, or if it was obvious that it was just a one off slap or something, generally a really blunt insult, like spitting, or offering the other cheek does the trick. The idea isn't to win, but to make your opponent feel as if they've lost, regardless of whether they can win the conflict.
And on the "phone the police" thing... That'd be REALLY useful if I didn't live in a country where a man has phoned the police because his wife bit his finger off, and was given a crime investigation number and the offer of coming to the station to confirm whether or not the finger had really been bitten off... This being the same man that 3 months before, his wife had thrown a hissy-fit and phoned the police saying that he'd hit her, and he was immediately escorted from his office to the police station where he was held a night in custody, despite that noone had even confirmed whether she'd been hit or not... If we could get equality in justice, as well as the work place... Wouldn't that be nice...
I really wish I had this much ability at saying what I have to say lol.
In my opinion, women just simply should not be hit, assuming they pose no physical threat.
On another note: down with feminism! You've got your equal rights in the countries that matter, you even get paid for maternity leave, I think we're being overly generous, and I detest feminists. I consider every person an equal. If you want to be recognized as something more, lets see you build your own cities, your own cars and planes and homes, etc.
Either you or the person who is acting like a feminist is ignorant. A feminist believes in equality, not better rights.
Except for a few (who believe men should be punished for as long as woman have not been equal), but honestly, they cannot be considered feminist.
If a woman initiated a fight, and there was no other way to put an end to it, yes I would hit back. I would however first make every attempt to avoid doing so. If that means pinning her arms or even sitting on her so be it.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Ask yourself this guys... Let's assume you're 5' 10". You're in a club and you pull this hot girl you've been trying for all night. You walk outside and this guy 5' 7", same-ish build as you, throws you against the wall and tells you that was the girl he wanted, and then persists to kick you in the solar plexus (sp??). Would you hit back?... I bet you would. I bet even if you didn't want to you would. Now, that guy's probably a good stone or more lighter than you... Where's your "but they can't fight as well as you" now?
Do realise that weight and especially height isn't that big of a factor. What they lack in pure strength, they more than make up for in speed and (usually) agility.
Of course, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who spars about 6 times per week and not at all a street fighter, but still. Never underestimate someone because of their height. People who are 6' 7" may appear bulky and clumsy, but I bet you all my money you don't want to receive a full frontal punch from them. Same with someone who is 5' 7".
Remember that Bruce Lee and Mohammed Ali fought each other, with 5' 6" and 6' 3" respectively.
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Just kidding, heh. I personally agree with "feminism killed chivalry" - and I'm glad it did, too. As a feminist (or rather, equalist) and martial artist I personally believe women are just as capable of taking and handing out attacks. They may not always be as effective as, say, Bruce Lee's punches, but self defense is self defense. Where do you draw the line of not reacting in self defence? How do you judge if your opponent is significantly weaker than you? I don't feel you should ever violently resort to arse-kickery after someone lands a blow on you, unless the situation truly demands it. I say this as both an aspirant-police officer, somewhat experienced martial artist, and as a pacifist.
Also, Ladylore - being 'smaller' (if by smaller you mean length) has nothing to do with it. In fact, I personally believe it has many, many advantages in a fight.
Wow I like you.
Well thats one female that is backing my claim that girls can WTFPWN guys.
Just kidding, heh. I personally agree with "feminism killed chivalry" - and I'm glad it did, too. As a feminist (or rather, equalist) and martial artist I personally believe women are just as capable of taking and handing out attacks. They may not always be as effective as, say, Bruce Lee's punches, but self defense is self defense. Where do you draw the line of not reacting in self defence? How do you judge if your opponent is significantly weaker than you? I don't feel you should ever violently resort to arse-kickery after someone lands a blow on you, unless the situation truly demands it. I say this as both an aspirant-police officer, somewhat experienced martial artist, and as a pacifist.
Also, Ladylore - being 'smaller' (if by smaller you mean length) has nothing to do with it. In fact, I personally believe it has many, many advantages in a fight.
I agree completely, and that is why I feel the way I feel. I DO think that some women can hold their own in a fight against some men, even if she is smaller. In some cases, the woman may be a better fighter than the man, even But that doesn't give a man the right to hit a woman, anymore than any woman has a right to hit a man.
My point is, if women would act like ladies (and men would act like gentlemen) and stop hitting people period, we wouldn't even be having this conversation. A woman who is hitting someone, in my opinion, is not acting like a lady. And thusly is not obligated to be treated like one, heh.
On another note: down with feminism! You've got your equal rights in the countries that matter, you even get paid for maternity leave, I think we're being overly generous, and I detest feminists. I consider every person an equal. If you want to be recognized as something more, lets see you build your own cities, your own cars and planes and homes, etc.
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lol, really, nobody should hit anybody. But assuming your not going to permanently hurt the guy, a smack might do him good at times; they can shake it off more easily (both physically and emotionally) than women can. I don't see too many guys suing their gfs or w/e for assault.
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Final Fantasy 7
Equality is ignorant. No two humans on the face of the earth are equal. Not even twins are equal. We are all diffrent, and we need to start embracing our diffrences instead of being scared of them.
"It is in your nature to do one thing correctly; Before me, you rightfully tremble. But, fear is not what you owe me. You owe me awe." ~Francis Dolarhyde
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Right, OK, I'm fed up with all this 'more muscle mass' bullshit. And then the 'you wouldn't hit a child' stuff (OK, i'm hardly an adult myself, but if someone didn't think wiser than taking a swipe at me, I'd certainly show them what for - and that doesn't mean hitting back normally, so much as picking them up by the collar and asking them to give me a reason).
Ask yourself this guys... Let's assume you're 5' 10". You're in a club and you pull this hot girl you've been trying for all night. You walk outside and this guy 5' 7", same-ish build as you, throws you against the wall and tells you that was the girl he wanted, and then persists to kick you in the solar plexus (sp??). Would you hit back?... I bet you would. I bet even if you didn't want to you would. Now, that guy's probably a good stone or more lighter than you... Where's your "but they can't fight as well as you" now?
Next situation... My ex-girlfriend came second from national champion for Karate. She's also (i'm not afraid to admit it) a whole lot stronger than me. She could actually pick me up and throw me almost 6 feet. So, lets say, back in the club again, I pull her best friend. She's not having any of this, so invites me outside for a chat where she proceeds to sweep out my feet and bring me to my knees infront of her, and then upper cut my jaw. Could I fight back here?... She weighs more than me... Has more muscle mass... Is LOADS better as a fighter...
And still on my ex, I've watched her take guys twice my weight (muscle of course) down without a moments hesitation or an exhilation of breath. Those guys I'd have actually ran from if they started on me, but she could handle them. Point is, just because someone's female, doesn't mean they're any less a threat than a guy.
A woman can be equally strong and equally good a fighter as any guy, just like any guy can be equally weak and equally useless as a fighter as any woman. I see no reason not to hit a woman in self defense if you're under threat. If a woman starts on me I'll either restrain, fight back, or if it was obvious that it was just a one off slap or something, generally a really blunt insult, like spitting, or offering the other cheek does the trick. The idea isn't to win, but to make your opponent feel as if they've lost, regardless of whether they can win the conflict.
And on the "phone the police" thing... That'd be REALLY useful if I didn't live in a country where a man has phoned the police because his wife bit his finger off, and was given a crime investigation number and the offer of coming to the station to confirm whether or not the finger had really been bitten off... This being the same man that 3 months before, his wife had thrown a hissy-fit and phoned the police saying that he'd hit her, and he was immediately escorted from his office to the police station where he was held a night in custody, despite that noone had even confirmed whether she'd been hit or not... If we could get equality in justice, as well as the work place... Wouldn't that be nice...
Except for a few (who believe men should be punished for as long as woman have not been equal), but honestly, they cannot be considered feminist.
Lol sorry LostGrace, I know that one went on a bit hahaha... As do most of my posts in fact... I just get very bored and carried away lol!
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
If a girl hit me like 3 times, in a maner to hurt me, then i would hit her( well, prob just take her to the ground. tackle etc...)
Do realise that weight and especially height isn't that big of a factor. What they lack in pure strength, they more than make up for in speed and (usually) agility.
Of course, I'm speaking from the perspective of someone who spars about 6 times per week and not at all a street fighter, but still. Never underestimate someone because of their height. People who are 6' 7" may appear bulky and clumsy, but I bet you all my money you don't want to receive a full frontal punch from them. Same with someone who is 5' 7".
Remember that Bruce Lee and Mohammed Ali fought each other, with 5' 6" and 6' 3" respectively.
i was looking arond then i saw this thread lol
heres my advice
KEEP YOUR PIMP HAND STRONG
Theres an evil monkey in my closet hes gone BANANA'S!!
help me!