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A hellish night in VG: saga of bugs and crashes (fanbois flame HERE pls)
Elikal
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Ok I have tried to keep a balance between critical points and praising the good things. I counted myself neither to haters no fanbois. I want to love VG, really. But this night was really making me so damn pissed at this game, I have to constrain myself not trying to be too rude...
First, I have a Duo2 intel, 2 GB ram, Nvidia 7950 with 512 MB, so I think I SHOULD be able to technically play the game well enough. For SOME reason in these last 2 weeks the amount of crashes I have per day has CONSTANTLY risen. As has those of most of my guildmates now up to an average of once per 60-90 minutes. Taking a group of 6 someone crashes any 15 minutes now.
While this isnt a big problem on the easy surface, in every dungeon I was, it is a 80% chance for a wipe. Loose the MT or the healer or the mezzer and your group is SO dead.
It all has added to a SUM of inacceptable nasty things. The bottom line is: I make easily thrice as much XP and loot soloing than with ANY group, no matter where this group goes. Either we do easy surface tasks = miniature XP or we go into dungeons = 10 wipes per 2 hours.
I really started to loath this Kragnors End, or whats it called. I carry those one dozen quests, and I havent been able to finish a single MF quest there in 2 weeks. I went in with several full groups, guildies and pickup, usually with ppl between lv 14 and 16, which is APPROPRIATE given the fact the mobs are of the same level range. Sure, I can go in with level 18+ ppl, and get those 1% XP per quest AGAIN, but then the entire dungeon is pointless! Not to speak I have more money loss with all the wipes and this FUKKING dungeon runs give me 2 blasted spider legs and 20 copper for GODDAMN 5 hours deadly dungeon runs!
And to be blunt: I dont care a DAMN if YOU are so clever and great to make it, I AM NOT, and thats all that matters to me. SPARE me your advises or mockery, I have NO NEED for it. Those "premiere" dungeons are FAR too tough and give FAR too little loot, money and XP compared to the extreme difficulty. I am playing MMOs for 6 years, I have seen MANY MMOs and really tough dungeons, I KNOW how to play a game! So dont even THINK to berate or comment me! Adding the fact 30% of our wipes were a result of some crucial player crashing while we fought, didnt REALLY help to like this game. On top, those meager 8% XP gain I got in a 4 hour session where ALL ENTIRELY vaporized because I had a ONE MINUTE lag, after which my corpse lay in some mob area 8 levels above me, because the char had kept riding on and on all the time until the lag was finally over. So I lost MF 4 hours of meager XP and money (repair!) for a MF lag spike!
So it is really no wonder when I find myself shouting for dungeon groups hours and hours in vain now.
BTW: while I am at ranting, can someone pls tell me
a) why are the quests ALWAYS in another order when I relog?
b) WHY dont they have ANY difficulty or level indicator in the journal?
c) WHY are my buffs ALL gone when I crash but the timers are NOT reset, so I have to wait all over to rebuff??
Those things just SO add to the ENDLESS frustration which is VG. You may call me a easy-peacy whim if that satifies you, but my idea of a nice MMO evening is NOT great hardship with ZERO gain in XP and money because of a totally imbalanced game! Discs and Sorcerers have been nerfed SO bad, their use in groups is FAR too low now, just as one example.
The bottom line is: grouping does NOT pay off. I can EASILY make considerable more xp and loot soloing in the same time, which is NOT as a game is supposed to be! Maybe some uber players here as so perfect to do this easily, but I went with MANY groups into those places, and ALL of them wiped before getting ANY quest done in WEEKS! You cant tell me thats a coincidence or merely my personal fault! The balance is WAY off in this game, and ever so often I log off only with endless frustration of another evening I get out with zero gain because of crashes, bugs, loot which is totally out of balance and insane difficulty! I acutally wanted to group, not solo the open plains all the time. The sheer amount of people I met who confirmed me how many quests they just skip should be alarming.
This better is solved QUICK, Sigil! My patience with those problems is running out.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
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You need more memory. You crash because you gpu is bringing up the memory straight from the hard drvie. This will cause you alot of hitching and low fps and crashing. You should buy more ram. 512 of ram is pretty old now. Ignor the min requirements on the box. 1 gb in min 2 recommended.
Dude he has 2gigs of ram. You're refering to his VC memory which is 512mb.
I figured out grouping wasn't as viable as soloing in Vanguard a long time ago, essentially for the same reason that the possibility of dying is exponentially increased when you are tackling group content. Much easier to not die and get steady experience soloing.
Anyway, don't let it get to you. When you run into a problem, simply find something to do (like not group, like me) that avoids the problem. Quite the sucky solution to find a way to enjoying the game...but yeah.
As for your crashing problems; sorry I'm not sure why you are. I have the same exact card, amount of RAM, but just a simple Pentium 3.0 Ghz. Can't say I've crashed more than maybe once or twice since release, and I usually leave my client on accidentally most of the day after alt-tabbing. I alt-tab back in and play smoothly.
I was in that preorder early launch. Ok, since I also was in beta it felt longer. Maybe only 10 days, because I tried some alts. It is like with windchill temperature: the subjectively FELT length I play this game is strentching. The weird this is, sometimes I feel so SPENT playing VG I always felt after years of playing the same MMO. Just be assured I made many attempts to go into this and other dungeons I took as example.
People don't ask questions to get answers - they ask questions to show how smart they are. - Dogbert
Sorry for your pain, man. It is good to let it out though.
I've never had or seen the kind of crashes you are getting. I just get booted out to the login screen or the client begins lagging as it starts swapping game memory from disk. I've only had 1 blue screen and never had it lock up completely, although it looked like that at times for up to 30 seconds.
A friend of mine crashes with about the same regularity as you're seeing though. He crashes a good bit and it really <bleeps> him off. He likes the game, though, so he's bulling right on through it.
Additionally, IMO you're right about soloing for better xp. Right now that is the way to go. The only reason you need to group is to finish quests. Don't be afraid to delete them though and go on if it is holding back your leveling and that is what you want to do.
Further, the best loot & xp generally is gained by whomping on lots of 2-dot mobs that are even or 1 level below you.
I've managed, even with a bazillion deaths, to scrabble together more than 2 gold and still buy any equipment I need (within reason) with the same method.
The best xp (and less loot / time) is probably soloing or duoing even or L-1 4-dot mobs. 3-dot are ok too if there are enough of them.
Sorry you're having such troubles man. Wierd that your quests are in different order when you relog. I have had my quest tracking turned off when I relog, but not in different orders. Would be nice if they did have a difficulty level on the quest, but makes me feel like I'm not being spoon fed when I have to find out myself.
I just solo around till I need a group for a certain quest. There is always someone doing the same quest unless it is to kill some 4 dot boss which can be hard to find a full group for.
Please just remember Vanguard is not easy. If you need a break, take one. Perhaps some of the frustrating problems will be fixed by the time you come back.
"Freedom is just another name for nothing left to lose" - Janis Joplin
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lol... just messin with you man! I couldn't resist. After a paragraph like that, I'm shocked you haven't been trashed by hundreds yet....
You might want to rethink posting on public forums, especially THIS forum. The things you list you want people to "spare" you of... umm... that's what this forum specializes in.
Sorry to hear you are having such frequent lock-ups. I agree with the other poster who thought it might be heat related. Not sure, as my system is almost identical to yours, but not seeing near the lock-ups.
Seriously, you know the only sensible thing to do right? I'm sure you do you sound like a sensible guy.
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I am surprised that the developers dared to sign their names on the final 'product'.
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let me know when they fix this game
hopefully by then they'll have a free trail before i waste money on a beta product
oh and maybe they'll get some originality with the art direction while they are at it too!
but it's SOE, i'm sure the game will only get worse... like SWG! still haven't forgotten what happened to SWG, so I stay away from any and all SOE publishes....
On the dungeons, yeah some are really out of balance. i agree 100 percent with you on that, I had a similar experience in which while we fought the 3 mobs that we pulled a whole new group would spawn in the same place not even a minute into the battle we were in. I think this issue is dungeon balancing, some are perfect some are so hard I'm not sure they can be finished. Seems like getting performance in line is the focus of the developers so like many I would say avoid those dungeons you know are in need of heavy tweaking.
I can see improvements in the lag spikes for me though, generally only lagging when entering towns and on occasion while in groups but mine never seem to be more than a couple seconds even when moving across chunks. Part of my lack of issues may be the fact I run my games on a separate drive, so while I'm playing the only thing using that HD is Vanguard.
Hope that helps
ive got a weak system and have had no problem with vanguard, im loving the game personnally. as for SOE ruining the game, SOE has no control on what happens in the game they just host the servers.
I am a gamer, playing both normal games and online ones, and Vanguard is the only game/program I have stability problems with. And yes, I have run both scandisk and defrag on the hd (raid array actually) with Vanguard, updated drivers and directx, and it didn't help.