AoC since its trying something entierly new and changing one of the biggest mechanics of mmo's, the combat..no more autoattack? more skill based then other previous mmo's, count me in now thats called revolutionary..WAR's idea sounds awesome, pvp wise, but its really doing the same old combat, same old races, same old everything..
That's nothing new. I've been playing FPS games for a long time now.
then you want WAR for sieging warfare......and i really want to be an orc and take over the dwarf capital and shave there kings beard off....oh man WAR is going to be awesome
AoC since its trying something entierly new and changing one of the biggest mechanics of mmo's, the combat..no more autoattack? more skill based then other previous mmo's, count me in now thats called revolutionary..WAR's idea sounds awesome, pvp wise, but its really doing the same old combat, same old races, same old everything..
WAR will be VERY skill based, If you read up on alot of what the developers have said they have made It quite clear that u have to be good to succeed
Go play DAoC and tell me that autoattack is outdated. Dont get me wrong though, I love that AoC brings alot of new things to the MMO table, I just dont think it will work out well. The combat looks beyond shitty (in the vids) and if they dont remake the entire system I think it will be ultimately broken.
In regards to the no Autoattack thing....I guess it's a new concept even though City of X has been using a no autoattack system for years? No autoattack isn't a new thing, not even for MMOs. FPS games such as Morrowind have used it for quite a while. Theif used it. All the shooters used it.
I'm not saying one game is better than the other. I wish those comparisons would stop. Each game offers it's own special features. Base your decision on whether or not you like the features that game has to offer. If you don't like what a certain game has to offer, don't play it. Stop trying to tell people their choice of game based on what they like to play sucks. I don't like WoW. Used to play it a lot, but I hated the direction Blizzard took it so I stopped paying for it. I've moved on to other games. You don't see me on any WoW boards bashing it. If my opinion is asked, I'll give it. But I don't shove it down anyone's throat. These kinds of threads should be discussing what features make Age of Conan unique and then offering what features will make Warhammer Online unique then discussing why you might prefer one game over the other. Let people decide what they want to play based on that.
And as such, I've been a huge fan of Warhammer for over 10 years. I love the world and the lore. It has a rich and unbelievably detailed story behind each and every race. I loved RvR from DAoC but I grew tired of it after ToA was released. I wasn't in a large guild so I couldn't get in on the large Artifact raids and be able to earn the item drop needed to get the item so I stopped playing. After Mythic removed the item requirement, I went back and played for quite a while. I lost interest again with all the CC being used in RvR, so I quit playing again. I am very much looking forward to having that RvR experience again in WAR with the removal of long duration buffs (Buffbots) and CC (Yay! Much rejoicing). So between that and the fact I've been a huge follower of the High Elf army in the TT game, I am excited about WAR and that's why I plan to play.
AoC since its trying something entierly new and changing one of the biggest mechanics of mmo's, the combat..no more autoattack? more skill based then other previous mmo's, count me in now thats called revolutionary..WAR's idea sounds awesome, pvp wise, but its really doing the same old combat, same old races, same old everything..
That's nothing new. I've been playing FPS games for a long time now.
ok man, last time i checked fps's arent mmorpgs...and fps is not what i would call the correct term to identify the combat system...if you know anything about it; 6 point combat system, based on bushido i guess, you are given 6 directions to swing your sword(using the numpad or gamepad)..on top of those 6 directions you can string together special combo moves(using those 6 directions), unleashing devestating dmg and even finishing moves..Now, what MMORPG or FPS has done that?
BTW this is all without a crosshair, a essential feature for a fps to function...
On top of this, they have physics-based mounted combat; the faster you go the more dmg you do..This also requires good timing, and twitch reflexes; this is all without a crosshair, a essential feature for a fps..what fps has done this? or mmorpg for that matter?
Yet there is even more, formation combat...you can bring a group of friends or npcs, into a formation, example: You can have a formation where soldiers are infront, being the meatshield, taking all the dmg (there is collision detection), and archers in the back all moving in unison..this formation would be controlled by a flag bearer, or leader..
so, name one mmorpg, or fps for that matter....that has done these things?
I ve been playing daoc since 2001 till today in classic servers . While i was a huge fan of W.a.r ( still have hopes) , i can comment that after ea took over things have changed.
If something looks awfull thats the alpha gameplay vids that war released. I mean awfull. Terms of insipartion i found war's classes dull and overplayed. Same all warriors , fire wizzards and so on.
what concers me the most , is that the so called daoc rvr ( wich is not what it used to have been , with tons of cc and op casters today and huge balance issues terms of classes and realms) isnt quite not implemented . From what i found in net they said somehting like you kill 5k orcs u get a bonus vs them and so on. Pretty lame.
So so far while war stuff ( wich btw isnt the one that made daoc) claiming they will have revolutianary classes, rvr abilities ( where r they ? ;p) and so on so far i see boring classes, teribly design animations , lego look alike melee fights , tons of instance pvp , no rvr abilities and so on.
On the other had i was a huge flamer of aocs till i sat down and read a bit.
Although i dont like the guild vs guild thing i can say that aoc combat looks promising , classes are something new than same all pladins allthe time and graphics look great. Plus they get to have those famous rvr abilities by spending blood coins to acquire them.
Future will tell , but from what i seen so far aoc wins hands down
I ve been playing daoc since 2001 till today in classic servers . While i was a huge fan of W.a.r ( still have hopes) , i can comment that after ea took over things have changed.
If something looks awfull thats the alpha gameplay vids that war released. I mean awfull. Terms of insipartion i found war's classes dull and overplayed. Same all warriors , fire wizzards and so on.
what concers me the most , is that the so called daoc rvr ( wich is not what it used to have been , with tons of cc and op casters today and huge balance issues terms of classes and realms) isnt quite not implemented . From what i found in net they said somehting like you kill 5k orcs u get a bonus vs them and so on. Pretty lame.
So so far while war stuff ( wich btw isnt the one that made daoc) claiming they will have revolutianary classes, rvr abilities ( where r they ? ;p) and so on so far i see boring classes, teribly design animations , lego look alike melee fights , tons of instance pvp , no rvr abilities and so on.
On the other had i was a huge flamer of aocs till i sat down and read a bit.
Although i dont like the guild vs guild thing i can say that aoc combat looks promising , classes are something new than same all pladins allthe time and graphics look great. Plus they get to have those famous rvr abilities by spending blood coins to acquire them.
Future will tell , but from what i seen so far aoc wins hands down
i've been watching war pretty closely, and i think you may be misreading things.
the game is just really really new.. it's was only a month ago that we saw the first pics of any class but warrior, and any races but orc and dwarf.
seriously, those are only the 2nd class they've shown screens of, and the first time they've shown screens of humans at all, plust hey still have 3 more races to go right?
seriously though, how the hell can war try to drop at the end of 07'? there is no way.
they are no way near completion. it's 7 months from release, and we've only seen 2 classes, and 3 races, and all of them so far look really unpolished and unfinished.
there is no way war will release in 07'. no way in hell.
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then you want WAR for sieging warfare......and i really want to be an orc and take over the dwarf capital and shave there kings beard off....oh man WAR is going to be awesome
You can't say for sure yet which will have better siege warfare because we havnt really seen any for either game, and they are both focusing a lot on it, so it's going to be a bit until we can compare the siege.
And yes the new attack system for AoC (the melee at least) is very new, especially to the genre. Not the RTC concept of course but the different ways you can get into it. Autoattack obviously isn't outdated since most games use it still, but I do think RTC is going to require much more skill, while having to constantly be pressing for different attacks(no running out of endo and seeing what happens)
The main thing I'll be comparing though is the siege I think... I can't wait to get more info on both sides about it
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I'm not saying one game is better than the other. I wish those comparisons would stop. Each game offers it's own special features. Base your decision on whether or not you like the features that game has to offer. If you don't like what a certain game has to offer, don't play it. Stop trying to tell people their choice of game based on what they like to play sucks. I don't like WoW. Used to play it a lot, but I hated the direction Blizzard took it so I stopped paying for it. I've moved on to other games. You don't see me on any WoW boards bashing it. If my opinion is asked, I'll give it. But I don't shove it down anyone's throat. These kinds of threads should be discussing what features make Age of Conan unique and then offering what features will make Warhammer Online unique then discussing why you might prefer one game over the other. Let people decide what they want to play based on that.
And as such, I've been a huge fan of Warhammer for over 10 years. I love the world and the lore. It has a rich and unbelievably detailed story behind each and every race. I loved RvR from DAoC but I grew tired of it after ToA was released. I wasn't in a large guild so I couldn't get in on the large Artifact raids and be able to earn the item drop needed to get the item so I stopped playing. After Mythic removed the item requirement, I went back and played for quite a while. I lost interest again with all the CC being used in RvR, so I quit playing again. I am very much looking forward to having that RvR experience again in WAR with the removal of long duration buffs (Buffbots) and CC (Yay! Much rejoicing). So between that and the fact I've been a huge follower of the High Elf army in the TT game, I am excited about WAR and that's why I plan to play.
ok man, last time i checked fps's arent mmorpgs...and fps is not what i would call the correct term to identify the combat system...if you know anything about it; 6 point combat system, based on bushido i guess, you are given 6 directions to swing your sword(using the numpad or gamepad)..on top of those 6 directions you can string together special combo moves(using those 6 directions), unleashing devestating dmg and even finishing moves..Now, what MMORPG or FPS has done that?
BTW this is all without a crosshair, a essential feature for a fps to function...
On top of this, they have physics-based mounted combat; the faster you go the more dmg you do..This also requires good timing, and twitch reflexes; this is all without a crosshair, a essential feature for a fps..what fps has done this? or mmorpg for that matter?
Yet there is even more, formation combat...you can bring a group of friends or npcs, into a formation, example: You can have a formation where soldiers are infront, being the meatshield, taking all the dmg (there is collision detection), and archers in the back all moving in unison..this formation would be controlled by a flag bearer, or leader..
so, name one mmorpg, or fps for that matter....that has done these things?
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If something looks awfull thats the alpha gameplay vids that war released. I mean awfull. Terms of insipartion i found war's classes dull and overplayed. Same all warriors , fire wizzards and so on.
what concers me the most , is that the so called daoc rvr ( wich is not what it used to have been , with tons of cc and op casters today and huge balance issues terms of classes and realms) isnt quite not implemented . From what i found in net they said somehting like you kill 5k orcs u get a bonus vs them and so on. Pretty lame.
So so far while war stuff ( wich btw isnt the one that made daoc) claiming they will have revolutianary classes, rvr abilities ( where r they ? ;p) and so on so far i see boring classes, teribly design animations , lego look alike melee fights , tons of instance pvp , no rvr abilities and so on.
On the other had i was a huge flamer of aocs till i sat down and read a bit.
Although i dont like the guild vs guild thing i can say that aoc combat looks promising , classes are something new than same all pladins allthe time and graphics look great. Plus they get to have those famous rvr abilities by spending blood coins to acquire them.
Future will tell , but from what i seen so far aoc wins hands down
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i've been watching war pretty closely, and i think you may be misreading things.
the game is just really really new.. it's was only a month ago that we saw the first pics of any class but warrior, and any races but orc and dwarf.
seriously, those are only the 2nd class they've shown screens of, and the first time they've shown screens of humans at all, plust hey still have 3 more races to go right?
seriously though, how the hell can war try to drop at the end of 07'? there is no way.
they are no way near completion. it's 7 months from release, and we've only seen 2 classes, and 3 races, and all of them so far look really unpolished and unfinished.
there is no way war will release in 07'. no way in hell.
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Although i believe its going to be a while after 2007 before it released.
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You can't say for sure yet which will have better siege warfare because we havnt really seen any for either game, and they are both focusing a lot on it, so it's going to be a bit until we can compare the siege.
And yes the new attack system for AoC (the melee at least) is very new, especially to the genre. Not the RTC concept of course but the different ways you can get into it. Autoattack obviously isn't outdated since most games use it still, but I do think RTC is going to require much more skill, while having to constantly be pressing for different attacks(no running out of endo and seeing what happens)
The main thing I'll be comparing though is the siege I think... I can't wait to get more info on both sides about it