WH now release there game in 2007 4Q, insted of 2008 4Q. And whit only 6 classes. And a few other things, all this only becuse they are afred of losing there players to AOC. And i belive that that is tru.
Why:
Its a WOW clone, in all ways.
Whit that they kill the Combat system, the grafic and the hopes for a Awsom NEW rvr game. -------------------------------------- AOC did take the combat system to a way higher lvl, and the classes to a way higher lvl. Beside that they take the DAOC rvr system, and make it alot better, and more grp and skill based.
--------------------------------------
In the name of good, even VG out match WH. --------------------------------------
One who lost faith along time ago.
61-65 Who are u? Im uber an gonna pwn hordiez, who are you? - for unexplained reasons, two identical dazed WoWtards now sit where there use to be one. They take an instant dislike to each other.
WH now release there game in 2007 4Q, insted of 2008 4Q. And whit only 6 classes. And a few other things, all this only becuse they are afred of losing there players to AOC. And i belive that that is tru.
Why:
Its a WOW clone, in all ways.
Whit that they kill the Combat system, the grafic and the hopes for a Awsom NEW rvr game. -------------------------------------- AOC did take the combat system to a way higher lvl, and the classes to a way higher lvl. Beside that they take the DAOC rvr system, and make it alot better, and more grp and skill based.
--------------------------------------
In the name of good, even VG out match WH. --------------------------------------
First person shooter style combat is not a new higher level. They have console games for that kind of crap. PC's and MMO's in general are suppose to be about strategic combat where the character's skills are of the utmost importance rather than the player's hand/eye coordination abilities. As far as I'm concerned, AoC is making their game appeal to the console player market. Warhammer will not be in direct competition with that game on any level. I for one would get sick and tired of having to aim and direct every single attack my character makes for hours at a time. Not only would it become exhausting, but the tediousness of it would become quite apparent 2 hours into a gaming session. No thanks, I'll pass on that crap. Its the primary reason I prefer PC games over console. Action or twitch based games are exhausting and nerve wracking and I have a very hard time playing them for more than 30 minutes at a time and that does not mesh well with current MMO paradigms.
whoa, its amazing how much bullshit you can put in such a small post. Youre very gifted
First person shooter style combat is not a new higher level. They have console games for that kind of crap. PC's and MMO's in general are suppose to be about strategic combat where the character's skills are of the utmost importance rather than the player's hand/eye coordination abilities. As far as I'm concerned, AoC is making their game appeal to the console player market. Warhammer will not be in direct competition with that game on any level. I for one would get sick and tired of having to aim and direct every single attack my character makes for hours at a time. Not only would it become exhausting, but the tediousness of it would become quite apparent 2 hours into a gaming session. No thanks, I'll pass on that crap. Its the primary reason I prefer PC games over console. Action or twitch based games are exhausting and nerve wracking and I have a very hard time playing them for more than 30 minutes at a time and that does not mesh well with current MMO paradigms.
whoa, its amazing how much bullshit you can put in such a small post. Youre very gifted
I guess from now on, any opinion you give will be considered bullshit as well. You don't like my point of view, that's your business, but its not bullshit to me and can you actually prove that adding FPS style combat into a MMO is somehow revolutionay or a new higher level as was originally posted? Instead of stating a post as crap, you can actually come up with arguments to actually disprove the points of contention? I gave my reasons for my hatred of twitch combat, you don't like it fine, but you can't invalidate it with a one liner that adds nothing to the discussion.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
You're the crack head bub. FPS's came out on consoles before PC's were ever even made for public use. My old Atari 2600 can attest to that. I had that console several years before they even came out with an actual home pc, also known as the Commodore 64 and the Atari 4800.
I was going to stay out of this thread, I swear, but this is just too much...
First off, the only two historical contenders for the title of "first FPS" are Spasim and Maze War. You've probably never heard of either, as you seem to be too fucking young to have been around. Of the two, most people around at the time regard Spasim as the first, and it was released in March of 1974. This game was only played on the PLATO network, a CAI system that existed back then at the U of Illinois. All computers, no consoles. They didn't exist at the time.
The Atari 2600, which you so proudly named as your ace in the hole, was released in October of 1977. Need I say more? Incidentally, what FPSs were you playing on your Atari 2600 prior to 1982, which was the year that the C64 was released? Yes, it's a trick question.
Furthermore, I can't help but notice that it sounds like you're claiming the Commodore 64 (released in August of 1982) and the Atari 4800 (never released due to the fact that it doesn't exist) were the first home computers. I certainly hope this isn't the case, but I think it is. I think you *are* actually trying to say this. Let's examine your quote one more time to be sure...
...several years before they even came out with an actual home pc, also known as the Commodore 64 and the Atari 4800...
Yep, I'm pretty sure you said what I think you said.
How about the MITS Altair 8800 hobbykit (early 1975), the now-legendary Apple II (June, 1977), the (in)famous Rat Shack TRS-80 (August 1977), or the C-PET (December 1977)?
How about the Atari 400 and 800 machines released in late 1979? I'm going to assume that *this* is the machine (actually, machines, as one had 4K of memory and the other had 8K, hence the number designations in their model names) you were referring to when you said "Atari 4800" earlier? But if this is the case, why would you claim it was one of the first home PCs since you clumped it together with the C64 which came out over three years later?
Oh, let's not forget about the TI-99 Model 4 (also late 1979).
How about the HUGE Commodore VIC-20 (released in early 1981 in the US - 1980 in Japan), the first computer to sell over a million units?
The Osbourne 1?
Wait, wait, I know...
The IBM PC, released in August of 1981.
The Sinclair ZX81 or the ZX Spectrum, both of which also predate the C64, albeit the latter only by a matter of months?
In the face of this overwhelming evidence I have no choice but to agree with you when you state that home computers, of any sort, did not exist before the famous Commodore 64 and the fictional Atari 4800. How could I have been mistaken in thinking you were wrong?
/sarcasm
You were saying something about crack usage? Go ahead, I'm listening...
Edit: For those of you who are actually cool enough to know that Commodore had a successful home computer *before* the C64, who remembers that old VIC-20 commercial that had the Shat pimping it for "under $300" not using his idiotic Star Trek voice?
What is ment here with 'FPS' ? First Person Shooter?
I didn't start playing 'FPS games' till 1992 (probably like most of us) with Wolfenstein 3D but i guess i missed some part in history that had an FPS being released on the Atari2600 (which i also had -- PONG FTW!)
But incase i'm totally wrong or something
Nice post AtomicRobb ^^
/Edit/
First release of Spasim was in March of 1974.
Maze Wars was first released on the Alto, I beleive this was in 1976 or 1977.
Well nice history lesson, never knew. Always thought Wolfenstein3D was the "1st".
What is ment here with 'FPS' ? First Person Shooter?
I didn't start playing 'FPS games' till 1992 (probably like most of us) with Wolfenstein 3D but i guess i missed some part in history that had an FPS being released on the Atari2600 (which i also had -- PONG FTW!)
But incase i'm totally wrong or something
Nice post AtomicRobb ^^
Thanks!
And yes, most folks are of the mindset that 1992 and Wolf 3D were the beginnings of the first person shooters. The guy I was replying to was trying to get technical about it, and had said some things that simply were not factual, so I played it his way.
Edit: nwbreur, you're quite welcome. Glad I could show you something interesting from the past. It's always cool, at least to me, to know where the hobby came from in addition to appreciating how we enjoy it now. Although sometimes I'd like to lie and act like I'm not old enough to have been there for a good part of it. ;-]
Ones again sorry for my bad english, and yes i faild in shcool.
But im still going to tell my version.
Thanks for all the input to this post, to make it short. I like to put it this way.
1.
WH has nothing new to ad to the MMORPG world, but a RVR systen build over 4 steps. Then one as in DOAC.
2.
WH looks like WOW in grafic, and in skill/abilitys use. There for alot of WH is the same as WOW interface.
3.
About AOC and WH. AOC, did build a all RVR system, build on team / Guild work. The inplanted a single player game as was it Diablo, so what it give u time to laern your class, before metting the real world.
A system like this, dont hid behide a safe wall, ( RVR safe wall ) or gates/portals to a rvr Arena/area( Wow). It forces one to live in faer, and to help/back up friends. Or it give the chance to be a Aaaasins.(solo player/small rvr team.)
There combat system force the Player to not only to know how to play the class, but allso to laern use there skills.
Eks. A tank is not as any other Tank. A caster is not as any other casters. Its the player that do the diff.
4.
Personly i think. WH should have:
1. Keep the rvr system ( thou in a upen world, protected by factions guards ).
2. Get a team as the ones made (eks. L2) to make the grafic. That way even a normal computer can run it. And its alot "Hotter" to look at.
3. Build a:
Stats xp system as VG.
Faction xp System as VG.
Skill system as WOW, and the hiden Skill system.
Path system as VG.( make one even more unike the other same classes ).
Make a crafing system as SWG.
WH will not only be for the "WH-Fans" but allso for everyone els.
1: Nothing new? I'd say 24 iconic classes would be something new though. And not like the classic choise of: Warrior / Healer / Mage / Buff / Debuff).
I think what WH will make that's "new" is the intensive RvR that there's always something to kill no matter what.
2: I'd say UI looks the same in about any game. But you have to be REALLY shallow and bored sitting around comparing UI's in different games.
4;
(2) It's not that kind of game. And a crafting system like SWG? You gotta be kidding me Then you really don't get what kind of game this will be.
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
2. Get a team as the ones made (eks. L2) to make the grafic. That way even a normal computer can run it. And its alot "Hotter" to look at.
Dude, you want hot looking chicks, just browse porn. You can even pay a monthly fee for it if you want. And for the other part.
I was considering not posting on this thread any more but to keep harping that WAR looks like WoW is just getting really old. So I am going to take the Feb 16th pictures that Durahell so kindly linked to in another thread. Are you seriously going to tell me this orc looks like the Orc in WoW? Mythic is following the art style found in the various army books and game materials.
Compared to this shot of a pair of Orcs in WoW
Or how about this group of humans with a horse? Does this look like a WoW human with a horse mount?
Like in this picture of a Mounted Human?
Seriously. Look at the detail. Both the WAR Orc and Human as well as the Horse don't look like the ones from WoW.
Seriously, the orc was given its name and defined by the LotR orc, LA2 has gone one way, and Warhammers gone the other, and to be fair I prefer the Warhammer Orc, it reminds me of the savegry orcs are supposed to have rather than the girl look you so kindly gave us here.
Its boiling down to this game that people don't like it as its already got a name for its self as the next big thing, and theres fan boys out there that hate it because there next big game isn't this one because of the way there shallow minds work and they compair it to WoW.
I prefer style to realism in a game. True true, atmosphere and style makes a welcoming gesture anyday.
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
That's fine, for LA2, but that's no Warhammer Orc. Warhammer is a game with almost three decades of modeling and artwork already done - we all know exactly what a Warhammer Orc is supposed to look like. The folks at Mythic have it right, down to the muscle structure of the gaping maw. Spend some time looking at the artwork and figures on any of the GW websites, then you'll be in a better position to judge how well the guys at Mythic are doing their job.
WH now release there game in 2007 4Q, insted of 2008 4Q. And whit only 6 classes. And a few other things, all this only becuse they are afred of losing there players to AOC. And i belive that that is tru.
Why:
Its a WOW clone, in all ways.
Whit that they kill the Combat system, the grafic and the hopes for a Awsom NEW rvr game. -------------------------------------- AOC did take the combat system to a way higher lvl, and the classes to a way higher lvl. Beside that they take the DAOC rvr system, and make it alot better, and more grp and skill based.
--------------------------------------
In the name of good, even VG out match WH. --------------------------------------
Warhammer orcs have bigger mouths because they eat people and other things in one big chomp. So yea, go get one of those Rosetta stone CDs and learn to spell.
WH now release there game in 2007 4Q, insted of 2008 4Q. And whit only 6 classes. And a few other things, all this only becuse they are afred of losing there players to AOC. And i belive that that is tru.
Why:
Its a WOW clone, in all ways.
Whit that they kill the Combat system, the grafic and the hopes for a Awsom NEW rvr game. -------------------------------------- AOC did take the combat system to a way higher lvl, and the classes to a way higher lvl. Beside that they take the DAOC rvr system, and make it alot better, and more grp and skill based.
--------------------------------------
In the name of good, even VG out match WH. --------------------------------------
One who lost faith along time ago.
Its amazing how many morons in the world there are,
1) HAVE U FRICKIN PLAYED THE GAME...yes I have, nothing like WoW
2) Do u know anything about it...obviously not, because this game is MUCH different then WoW. Tard
ok, i think that the original poster does make a valid point about rushing the release to compete with AoC.
sure they are different games, but players like me will only play one, so they would want to have WAR out at the same time, so people can test it and such. i don t think it will be like WoW though. i only hope Mythic doesnt release the game too early
"The new age is upon us, yet the past refuses to rest in its shallow grave."
ok, i think that the original poster does make a valid point about rushing the release to compete with AoC.
Except that his facts are completely wrong. The game has always been scheduled for release in Q4 2007 - they've never suggested 2008. Some recent 'estimates' from the media suggest Q3, but Mythic itself is staying solid at Q4. AoC, however, recently shifted its release date from Q3 to Q4, delaying its release.
The announced schedule is:
First Stage of Closed Beta (Beta 1): Sometimes called "Friends and Family," somewhat inaccurately, this phase of beta is "EA Employee Only." At this stage there is actually a game, but it is not usually very complete or even stable for that matter. STARTED: Fall 2006
Beta 1.7, After Things Stop Going Boom Every Day: This is the stage you'll start seeing community testers. People who have tested for Mythic for years, or have been otherwise recommended to us as quality volunteer testers, are starting to be included. There is usually a restriction on how many people get in at this point, and often perfectly wonderful people are left out. STARTS: TENTATIVE DATE: Early 2007
Beta 2: Still closed and covered under NDA, invitees include prize winners, guilds that win the guild contest, and some members of the print and web media - usually the ones we have relationships with. People who work at GW retail shops are getting in here, and we've got some plans for existing Dark Age of Camelot players to be invited to check out their new sibling. There will be up to a thousand people by the end of Beta 2. STARTS: TENTATIVE DATE: Early Spring 2007
Beta 3: Closed, NDA. This is where Lady Luck will wave her wand. We will be choosing randomly from the giant pool of people who are subscribed to our newsletter. This phase will have thousands of people invited, possibly as many as ten thousand. STARTS: TENTATIVE DATE: Summer 2007
Final Beta: No NDA. Because there is no NDA, people often refer to this as "open beta." But I wanted to be really clear with you guys - we are not planning the kind of open beta where everyone with internet access can download the game and hop in. That's nutty. Right now, we are tentatively considering having everyone who pre-orders the game invited to this phase of beta. This phase will also invite winners from our big media promotions. STARTS: TENTATIVE DATE: Summer 2007
WH now release there game in 2007 4Q, insted of 2008 4Q. And whit only 6 classes. And a few other things, all this only becuse they are afred of losing there players to AOC. And i belive that that is tru.
Why:
Its a WOW clone, in all ways.
Whit that they kill the Combat system, the grafic and the hopes for a Awsom NEW rvr game. -------------------------------------- AOC did take the combat system to a way higher lvl, and the classes to a way higher lvl. Beside that they take the DAOC rvr system, and make it alot better, and more grp and skill based.
--------------------------------------
In the name of good, even VG out match WH. --------------------------------------
I was going to reply here... but I've been staring at the OP's post and this empty reply box... And quite honestly, I don't even know where to start... :P
Richard J. Cox "There were much of the beautiful, much of the wanton, much of the bizarre, something of the terrible, and not a little of that which might have excited disgust."
I was going to reply here... but I've been staring at the OP's post and this empty reply box... And quite honestly, I don't even know where to start... :P
You could try laughing like everyone else does
$OE lies list http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0 " And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
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I guess from now on, any opinion you give will be considered bullshit as well. You don't like my point of view, that's your business, but its not bullshit to me and can you actually prove that adding FPS style combat into a MMO is somehow revolutionay or a new higher level as was originally posted? Instead of stating a post as crap, you can actually come up with arguments to actually disprove the points of contention? I gave my reasons for my hatred of twitch combat, you don't like it fine, but you can't invalidate it with a one liner that adds nothing to the discussion.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
I was going to stay out of this thread, I swear, but this is just too much...
First off, the only two historical contenders for the title of "first FPS" are Spasim and Maze War. You've probably never heard of either, as you seem to be too fucking young to have been around. Of the two, most people around at the time regard Spasim as the first, and it was released in March of 1974. This game was only played on the PLATO network, a CAI system that existed back then at the U of Illinois. All computers, no consoles. They didn't exist at the time.
The Atari 2600, which you so proudly named as your ace in the hole, was released in October of 1977. Need I say more? Incidentally, what FPSs were you playing on your Atari 2600 prior to 1982, which was the year that the C64 was released? Yes, it's a trick question.
Furthermore, I can't help but notice that it sounds like you're claiming the Commodore 64 (released in August of 1982) and the Atari 4800 (never released due to the fact that it doesn't exist) were the first home computers. I certainly hope this isn't the case, but I think it is. I think you *are* actually trying to say this. Let's examine your quote one more time to be sure...
Yep, I'm pretty sure you said what I think you said.
How about the MITS Altair 8800 hobbykit (early 1975), the now-legendary Apple II (June, 1977), the (in)famous Rat Shack TRS-80 (August 1977), or the C-PET (December 1977)?
How about the Atari 400 and 800 machines released in late 1979? I'm going to assume that *this* is the machine (actually, machines, as one had 4K of memory and the other had 8K, hence the number designations in their model names) you were referring to when you said "Atari 4800" earlier? But if this is the case, why would you claim it was one of the first home PCs since you clumped it together with the C64 which came out over three years later?
Oh, let's not forget about the TI-99 Model 4 (also late 1979).
How about the HUGE Commodore VIC-20 (released in early 1981 in the US - 1980 in Japan), the first computer to sell over a million units?
The Osbourne 1?
Wait, wait, I know...
The IBM PC, released in August of 1981.
The Sinclair ZX81 or the ZX Spectrum, both of which also predate the C64, albeit the latter only by a matter of months?
In the face of this overwhelming evidence I have no choice but to agree with you when you state that home computers, of any sort, did not exist before the famous Commodore 64 and the fictional Atari 4800. How could I have been mistaken in thinking you were wrong?
/sarcasm
You were saying something about crack usage? Go ahead, I'm listening...
Edit: For those of you who are actually cool enough to know that Commodore had a successful home computer *before* the C64, who remembers that old VIC-20 commercial that had the Shat pimping it for "under $300" not using his idiotic Star Trek voice?
Wanna remember it again? ;-]
http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/57/
What is ment here with 'FPS' ? First Person Shooter?
I didn't start playing 'FPS games' till 1992 (probably like most of us) with Wolfenstein 3D but i guess i missed some part in history that had an FPS being released on the Atari2600 (which i also had -- PONG FTW!)
But incase i'm totally wrong or something
Nice post AtomicRobb ^^
/Edit/
First release of Spasim was in March of 1974.
Maze Wars was first released on the Alto, I beleive this was in 1976 or 1977.
Well nice history lesson, never knew. Always thought Wolfenstein3D was the "1st".
/Edit/
Thanks!
And yes, most folks are of the mindset that 1992 and Wolf 3D were the beginnings of the first person shooters. The guy I was replying to was trying to get technical about it, and had said some things that simply were not factual, so I played it his way.
Incidentally, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First-person_shooter if you're really all that curious. Cheers!
Edit: nwbreur, you're quite welcome. Glad I could show you something interesting from the past. It's always cool, at least to me, to know where the hobby came from in addition to appreciating how we enjoy it now. Although sometimes I'd like to lie and act like I'm not old enough to have been there for a good part of it. ;-]
Ones again sorry for my bad english, and yes i faild in shcool.
But im still going to tell my version.
Thanks for all the input to this post, to make it short. I like to put it this way.
1.
WH has nothing new to ad to the MMORPG world, but a RVR systen build over 4 steps. Then one as in DOAC.
2.
WH looks like WOW in grafic, and in skill/abilitys use. There for alot of WH is the same as WOW interface.
3.
About AOC and WH. AOC, did build a all RVR system, build on team / Guild work. The inplanted a single player game as was it Diablo, so what it give u time to laern your class, before metting the real world.
A system like this, dont hid behide a safe wall, ( RVR safe wall ) or gates/portals to a rvr Arena/area( Wow). It forces one to live in faer, and to help/back up friends. Or it give the chance to be a Aaaasins.(solo player/small rvr team.)
There combat system force the Player to not only to know how to play the class, but allso to laern use there skills.
Eks. A tank is not as any other Tank. A caster is not as any other casters. Its the player that do the diff.
4.
Personly i think. WH should have:
1. Keep the rvr system ( thou in a upen world, protected by factions guards ).
2. Get a team as the ones made (eks. L2) to make the grafic. That way even a normal computer can run it. And its alot "Hotter" to look at.
3. Build a:
Stats xp system as VG.
Faction xp System as VG.
Skill system as WOW, and the hiden Skill system.
Path system as VG.( make one even more unike the other same classes ).
Make a crafing system as SWG.
WH will not only be for the "WH-Fans" but allso for everyone els.
WH go Get em Tiger
And Yes Im Am:
The ArzhAngel - And Yes I Am a ................
1: Nothing new? I'd say 24 iconic classes would be something new though. And not like the classic choise of: Warrior / Healer / Mage / Buff / Debuff).
I think what WH will make that's "new" is the intensive RvR that there's always something to kill no matter what.
2: I'd say UI looks the same in about any game. But you have to be REALLY shallow and bored sitting around comparing UI's in different games.
4;
(2) It's not that kind of game. And a crafting system like SWG? You gotta be kidding me
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I was considering not posting on this thread any more but to keep harping that WAR looks like WoW is just getting really old. So I am going to take the Feb 16th pictures that Durahell so kindly linked to in another thread. Are you seriously going to tell me this orc looks like the Orc in WoW? Mythic is following the art style found in the various army books and game materials.
Compared to this shot of a pair of Orcs in WoW
Or how about this group of humans with a horse? Does this look like a WoW human with a horse mount?
Like in this picture of a Mounted Human?
Seriously. Look at the detail. Both the WAR Orc and Human as well as the Horse don't look like the ones from WoW.
Nop not at all... and thats never what i meant.
But Its still all CATOONS
WH orc.
LA2 orc.
Pleace Look And Laern ... WH.
Other graic just all around.
WH gallery: Here.
*Thou atless the human races/types are looking better and better.
LA2 gallery: Here.
SWG gallery: Here.
VG gallery: Here.
No No wait I get it, its a Hulk look alike,
Seriously, the orc was given its name and defined by the LotR orc, LA2 has gone one way, and Warhammers gone the other, and to be fair I prefer the Warhammer Orc, it reminds me of the savegry orcs are supposed to have rather than the girl look you so kindly gave us here.
Its boiling down to this game that people don't like it as its already got a name for its self as the next big thing, and theres fan boys out there that hate it because there next big game isn't this one because of the way there shallow minds work and they compair it to WoW.
I pitty you.
Die Noctique, By Day and Night
I prefer style to realism in a game.
"It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society."
~J. Krishnamurti
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I prefer style to realism in a game. True true, atmosphere and style makes a welcoming gesture anyday.
$OE lies list
http://www.rlmmo.com/viewtopic.php?t=424&start=0
"
And I don't want to hear anything about "I don't believe in vampires" because *I* don't believe in vampires, but I believe in my own two eyes, and what *I* saw is ******* vampires! "
I snapped my pencil reading your crying blog.
You owe me a new pencil.
1) HAVE U FRICKIN PLAYED THE GAME...yes I have, nothing like WoW
2) Do u know anything about it...obviously not, because this game is MUCH different then WoW. Tard
ok, i think that the original poster does make a valid point about rushing the release to compete with AoC.
sure they are different games, but players like me will only play one, so they would want to have WAR out at the same time, so people can test it and such. i don t think it will be like WoW though. i only hope Mythic doesnt release the game too early
"The new age is upon us, yet the past refuses to rest in its shallow grave."
Except that his facts are completely wrong. The game has always been scheduled for release in Q4 2007 - they've never suggested 2008. Some recent 'estimates' from the media suggest Q3, but Mythic itself is staying solid at Q4. AoC, however, recently shifted its release date from Q3 to Q4, delaying its release.
The announced schedule is:
First Stage of Closed Beta (Beta 1): Sometimes called "Friends and Family," somewhat inaccurately, this phase of beta is "EA Employee Only." At this stage there is actually a game, but it is not usually very complete or even stable for that matter. STARTED: Fall 2006
Beta 1.7, After Things Stop Going Boom Every Day: This is the stage you'll start seeing community testers. People who have tested for Mythic for years, or have been otherwise recommended to us as quality volunteer testers, are starting to be included. There is usually a restriction on how many people get in at this point, and often perfectly wonderful people are left out. STARTS: TENTATIVE DATE: Early 2007
Beta 2: Still closed and covered under NDA, invitees include prize winners, guilds that win the guild contest, and some members of the print and web media - usually the ones we have relationships with. People who work at GW retail shops are getting in here, and we've got some plans for existing Dark Age of Camelot players to be invited to check out their new sibling. There will be up to a thousand people by the end of Beta 2. STARTS: TENTATIVE DATE: Early Spring 2007
Beta 3: Closed, NDA. This is where Lady Luck will wave her wand. We will be choosing randomly from the giant pool of people who are subscribed to our newsletter. This phase will have thousands of people invited, possibly as many as ten thousand. STARTS: TENTATIVE DATE: Summer 2007
Final Beta: No NDA. Because there is no NDA, people often refer to this as "open beta." But I wanted to be really clear with you guys - we are not planning the kind of open beta where everyone with internet access can download the game and hop in. That's nutty. Right now, we are tentatively considering having everyone who pre-orders the game invited to this phase of beta. This phase will also invite winners from our big media promotions. STARTS: TENTATIVE DATE: Summer 2007
Tentative Release: Q4 2007
current game:
world of warcraft.
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