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Paladins/Phoenix Knight
Hi there, I know I am still new, Recently I just bought L2 , I have seen some screenshot and it looks great ( graphic wise).
Anyway just to the point, can someone here tell me about tanks. I was thinking to start a Paladin and later on as a Phoenix Knight.. I have looked at their skillset and its quite nice. I never played mmos before, not even WoW, but I played Neverwinter Nights, and I always play as a Pally. I would love to hear some of you who played this class maybe you could give some pros and cons about this class as well. So please bear with me , I know am still a rookie but I really need some feedback as to whether or not choosing a Pally is a good idea. If you think the other tank classess are worth while could you please explain me why, I might consider to try what you suggest. Thanks in advance
Anyway just to the point, can someone here tell me about tanks. I was thinking to start a Paladin and later on as a Phoenix Knight.. I have looked at their skillset and its quite nice. I never played mmos before, not even WoW, but I played Neverwinter Nights, and I always play as a Pally. I would love to hear some of you who played this class maybe you could give some pros and cons about this class as well. So please bear with me , I know am still a rookie but I really need some feedback as to whether or not choosing a Pally is a good idea. If you think the other tank classess are worth while could you please explain me why, I might consider to try what you suggest. Thanks in advance
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They have low attack power and no big damage dealing skills.
Since they have low attack power they are relatively slow to level - most of the population consists of damage dealing classes and support classes, neither of which would really want to duo with a tank, but tanks can be useful in larger parties to reduce the amount of mana
the healers spend.
Tanks are necessary to defeat raid bosses, since some raidbosses can kill most classes with a few hits.
One tank will usually be enough for a raidboss. The tank keeps the raidboss focused on himself/herself ("keeps aggro") by using hate so that other classes don't get injured.
Depending on which clan you join fighting raid bosses might be a rarity (you can't really level off raidbosses unless your clan is very organised).
In mass pvp (player-vs-player) combat tanks will probably be the last ones alive, but will rarely kill anyone.
In 1vs1 buffed pvp, tanks will die to most classes.
Also note that you can't start as a Paladin - reaching level 40 will take some time. If you start from scratch it might take you a month depending on how much time you put in each day.
Reaching Phoenix Knight isn't something you should think about if you have never played a mmorpg before. Once you are past 40 and played your class for a while, reconsider if you really like the class -
Levelling to 40 is trivial compared to the time it takes to get to your third class change.
You would really have to love the game to get Phoenix Knight - at level 75 you get less than 0.01% for each monster kill.
I've never played a Paladin, but have played with a few.
If I chose a tank class I would probably choose a dark avenger since they are the tank class capable of the most damage output (and their cat looks cool)
Well now your getting into the sub-class talk.I never been there,chances are never will ( Very difficult and long, legit) but Sovrath might be able to help ya out ,he's been a dedicated player since OB. I'm doing a Orc destroyer now and loving every second of it. Although when the money starts flowing ( if ever ) I wanna make a Light Elf and go Elven Elder,something about them that makes me wanna keep on reaching my goals.
But anyways give Sov a shout,I'm sure he could steer you in the right direction
Waiting on Guild Wars 2
Thanks for the nod Praor
(though it was Prelude, but "close enough"
)
3rd Class change seems to grant some significant power to many classes. However, it really is a long way away, especially for a tank.
The problem with tanks is that unless you have a clan/alliance that does a lot of raids or groups in some of the thornier areas, you might not be needed as much.
Lately, I've been duoing the Silenos with a lvl 74 (now 75) Paladin and it works very well. Though I probably could solo it, the aggro control makes things go a lot faster.
But many people solo and get several DD's together and you have no need for a tank. It's a hard road.
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Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Waiting on Guild Wars 2
I played a gladiator, he's a damage dealer, lvl 70, full setup. Buy it off me now. Cheapo lol. Full A grade set, hindemith.
Cryomatrix
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Play what you want. However, in L2 the classes really are what they are. So yes... tanks are tough. They also kill mobs really slowly (compared to some other classes.)
But if you "like" playing a tank then say no more!
Even though the grind is "easier", it is still a harsh grind 9especially in higher levels. So you might as well play what you like. You will be with it for a loooong time.
Godfred's Tomb Trailer: https://youtu.be/-nsXGddj_4w
Original Skyrim: https://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/109547
Serph toze kindly has started a walk-through. https://youtu.be/UIelCK-lldo
Is it flying through the levels to hit 75 to subclass or is it the intrinsic fun you have in your class. I chose gladiator for the intrinsic fun of the class, however, i got bored playing it and i realized what was fun for me was flying through the levels and enjoying my class. Gladiator was really fun to play but by the time i hit the 60's i was dying in terms of leveling up, i mean it cost an arm and a leg to level up. So make sure you know what makes you happy. I'd probably be still playing the game if i chose archer and/or nuker first. Cuz i'd be probably in my 60's on my sub-class
Also, nukers aren't as money-sensitive as other classes.
Thus, make sure you know what you want out of the game. I basically played L2 for two reasons to have fun with my class and afford A grade legitimately. I got bored of the first goal and achieved the second, thus no point for me to continue playing the game. I also could not stand the community. Many people were very mature and helping, but i couldn't stand the cheating and lying behind it. If you ebay, admit it, if you bot admit it and move on. But no . . . People would hit lvl 61, put on full A grade and when you ask them how, they're like, a friend quit and gave me all his stuff hahah.
Either way just to warn you, the game is long and hard or long and expensive. The hard part = being legit financially and the expensive part is ebaying. You need to be pretty much at least lvl 61 (A-grade) to really get into the politics and upper levels of the game and that will take awhile. Furthermore, if you choose to be legit enjoy keeping L2 running 24/7 while you're in sell and/or buy mode.
The economy is in reality stupid hard and poorly designed or just the years of "poor bot maintenance" has fubarred everything.
Basically, my final warning is, this is going to be a long and arduous or a long and expensive thing you are getting into, make sure you will have fun doing it. Because if not, then ditch the game and look for something else.
I turned to EVE but that is boring me to all hell. Also, after playing EVE i can't legitimately play another MMO like WoW or L2 as i'll be feeling stupid playing to gain exp, where in EVE it does it for you. But oh well, I'll wait for a hybrid.
Cryomatrix
P.S. I also am going to *smack* Torak just for the hell of it.
You can see my sci-fi/WW2 book recommendations.
Ok, if you're down with the sword and shield, impossible to kill kind of character here's a brief run-down. Note that some of this might be slightly out of date since I haven't played hardcore in almost a year but I do try to keep up on the class and game changes. Keep in mind that tanks in this game have very limited use in day-to-day grouping, and they're not the best solo classes either. But they are very useful when used properly in PvP. They serve a disruption role by trying to distract and taunt enemies into attacking them. Tanks will very rarely kill someone, but they are still extremely important because they can completely occupy enemy healers and make them unable to keep their guys alive.
Primary Tanks-
I would probably go with a SK or DA, leaning toward the SK because it's just more interesting to play and cooler looking with the cubics (IMO). You can go TK or Paladin if you're really determined to be an unkillable leviathan, but the road to glory will be especially slow and perilous.
There are a few other classes you may want to look at, we call them Heavy Melees-
Keep in mind that all of these classes are probably the hardest classes in the entire game to level up or PvP with. They are far from useless, but it may feel that way at times. But from someone who has PvPed with the top players on my server regularly, all of the interesting and skilled tactics in the game involve these classes. They serve a very important role BECAUSE they are so underestimated and rare. If you're good at whichever you choose to play, you stand the chance to become a legend!
There's no reason to play a TK unless you want to be the TK hero.
At max level, TKs and Paladins have nearly the same statistics. And I think Paladin's healing abilities make them a more versatile and useful class than the TK.
Poor TKs... at least they get a hate cubic soon.
A phoenix knight with an arcana mace and oe sacrifice can instantly heal himself for more hp.
And a paladin has about 200-300 more pdef than a TK because of majesty. You should check l2calc again.
My character in L2 is Paladin lvl 69. I was a novice when I chose it (being my first character), and I knew not many things, well, at least not as many as I know now.
Paladins are very few in Lineage 2, primarily because they have absolutely no offensive skills (apart from those that affect undead and tribunal). They are extremely difficult to level - that's why almost everyone prefers to play their evil twin, Dark Avenger. All in all, it takes a lot of time, and most importantly, dedication, to play a Paladin. His nature is not that of the damage dealer - not even in the Dark Avenger or Shilien Knight style. He is a pure support class and cannot be treated in another way.
It is true, as stated in previous response, that Pally is an extremely underplayed tank. However, the class has its merits. It is the suberb fighter class against undead, and is as well the only fighter class that stands a chance against the all-powerful necromancer, because he has extreme defensive capabilities to dark magic and undead, the two heacy weapons of necromancers. He is very hard to kill, he is very resilient to pvp hate aura and he can - with the right setup - be used as a first-line medic (whereas a bishop or elven elder would put himself at great danger).
And, in massive pvp, he can run in the middle of the enemies, spam hate aura, use Ultimate defense, mass root the enemies (he alone of all fighter classes), heal himself while attacked, stun, and if things go tough, use Angelic icon, becoming, with the last of his powers, a deadly damage dealer.
He surely is not an easy class to play. In fact, he is the hardest fighter class to level up, along with Temple Knight. So, it is not for everyone to choose it. You should choose it only if you really like its characteristics and the role it plays in game.