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Wow, the world isn't very big, but Nikoz78 is full of BS. Whatever...
Sorry about being rude, I just have a very different opinion then you.
Have fun in whatever game you play.
About the graphics its beautiful if you go to the shire you'll want to live there, its not just about the graphics but the atmosphere the game creates with music and art design, I couldn't care less about it being large or small if it haves enough content to keep me playing and having fun then its a winner to me
Well, judging by comments like this and especially the one below his - it's going to be a WoW community.
I DID run everywhere and did not die a single time. What is so hard about steering through aggro.
What has no credibility are these negative comments - you expose yourselves as biased. Whereas I point out some positives.
I come from MMO's like UO, EverQuest, Pre-CU SWG and now Vanguard. You will never understand where gamers like me are coming from.
And at least I'm friendly and act mature. Emotional much?
Also, don't make me laugh with insinuating that this game is 'challenging.' You could be a level 50 and that would not mean squat.
It's an easy-mode game designed to appeal to the masses. Kinda like pop-music.
Nikoz is a liar. There is no way he ran across the whole world at such a low level. No way. He would be killed in one hit by the level 35-40 creatures on the road to Rivendell. Aggro covers the entire road in multiple areas, you cant steer around it. No to mention other areas like the Old Forest or Barrow Downs or Angmar that have aggro all over them. He is obviously just making that up so he can talk smack about LotRO and pretend he knows what he's talking about. I cant believe some of you would take him seriously. What a joke.
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The world is as small as your IQ.
So how small are the world again?
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Areas like the Grey Havens are shown on the map and it is easy to see how to get there, but when you go there, a gate is blocking your way.
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Why dont you explain this EPIC adventure you're looking for. I'm not sure what you're saying. Was it epic to just travel for along time to get to the adventure? I can read the section of the book about the haunted forest faster than i can do all the content there. Are you saying it would make the haunted forest better if it took an hour to get there? Give some specifics man, or else your just BS'in. You also dont consider there are caves, and dungeons, and ruins that are instanced through out the areas, some of them are huge.
Again, im not sure what you're saying. It seems you just mean there should be a timesink to make it appear to be epic, but i dont wanna put words in your mouth. This game isnt hard or difficult, neither is vanguard. One just has bigger timesinks. For a vet of MMO's you should be able to see through this stuff by now. Smaller world=smaller timesink=casual gamer=bigger playerbase. With an IP like LOTR it would be unfair to its fans to make it so time consumming, especially since they went with Lord of the Rings, rather than Middle Earth Online. You shouldnt be shocked or have expected them to do anything else. You know better..you've been around MMORPGs to long not to.
It's about having fun with your friends in familiar locations in middle-earth. Not about competition. If you would try playing the game with your friends rather than just running through the world just to see whats bad about it...you might of found that it WAS an EPIC adventure. My god man..we finially have an MMO thats based on the REAL THING. This is the IP that every other fantasy game, including vanguard, has based their cheese lore on. Personally, id rather play a game that you can be a "real' elf in the 'real' middle earth and have a tiny world, than a generic elf in a generic world that is huge. I like to play with people that have a similar interest in the lore, rather than game mechanics. All of which are just click on something..press a button. Only difference is how long you're waiting in hard-core vs casual..you know that. Some people prefer long waits..most dont. I wanted a sandbox virtual middle earth personally. But, that doesnt blind me to the fact this game is gonna be huge, nor did it make me miss the fun and good times i had with other fans of this IP. But if having a huge world is soo important to you that your willing to accept that the world your in isnt even comic book worthy..then so be it.
See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
But thats hardly the point. It should at least take 5 minutes not 67 seconds.
A good 10 min run between the two might give you an idea of what I think the size the world should be.
Trolls: Play that fanboy card. Just giving my honest opinion about the game. /peace
That's probably true, but I'm not sure ONE particular case constitutes a global fact about the game. Now if you told me that it took 15 minutes to see every zone... I'd be worried.
You also fail to back up your complaint with proper context. How big is the entire landscape in Tolkien's books compared to LOTRO? Are the ratios true? Do you still feel like you are entering different landscapes?
How does the game compare to others like WoW? Vanguard (this one wouldn't matter to me however =p).
game design 101?
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See you in the dream..
The Fires from heaven, now as cold as ice. A rapid ascension tolls a heavy price.
Not saying film is bad. But it is far far far away from anything but meek hollywood illustration of some parts of the book
"Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas
Well one reason there is such a backlash on the subject is that it has been beaten to death long before you posted. World is to small.....well...if thats how you feel, then it is. Really gotta ask yourself does it make a difference? If it does, then its not your game.
Was LotR about the actual physical journey? Not really. It was about the epic struggle between the ultimate evil and good. Frodo and the hobbits represented the common man. To make a long story short it was about temptation and the ultimate burden of the common man to change the world and not rely on the "greater powers" that be. Will THAT be conveyed in LotRO???? Will moral choice come into play as it did in the books???? Being an MMO, probably not.
About the game, maybe its not hard to polish a small game, I wouldn't know I'm not a dev. Based on past experience I would say it easier for a company to keep with realistic goals rather then unrealistic ones. How many more examples of crashed "geographically large" games do you need? There isn't one thats pulled it off. IF Turbine can manage to stay focused on LotRs for more then 6 months and adds to it, this title will be very successful. That will be the challenge for Turbine not us the players.
Healthy growth after a STRONG launch will keep renewing interest. As far as I know, this game has already done very well in pre-orders. Lets see if LotRs can launch.
But its' big. I ran from the dwarft starting place, to the ford below Rivendell where the road sort of ends and I had to climb around a bunch of lvl 40 bears (was lvl 9). They one-shotted me. But that run took hours...
Not saying film is bad. But it is far far far away from anything but meek hollywood illustration of some parts of the book
No, the movie was spectacular. What you are comparing it to is what your imagination came up with, or what you assume Tolkien was seeing in his mind's eye.
As to the latter we can never know as words are a poor medium at best for relaying full sensory experiences. Mind you, they are almost all we have to work with, but that doesn't make them good.
What LOTR the movies did was give us the best possible visual interpretation we could have ever expected from anyone but ourselves.. if you know what I mean by that. And even had you the funds and the equipment your vision still may not have translated as you'd imagined.
Now, all that aside, I liked the books better myself.
Not saying film is bad. But it is far far far away from anything but meek hollywood illustration of some parts of the book
No, the movie was spectacular. What you are comparing it to is what your imagination came up with, or what you assume Tolkien was seeing in his mind's eye.
As to the latter we can never know as words are a poor medium at best for relaying full sensory experiences. Mind you, they are almost all we have to work with, but that doesn't make them good.
What LOTR the movies did was give us the best possible visual interpretation we could have ever expected from anyone but ourselves.. if you know what I mean by that. And even had you the funds and the equipment your vision still may not have translated as you'd imagined.
Now, all that aside, I liked the books better myself.
nononono the movies are the most overrated movies ever made...except for the first one, i kinda like it is more beautiful than the other two..never mind....you will only know this if you truly read the books, than you will see how much Jackson (or his wife
) has destroyed...its a shame
this game has great lore, Tolkien would be glad.... i cant say that for the films...
Not saying film is bad. But it is far far far away from anything but meek hollywood illustration of some parts of the book
No, the movie was spectacular. What you are comparing it to is what your imagination came up with, or what you assume Tolkien was seeing in his mind's eye.
As to the latter we can never know as words are a poor medium at best for relaying full sensory experiences. Mind you, they are almost all we have to work with, but that doesn't make them good.
What LOTR the movies did was give us the best possible visual interpretation we could have ever expected from anyone but ourselves.. if you know what I mean by that. And even had you the funds and the equipment your vision still may not have translated as you'd imagined.
Now, all that aside, I liked the books better myself.
nononono the movies are the most overrated movies ever made...except for the first one, i kinda like it is more beautiful than the other two..never mind....you will only know this if you truly read the books, than you will see how much Jackson (or his wife
) has destroyed...its a shame
this game has great lore, Tolkien would be glad.... i cant say that for the films...
"overrated"
I don't use this word much, as I can never figure out where the 'rating' is coming from.. and tbh the only rating I really consider is my own. I mean if I were to take everyones opinion to heart I'd hate most of the games I actually enjoy.
What I was saying is that as far as movie production, budgets, effects capabilities and availabe actors I don't know what you naysayers think could have been done better other than bring in that one bit of lore they missed that you yourself feel was important. If every critic had their input the movie would have turned out unwatchable.
And please don't say things like, "..truly read the books..", it killed the whole point you were trying to make. If you like to think you are the only one here who really enjoyed the depth of Tolkiens work, so be it, but pushing someone's disagreement with you into a "you don't know the books like I do" argument is old.
Not saying film is bad. But it is far far far away from anything but meek hollywood illustration of some parts of the book Its hard to put such a big story as the Lotro in a movie of a few hours.
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LOL!!!!! comparing what the frodo did in the books to what happens all the time in a game is just too funny. Of course you didn't see him do that cause it is a story you are reading. In the game you are playing a character that you have to lvl up so yes you will have to do quests and grind some mobs.
You know what you said........
Initial impression, haven't been everywhere yet in stress test, but it feels like around 50-60% of WoW. Maybe like one of the WoW islands... although I've not been north yet. I think it's plenty big enough to play for a few months, max level, do some high-end raids and pvp for a month or so after that. It's a good 4-5 month game to play over the summer imo.... maybe jump over to AoC or WAR .... IF they come thru...
But its' big. I ran from the dwarft starting place, to the ford below Rivendell where the road sort of ends and I had to climb around a bunch of lvl 40 bears (was lvl 9). They one-shotted me. But that run took hours...
That has to be the most immature thing I ever read, get a grip.
People like this are like the people boo-hooing over at the SWG forums, they claim the game is full of immature players and the community has gone to heck then flame and cuss out anyone who disagrees.