I got interested in this game just before Christmas when it was slated for I believe a next month release. Now that seenes to have been pushed way back.
The pushback was for the sake of final tweaks and polishing the game further. It is as always possible that a further delay may occur, but I'd bet against it at this stage.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
In a way I'm glad they pushed back the date. And I'm glad Microsoft is backing them, at least we know AoC won't pull a Vanguard on us. I'm thinking this game will probably hit around Xmas time, marketing reasons. But this should be enough to get the game rolling bug free.
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In a way I'm glad they pushed back the date. And I'm glad Microsoft is backing them, at least we know AoC won't pull a Vanguard on us. I'm thinking this game will probably hit around Xmas time, marketing reasons. But this should be enough to get the game rolling bug free.
I never thought about the X-mas thing. It definatly would boost sales.
But anyway I don´t belive in the Christmas Marketing Boost. Poeple who want to buy something do it no matter what time of the year it is. And the most money made with a mmorpg is the monthly fee anyway.
From everything I've heard, the game could release right now and be more polished than 95% of the MMOs out there. I think pushing the release date out is due more to avoiding a crowded window than because it needs 6 months more polish (though it will, of course, certainly benefit from it). They would have been competing with Vanguard, LoTRO and (likely) Gods and Heros, all during the same basic timeframe.
Now, however, they will pick-up a lot more people who will be disilliusioned and jumping ship on those titles at about that time, since that will be about the time the "new" has worn off (which has already happened for me with Vanguard {bug infested PoS}.
If the delay was simply to avoid competition, they would have slated it for late summer.
As of right now, they will be competing with Warhammer, and to be honest, its the only game this year that will be remotely competing for the same kind of crowd.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee. Hemingway
Im glad of the move back to october its the month of my bday, and if I had any true friends they would buy it for me, and it also gives me time to get all the upgrades for my computer that I need. Plus it will make the beta experience all the better.
I think it's a smart move for them to narrow their competition down to warhammer. Really, they're different style of games as far as I've seen and even if they come out at different times, people with different styles and tastes will leave either one for the other to get in where they fit in. For me the difference between the two are like the difference between the old Rainbow Six games and the Battlefield series. Both the same genre but very different play styles. Actually I think the difference between the two helped eachother in a way, since for awhile a lot of people I know were playing both instead of choosing one or the other.
It's going to be a tiresome wait though. There really isn't anything to play until then, in any genre for me at least.
Basicly there are two explanations for the delay...
1) Watch what Warhammer is doing, shortly after they announced the release date would be pushed back, Funcom delayed AoC. As a bonus, we get an more polished game come release.
2) The delay gives AoC a one up on Warhammer; it allows Funcom to release the PC and 360 versions at the same time. A dual platform release is a diffirenciator for AoC in the MMO market place which companies making "me too" products love to have.
Those that think the 360 version will be a year or even a quarter behind the PC release since they announced the push back to Q3,are kidding themselves.
2) The delay gives AoC a one up on Warhammer; it allows Funcom to release the PC and 360 versions at the same time. A dual platform release is a diffirenciator for AoC in the MMO market place which companies making "me too" products love to have.
Those that think the 360 version will be a year or even a quarter behind the PC release since they announced the push back to Q3,are kidding themselves.
Well since it has been stated in interviews AFTER the delay, that the 360 version would be released after the PC version there isn't much credit to you statement, now is there? Perhaps you should rethink who is kidding themselves.
Since we have seen almost no footage of the magic system, or little info of any kind on it, I'm guessing the delay was made because...dun dun dun...Funcom needed more time. gasp I know it's an odd concept, developers taking more time to deliver a smooth, well funtioning product instead of pushing it out the door, but Funcom did that once, with AO. This time around I see them taking as much time as they need to keep the promises they've made.
How would delaying the release till it has to compete with WAR a good marketing move? There are two MMOs coming out this year: AoC and WAR, thats it. Vanbug, LOTRO, and GnH are not even on the same level, and this game could have only done better if it had launched against that quality of competition. Instead it now has to go head-to-head with another high-quality, PvP centered game...
yes its going to be War or Conan but dont over hype urself because so far War has shown many things thats 1st time been done in mmorpg and Conan has none.
Basicly there are two explanations for the delay... 1) Watch what Warhammer is doing, shortly after they announced the release date would be pushed back, Funcom delayed AoC. As a bonus, we get an more polished game come release. 2) The delay gives AoC a one up on Warhammer; it allows Funcom to release the PC and 360 versions at the same time. A dual platform release is a diffirenciator for AoC in the MMO market place which companies making "me too" products love to have. Those that think the 360 version will be a year or even a quarter behind the PC release since they announced the push back to Q3,are kidding themselves.
What you said...or maybe the fact the that they just re-made the entire character system, consolidating all of the character classes into a few???
NAH...couldn't be...
- How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
- I don't know, but some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?
In a way I'm glad they pushed back the date. And I'm glad Microsoft is backing them, at least we know AoC won't pull a Vanguard on us. I'm thinking this game will probably hit around Xmas time, marketing reasons. But this should be enough to get the game rolling bug free.
Funny you mention that...which company was backing Vanguard???
- How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
- I don't know, but some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?
From everything I've heard, the game could release right now and be more polished than 95% of the MMOs out there.
More polished than other games right now?... please.... its not more polished than WAR is right now.
Nope, and if the developers were smart they would push back to sometime in 08 or launch it around June. As it is right now they are about to be slammed by the onslaught that will be Warhammer... Sorry folks but Warhammer is looking that good, and it just seems like it will provided something I have yet to see in AOC and that is that it will be FUN!
I'm not saying AOC doesn't look good and all, but when I look at the videos that have been released it just does not look like it will be, well fun(there is that word agian).
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
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Who gives a monkeys to how polished it is compared to WAR? Not me!
Best thing that could of happened if they were confident the game was up to scratch was to put the release date back till the autumn. Not to mention its Conan's 75th Anniversay year, ride the crest of the wave I say as much as possible. Plus don't put it back any further, some Conan console game is coming out early '08 dont want any confusion there either! Polish, Polish as much as you can and deliver to us the game we already know will be King of all competition. WAR looks cool but come on, Conan is dark, gritty, atmospheric, great looking class structure, combat system and guild owned towns with unique siege battles. Warhammer wont slam nada, more like a little touch, AoC is good enough to stand the competition, but only time will tell, and i bet the faith with be justified.
I think warhammer will have the initial edge in the competition coming out of the gate. It caters to the masses more, and will be a decently well put together game. As far as fun goes, that's an iffy subject since people have very distinct tastes. Warhammer to me looks like it might be real flashy for a month maybe but get very repetitive after that, it actually looks really limiting to me right now. AoC looks like it will offer more for my tastes for a longer period of time. I wish it would come out sooner, but for their proposed time frame, I guess it's not much difference between a long time and a really long time.
Wish they'd put out some crusty browser game for us to play until then. Would keep me interested and in anticipation and it would be a nice way to keep us up to date on info aside from their forums and to form a solid community, with guilds and all that and would be a nice advertisement for them. Just something goofy and off the wall for us to mess around on and start making contacts with until the big show.
I'm a fan of Funcom and played all their games. However judging from their track record Conan will be late and the first release will be buggy. Just like the release of AO and each expansion after that including lost eden. Heck they even managed to have a show stopping bug in their adventure game the longest journey that effected many users.
I don't think the release of conan will be any different. They are a very small company. They just don't have the resources to ensure a smooth release.
That said the players that hang on after the bumpy start will probably be able to enjoy a great game for years to come.
Just like SWG basicly killed AO by decimating its subscription base, so will Warhammer do to AOC...I know I was there(probably unlike most of you).. I was there when I had to give up my PVP towers due to the fact that my normal enemys that I would fight day in and day out suddenly dissapearing.. Do to the fact that 7/8's of my guild was playing SWG..
Funcom were fools to try to release a expansion within the same period of SWG (which everyone thought would be a good game, to bad they didn't know). But now they are going to basicly do the same thing all over agian here in 07, the only difference here is that Mythic is not SOE. They have a track record for a very fine game under their belts not to mention a instant fanbase from that game. Put that together with the Huge IP that is Warhammer and there is no way in hell AOC has a good launch in the same Window as Warhammer, no freaking way.
Funcom has alot working agianst them people (if you actually played their games before you would know this). From possible one of the worst MMORPG launches in History, to alienating their player base with foriegn content (Shadowlands anyone?..). To a weak game engine that had Huge problems with lag during large PVP battles, to which their answer to this was to just upgrade that weak engine. Hell even in that beta leak video you could see some problems (um gliding) that you used to always see in AO, but I thought this was suppose to be a new and improved game engine...And thats just what we saw in that little 2 min video with very few people fighting, there is no telling whats going to happen when these huge battles kick off. My money is on the same thing that would happen in AO, people would lag all over the freaking place and then just leave the PVP area due to it.
AOC has it's work cut out for it, those of us that actually played thier other MMORPG know that. Last thing they needed was try to put themselfs up agianst a game like Warhammer and a company with the track record of Mythic. A smart person picks their battles, knows there limitations.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Originally posted by AmazingAvery Who gives a monkeys to how polished it is compared to WAR? Not me! Best thing that could of happened if they were confident the game was up to scratch was to put the release date back till the autumn. Not to mention its Conan's 75th Anniversay year, ride the crest of the wave I say as much as possible. Plus don't put it back any further, some Conan console game is coming out early '08 dont want any confusion there either! Polish, Polish as much as you can and deliver to us the game we already know will be King of all competition. WAR looks cool but come on, Conan is dark, gritty, atmospheric, great looking class structure, combat system and guild owned towns with unique siege battles. Warhammer wont slam nada, more like a little touch, AoC is good enough to stand the competition, but only time will tell, and i bet the faith with be justified.
I care how polished AOC is compared to WAR because one of your fanbois posters tried to say AOC is more polished than games released. I see one SHITTY video and not much else other than a whole lot OF TALK about how great your game is going to be but you guys have the nerve to keep pumpin it?
Please keep telling me how great your game is when at this point in time, for me its maybe ONE NOTCH ABOVE DARKFALL but yet you AOC fans keep defending it to the death. Wait I take that back, Ive seen more darkfall videos than I have AOC vids.
Daily I see new videos about my game of choice. I see actual employees explaining how there making music for the game, how there promoting the game, how they have come to an artistic decision and the list goes on and on and on.
WARHAMMER shows everything and Im hyped and Im looking forward to it. I see very little from AOC other than one terrible gameplay vid and some very polished screen shots.
Too bad talk dont make video games, cause as much as you guys YAP how great your game is, WoW would of taken a back seat to AOC by now.
That's a lot of defensive anger over a couple of games that aren't even out yet. What's worse is that we're all going to be paying for these games to play them, can't understand why people would be so defensive over something they'll be making zero $ from. I'm more looking forward to AoC because it will better suit my tastes as far as game mechanics and community. I've seen enough videos and info on this game to get me more interested. I've only seen one video of warhammer because, I've only bothered to look at one, but I know there is a lot more info about War out there. I can't be a fan boy yet because the game isn't out yet, I haven't played it. I post here about the game because this is the game I'm waiting for, sorry if my interests aren't in Warhammer, if they were, I'd probably be posting questions about that game on it's forums.
Who gives a monkeys to how polished it is compared to WAR? Not me!
Best thing that could of happened if they were confident the game was up to scratch was to put the release date back till the autumn. Not to mention its Conan's 75th Anniversay year, ride the crest of the wave I say as much as possible. Plus don't put it back any further, some Conan console game is coming out early '08 dont want any confusion there either! Polish, Polish as much as you can and deliver to us the game we already know will be King of all competition. WAR looks cool but come on, Conan is dark, gritty, atmospheric, great looking class structure, combat system and guild owned towns with unique siege battles. Warhammer wont slam nada, more like a little touch, AoC is good enough to stand the competition, but only time will tell, and i bet the faith with be justified.
I care how polished AOC is compared to WAR because one of your fanbois posters tried to say AOC is more polished than games released. I see one SHITTY video and not much else other than a whole lot OF TALK about how great your game is going to be but you guys have the nerve to keep pumpin it?
Please keep telling me how great your game is when at this point in time, for me its maybe ONE NOTCH ABOVE DARKFALL but yet you AOC fans keep defending it to the death. Wait I take that back, Ive seen more darkfall videos than I have AOC vids.
Daily I see new videos about my game of choice. I see actual employees explaining how there making music for the game, how there promoting the game, how they have come to an artistic decision and the list goes on and on and on.
WARHAMMER shows everything and Im hyped and Im looking forward to it.
I see very little from AOC other than one terrible gameplay vid and some very polished screen shots.
Too bad talk dont make video games, cause as much as you guys YAP how great your game is, WoW would of taken a back seat to AOC by now.
While a little heated, logangregor does have some valid points. We're just now learning about AoC's classes in detail, and they aren't showing a single grain of concept art of screenshots, where WAR shows concept art/screenshots/in-game videos of their classes when they release them.
I think it's just different development styles, but I think it's about time the developers are more open about what they're doing, how they're doing it, and how far along they are.
I know exactly how I'm going to look as 12 different classes in WAR. In AoC I haven't seen any class-specific screenshots, and only a handful of concept art pictures.
The comparison between the development styles is ultimately going to hurt Funcom, since people have already started saying "Why aren't we seeing PvP videos? EA Mythic has already shown at least 7 PvP videos and they've been in development of WAR a year less than AoC"
I still find it insanely hard to believe that AoC is in beta, and there hasn't been a single PvP video. Here's hoping that they'll stop showing freaking pythons, camels, hyenas, and other animals and start showing some PvP videos.
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I was wondering the same thing...
Everything I have found about the game says October 2007...
The pushback was for the sake of final tweaks and polishing the game further. It is as always possible that a further delay may occur, but I'd bet against it at this stage.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
Total time played: 9125 Days, 21 Hours, 29 Minutes, 27 Seconds
Time played this level: 39 Days, 1 Hour, 24 Minutes, 5 Seconds
I hope it won´t come to another 2 month delay.
But anyway I don´t belive in the Christmas Marketing Boost. Poeple who want to buy something do it no matter what time of the year it is. And the most money made with a mmorpg is the monthly fee anyway.
Now, however, they will pick-up a lot more people who will be disilliusioned and jumping ship on those titles at about that time, since that will be about the time the "new" has worn off (which has already happened for me with Vanguard {bug infested PoS}.
As of right now, they will be competing with Warhammer, and to be honest, its the only game this year that will be remotely competing for the same kind of crowd.
No man is an island, entire of itself; every man is a piece of the continent, a part of the main. any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind, and therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee.
Hemingway
It's going to be a tiresome wait though. There really isn't anything to play until then, in any genre for me at least.
Never give up and never surrender!
Basicly there are two explanations for the delay...
1) Watch what Warhammer is doing, shortly after they announced the release date would be pushed back, Funcom delayed AoC. As a bonus, we get an more polished game come release.
2) The delay gives AoC a one up on Warhammer; it allows Funcom to release the PC and 360 versions at the same time. A dual platform release is a diffirenciator for AoC in the MMO market place which companies making "me too" products love to have.
Those that think the 360 version will be a year or even a quarter behind the PC release since they announced the push back to Q3,are kidding themselves.
"I hate it when my schwartz gets twisted!"
Well since it has been stated in interviews AFTER the delay, that the 360 version would be released after the PC version there isn't much credit to you statement, now is there? Perhaps you should rethink who is kidding themselves.
Since we have seen almost no footage of the magic system, or little info of any kind on it, I'm guessing the delay was made because...dun dun dun...Funcom needed more time. gasp I know it's an odd concept, developers taking more time to deliver a smooth, well funtioning product instead of pushing it out the door, but Funcom did that once, with AO. This time around I see them taking as much time as they need to keep the promises they've made.
How would delaying the release till it has to compete with WAR a good marketing move? There are two MMOs coming out this year: AoC and WAR, thats it. Vanbug, LOTRO, and GnH are not even on the same level, and this game could have only done better if it had launched against that quality of competition. Instead it now has to go head-to-head with another high-quality, PvP centered game...
What you said...or maybe the fact the that they just re-made the entire character system, consolidating all of the character classes into a few???
NAH...couldn't be...
- How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
- I don't know, but some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?
- How can you talk if you haven't got a brain?
- I don't know, but some people without brains do an awful lot of talking, don't they?
Well it would of had to been something you heard because I have ONLY SEEN 1 VID rofl.
More polished than other games right now?... please.... its not more polished than WAR is right now.
More polished than other games right now?... please.... its not more polished than WAR is right now.
Nope, and if the developers were smart they would push back to sometime in 08 or launch it around June. As it is right now they are about to be slammed by the onslaught that will be Warhammer... Sorry folks but Warhammer is looking that good, and it just seems like it will provided something I have yet to see in AOC and that is that it will be FUN!
I'm not saying AOC doesn't look good and all, but when I look at the videos that have been released it just does not look like it will be, well fun(there is that word agian).
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Who gives a monkeys to how polished it is compared to WAR? Not me!
Best thing that could of happened if they were confident the game was up to scratch was to put the release date back till the autumn. Not to mention its Conan's 75th Anniversay year, ride the crest of the wave I say as much as possible. Plus don't put it back any further, some Conan console game is coming out early '08 dont want any confusion there either! Polish, Polish as much as you can and deliver to us the game we already know will be King of all competition. WAR looks cool but come on, Conan is dark, gritty, atmospheric, great looking class structure, combat system and guild owned towns with unique siege battles. Warhammer wont slam nada, more like a little touch, AoC is good enough to stand the competition, but only time will tell, and i bet the faith with be justified.
Wish they'd put out some crusty browser game for us to play until then. Would keep me interested and in anticipation and it would be a nice way to keep us up to date on info aside from their forums and to form a solid community, with guilds and all that and would be a nice advertisement for them. Just something goofy and off the wall for us to mess around on and start making contacts with until the big show.
Never give up and never surrender!
I don't think the release of conan will be any different. They are a very small company. They just don't have the resources to ensure a smooth release.
That said the players that hang on after the bumpy start will probably be able to enjoy a great game for years to come.
Just like SWG basicly killed AO by decimating its subscription base, so will Warhammer do to AOC...I know I was there(probably unlike most of you).. I was there when I had to give up my PVP towers due to the fact that my normal enemys that I would fight day in and day out suddenly dissapearing.. Do to the fact that 7/8's of my guild was playing SWG..
Funcom were fools to try to release a expansion within the same period of SWG (which everyone thought would be a good game, to bad they didn't know). But now they are going to basicly do the same thing all over agian here in 07, the only difference here is that Mythic is not SOE. They have a track record for a very fine game under their belts not to mention a instant fanbase from that game. Put that together with the Huge IP that is Warhammer and there is no way in hell AOC has a good launch in the same Window as Warhammer, no freaking way.
Funcom has alot working agianst them people (if you actually played their games before you would know this). From possible one of the worst MMORPG launches in History, to alienating their player base with foriegn content (Shadowlands anyone?..). To a weak game engine that had Huge problems with lag during large PVP battles, to which their answer to this was to just upgrade that weak engine. Hell even in that beta leak video you could see some problems (um gliding) that you used to always see in AO, but I thought this was suppose to be a new and improved game engine...And thats just what we saw in that little 2 min video with very few people fighting, there is no telling whats going to happen when these huge battles kick off. My money is on the same thing that would happen in AO, people would lag all over the freaking place and then just leave the PVP area due to it.
AOC has it's work cut out for it, those of us that actually played thier other MMORPG know that. Last thing they needed was try to put themselfs up agianst a game like Warhammer and a company with the track record of Mythic. A smart person picks their battles, knows there limitations.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
I care how polished AOC is compared to WAR because one of your fanbois posters tried to say AOC is more polished than games released. I see one SHITTY video and not much else other than a whole lot OF TALK about how great your game is going to be but you guys have the nerve to keep pumpin it?
Please keep telling me how great your game is when at this point in time, for me its maybe ONE NOTCH ABOVE DARKFALL but yet you AOC fans keep defending it to the death. Wait I take that back, Ive seen more darkfall videos than I have AOC vids.
Daily I see new videos about my game of choice. I see actual employees explaining how there making music for the game, how there promoting the game, how they have come to an artistic decision and the list goes on and on and on.
WARHAMMER shows everything and Im hyped and Im looking forward to it.
I see very little from AOC other than one terrible gameplay vid and some very polished screen shots.
Too bad talk dont make video games, cause as much as you guys YAP how great your game is, WoW would of taken a back seat to AOC by now.
Never give up and never surrender!
I care how polished AOC is compared to WAR because one of your fanbois posters tried to say AOC is more polished than games released. I see one SHITTY video and not much else other than a whole lot OF TALK about how great your game is going to be but you guys have the nerve to keep pumpin it?
Please keep telling me how great your game is when at this point in time, for me its maybe ONE NOTCH ABOVE DARKFALL but yet you AOC fans keep defending it to the death. Wait I take that back, Ive seen more darkfall videos than I have AOC vids.
Daily I see new videos about my game of choice. I see actual employees explaining how there making music for the game, how there promoting the game, how they have come to an artistic decision and the list goes on and on and on.
WARHAMMER shows everything and Im hyped and Im looking forward to it.
I see very little from AOC other than one terrible gameplay vid and some very polished screen shots.
Too bad talk dont make video games, cause as much as you guys YAP how great your game is, WoW would of taken a back seat to AOC by now.
While a little heated, logangregor does have some valid points. We're just now learning about AoC's classes in detail, and they aren't showing a single grain of concept art of screenshots, where WAR shows concept art/screenshots/in-game videos of their classes when they release them.
I think it's just different development styles, but I think it's about time the developers are more open about what they're doing, how they're doing it, and how far along they are.
I know exactly how I'm going to look as 12 different classes in WAR. In AoC I haven't seen any class-specific screenshots, and only a handful of concept art pictures.
The comparison between the development styles is ultimately going to hurt Funcom, since people have already started saying "Why aren't we seeing PvP videos? EA Mythic has already shown at least 7 PvP videos and they've been in development of WAR a year less than AoC"
I still find it insanely hard to believe that AoC is in beta, and there hasn't been a single PvP video. Here's hoping that they'll stop showing freaking pythons, camels, hyenas, and other animals and start showing some PvP videos.
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I live to fight, and fight to live.