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Darkfall the game for real mmo hardcore gamers.
Classicstar
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Forget the one thats is almost everyday diccussed here by all those silly fanbois.
Are you realy intrested in a game with a deep gameplay?..... hardcore pvp?.... no easy play?... you have to explore again?.....
And not a game thats easy and o so casual even a 10year old can play it forget that game its crap:)
Then wait for Darkfall it will set new standards for mmo,s again and dont follow that kids game so many times mentioned here on forums.
DFO is the future no comaparison to anygame on market right now!!!
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Look, when Darkfall becomes something more than vaporware, try again. For now, there is no game to follow in the first place.
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your not forced to follow it dont reply then if you think its vaporware simple.
Its for all who want something completely different and more then simple game and most of todays mmorpgs are all about make it as easy and kids friendly as we can so many will play it so more cash hehe.
You follow and wait for DARKFALL if you want a real chellenge:)
Hope to build full AMD system RYZEN/VEGA/AM4!!!
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MEMORY:Corsair PLAT.DDR3 1866MHZ 16GB
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you prolly wanne read zillions of wow topics right:P
Sorry but better to have zillions of topics about darkfall then that kids game.
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Your smoking crack.
RL PVP is where its at there is better loot in it .
If you can RL PvP your a carebear
When DF comes out , IF it ever comes out i bet it will be as good ad DnL.
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The problem is so many people keep touting "the next best thing" when there is nothing substantial to base your judgment on.
Dark and Light, Vanguard, Darkfall?
You just don't know.
Developers can say anything they want. But in the end, you have to have played the game.
Otherwise what happens is that players start spouting the same garbage about how developers have let them down and there are no good companies anymore, etc.
So my thought is wait and see.
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Well I'd guess it's a double-edged sword?
The online environment is not always a pleasant experience for a young child,especially in the F2P category. (not all F2P's are bad!)Racism,swearing,etc etc. And these F2P MMO's are 'easily accessible'. Hell,I'd bet Archlord has its share of bad language and things young children shouldn't hear....and not all this is coming from young children,which IS the shocking thing.
On the other hand,accessibility is not a NEGATIVE thing. I was certainly drawn to try WOW on the basis alone that there would be gamecards in my local shops,not because of it's grand history. (I hate RTS,and only played D1 briefly,so Blizzard's history wasn't it) And being able to 'easily access' a game isn't a bad thing; I like easy controls,but then I also like the phrase "easy to learn, hard to master". I want my games to be easy to play,but within the game events I like to have complex challenges. Like diplomacy in Vanguard (there's this ONE NPC that is forcing me to have to design an entire card strategy!) or a tough boss in an instance.
Younger children 'accessing' MMO's will be somewhat 'immature' in the developmental stage of life. (starting puberty,etc...) They will probably flock to easy to play MMO's (F2P!) and will get caught in online slanging matches,etc etc. But then again I've seen children who can make a 28-year old look like a baby,on Gears of War,who remains calm at all times. They just need to be taught that THESE bad things (online racism,etc etc) are a bad thing,and all will be well.
Well,it's a complex argument perhaps best reserved for its own thread Gameloading.
Exactly. But it doesn't hurt to spread the word in moderation. Even now in Vanguard,I say to people; "I'm only playing this until Darkfall comes out." If they ask what is Darkfall,I tell them and they make their own minds up. (done this in previous games,too!)
Although come to think of it,no-one in Vanguard has yet asked what Darkfall is....but that will soon change.
This has to be most simplistic minded thing i have ever read. So you telling me that a 10 year old can play a game it must be crap? Let me tell you you actually learn faster when you are young, and to actually learn a game that is user friendly, does not make it crap. This means the game is designed to be simple to pick up and harder to master, please go learn something about game design/architecture, before spouting such nonsense.
In a way you have to agree. It's pretty "hardcore" to wait on vaporware. It's also true that there's no comparison between DFA and any game on the market right now, since you can actually play those games on the market now.
Everyone on these forums can make a webpage with an MMORPG that sounds like it will be the best thing since sliced bread. We all know the rhetoric:
Rich story line with deep gameplay!
Player decisions that impact the world!
Combat system that is fast paced and fun, unlike any other MMORPG to date!
Unique crafting system that is innovative and exciting!
It's all just blowing smoke up your butt till you play the game and find out it's a dull turd.
This has to be most simplistic minded thing i have ever read. So you telling me that a 10 year old can play a game it must be crap? Let me tell you you actually learn faster when you are young, and to actually learn a game that is user friendly, does not make it crap. This means the game is designed to be simple to pick up and harder to master, please go learn something about game design/architecture, before spouting such nonsense.
No im saying if an average 10 year old can pick up a game it needs to be a lot more "user friendly" (another word for simple) than a game made for a more mature audience, take a look at the swg crafting system for instance show me a 10 year old who could learn that well enough to be a top crafter.
Its nothing against 10 year olds or easy games but your game becomes more "user friendly" at the cost of system depth, you cant have both.
You have to adapt the challenges of your game to the players who play it and making a game that satisfies an older gamer in the form of challenges while still doing the same for a 10 year old... well i havent seen anyone pull that off yet and i doubt i will any time soon.
I can say from my own experience that mmorpg's that are playable by 10 year olds (WoW) is not challenging what so ever for me, or for any of the members of the guild ive been in through multiple games.
Its fully possible to have a user friendly game thats easy to learn the basics in but thats not the challenge developers face, the challenge is to challenge your players and in order to do that you need to aim for a particular customer group.
Darkfall isn't vaporware, the devs are just taking their time making a decent game that's not buggy and filled with content. WoW is the only game out that the devs actually spent the time to make a game almost completely lacking of bugs, but they forgot the part about content.
I think Darkfall will be released. I mean hell, look at PoTBS... I've been following that game for what? 4yrs now? And it's finally in beta (and I didn't get accepted bastards).
I have signed up a group I'm apart of for the Clan Beta, but we still have yet to hear any reply from them. Hopefully it will be sometime this year. If not, I hope they are making good use of their time.
Making an original MMO is a long and hard process. Which is why we keep seeing clones like we are. Many people just call these games clones, and don't really understand what that means. All the games currently out are using the same classes and same exact spells as the other games, just named differently. Balancing is a huge part of creating new systems. It's very hard to balance MMOs.
Think about trying to balance a broom on ground with the brush facing up in a thunderstorm with 50mph winds..... and you kinda get the idea of how hard it is to balance the hundreds or thousands of things you need to balance in an original MMO.
Hell, the only thing I give WoW credit for is being complete. And they still have major balancing issues all the time.
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What has struck me is that the darkfall devs truly "get it". Read thru their many quotes and articles and if you dont agree with their dead on philosophies, then I wouldnt really wanna play with you anyways. Just keep grinding and collecting so you can reach the pinnacle of your current game, and look, fight, and achieve the exact same as everyone else.
Anything I play is just filler till Darkfall.
You hit the nail on the head in this post.
But the waiting part, I kinda feel the same way. Except, not just "Darkfall" but any game that will incorporate a community and create a real virtual world like Darkfall is trying to do. That's why I play MMOs, I want to be put into another world. If I wanted to be the hero, then I'll just play a Single Player game.
I like EVE alot, but the best way I've ever heard anyone describe EVE is that it's "a Hobby more than a MMO". I don't role play, but it really doesn't have that RPG feeling as an Avatar game does.
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Basically, It's too bad if they could have delivered on what they say I would have found my "home" for years .. talk about the ultimate "sandbox" game. I had high hopes for it and have been waiting for 4 years or so myself. But i think most have to realize that the game is a hoax or as you said a myth.
Though I am always holding out hope that they will run out of money and sell the idea and work for a company that knows what they are doing ... maybe the makers of EVE or Mythic.
Basically, It's too bad if they could have delivered on what they say I would have found my "home" for years .. talk about the ultimate "sandbox" game. I had high hopes for it and have been waiting for 4 years or so myself. But i think most have to realize that the game is a hoax or as you said a myth.
Though I am always holding out hope that they will run out of money and sell the idea and work for a company that knows what they are doing ... maybe the makers of EVE or Mythic.
Darkfall is a myth huh? Funny,I'd have thought other companies would have given up on a project after 3 & 7 years respectively. Still seems to be a forum on the website,still updates coming through,still GOING. Not really much of a myth to me,although if it's a play on 'Greece' and 'myth'....still not funny parrottwit.
Hoax? Whoops,did the ToC/DnL thing completely f**k up your MMO perception? There's no bad history in the companies that are making Darkfall. Perhaps wait until after any such 'hoax' is revealed before making a f**kwit observation,parrottwit.
I don't want the makers of Darkfall to give their game to Mythic. CCP (the EVE company) I guess would be good,but they have another (rumoured) MMORPG based on some book or other in the works (apparently),atop managing EVE to some success.
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