I dunno if the people who currently play FPS's will be interested. I mean the hard core fps players. If their machine LAGS..at all..their 3000 dollar rig..and new hardware cant remove the lag entirely and give them 300+ frames per second...it would be impossible for them to enjoy it. Just the ones i know anyway.
One problem with making an MMO FPS is that you're competing with FPS's, and they are excellent.
I think instead of an 'FPS MMO', you have to make an 'MMO - with lots of MMO things - and FPS combat'.
Then the problem is you cannot smoke cigarettes while playing, which won't fly in Asia.
It's more than just not being able to smoke, can't really type that much either, nor read. I may be wrong, I may be right, I may be somewhere in between, but I think Social gammers may be negatively impacted by FPS combat.
Just something to think about.
--Edit- If I could type ether, all the pain would go away
Imagine a MMO server filled with only CS and BF2 players. Everyone would be on Teamspeak/whatever, and all the chat you would see would be "WTF H4X!" "PWND" and..well, alot of bitching.
Hmm, maybe such a MMO would be a good idea. Hopefully all those players we DON'T like to play with, the "WTF PWNage" players would go to that MMO instead, and us casual players, PvP players, RP'ers would be left without grief and harrasment and..uh..pwnage.
FPS combat is for the quick fix melt faces short term kinda game for me..Ive played almost everyone of them..But they never hold my attention for hours and hours..I think SWG had it right with the que combat the states,weapon stats(acc,Range AP ect) and what type of profession you were.It was kinda FPS feeling but wasnt it felt very engaging for me and fun believe it or not..It had the right mix of turned based without making me think it was..I kinda like the stats used based on my gear and accuracy rolls and defense rolls determing the outcome.All those elements rolled into a good smooth engine IMO..
FPS combat needs to be smooth and its too fast paced for MMO setting IMO..The two just dont mix well..SWG had something good going for it when it made it appear to be fast paced(old system)even tho it was turned based dice roll system..I guess i felt it was more thinking on my part and it had great animations..With FPS combat its who ever has the fastest CPU GFX card and mouse finger..Blah..With MMO settings its about player skill,Gear Template buffs and a tad of luck...I honestly dont like FPS combat in the NGE its too fast and its clunky..I think FPS combat makes it feel like im playing a game not part of one.
Also with FPS combat its a HeadShot insta kill most times this also doenst mesh well in the MMORPG setting.Unless the system allows for dice rolls Acc and such..Even then youd get Lag spikes causing you to be standing one second and 4 seconds later dead..The Que's in turned based still keep up even tho the lag is there..Based on the NGE i dont like The FPS mix doesnt work for me..
Just let me know what the game is called so I won't buy it.
Ha, ha! Exactly!
Anthony Castoro? Heatwave Interactive?
I will avoid all games coming out of Heatwave Interactive.
Castoro is the guy that brought Forcefields and Ninjas to Ultima Online and two of the most damaging expansions to the virtual world, Ultima Online: Renaissance and Ultima Online: Age of Shadows.
The original poster describes Castoro very well in his post.
Ultima Online was a world, Castoro's ideas and development degraded it into a mere video game, much like the situation with SWG.
"An FPS MMO company" is a description that you just made up, just now.
Anthony left SOE before SWG launched.
Oh.. so HE'S the one we can't blame then.
Shayde - SWG (dead) Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled - Some deluded SWG fanboi who pities me. I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too. 09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
Imagine a MMO server filled with only CS and BF2 players. Everyone would be on Teamspeak/whatever, and all the chat you would see would be "WTF H4X!" "PWND" and..well, alot of bitching. Hmm, maybe such a MMO would be a good idea. Hopefully all those players we DON'T like to play with, the "WTF PWNage" players would go to that MMO instead, and us casual players, PvP players, RP'ers would be left without grief and harrasment and..uh..pwnage.
I would like to point out that this is not the case for ever player of the FPS genre... Before I got into SWG, I must admit that I was an avid CS player. In fact, I still love FPS games, much for the same reason why I love PvP in MMO's. It's unfair, however, for you to label FPS players with this general stereotype. I'm not sure if you've noticed, but every game, including MMO's, has that sort of player, "SWG" (and I use the term loosely) now more than ever. Sure, there are a lot of those players in your average FPS game, but the remaining player base doesn't deserve that.
"President Smedley, if you seek fame, if you seek prosperity for the SOE and LA, if you seek subscriptions: Come here to the players! Mr. Smedly, listen to the players! Mr. Smedley, roll back these servers!" - Ronald Reagan
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I think instead of an 'FPS MMO', you have to make an 'MMO - with lots of MMO things - and FPS combat'.
Then the problem is you cannot smoke cigarettes while playing, which won't fly in Asia.
It's more than just not being able to smoke, can't really type that much either, nor read. I may be wrong, I may be right, I may be somewhere in between, but I think Social gammers may be negatively impacted by FPS combat.
Just something to think about.
--Edit- If I could type ether, all the pain would go away
Imagine a MMO server filled with only CS and BF2 players. Everyone would be on Teamspeak/whatever, and all the chat you would see would be "WTF H4X!" "PWND" and..well, alot of bitching.
Hmm, maybe such a MMO would be a good idea. Hopefully all those players we DON'T like to play with, the "WTF PWNage" players would go to that MMO instead, and us casual players, PvP players, RP'ers would be left without grief and harrasment and..uh..pwnage.
FPS combat is for the quick fix melt faces short term kinda game for me..Ive played almost everyone of them..But they never hold my attention for hours and hours..I think SWG had it right with the que combat the states,weapon stats(acc,Range AP ect) and what type of profession you were.It was kinda FPS feeling but wasnt it felt very engaging for me and fun believe it or not..It had the right mix of turned based without making me think it was..I kinda like the stats used based on my gear and accuracy rolls and defense rolls determing the outcome.All those elements rolled into a good smooth engine IMO..
FPS combat needs to be smooth and its too fast paced for MMO setting IMO..The two just dont mix well..SWG had something good going for it when it made it appear to be fast paced(old system)even tho it was turned based dice roll system..I guess i felt it was more thinking on my part and it had great animations..With FPS combat its who ever has the fastest CPU GFX card and mouse finger..Blah..With MMO settings its about player skill,Gear Template buffs and a tad of luck...I honestly dont like FPS combat in the NGE its too fast and its clunky..I think FPS combat makes it feel like im playing a game not part of one.
Also with FPS combat its a HeadShot insta kill most times this also doenst mesh well in the MMORPG setting.Unless the system allows for dice rolls Acc and such..Even then youd get Lag spikes causing you to be standing one second and 4 seconds later dead..The Que's in turned based still keep up even tho the lag is there..Based on the NGE i dont like The FPS mix doesnt work for me..
Ha, ha! Exactly!
Anthony Castoro? Heatwave Interactive?
I will avoid all games coming out of Heatwave Interactive.
Castoro is the guy that brought Forcefields and Ninjas to Ultima Online and two of the most damaging expansions to the virtual world, Ultima Online: Renaissance and Ultima Online: Age of Shadows.
The original poster describes Castoro very well in his post.
Ultima Online was a world, Castoro's ideas and development degraded it into a mere video game, much like the situation with SWG.
Shayde - SWG (dead)
Proud member of the Cabal.
It sounds great, so great in fact, I pitty those who canceled
I don't like it when you say things. - A Vanguard fan who does too.
09f911029d74e35bd84156c5635688c0
"President Smedley, if you seek fame, if you seek prosperity for the SOE and LA, if you seek subscriptions: Come here to the players! Mr. Smedly, listen to the players! Mr. Smedley, roll back these servers!" - Ronald Reagan
Star Wars NGE (New Guiled Economics)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-8687227922034118883
Sums up my feelings about SWG pretty well
Anthony Castoro
EP, Gods & Heroes: Rome Rising
http://www.godsandheroes.com
CEO, Heatwave Interactive
http://www.heatwave.com
Holy thread necro batman!