Thank you for all your answers. I went to Adellion.com and I signed in in the forums. I even started RP in two threads of the Interactive Roleplaying section. But do you know if it's going to be free or payed after the beta testing ends? I decided not to ask the community there I was a bit...shy . By the way I hope I'll be chosen for the beta
sadly the game is on it's death bed and will probaly never stand to show it's potentional.
WHat I'd pray to see is stil a game like horizions ((the real one david allen tried to make)) or Traisl of Ancesion finaly come out and show us what a RP oriented world can be.
You should check out my thread in the pub section and post. seems people aren't realy following me and deciding to flame me but oh well.
Personally, although I am still at a low level, Vanguard seems to have an excellent community of Rp'ers on the server Florendyl. The only weird thing I've seen yet is a lady selling tea in general chat. If you claim to not like tea she puts you on her ignore list. (very odd i know)
The best games I've come across for roleplaying are:
Nexus TK - Kingdom of the Winds
EVE Online
City of Heroes/City of Villains
Nexus TK is a very old game but it has a very strong community build up through player run content. The game mechanics are terribly outdated and the graphics look like something from a crappy doll-maker website, but that's to be expected from it's age. I used to play it but since they changed the graphical style I'm really turned off from it. Back in the late 90's when this game was in it's prime I really loved it's distinct atmosphere, which was based off of mythical Korea. Now it's not much, but the key behind it is player run content. I can't stress how important player run content is in a good Roleplaying game.
EVE Online is the best sci-fi RPG that I know of. The graphics are beautiful and you really get a feel for the immense size of the universe. This is a great place to roleplay if you're into science fiction. Most players of EVE are adults, which the majority of are males. EVE is a very complicated game, though. It's a learning experience every day no matter how long you play; but don't get me wrong, that's actually a good thing! I recommend grabbing one of the 14-day free trials if you can just for a change of pace at least. Because this game is so enormous, I haven't had a chance to experience any player run content.
City of Heroes has a great roleplaying server. (Virtue) I've never played a more inviting game. It's easy to pick up and fun to play. The game mechanics, in my opinion, are really great. The player run content in CoH is very good. If you can find a close-knit supergroup (guild) or coalition then you'll have no shortage of roleplayers to socialize or fight crime with. It's a great community and I recommend it personally.
At the moment what I'm really craving is a fantasy MMORPG with a lot of originality and extensive player run content. Unfortunately these kinds of games seem to be virtually non-existent. If you do find anything like this, please let me know!
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If you only want RP, you should play SWG The whole game was designed for inviduality and player interaction. You can have your own house and get what furniture you want. Character creation is advanced and you have hundreds of appearences to create. The whole game have a live story line and there six movies to find inspiration from...
I played it before the famous NGE, so im not proud to recommend the game to anyone... But if you want hardcore or casual RP, then SWG is your game. This is no opinion, its fact.
Could you point me to where I can find this elusive RP in SWG? Because I've tried and failed a few times. I never played Pre-NGE, but the game these days hardly caters to Role Playing.
I have come across many MMOs and the problem with close to all that I have found. None of them really have any role play involved. The only RPs I have been able to perform were in Muds. But all of the text in muds can get painful on the eyes. And the typing oh my god the typing. I find that the people that get these MMOs are not really in it for the Role play eperience but to power level there character and try to sell them on ebay or something for newbies that just started. I guess if I want role play and story I need to stick to Muds or table tops.
I reject your reality and substitute it with my own.
The search for the perfect rp mmorpg may be a rather long one given the realities of the market.
What Id recommend is to draw up a list of mmorpgs that you like for other features and then take a look at their forums etc and see if there is are rp guilds or community.
Never Winter Nights 2, its free to play , fantasy based and better than most mmorpg's. At least in my opinion.
QFT.
In NWN 1 and 2 you can find some of the best roleplaying communities. Downside is that they are not exactly "MMOs" Most of the active servers have about 20+ people on at peak hours, but on the super active servers with 60+ people on at peak hours... I've found that the RP is lacking.
I have yet to play online with NWN2 (the online didn't work for me, and then my internet crashed on the computer with NWN2 on it, and then then windows stopped working) but I'm sure it is as excellent as NWN1.
ive got NWN2 im finding it rather good i just get P****D of with online and it keeps saying could'nt load modukes grrrr if u play this fgame any1 add mpike1991 on x-fire or mpike1991@hotmail.co.uk on msn we get going
Well hopefully Adellion comes through, a game strictly for roleplaying where the dev's and GM's join in and progress the story would be what the roleplaying community really needs. We seem to have quite a few people here wanting the same thing, worst case scenario we all choose a game, a server, and make our own community. But if Adellion comes through and gives what it promises, then we should all sign up! get our community going.
The last roleplaying i did was on furcadia a looonnng time ago, in like 1996 or '97 or something, it was fun, entirely open free form roleplaying, but since then it seems to of died out entirely. Havent been able to roleplay since then except for interactive stories on yahoo boards and things such as that. so hopefully we can find something.
I'll most definatly be checking back to this forum regularily.
so far I'll be checking out Ryzom.. and then after some time I'll give you my opiinion on how the RP is in that game... going to try it for first time in a few minutes now ^^... btw the game requires a damn lot of space on the HD
I'm playing Ryzom right now and i'm deciding on which guild to join that has roleplay, some look promising but a LOT of them are semi-roleplay guilds which to be honest, usually have barely any roleplay in them. I also have to disagree on the point about EVE Online being good for roleplay, yeah, there is tons of lore and such but that's not what roleplay is, not only that, but there are guilds out there who call themselves roleplaying guilds but really all they do is define the kind of character they play and leave it at that, they do not want to interact ICily and time and time again I just decide I can't be bothered trying to persuade them to roleplay because they all seem more interested in mining and fleet battles than really having any sort of roleplay interaction, they don't even really bother communicating ICily when in a fleet since they all use the private channels instead of the local (which many designate as IC) roleplaying from what i've seen in EVE is mainly formed up of in character posts on the game forums or on their own corporation forums.
correct me if i'm wrong but from what i've experienced EVE has very little 'actual' roleplay, there may be a few IC channels around but apart from that even the one's who say they are roleplayers and are wanting to do it have very little interest, the same goes for World of Warcraft nowadays, there is very little support for actual roleplayers in any of the games that are out right now, I highly recommend waiting awhile as others have said, maybe waste your time on some singleplayer games until the newer MMORPG's come out, they seem to target different people more than trying to advertise themselves as games for 'everyone' in most cases this usually isn't true :P you just have to keep looking for yourself. If you want some online roleplay right away though, MUDS might interest you depending on whether you can stand reading lots of text or not, there is a good lord of the rings MUD out there that has strict roleplaying, though I don't know whether it's still running or not and there are others too, you just have to keep an eye out.
Adellion certainly looks to be the most promising pure roleplaying MMORPG of them all, just my opinion
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
I'm playing Ryzom right now and i'm deciding on which guild to join that has roleplay, some look promising but a LOT of them are semi-roleplay guilds which to be honest, usually have barely any roleplay in them. I also have to disagree on the point about EVE Online being good for roleplay, yeah, there is tons of lore and such but that's not what roleplay is, not only that, but there are guilds out there who call themselves roleplaying guilds but really all they do is define the kind of character they play and leave it at that, they do not want to interact ICily and time and time again I just decide I can't be bothered trying to persuade them to roleplay because they all seem more interested in mining and fleet battles than really having any sort of roleplay interaction, they don't even really bother communicating ICily when in a fleet since they all use the private channels instead of the local (which many designate as IC) roleplaying from what i've seen in EVE is mainly formed up of in character posts on the game forums or on their own corporation forums.
correct me if i'm wrong but from what i've experienced EVE has very little 'actual' roleplay, there may be a few IC channels around but apart from that even the one's who say they are roleplayers and are wanting to do it have very little interest, the same goes for World of Warcraft nowadays, there is very little support for actual roleplayers in any of the games that are out right now, I highly recommend waiting awhile as others have said, maybe waste your time on some singleplayer games until the newer MMORPG's come out, they seem to target different people more than trying to advertise themselves as games for 'everyone' in most cases this usually isn't true :P you just have to keep looking for yourself. If you want some online roleplay right away though, MUDS might interest you depending on whether you can stand reading lots of text or not, there is a good lord of the rings MUD out there that has strict roleplaying, though I don't know whether it's still running or not and there are others too, you just have to keep an eye out.
Adellion certainly looks to be the most promising pure roleplaying MMORPG of them all, just my opinion
what do you mean with "comunicating ICily"? i guess you mean "in character".
i dont know what you understand as roleplaying. for me, roleplaying is playing a role, and the more tools and options i have to play that role, the better i can roleplay. that is why open ended skill based games are the only games where i feel i can roleplay. and saddly, EVE is almost the only open ended skill based player driven game actually.
Yeah, I do mean In Character (IC = In Character) also to communicate In Character you would speak to players as if you were the actual character in the game and you give yourself a role within that world, that is roleplaying, the problem is developers have been changing what it means over the years and there have been (at least in my opinion) rather bad Interpretations of it. I personally think that what you are talking about is simply playing the game, it is not really roleplaying and if it is it is a small form of it, game mechanics and roleplaying tend to be almost entirely seperate from each other unless the game specifically supports it. For example a guild creation tool or a tool that allows you to put up a description of yourself or a biography.
Forgive me if I sound rude, but it's this kind of interpretation that turns roleplaying servers into a complete joke, constant arguments and flaming about what roleplay is and how it should be done or why the game has the genre roleplaying in it in the first place is why roleplaying servers are often the mess they are *coughs* Argent Dawn WoW *coughs* the reason it is such a mess is because there are no firm guidelines on what should be going on in the game or server, the developer has simply stuck the label on in order to attract more customers and I also feel that roleplaying these days is more associated with fantasy than being the term of actual In Character Roleplaying.
if you want to know what roleplaying is i'll give you an example, if World of Warcraft or any other games has roleplay around them then this would be what you would most likely come across or what would be widely accepted by most roleplayers as "In Character" in a World of Warcraft themed scene.
<player x> walks over to <player y> and nods politely
<player y> nods politely back at <player x>
<player x> "Light bless you <player y> how was your trip?"
<player y> smiles and tightens his gauntlets slightly
<player y> "Wasn't such a bad trip, few orcs here and there but I took care of them"
<player y> grins to himself a little
This is an example of In Character roleplaying now if you don't understand this, look again and again and if after that you don't understand, you simply don't understand what roleplaying really is. Oh and about the EVE thing, I have to disagree since Ryzom follows that same style, just in a different way.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
Yeah, I do mean In Character (IC = In Character) also to communicate In Character you would speak to players as if you were the actual character in the game and you give yourself a role within that world, that is roleplaying, the problem is developers have been changing what it means over the years and there have been (at least in my opinion) rather bad Interpretations of it. I personally think that what you are talking about is simply playing the game, it is not really roleplaying and if it is it is a small form of it, game mechanics and roleplaying tend to be almost entirely seperate from each other unless the game specifically supports it. For example a guild creation tool or a tool that allows you to put up a description of yourself or a biography.
Forgive me if I sound rude, but it's this kind of interpretation that turns roleplaying servers into a complete joke, constant arguments and flaming about what roleplay is and how it should be done or why the game has the genre roleplaying in it in the first place is why roleplaying servers are often the mess they are *coughs* Argent Dawn WoW *coughs* the reason it is such a mess is because there are no firm guidelines on what should be going on in the game or server, the developer has simply stuck the label on in order to attract more customers and I also feel that roleplaying these days is more associated with fantasy than being the term of actual In Character Roleplaying.
if you want to know what roleplaying is i'll give you an example, if World of Warcraft or any other games has roleplay around them then this would be what you would most likely come across or what would be widely accepted by most roleplayers as "In Character" in a World of Warcraft themed scene.
<player x> walks over to <player y> and nods politely
<player y> nods politely back at <player x>
<player x> "Light bless you <player y> how was your trip?"
<player y> smiles and tightens his gauntlets slightly
<player y> "Wasn't such a bad trip, few orcs here and there but I took care of them"
<player y> grins to himself a little
This is an example of In Character roleplaying now if you don't understand this, look again and again and if after that you don't understand, you simply don't understand what roleplaying really is. Oh and about the EVE thing, I have to disagree since Ryzom follows that same style, just in a different way.
i am sorry to say you are very shortsighted. that is not roleplaying. role playing is acting like your character would be. your example was a highly artificial and stupid one. roleplaying is MUCH MUCH more than saying "thee" and "thou" and nodding. roleplaying is stealing from other characters, if i am a thief. roleplaying is ransoming if i am a pirate. roleplaying is not rescuing the elf princess cause i am a dwarf and i dont like elfs, even if i loose 3 million xp. it doesnt matter how you talk. it matters what you do, and how many tools and options the game gives you.
if all the roleplaying you can do is nodding and speaking like a bad medieval actor, then your roleplaying experience is quite lacking. that is why WoW RP servers are a joke. is not because of players, it is because the game can not be roleplayed. you can only roleplay like a hero, but at the same time, nothing you do has any consecuence whatsoever on the world or the rest of the players. and that is crap.
and of course, if you come to EVE with your thees and thous and blessings, you are gonna get disappointed.
If you want to insult what I see as roleplaying just because you don't see it as roleplaying yourself then fine, i'll just walk away from this thread and laugh at how my point has just been proven. WoW RP is in the state it's in is because people like you constantly attack anyone who doesn't agree with you regardless of whether they are polite or aggressive, frankly, I've had enough of it in World of Warcraft thanks, so please refrain from doing it here.
I gave that conversation as a typical example of roleplaying, please don't make the mistake of trying to belittle me because I will just ignore you and say go back to WoW because this is the exact kind of behaviour i've had to cope with there and why I quit. There are different genres of roleplaying yes and I even tried to fit into the EVE one, but still hardly anyone was actually interested in doing any In Character style roleplaying, now if you can't understand this please just sod off and think about what you've said instead of outright insulting me. If you want to go into how shortsighted I am then i'll tell you how shortsighted you are by making assumptions based on a small example i've given to help just random posters understand what we are talking about since not many players nowadays actually understand what roleplaying is. I have had at least ten years roleplaying experience and I have roleplayed on several MUDS, MMORPG's and even done a little roleplaying on Neverwinter Nights, the people I have roleplayed didn't seem to mind my style so clearly your either just insulting me for the hell of it or you have such a different perception of what roleplaying is that you must attack anyone that has a slightly different view on it.
The many people I have roleplayed with I've noticed believe that roleplaying is a form of Interactive Storytelling i.e you are telling the story of your character and how he lives in the world, that is the kind of roleplaying I do, again, if you have a problem with this and want to throw insults like an idiot, just sod off. Saying "I'm sorry" right at the beginning of the sentence just doesn't justify that kind of pathetic insulting.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
hey dude, grow a pair. first you say you dont want to sound rude, but my way of roleplaying is a joke, and then you get disturbed cause i called you shortsighted. way to go man.
i dont care how many centuries of RP experience you got. all i know is that your example of ropleaying was, at its best, a poor one. if you dont see it, or cant accept it, its not my problem.
i am not saying that roleplaying doesnt involve storytelling or explaining how your character dwells and lives. what i am saying is that roleplaying is much more than that. that is the tip of the iceberg. you can nod and bless all you want, but if you are a thief, and do not steal, you are a very bad roleplayer. if you are a cleric, but go around killing things, then you are a bad cleric.
anyway, yeah, tell me to go back to WoW. i've seen more roleplaying playing worms online than on that pseudo-mmorpg.
well sorry If I came across that way but that's what I believe and what I have actually experienced, let's stop insulting each other at least.... Roleplaying is a very touchy subject for me and I don't like being belittled by people who think they know better regardless of what is said back at them, you want to carry on then fine, but yeah, i'll tell you to go back to WoW because that's the kind of behaviour i've constantly seen there even after I've left, let's just back off each other, I can't be arsed arguing with random people very much anymore, but if you want an example of the type of roleplaying I do then here it is. This is from a roleplaying forum which there is no way i'm mentioning on this sight because I don't want to attract a bunch of idiots to it.
"Lethn eyed the mercenaries dangerously as they began stepping back, often people like them did desperate things if they were frightened enough the woman Theya watched Lethn carefully as he merely stood there holding his bow a now calm look in his eyes though the mercenaries were all gripping their weapons nervously the woman who was apparently their leader began muttering to each other and Lethn raised an eyebrow, it would probably be safe now, but thankfully it seemed that they weren't stupid enough to attack him like this after he had just demonstrated that he was at least pretty capable of defending himself, Lethn frowned slightly as he looked at the dead mage, the man was now a bloody mess, his eyes wide and staring, the arrow was sticking through his head as he had aimed but it had been off target from where he had been meaning to hit, he looked at Ila for a moment who seemed to be looking up at the ceiling Lethn glanced up to where she was looking, he had never seen something like that before, but for some reason he did not feel the same awe that Ila was experiencing that made him wonder why as well, probably because of all the death he had seen, he glanced back and his eyes widened slightly in suprise as he saw the woman Theya kneeling before him in a manner he had not expected any mercenary to, the mercenaries argued amongst themselves quietly as she did some of them clearly looking rather confused at why the woman was doing this it seemed Lethn wasn't the only one.
"You.... You have killed our employer, he was the only one willing to hire us in the entire city, the rest of the merchants have their own security or mercenaries because they fear the thieves and bandits that lurk here some of them were even former mercenaries who actually had a single shred of honour before going that way! I.... I have no one else to turn to... I may be a mercenary but I would rather pledge my service to you than prey on innocent people!" Lethn looked unsurely at her the woman certainly looked like some sort of warrior with the garb that she was wearing, her hair was a dark black and she had blue eyes, the eyes, they almost seemed like his mothers' he closed his eyes remembering back to that time and sadness filled up inside him like he had never felt before but he forced himself into keeping it under control, though for the first time in his life, his eyes actually showed a shred of pity, though what suprised him more was the other mercenaries around the woman had fallen silent, two were woman like her and the other two were men who actually followed suit, kneeling down to him Lethn did not know how to react, he knew he would have to gain followers if he was to revive the Shadow Clan and defeat the Isiiga once and for all, but he never wanted it to be like this, this is what the Isiiga would do to people.
Lethn spoke though for the first time felt rather uncertain of himself, since he had never been in a situation before where he had not relied on anyone but himself was this what his mother had talked about?..... Portecting the desperate and innocent? "... I will only accept this pledge if you also willingly accept it..... That is all I ask of you" The mercenaries glanced at each other and then spoke in unison "Lethn Orlenath.... We pledge our service to you.... To you and the Shadow Clan" Lethn sighed and looked at them again "Stand up then... No one in the Shadow Clan should have to kneel to another...." They slowly stood up the woman Theya looking at him unsurely though some were a little unsure they clearly seemed happier "Does this mean you accept?" a woman in the group asked him and Lethn merely nodded, he wasn't much of a talker but it seemed this time he was forced to make an exception to that.
"If you wish to help me then we can start off by getting this corpse burned and the temple rebuilt, I know some people in the city who can probably help with that and as for funds, I will take care of that for you" They would all need a place to stay for the night, especially Ila and he doubted that she could survive on that small bag of coin for even a couple of nights, with the way merchants sometimes haggled for prices but at least if the temple was built it would mean they wouldn't have to worry about a place to sleep, though technically that would all depend on her since it seemed that she was to be the proper owner of the place though thankfully it seemed that she wasn't the greedy or generally 'evil' type, lost in his own thoughts he had barely realised that the mercenaries seemed to actually be smiling the woman nodded and then said "Right away!" they then moved to lift the corpse and prepare it for a crude form of cremation, Lethn turned to Ila, it seemed that things were finally beginning to work for him, but what about her? He had only known her for a day and yet she felt strangely familiar to him, like an old friend."
now that's the roleplaying I do.... let's stop the insulting now alrighty? If you have a problem with it just back off and start talking to other people.
Quoting people doesn't make you clever, in fact, it makes you all the more stupid for not bothering to read the quotes you post in the first place.
man, we are talking the same. do you know why that roleplaying is so rich and fullfiling? it's becuase it's written, and thus your only tools are the language and your imagination. you can do and say anything you want, cause you are working on the bases that whatever you say or do will come true (if it is within the rules).
but you can not do that on a game. you can not caress anybody. you can not murder anybody (i mean completely killing), you can not steal any player, you can not throw a glass of beer to anyone. you can not express your feelings with a glimpse, you cant slap someone on the face, you cant drink all the wine of the inn and have everybody mad at you, you cant even buy it all and the resell it, nor can you ride a horse unless you are a high level player. you cant use your sword to write your name on the wall, or use your helmet as an improvised hammer...
games are limited environments by default. thus, roleplaying IS limited by design. roleplaying can only happen as long as the game lets you do things. the more things the game allows you to do, the more you will be able to roleplay.
and there is where WoW really shines, on options, freedom and open-endness. you are free to do anything you wish. go anywhere you like, fight whoever you want. if you want, you can progress just by crafting or harvesting things, or by having a succesful shop.
that is why WoW is a much much better game to roleplay than, say, UO or EVE.
Yeah.... it's a shame the AD community is too half-witted and arrogant to realize this none of them just want to be a community they all want they're own little 'specialized' world where they can rule, it's why night elf guilds are located far away from human or light based guilds and paladins always seem to be completely evil or general arses......
Me agree! *clings*..... I miss SWG and I want my care free roleplay back! *sighs and bonks self for being so defensive*
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sadly the game is on it's death bed and will probaly never stand to show it's potentional.
WHat I'd pray to see is stil a game like horizions ((the real one david allen tried to make)) or Traisl of Ancesion finaly come out and show us what a RP oriented world can be.
You should check out my thread in the pub section and post. seems people aren't realy following me and deciding to flame me but oh well.
Nexus TK - Kingdom of the Winds
EVE Online
City of Heroes/City of Villains
Nexus TK is a very old game but it has a very strong community build up through player run content. The game mechanics are terribly outdated and the graphics look like something from a crappy doll-maker website, but that's to be expected from it's age. I used to play it but since they changed the graphical style I'm really turned off from it. Back in the late 90's when this game was in it's prime I really loved it's distinct atmosphere, which was based off of mythical Korea. Now it's not much, but the key behind it is player run content. I can't stress how important player run content is in a good Roleplaying game.
EVE Online is the best sci-fi RPG that I know of. The graphics are beautiful and you really get a feel for the immense size of the universe. This is a great place to roleplay if you're into science fiction. Most players of EVE are adults, which the majority of are males. EVE is a very complicated game, though. It's a learning experience every day no matter how long you play; but don't get me wrong, that's actually a good thing! I recommend grabbing one of the 14-day free trials if you can just for a change of pace at least. Because this game is so enormous, I haven't had a chance to experience any player run content.
City of Heroes has a great roleplaying server. (Virtue) I've never played a more inviting game. It's easy to pick up and fun to play. The game mechanics, in my opinion, are really great. The player run content in CoH is very good. If you can find a close-knit supergroup (guild) or coalition then you'll have no shortage of roleplayers to socialize or fight crime with. It's a great community and I recommend it personally.
At the moment what I'm really craving is a fantasy MMORPG with a lot of originality and extensive player run content. Unfortunately these kinds of games seem to be virtually non-existent. If you do find anything like this, please let me know!
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If you only want RP, you should play SWG
The whole game was designed for inviduality and player interaction. You can have your own house and get what furniture you want.
Character creation is advanced and you have hundreds of appearences to create.
The whole game have a live story line and there six movies to find inspiration from...
I played it before the famous NGE, so im not proud to recommend the game to anyone...
But if you want hardcore or casual RP, then SWG is your game.
This is no opinion, its fact.
Just in case any of you were thinking of buying Vanguard Saga of Heroes, I strongly suggest that you research the Vanguard forums first.
If any of you are already playing Vaguard and are happy, then you have had more luck than me.
I have just cancelled after three weeks of annoyance and frustration with the game mechanics and also the absence of effective support.
Meanwhile if anyone finds a newish game where one can play solo, I would be obliged for the information.
http://www.adellion.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2787
I reject your reality and substitute it with my own.
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The search for the perfect rp mmorpg may be a rather long one given the realities of the market.
What Id recommend is to draw up a list of mmorpgs that you like for other features and then take a look at their forums etc and see if there is are rp guilds or community.
Good luck.
In NWN 1 and 2 you can find some of the best roleplaying communities. Downside is that they are not exactly "MMOs" Most of the active servers have about 20+ people on at peak hours, but on the super active servers with 60+ people on at peak hours... I've found that the RP is lacking.
I have yet to play online with NWN2 (the online didn't work for me, and then my internet crashed on the computer with NWN2 on it, and then then windows stopped working) but I'm sure it is as excellent as NWN1.
Well hopefully Adellion comes through, a game strictly for roleplaying where the dev's and GM's join in and progress the story would be what the roleplaying community really needs. We seem to have quite a few people here wanting the same thing, worst case scenario we all choose a game, a server, and make our own community. But if Adellion comes through and gives what it promises, then we should all sign up! get our community going.
The last roleplaying i did was on furcadia a looonnng time ago, in like 1996 or '97 or something, it was fun, entirely open free form roleplaying, but since then it seems to of died out entirely. Havent been able to roleplay since then except for interactive stories on yahoo boards and things such as that. so hopefully we can find something.
I'll most definatly be checking back to this forum regularily.
correct me if i'm wrong but from what i've experienced EVE has very little 'actual' roleplay, there may be a few IC channels around but apart from that even the one's who say they are roleplayers and are wanting to do it have very little interest, the same goes for World of Warcraft nowadays, there is very little support for actual roleplayers in any of the games that are out right now, I highly recommend waiting awhile as others have said, maybe waste your time on some singleplayer games until the newer MMORPG's come out, they seem to target different people more than trying to advertise themselves as games for 'everyone' in most cases this usually isn't true :P you just have to keep looking for yourself. If you want some online roleplay right away though, MUDS might interest you depending on whether you can stand reading lots of text or not, there is a good lord of the rings MUD out there that has strict roleplaying, though I don't know whether it's still running or not and there are others too, you just have to keep an eye out.
Adellion certainly looks to be the most promising pure roleplaying MMORPG of them all, just my opinion
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what do you mean with "comunicating ICily"? i guess you mean "in character".
i dont know what you understand as roleplaying. for me, roleplaying is playing a role, and the more tools and options i have to play that role, the better i can roleplay. that is why open ended skill based games are the only games where i feel i can roleplay. and saddly, EVE is almost the only open ended skill based player driven game actually.
Forgive me if I sound rude, but it's this kind of interpretation that turns roleplaying servers into a complete joke, constant arguments and flaming about what roleplay is and how it should be done or why the game has the genre roleplaying in it in the first place is why roleplaying servers are often the mess they are *coughs* Argent Dawn WoW *coughs* the reason it is such a mess is because there are no firm guidelines on what should be going on in the game or server, the developer has simply stuck the label on in order to attract more customers and I also feel that roleplaying these days is more associated with fantasy than being the term of actual In Character Roleplaying.
if you want to know what roleplaying is i'll give you an example, if World of Warcraft or any other games has roleplay around them then this would be what you would most likely come across or what would be widely accepted by most roleplayers as "In Character" in a World of Warcraft themed scene.
<player x> walks over to <player y> and nods politely
<player y> nods politely back at <player x>
<player x> "Light bless you <player y> how was your trip?"
<player y> smiles and tightens his gauntlets slightly
<player y> "Wasn't such a bad trip, few orcs here and there but I took care of them"
<player y> grins to himself a little
This is an example of In Character roleplaying now if you don't understand this, look again and again and if after that you don't understand, you simply don't understand what roleplaying really is. Oh and about the EVE thing, I have to disagree since Ryzom follows that same style, just in a different way.
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i am sorry to say you are very shortsighted. that is not roleplaying. role playing is acting like your character would be. your example was a highly artificial and stupid one. roleplaying is MUCH MUCH more than saying "thee" and "thou" and nodding. roleplaying is stealing from other characters, if i am a thief. roleplaying is ransoming if i am a pirate. roleplaying is not rescuing the elf princess cause i am a dwarf and i dont like elfs, even if i loose 3 million xp. it doesnt matter how you talk. it matters what you do, and how many tools and options the game gives you.
if all the roleplaying you can do is nodding and speaking like a bad medieval actor, then your roleplaying experience is quite lacking. that is why WoW RP servers are a joke. is not because of players, it is because the game can not be roleplayed. you can only roleplay like a hero, but at the same time, nothing you do has any consecuence whatsoever on the world or the rest of the players. and that is crap.
and of course, if you come to EVE with your thees and thous and blessings, you are gonna get disappointed.
I gave that conversation as a typical example of roleplaying, please don't make the mistake of trying to belittle me because I will just ignore you and say go back to WoW because this is the exact kind of behaviour i've had to cope with there and why I quit. There are different genres of roleplaying yes and I even tried to fit into the EVE one, but still hardly anyone was actually interested in doing any In Character style roleplaying, now if you can't understand this please just sod off and think about what you've said instead of outright insulting me. If you want to go into how shortsighted I am then i'll tell you how shortsighted you are by making assumptions based on a small example i've given to help just random posters understand what we are talking about since not many players nowadays actually understand what roleplaying is. I have had at least ten years roleplaying experience and I have roleplayed on several MUDS, MMORPG's and even done a little roleplaying on Neverwinter Nights, the people I have roleplayed didn't seem to mind my style so clearly your either just insulting me for the hell of it or you have such a different perception of what roleplaying is that you must attack anyone that has a slightly different view on it.
The many people I have roleplayed with I've noticed believe that roleplaying is a form of Interactive Storytelling i.e you are telling the story of your character and how he lives in the world, that is the kind of roleplaying I do, again, if you have a problem with this and want to throw insults like an idiot, just sod off. Saying "I'm sorry" right at the beginning of the sentence just doesn't justify that kind of pathetic insulting.
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hey dude, grow a pair. first you say you dont want to sound rude, but my way of roleplaying is a joke, and then you get disturbed cause i called you shortsighted. way to go man.
i dont care how many centuries of RP experience you got. all i know is that your example of ropleaying was, at its best, a poor one. if you dont see it, or cant accept it, its not my problem.
i am not saying that roleplaying doesnt involve storytelling or explaining how your character dwells and lives. what i am saying is that roleplaying is much more than that. that is the tip of the iceberg. you can nod and bless all you want, but if you are a thief, and do not steal, you are a very bad roleplayer. if you are a cleric, but go around killing things, then you are a bad cleric.
anyway, yeah, tell me to go back to WoW. i've seen more roleplaying playing worms online than on that pseudo-mmorpg.
"Lethn eyed the mercenaries dangerously as they began stepping back, often people like them did desperate things if they were frightened enough the woman Theya watched Lethn carefully as he merely stood there holding his bow a now calm look in his eyes though the mercenaries were all gripping their weapons nervously the woman who was apparently their leader began muttering to each other and Lethn raised an eyebrow, it would probably be safe now, but thankfully it seemed that they weren't stupid enough to attack him like this after he had just demonstrated that he was at least pretty capable of defending himself, Lethn frowned slightly as he looked at the dead mage, the man was now a bloody mess, his eyes wide and staring, the arrow was sticking through his head as he had aimed but it had been off target from where he had been meaning to hit, he looked at Ila for a moment who seemed to be looking up at the ceiling Lethn glanced up to where she was looking, he had never seen something like that before, but for some reason he did not feel the same awe that Ila was experiencing that made him wonder why as well, probably because of all the death he had seen, he glanced back and his eyes widened slightly in suprise as he saw the woman Theya kneeling before him in a manner he had not expected any mercenary to, the mercenaries argued amongst themselves quietly as she did some of them clearly looking rather confused at why the woman was doing this it seemed Lethn wasn't the only one.
"You.... You have killed our employer, he was the only one willing to hire us in the entire city, the rest of the merchants have their own security or mercenaries because they fear the thieves and bandits that lurk here some of them were even former mercenaries who actually had a single shred of honour before going that way! I.... I have no one else to turn to... I may be a mercenary but I would rather pledge my service to you than prey on innocent people!" Lethn looked unsurely at her the woman certainly looked like some sort of warrior with the garb that she was wearing, her hair was a dark black and she had blue eyes, the eyes, they almost seemed like his mothers' he closed his eyes remembering back to that time and sadness filled up inside him like he had never felt before but he forced himself into keeping it under control, though for the first time in his life, his eyes actually showed a shred of pity, though what suprised him more was the other mercenaries around the woman had fallen silent, two were woman like her and the other two were men who actually followed suit, kneeling down to him Lethn did not know how to react, he knew he would have to gain followers if he was to revive the Shadow Clan and defeat the Isiiga once and for all, but he never wanted it to be like this, this is what the Isiiga would do to people.
Lethn spoke though for the first time felt rather uncertain of himself, since he had never been in a situation before where he had not relied on anyone but himself was this what his mother had talked about?..... Portecting the desperate and innocent? "... I will only accept this pledge if you also willingly accept it..... That is all I ask of you" The mercenaries glanced at each other and then spoke in unison "Lethn Orlenath.... We pledge our service to you.... To you and the Shadow Clan" Lethn sighed and looked at them again "Stand up then... No one in the Shadow Clan should have to kneel to another...." They slowly stood up the woman Theya looking at him unsurely though some were a little unsure they clearly seemed happier "Does this mean you accept?" a woman in the group asked him and Lethn merely nodded, he wasn't much of a talker but it seemed this time he was forced to make an exception to that.
"If you wish to help me then we can start off by getting this corpse burned and the temple rebuilt, I know some people in the city who can probably help with that and as for funds, I will take care of that for you" They would all need a place to stay for the night, especially Ila and he doubted that she could survive on that small bag of coin for even a couple of nights, with the way merchants sometimes haggled for prices but at least if the temple was built it would mean they wouldn't have to worry about a place to sleep, though technically that would all depend on her since it seemed that she was to be the proper owner of the place though thankfully it seemed that she wasn't the greedy or generally 'evil' type, lost in his own thoughts he had barely realised that the mercenaries seemed to actually be smiling the woman nodded and then said "Right away!" they then moved to lift the corpse and prepare it for a crude form of cremation, Lethn turned to Ila, it seemed that things were finally beginning to work for him, but what about her? He had only known her for a day and yet she felt strangely familiar to him, like an old friend."
now that's the roleplaying I do.... let's stop the insulting now alrighty? If you have a problem with it just back off and start talking to other people.
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man, we are talking the same. do you know why that roleplaying is so rich and fullfiling? it's becuase it's written, and thus your only tools are the language and your imagination. you can do and say anything you want, cause you are working on the bases that whatever you say or do will come true (if it is within the rules).
but you can not do that on a game. you can not caress anybody. you can not murder anybody (i mean completely killing), you can not steal any player, you can not throw a glass of beer to anyone. you can not express your feelings with a glimpse, you cant slap someone on the face, you cant drink all the wine of the inn and have everybody mad at you, you cant even buy it all and the resell it, nor can you ride a horse unless you are a high level player. you cant use your sword to write your name on the wall, or use your helmet as an improvised hammer...
games are limited environments by default. thus, roleplaying IS limited by design. roleplaying can only happen as long as the game lets you do things. the more things the game allows you to do, the more you will be able to roleplay.
and there is where WoW really shines, on options, freedom and open-endness. you are free to do anything you wish. go anywhere you like, fight whoever you want. if you want, you can progress just by crafting or harvesting things, or by having a succesful shop.
that is why WoW is a much much better game to roleplay than, say, UO or EVE.
Me agree! *clings*..... I miss SWG and I want my care free roleplay back!
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