I'm just gonna go ahead and says it; Since you guys are here, maybe you can explain why you guys can't give us a seperate classic server. With a sandbox system, content wasn't too big of a deal.
This is all too little too late.
This has really been addressed a number of times...But the short answer is that we cannot support two code bases. We provide a game and we are proud of it. There will be no classic servers. Question answered...Please move on folks.
Removing content then adding it back into a game isnt new content Just watch guys, the new creature handling stuff probably wont even be as good as the old system. How could it be as good without bio engineer and all? Might be more balanced though Seriously, as opposed to removing a whole system and then recreating it, was that really easier than just balancing the previous system?
Originally posted by Zorvan
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Hisagawa wrote:
This isn't working guys...
I'm just gonna go ahead and says it; Since you guys are here, maybe you can explain why you guys can't give us a seperate classic server. With a sandbox system, content wasn't too big of a deal.
This is all too little too late.
This has really been addressed a number of times...But the short answer is that we cannot support two code bases. We provide a game and we are proud of it. There will be no classic servers. Question answered...Please move on folks.
DM
If they cant support two code bases then why'd they make two?
Removing content then adding it back into a game isnt new content Just watch guys, the new creature handling stuff probably wont even be as good as the old system. How could it be as good without bio engineer and all? Might be more balanced though Seriously, as opposed to removing a whole system and then recreating it, was that really easier than just balancing the previous system?
Originally posted by Zorvan
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Joined: Feb 13, 2007
Messages: 27
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Hisagawa wrote:
This isn't working guys...
I'm just gonna go ahead and says it; Since you guys are here, maybe you can explain why you guys can't give us a seperate classic server. With a sandbox system, content wasn't too big of a deal.
This is all too little too late.
This has really been addressed a number of times...But the short answer is that we cannot support two code bases. We provide a game and we are proud of it. There will be no classic servers. Question answered...Please move on folks.
DM
If they cant support two code bases then why'd they make two?
They didn't. They replaced the old one with a new one with the other. Therefore, there is only one codebase, and that is what they are supporting.
I'm just gonna go ahead and says it; Since you guys are here, maybe you can explain why you guys can't give us a seperate classic server. With a sandbox system, content wasn't too big of a deal.
This is all too little too late.
This has really been addressed a number of times...But the short answer is that we cannot support two code bases. We provide a game and we are proud of it. There will be no classic servers. Question answered...Please move on folks.
DM
Enjoy!
Do you honestly believe a developer would have any idea what is happening in the board room at SOE?
At this point I couldn't care less about pre-CU servers, however I wouldn't take this as the word of God. This is just another lackey at SOE who is saying what he is told to say. It's management that makes these kinds of decisions, and they've been known to change their minds from time to time. Lastly, managers change. Even Smed (with any hope) will move on one day. Who's to know what the next CEO will do.
We know you have been waiting and wondering about our plans for Star Wars Galaxies in 2007, and we are excited to be able to share some initial details with you today. First off, we’d like to thank all of you for your enthusiasm for the game and your excitement about all the new features we’ve been able to implement recently. We also appreciate the constructive feedback you’ve given us over the past year, and we encourage you to continue to share your thoughts and feelings about the features we’ll be adding in 2007.
LucasArts and Sony Online Entertainment have been working closely over the past few months to analyze what went right, and wrong, in 2006 and where we wanted to take the game in 2007. Like last year, we will continue to release content and features via our Chapter Adventures every eight weeks or so. As always, they will be delivered to you as part of your subscription to the game. These Chapters have allowed us to introduce new content on a consistent basis, while still giving us the flexibility to implement some of the feedback you gave us in the community summits and on the forums. Speaking of the community summits, we’re pleased to say that we’ll be starting them up again this year, albeit in a slightly different form that will accommodate more participants. In addition, we will continue to be active on the forums, responding to your questions and providing important information about the game.
Today we are publishing our plans for Chapter 6, which centers on the new Beast Master expertise tree that will be available to all players. We are excited about this feature, as it addresses a major community request while also delivering a more balanced gameplay experience and opening up the very fun and rewarding activity of crafting and raising pets to all professions. We invite you to read the Chapter 6 outline and give us your feedback and comments as we finalize the specifications.
In the weeks ahead we will be publishing more information about the plans we have for upcoming Chapters and our other initiatives. We have strived to focus our long term planning on a few key systems and content additions which will form the core of our upcoming Chapters, while leaving plenty of room for the community to help drive what comes next. We know that some of the things we already have planned will be very exciting for our players, but at the same time we want to be nimble in reacting to community input as it comes in. Every new Chapter we released in 2006 has inspired even more creative ideas from our players and we have no doubt that this will continue in 2007 and beyond.
We also would like to take this opportunity to mention some recent changes in our development team. As you know, SWG has been live for almost four years now, with many of our team members working on the game since the start of development more than seven years ago. Two developers that have been on the game since the beginning, Grant McDaniel, a producer at Sony Online, and Julio Torres, a producer at LucasArts, have moved on to other projects. Because of their stellar work on SWG, both guys have been given amazing opportunities within our respective companies. Grant has transitioned over to SOE’s massively multiplayer game based in the DC comic franchise. Julio is now a producer on Star Wars: The Force Unleashed for LucasArts. These transitions have been complete for several weeks now, with seasoned, enthusiastic developers taking over the positions, and we wanted to officially share that news with you today. We view these changes as very exciting, both for Grant and Julio, and also for the SWG team, as we’re able to bring in fresh perspectives on the game’s development.
For the rest of the day, we will be stationed on the official forums to address any questions you might have. We’ll do our best to answer specifics, but please understand that many of the details of the new content and features are still being ironed out and will be communicated in future updates. However, we’ll be glad to discuss the motivation behind our thinking, along with our high-level goals for the year.
Sincerely,
The Star Wars Galaxies Development Team Production Leads:
Brian Lowe, Senior Producer at LucasArts
Jake Neri, Producer at LucasArts
Lorin Jameson, Producer at SOE
This is funny as Hell... Well Grant is gone too...lol he got off that boat.. Julio... Well, Star Wars Unleased is fucked now. No person such as him should be on that project.. all hopes are lost now for sure on that one. I was looking forward to that until Mr Iconic was found to be on that.. SO Rouge 5 is out... he was smart.. DC project...K..lol Now there is a new guy as the producer.. not to mention I liked the comment of "What went wrong and what went right"... that is just so funny to see in a letter like that. No expansion.. they need money for that.. summits? Again??? LOL THEY DID NOT LISTEN TO US THE FIRST TIME AROUND! All in all nothing suprising and nothing good. I do like how they spun people leaving the team... that was the best part. You know seeing Julio get moved is unreal, but overdue they should have fired him... must be a contract no clue.. Beastmaster... Yeah, I played that once WHEN IT WAS CALLED CREATURE HANDLER THAT THEY TOOK OUT !!! I love letters like this.. no real plan all fluff and utter crap, other then saying that people that made SWG fail are gone...that was the only good news. (This is just like before except better...) they can't even add a expansion and they know it lol..
You strike me as the type of person who will whine about anything. If they had included an expansion? You would have cried your ass off about how they SHOULD be fixing the game in it's current state, and not concentrating on other things. They don't include an expansion? Whine your ass off again about how they "need" an expansion? CH is enough to bring more back. I'd rather they focus in certain issues and or ideas and release them every chapter, than have them try to pack up all the ideas, not take the time to fix the bugs in the expansion and the game because they are rushing to release, then release it and have me pay 30 bucks for something that still has bugs in it. Hmmm, pay no extra and have finer-tuned publishes? Or....pay 30 dollars and have all the content at once, but major bugs. I'll take the first one please.
Um no it will suck because it wont be as good nore as polished as the old CH was..It may bring a few back to the game but i doubt it will bring massive amounts.Cause nothing since the CUNGE has been as good as the systems before it..Even tho CU was crap to me the NGE is the Turd..And as long as its all WoWIsh and clumsy they still arent addressing the original complaints with SWG. Bugs and content top 2..
Now 2 years later you get neither of those 2 issues resolved but get a Rehashed CH Talent tree added..Good lord that sounds so so good..It wont be the same no matter what they add back unless the Core game is fixed first.Meaning all the bugs the horrid UI, Levels,Lack of professions and skills, Benny hill combat engine, Complexity, Sandbox gameplay..Now thats fixing the game not adding a rehashed subpar talent back that wont be as good as it once was..I think pre april 05 content to the game wouldve helped more than 2 revamps no one liked but a small group..This isnt going to help since no expansion means 0 money so the game is stuck in its curent crapfest..Enjoy the beast mastery talents im sure it will be so fun again..
And since the all the old Devs are gone means success dang i want a job!!! I know what will fix the game its just not what any SOE dev wants to hear..You have to fix the Core problems before you can move forward.FOr SWG to move forward would require another total revamp not bastardizing old professions and calling it new..They just dont get it the Game engine wasnt the problem its these stupid bugs and unpolished crap they keep spoon feeding everyone..So enjoy the NGE its here to stay, man it will be lonely for a long time if it continues in the direction its headed..They say moving forward i say 2 steps back and back and back and back..And time tells all tales if the game is saved or a turd getting ready to flush..Its gonna be a funny year for SWG...
1) Just because you won't play it doesn't mean others won't.
2) You have no idea what SWG will be doing this year, no one does. So quit trying to make assumptions about how SWG is going to suck this year too.
3) If you got hired as an SWG dev you wouldn't be making the decisions, management would. You would just be working on the system.
4) Would you rather them just keep any form of CH out of the NGE, or bring it back and make players happy. I mean seriously, people are always whining that the devs never listen to what the players want. Well, a few months ago there were a few RFC threads. One mentioning a "Beast Master" concept, one that I recall everyone on this forum calling it a "carrot on a stick" type thing and that the devs will never go through with it. Well that thread grew with positive responses and feedback, and now here we are with Beast Master coming next chapter. They listened to the players, and now the players are happy.
5) Somehow if you did happen to get a job at SWG, I am pretty sure you would spend your time trying to kill the game rather than fix it. You show so much hate towards the game in general that I am having a hard time realizing that you would actually want to help it.
That letter and the new introduction to a "Beastmaster" Prof tells me they are saying. "Damn I guess all those vets were right." Since they cluster-f**ked everything and no way of going back because of development costs, I figure this year we will be seeing a lot and lot of old PRE-CU elements come back in the game, they will bring the profs back little by little and the talk of the new combat revamp again..makes me wonder if they will be hitting the direction of the old combat system, but polishing it up like it should have been done the first time.
The NGE may be here to stay, but if they keep heading the direction they are going we may be seeing more PRE-CU than NGE and that'll make a hell of a happy crowd.
[[ DEAD ]] - Funny - I deleted my account on the site using the cancel account button. Forum user is separate and still exists with no way of deleting it. Delete it admins. Do it, this ends now.
Yes, based on track record and history I can safely say like I did at the start of the NGE... THAT it would suck and lose people.
Waahllaaa..
Next based on track record, history and how far this product is beyond repair it needs to start over or go away.
You cannot make a complex book from 6 pages of info.
SWG is now tainted, a failure and with all of the leadership changes and bullshit tied to it.. it has EARNED its awards well this past year... of worst MMO ever, not to mention all the other bad ones.
At this point all 10k of the playerbase that is left needs to know they were taken for a ride and should quit paying for a sub-par product so we can get a new one in place that is worth it.
This letter proves that they fucked up.... bringing back things because they screwed up so bad that a year later they are letting people go, getting rid of the dev team that made the NGE and are now a day late and a dollar short.
As being on the biggest fans of the game prior to the NGE... I can safely say that no way will the game ever be what it once was... or even half of it.
I rather pay the 15 bucks to getting my toes cleaned once a month then paying for the product.
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
It has been awhile since I played KoToR but I could have swore it took alot longer then 10 mins before your charcter was a jedi. Had to get off that planet first and make it to danto which for me took a few hours.
Now the second one I think you start as a jedi or not to long after you start playing. I could be wrong been awhile since I loaded either game up
There is good news in this letter. JT is gone. SWG will slowly integrate everything that was Pre CU except the skill system now that the problems have moved on to other "successful projects" just like we have been stating for months on end. They really need to add major free content for the next year.
Same ole same ole, and yea i can just imgine how much the current player base is enjoying the re surfacing of the ole experaince bug. That even after a hot fix is still broke. Yep i'm sure there enjoying that lots and lots
Same ole same ole, and yea i can just imgine how much the current player base is enjoying the re surfacing of the ole experaince bug. That even after a hot fix is still broke. Yep i'm sure there enjoying that lots and lots
LOL.. yes at this point it needs to go away. Yes, based on track record and history I can safely say like I did at the start of the NGE... THAT it would suck and lose people. Waahllaaa.. Next based on track record, history and how far this product is beyond repair it needs to start over or go away. You cannot make a complex book from 6 pages of info. SWG is now tainted, a failure and with all of the leadership changes and bullshit tied to it.. it has EARNED its awards well this past year... of worst MMO ever, not to mention all the other bad ones. At this point all 10k of the playerbase that is left needs to know they were taken for a ride and should quit paying for a sub-par product so we can get a new one in place that is worth it. This letter proves that they fucked up.... bringing back things because they screwed up so bad that a year later they are letting people go, getting rid of the dev team that made the NGE and are now a day late and a dollar short. As being on the biggest fans of the game prior to the NGE... I can safely say that no way will the game ever be what it once was... or even half of it. I rather pay the 15 bucks to getting my toes cleaned once a month then paying for the product.
Don't you even try to fucking blame the current playerbase for why you aren't getting your precious pre-CU back. If you hate the game so much then find a new one. Your whining will do nothing but waste your time. I swear dude, if you brought that shit back to the regular forums your thread would be full of either
a) people who still play the NGE and happen to enjoy it
or b) People who don't like the NGE but realize that Pre-CU is NOT coming back, and that this is the only form of a star wars MMO that there is right now.
Don't blame the people who enjoy the game for why there isn't an SWG2. You need to get over it and find something else to do other than bash anything the devs do with completely biased opinions. Please, test the game currently before you form your opinions, and once again, don't even try to fucking blame why the devs aren't doing everything you want on the playerbase. Buck up or shut the fuck up.
Roflroflrofl copters all the way sport.
The people that are left playing the NGE accept anything and will tolerate pretty much being stepped on at this point.
The people left are not near the numbers that pre-NGE anything was... pretty much could be sacrificed I think at this point to make a better game... I mean really, they did it to 200k plus... whats 10-15k?
The current game is still missing animations, looked like Benny Hill on crack fighting and is still less complex then a bad FPS.
The current game still got the MMO awards it did this year based on what it is like... Now then, as a huge fan of Star Wars.. you would think there would be 1 million people playing this game just based on how many SW fans there is? At the SW convetions and summits... people do not even consider this game worthy of the title in case you did not know.
SWG is so far removed from cannon Star Wars that it is now a insult to the franchise, based on it's history, track record, awards and lets not forget how well recieved from the press it has been over the last year...
SOOOO with that said, you should go back in your game and play with the kids while you can because sooner or later they will figure out a way to merge servers, make new ones.. or get rid of what is left of the game and call it "Star Wars Kids online".
Being that I posted on the old boards more times then you logged into the game I think it's safe to say that you need to understand some logic and good consumer adivce.
If SWG was a car, we would all be dead. Twice.....
______________________________ I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process..... SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
"The people that are left playing the NGE accept anything and will tolerate pretty much being stepped on at this point."
Man....truer words were never spoken!
Do you ever just wonder that maybe they're doing an experiment to see just what some people would put up with and still pay to play the game? You have to admit, a list of the players that would put up with such crappy customer service might be worth a lot in the right hands:
"For Sale: List of customers that will tolerate dumb-downed game play and sub-par customer service, along with total revamps done without warning, Customers are also tolerant of vague promises about possible improvements far in the future. As an added bonus this customer base doesn't mind iron fisted moderation of official forums and is accepting of the deletion of several thousand forum posts that point out any bugs or poor customer service. No need to hold up your game release time, just buy our list and target these customers and you're set! Heck, feel free to can 2/3 of your customer service folks....with this crowd, who needs them? Contact SOE @lackofcustomerservice.com
When I read the fanboi replies, I always remember back to when SOE was caught having their employee's write glowing reviews about their own products. Makes me think that it's possible that they're still doing it.
Gotta love the ethics of SOE!
Those are two words that should never be together..... ethics and SOE!
LOL.. yes at this point it needs to go away. Yes, based on track record and history I can safely say like I did at the start of the NGE... THAT it would suck and lose people. Waahllaaa.. Next based on track record, history and how far this product is beyond repair it needs to start over or go away. You cannot make a complex book from 6 pages of info. SWG is now tainted, a failure and with all of the leadership changes and bullshit tied to it.. it has EARNED its awards well this past year... of worst MMO ever, not to mention all the other bad ones. At this point all 10k of the playerbase that is left needs to know they were taken for a ride and should quit paying for a sub-par product so we can get a new one in place that is worth it. This letter proves that they fucked up.... bringing back things because they screwed up so bad that a year later they are letting people go, getting rid of the dev team that made the NGE and are now a day late and a dollar short. As being on the biggest fans of the game prior to the NGE... I can safely say that no way will the game ever be what it once was... or even half of it. I rather pay the 15 bucks to getting my toes cleaned once a month then paying for the product.
Don't you even try to fucking blame the current playerbase for why you aren't getting your precious pre-CU back. If you hate the game so much then find a new one. Your whining will do nothing but waste your time. I swear dude, if you brought that shit back to the regular forums your thread would be full of either
a) people who still play the NGE and happen to enjoy it
or b) People who don't like the NGE but realize that Pre-CU is NOT coming back, and that this is the only form of a star wars MMO that there is right now.
Don't blame the people who enjoy the game for why there isn't an SWG2. You need to get over it and find something else to do other than bash anything the devs do with completely biased opinions. Please, test the game currently before you form your opinions, and once again, don't even try to fucking blame why the devs aren't doing everything you want on the playerbase. Buck up or shut the fuck up.
Roflroflrofl copters all the way sport.
The people that are left playing the NGE accept anything and will tolerate pretty much being stepped on at this point.
The people left are not near the numbers that pre-NGE anything was... pretty much could be sacrificed I think at this point to make a better game... I mean really, they did it to 200k plus... whats 10-15k?
The current game is still missing animations, looked like Benny Hill on crack fighting and is still less complex then a bad FPS.
The current game still got the MMO awards it did this year based on what it is like... Now then, as a huge fan of Star Wars.. you would think there would be 1 million people playing this game just based on how many SW fans there is? At the SW convetions and summits... people do not even consider this game worthy of the title in case you did not know.
SWG is so far removed from cannon Star Wars that it is now a insult to the franchise, based on it's history, track record, awards and lets not forget how well recieved from the press it has been over the last year...
SOOOO with that said, you should go back in your game and play with the kids while you can because sooner or later they will figure out a way to merge servers, make new ones.. or get rid of what is left of the game and call it "Star Wars Kids online".
Being that I posted on the old boards more times then you logged into the game I think it's safe to say that you need to understand some logic and good consumer adivce.
If SWG was a car, we would all be dead. Twice.....
So what you are saying is that you are mad that you aren't getting your precious developer attention? I will say this once more...pre-cu is NOT coming back and as much as you must HATE the game as it is now it is staying. I got over that shit about a year ago, while you apparently, are still masturbating over pre-cu gameplay. If you accept the fact that the NGE is here to stay I am sure you will view it differently. Maybe your opinions backed up by your bullshit logic might make some sense after you look at the game in a way other than "Oh, it is the NGE it must suck" while you haven't even logged in since it went live.
I swear, your logic is such bullshit. Not ONCE have I seen you post anything other than flaming the devs, flaming a person who has opinions that are different than yours, or flaming the NGE in general. You are the fucking reason for the NGE, all you did was piss and moan so much about how this sucks and this sucks please change it. You think you are superior to anyone who plays the NGE, although you are most certainly not at all my friend, not at all. If SWG is full of kids then this forum is full of fucking babies.
I am sure that while your post count might have been high, it was full of pissy, bullshit posts that had nothing to do with improving the game. An issue that you seem to be most concerned about, right? Or wait, do you just want to kill the game because if you can't have what you want, no one can? You say you want the game to be restored to it's greatness, but you make no effort to help out? You can't post because I am sure your account is banned for posting about the NGE right? Smart move, eh?
Once again, your logic is bullshit and you are the type of person that people don't like to talk to. Biased with an overall negative attitude. I hope that one day you will realize that something the devs do is good for the game for once, and not full of shit like you always think of it to be.
When I read the fanboi replies, I always remember back to when SOE was caught having their employee's write glowing reviews about their own products. Makes me think that it's possible that they're still doing it.
Gotta love the ethics of SOE!
Yep, I work for SOE and I am writing these replies right now.
Originally posted by iskareot I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
LOL.. yes at this point it needs to go away. Yes, based on track record and history I can safely say like I did at the start of the NGE... THAT it would suck and lose people. Waahllaaa.. Next based on track record, history and how far this product is beyond repair it needs to start over or go away. You cannot make a complex book from 6 pages of info. SWG is now tainted, a failure and with all of the leadership changes and bullshit tied to it.. it has EARNED its awards well this past year... of worst MMO ever, not to mention all the other bad ones. At this point all 10k of the playerbase that is left needs to know they were taken for a ride and should quit paying for a sub-par product so we can get a new one in place that is worth it. This letter proves that they fucked up.... bringing back things because they screwed up so bad that a year later they are letting people go, getting rid of the dev team that made the NGE and are now a day late and a dollar short. As being on the biggest fans of the game prior to the NGE... I can safely say that no way will the game ever be what it once was... or even half of it. I rather pay the 15 bucks to getting my toes cleaned once a month then paying for the product.
Don't you even try to fucking blame the current playerbase for why you aren't getting your precious pre-CU back. If you hate the game so much then find a new one. Your whining will do nothing but waste your time. I swear dude, if you brought that shit back to the regular forums your thread would be full of either
a) people who still play the NGE and happen to enjoy it
or b) People who don't like the NGE but realize that Pre-CU is NOT coming back, and that this is the only form of a star wars MMO that there is right now.
Don't blame the people who enjoy the game for why there isn't an SWG2. You need to get over it and find something else to do other than bash anything the devs do with completely biased opinions. Please, test the game currently before you form your opinions, and once again, don't even try to fucking blame why the devs aren't doing everything you want on the playerbase. Buck up or shut the fuck up.
Roflroflrofl copters all the way sport.
The people that are left playing the NGE accept anything and will tolerate pretty much being stepped on at this point.
The people left are not near the numbers that pre-NGE anything was... pretty much could be sacrificed I think at this point to make a better game... I mean really, they did it to 200k plus... whats 10-15k?
The current game is still missing animations, looked like Benny Hill on crack fighting and is still less complex then a bad FPS.
The current game still got the MMO awards it did this year based on what it is like... Now then, as a huge fan of Star Wars.. you would think there would be 1 million people playing this game just based on how many SW fans there is? At the SW convetions and summits... people do not even consider this game worthy of the title in case you did not know.
SWG is so far removed from cannon Star Wars that it is now a insult to the franchise, based on it's history, track record, awards and lets not forget how well recieved from the press it has been over the last year...
SOOOO with that said, you should go back in your game and play with the kids while you can because sooner or later they will figure out a way to merge servers, make new ones.. or get rid of what is left of the game and call it "Star Wars Kids online".
Being that I posted on the old boards more times then you logged into the game I think it's safe to say that you need to understand some logic and good consumer adivce.
If SWG was a car, we would all be dead. Twice.....
So what you are saying is that you are mad that you aren't getting your precious developer attention? I will say this once more...pre-cu is NOT coming back and as much as you must HATE the game as it is now it is staying. I got over that shit about a year ago, while you apparently, are still masturbating over pre-cu gameplay. If you accept the fact that the NGE is here to stay I am sure you will view it differently. Maybe your opinions backed up by your bullshit logic might make some sense after you look at the game in a way other than "Oh, it is the NGE it must suck" while you haven't even logged in since it went live.
I swear, your logic is such bullshit. Not ONCE have I seen you post anything other than flaming the devs, flaming a person who has opinions that are different than yours, or flaming the NGE in general. You are the fucking reason for the NGE, all you did was piss and moan so much about how this sucks and this sucks please change it. You think you are superior to anyone who plays the NGE, although you are most certainly not at all my friend, not at all. If SWG is full of kids then this forum is full of fucking babies.
I am sure that while your post count might have been high, it was full of pissy, bullshit posts that had nothing to do with improving the game. An issue that you seem to be most concerned about, right? Or wait, do you just want to kill the game because if you can't have what you want, no one can? You say you want the game to be restored to it's greatness, but you make no effort to help out? You can't post because I am sure your account is banned for posting about the NGE right? Smart move, eh?
Once again, your logic is bullshit and you are the type of person that people don't like to talk to. Biased with an overall negative attitude. I hope that one day you will realize that something the devs do is good for the game for once, and not full of shit like you always think of it to be.
Hey genius you don't have to "accept" anything. I know in your world taking it up the ass and accepting any bull crap appears to be ok with you. However, alot of us in life don't just accept what is thrown at us. We don't let people walk all over us.
The NGE may very well be "here to stay" but the only reason SWG with the NGE is "here to stay" is people continue to pay to play it.
As for our opinion of the NGE game that you mocked as biast. Everyone here has tried the NGE. Most of us 2 or 3 different times. Most of us HATE THAT VERSION. IT IS INFERIOR TO THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE GAME IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
Professions, combat, crafting, harvesting, economy, player numbers all are worse then before. Promises made to fix the NGE combat system particularly the fps aspect to make it work like an fps never materialized. The game is constantly bring back snippets of the previous version with a totally inferior system then what once existed.
Yes I'd personally rather see SWG shutdown then continue as it is right now. Its bad for SOE's reputation, the people who are developing it, the players, and the mmo industry. You want us to make postive suggestions to fix the NGE? Most of us view it as unfixable and unplayable. The only fix we see after over a year is that it must be reverted. You and soe just don't agree with that assessment of how to fix the game. Sorry what do you want from us? We don't like the NGE version of SWG and dont want to play that game in how it is now.
I'm just gonna go ahead and says it; Since you guys are here, maybe you can explain why you guys can't give us a seperate classic server. With a sandbox system, content wasn't too big of a deal.
This is all too little too late.
This has really been addressed a number of times...But the short answer is that we cannot support two code bases. We provide a game and we are proud of it. There will be no classic servers. Question answered...Please move on folks.
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Do you honestly believe a developer would have any idea what is happening in the board room at SOE?
At this point I couldn't care less about pre-CU servers, however I wouldn't take this as the word of God. This is just another lackey at SOE who is saying what he is told to say. It's management that makes these kinds of decisions, and they've been known to change their minds from time to time. Lastly, managers change. Even Smed (with any hope) will move on one day. Who's to know what the next CEO will do.
He's the producer, not a dev. He says no, Smed says no, so the answer is no.
Um well since they cant roll back and cant offer a classic..i offer a solution since they ADDBACK things from PRECU id like to help the forward progress with positive ADDBACKS that will generate positive forward progress..
*Add back the profession system except dont change it just add new ones to it ie a 2nd tree in a specialized mastery like BH would have Jedi Hunter as a choice..Rifleman would have Sniper...Smuggler would just get to smuggle..
*Get rid of the horrid UI add back the CU one without the lame animation icons..ADDBACK the one similar to what we had when it worked...
*Add Back the Skill system and toss the level one
*Dont try to balance the professions give them strength and weaknesses and ACC mods vs armor and Dodge kinda like they used to be balanced for PVE and PVP...
*ADD Back States KD,Blind ect adds content and challenges to battles
*ADD back the HAMF bars Health Action Mind Force..For all the Mind bar whines give em a mind stim so they stop crying they dont have a mind attack..
*ADDBACK the Knight Trials and Fix the FRS without the cheating
*ADDBACK the states will allow all NPC's to also become more of a challenge
*ADDBACK Creature Resist and States they can land includes nitesisters using the force
*ADDBACK the Power vs Risk system ie skill loss saber tefs after jedi is unnerfed
*ADD Master Profession hard to get but adds more skill to each profession but add same risk/power to those professions
*AddBACK Crafted items being better than loot back
* ADDBACK decay and HAM damage and Battle fatigue..
*ADDBACK Buff packs med stims and Foods..
Ive just posted some moving forward things to add to the NGE as requested by the DEVS.Since we cant have rollbacks or classic servers i can see we can have Add BACKS ,so I believe these ADD BACKS will help the NGE grow.. plus ADDBACK is Iconic and Starwarsy so it will meld well with the NGE..And if any other Vet wants to help out here with SOE's request to move forward feel free to add your Helpfull input..Happy Gaming!!!!
You think that just because Julio Torres moved to the Force Unleased that it is going to go down the tubes now? Wow. Just wow. I know he is horrible, and he knows nothing about MMORPG's, but perhaps he might be a bit better working on a single player game. Besides, they never mentioned what position he would be at, so don't just go off assuming that he is the damn Lead Designer or anything. I doubt he could ruin anything if he was working with 50 experienced game developers (or however many they have on the team).
Wow
What rock did you crawl out of? You do know Julio Torres was one of the people in charge of the NGE right? The NGE that caused tens of thousands of people to leave en masse in a matter of weeks was a result to Torres management.
You cannot deny that. It's fact....its not a questionable action that may have happened. It really did happen.
Wow..... I just never knew people that ignorant existed. You never seen SWG pre NGE have you?
And if you say yes you did, then you are a flat out liar.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Not good news for Force Unleashed. You know Julio is gonna screw something up.
At best (for NGE players, which Im not) I was expecting some sort of heavy content or expansion.
yeah, poor NGE players dont get much meat on the bone it seems. Woohoo lets get excited about creature handleing, something that was ALREADY WORKING before... and um, toys to place for events (thats all cool but did anyone really want that?). Thats the whole point Ive made all this time: they break the wheel and reinvent it over again. Ouu how exciting.
Exactly real bad news for that game.
Unreal that he is involved in that... just unreal. I would never put someone in charge of that project after what he did to SWG.
You think that just because Julio Torres moved to the Force Unleased that it is going to go down the tubes now? Wow. Just wow. I know he is horrible, and he knows nothing about MMORPG's, but perhaps he might be a bit better working on a single player game. Besides, they never mentioned what position he would be at, so don't just go off assuming that he is the damn Lead Designer or anything. I doubt he could ruin anything if he was working with 50 experienced game developers (or however many they have on the team).
I think that anything which "Julio Torres" touches turns to turds. I had recently went over this and his inclusion into "Force Unleased" with a few people.
There's at least 10 who are not going to buy it just for the fact of Julio Torres being affiliated with it. And this was obtained from less then 24 hours worth of "Star Wars video games" discussions.
Julio Torres is a fool. Lucas Arts are fools. SOE is an entirely different story, and a bad one at that.
Too bad though, I was looking forward to Force Unleashed until I saw that ass hats name attached to it. I am very confident I'll be playing other games equally as enjoying if not superbly designed.
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Is deadmeat a new guy?Removing content then adding it back into a game isnt new content
Just watch guys, the new creature handling stuff probably wont even be as good as the old system. How could it be as good without bio engineer and all? Might be more balanced though 
Seriously, as opposed to removing a whole system and then recreating it, was that really easier than just balancing the previous system?
This has really been addressed a number of times...But the short answer is that we cannot support two code bases. We provide a game and we are proud of it. There will be no classic servers. Question answered...Please move on folks.DM
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They didn't. They replaced the old one with a new one with the other. Therefore, there is only one codebase, and that is what they are supporting.
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Do you honestly believe a developer would have any idea what is happening in the board room at SOE?
At this point I couldn't care less about pre-CU servers, however I wouldn't take this as the word of God. This is just another lackey at SOE who is saying what he is told to say. It's management that makes these kinds of decisions, and they've been known to change their minds from time to time. Lastly, managers change. Even Smed (with any hope) will move on one day. Who's to know what the next CEO will do.
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Um no it will suck because it wont be as good nore as polished as the old CH was..It may bring a few back to the game but i doubt it will bring massive amounts.Cause nothing since the CUNGE has been as good as the systems before it..Even tho CU was crap to me the NGE is the Turd..And as long as its all WoWIsh and clumsy they still arent addressing the original complaints with SWG. Bugs and content top 2..
Now 2 years later you get neither of those 2 issues resolved but get a Rehashed CH Talent tree added..Good lord that sounds so so good..It wont be the same no matter what they add back unless the Core game is fixed first.Meaning all the bugs the horrid UI, Levels,Lack of professions and skills, Benny hill combat engine, Complexity, Sandbox gameplay..Now thats fixing the game not adding a rehashed subpar talent back that wont be as good as it once was..I think pre april 05 content to the game wouldve helped more than 2 revamps no one liked but a small group..This isnt going to help since no expansion means 0 money so the game is stuck in its curent crapfest..Enjoy the beast mastery talents im sure it will be so fun again..
And since the all the old Devs are gone means success dang i want a job!!! I know what will fix the game its just not what any SOE dev wants to hear..You have to fix the Core problems before you can move forward.FOr SWG to move forward would require another total revamp not bastardizing old professions and calling it new..They just dont get it the Game engine wasnt the problem its these stupid bugs and unpolished crap they keep spoon feeding everyone..So enjoy the NGE its here to stay, man it will be lonely for a long time if it continues in the direction its headed..They say moving forward i say 2 steps back and back and back and back..And time tells all tales if the game is saved or a turd getting ready to flush..Its gonna be a funny year for SWG...
1) Just because you won't play it doesn't mean others won't.
2) You have no idea what SWG will be doing this year, no one does. So quit trying to make assumptions about how SWG is going to suck this year too.
3) If you got hired as an SWG dev you wouldn't be making the decisions, management would. You would just be working on the system.
4) Would you rather them just keep any form of CH out of the NGE, or bring it back and make players happy. I mean seriously, people are always whining that the devs never listen to what the players want. Well, a few months ago there were a few RFC threads. One mentioning a "Beast Master" concept, one that I recall everyone on this forum calling it a "carrot on a stick" type thing and that the devs will never go through with it. Well that thread grew with positive responses and feedback, and now here we are with Beast Master coming next chapter. They listened to the players, and now the players are happy.
5) Somehow if you did happen to get a job at SWG, I am pretty sure you would spend your time trying to kill the game rather than fix it. You show so much hate towards the game in general that I am having a hard time realizing that you would actually want to help it.
That letter and the new introduction to a "Beastmaster" Prof tells me they are saying. "Damn I guess all those vets were right." Since they cluster-f**ked everything and no way of going back because of development costs, I figure this year we will be seeing a lot and lot of old PRE-CU elements come back in the game, they will bring the profs back little by little and the talk of the new combat revamp again..makes me wonder if they will be hitting the direction of the old combat system, but polishing it up like it should have been done the first time.
The NGE may be here to stay, but if they keep heading the direction they are going we may be seeing more PRE-CU than NGE and that'll make a hell of a happy crowd.
LOL.. yes at this point it needs to go away.
Yes, based on track record and history I can safely say like I did at the start of the NGE... THAT it would suck and lose people.
Waahllaaa..
Next based on track record, history and how far this product is beyond repair it needs to start over or go away.
You cannot make a complex book from 6 pages of info.
SWG is now tainted, a failure and with all of the leadership changes and bullshit tied to it.. it has EARNED its awards well this past year... of worst MMO ever, not to mention all the other bad ones.
At this point all 10k of the playerbase that is left needs to know they were taken for a ride and should quit paying for a sub-par product so we can get a new one in place that is worth it.
This letter proves that they fucked up.... bringing back things because they screwed up so bad that a year later they are letting people go, getting rid of the dev team that made the NGE and are now a day late and a dollar short.
As being on the biggest fans of the game prior to the NGE... I can safely say that no way will the game ever be what it once was... or even half of it.
I rather pay the 15 bucks to getting my toes cleaned once a month then paying for the product.
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
It has been awhile since I played KoToR but I could have swore it took alot longer then 10 mins before your charcter was a jedi. Had to get off that planet first and make it to danto which for me took a few hours.
Now the second one I think you start as a jedi or not to long after you start playing. I could be wrong been awhile since I loaded either game up
Experience bug?
When I read the fanboi replies, I always remember back to when SOE was caught having their employee's write glowing reviews about their own products.
Makes me think that it's possible that they're still doing it.
Gotta love the ethics of SOE!
Don't you even try to fucking blame the current playerbase for why you aren't getting your precious pre-CU back. If you hate the game so much then find a new one. Your whining will do nothing but waste your time. I swear dude, if you brought that shit back to the regular forums your thread would be full of either
a) people who still play the NGE and happen to enjoy it
or b) People who don't like the NGE but realize that Pre-CU is NOT coming back, and that this is the only form of a star wars MMO that there is right now.
Don't blame the people who enjoy the game for why there isn't an SWG2. You need to get over it and find something else to do other than bash anything the devs do with completely biased opinions. Please, test the game currently before you form your opinions, and once again, don't even try to fucking blame why the devs aren't doing everything you want on the playerbase. Buck up or shut the fuck up.
Roflroflrofl copters all the way sport.
The people that are left playing the NGE accept anything and will tolerate pretty much being stepped on at this point.
The people left are not near the numbers that pre-NGE anything was... pretty much could be sacrificed I think at this point to make a better game... I mean really, they did it to 200k plus... whats 10-15k?
The current game is still missing animations, looked like Benny Hill on crack fighting and is still less complex then a bad FPS.
The current game still got the MMO awards it did this year based on what it is like... Now then, as a huge fan of Star Wars.. you would think there would be 1 million people playing this game just based on how many SW fans there is? At the SW convetions and summits... people do not even consider this game worthy of the title in case you did not know.
SWG is so far removed from cannon Star Wars that it is now a insult to the franchise, based on it's history, track record, awards and lets not forget how well recieved from the press it has been over the last year...
SOOOO with that said, you should go back in your game and play with the kids while you can because sooner or later they will figure out a way to merge servers, make new ones.. or get rid of what is left of the game and call it "Star Wars Kids online".
Being that I posted on the old boards more times then you logged into the game I think it's safe to say that you need to understand some logic and good consumer adivce.
If SWG was a car, we would all be dead. Twice.....
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I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1
"The people that are left playing the NGE accept anything and will tolerate pretty much being stepped on at this point."
Man....truer words were never spoken!
Do you ever just wonder that maybe they're doing an experiment to see just what some people would put up with and still pay to play the game? You have to admit, a list of the players that would put up with such crappy customer service might be worth a lot in the right hands:
"For Sale: List of customers that will tolerate dumb-downed game play and sub-par customer service, along with total revamps done without warning, Customers are also tolerant of vague promises about possible improvements far in the future.
As an added bonus this customer base doesn't mind iron fisted moderation of official forums and is accepting of the deletion of several thousand forum posts that point out any bugs or poor customer service.
No need to hold up your game release time, just buy our list and target these customers and you're set! Heck, feel free to can 2/3 of your customer service folks....with this crowd, who needs them?
Contact SOE @lackofcustomerservice.com
Don't you even try to fucking blame the current playerbase for why you aren't getting your precious pre-CU back. If you hate the game so much then find a new one. Your whining will do nothing but waste your time. I swear dude, if you brought that shit back to the regular forums your thread would be full of either
a) people who still play the NGE and happen to enjoy it
or b) People who don't like the NGE but realize that Pre-CU is NOT coming back, and that this is the only form of a star wars MMO that there is right now.
Don't blame the people who enjoy the game for why there isn't an SWG2. You need to get over it and find something else to do other than bash anything the devs do with completely biased opinions. Please, test the game currently before you form your opinions, and once again, don't even try to fucking blame why the devs aren't doing everything you want on the playerbase. Buck up or shut the fuck up.
Roflroflrofl copters all the way sport.
The people that are left playing the NGE accept anything and will tolerate pretty much being stepped on at this point.
The people left are not near the numbers that pre-NGE anything was... pretty much could be sacrificed I think at this point to make a better game... I mean really, they did it to 200k plus... whats 10-15k?
The current game is still missing animations, looked like Benny Hill on crack fighting and is still less complex then a bad FPS.
The current game still got the MMO awards it did this year based on what it is like... Now then, as a huge fan of Star Wars.. you would think there would be 1 million people playing this game just based on how many SW fans there is? At the SW convetions and summits... people do not even consider this game worthy of the title in case you did not know.
SWG is so far removed from cannon Star Wars that it is now a insult to the franchise, based on it's history, track record, awards and lets not forget how well recieved from the press it has been over the last year...
SOOOO with that said, you should go back in your game and play with the kids while you can because sooner or later they will figure out a way to merge servers, make new ones.. or get rid of what is left of the game and call it "Star Wars Kids online".
Being that I posted on the old boards more times then you logged into the game I think it's safe to say that you need to understand some logic and good consumer adivce.
If SWG was a car, we would all be dead. Twice.....
So what you are saying is that you are mad that you aren't getting your precious developer attention? I will say this once more...pre-cu is NOT coming back and as much as you must HATE the game as it is now it is staying. I got over that shit about a year ago, while you apparently, are still masturbating over pre-cu gameplay. If you accept the fact that the NGE is here to stay I am sure you will view it differently. Maybe your opinions backed up by your bullshit logic might make some sense after you look at the game in a way other than "Oh, it is the NGE it must suck" while you haven't even logged in since it went live.
I swear, your logic is such bullshit. Not ONCE have I seen you post anything other than flaming the devs, flaming a person who has opinions that are different than yours, or flaming the NGE in general. You are the fucking reason for the NGE, all you did was piss and moan so much about how this sucks and this sucks please change it. You think you are superior to anyone who plays the NGE, although you are most certainly not at all my friend, not at all. If SWG is full of kids then this forum is full of fucking babies.
I am sure that while your post count might have been high, it was full of pissy, bullshit posts that had nothing to do with improving the game. An issue that you seem to be most concerned about, right? Or wait, do you just want to kill the game because if you can't have what you want, no one can? You say you want the game to be restored to it's greatness, but you make no effort to help out? You can't post because I am sure your account is banned for posting about the NGE right? Smart move, eh?
Once again, your logic is bullshit and you are the type of person that people don't like to talk to. Biased with an overall negative attitude. I hope that one day you will realize that something the devs do is good for the game for once, and not full of shit like you always think of it to be.
Don't you even try to fucking blame the current playerbase for why you aren't getting your precious pre-CU back. If you hate the game so much then find a new one. Your whining will do nothing but waste your time. I swear dude, if you brought that shit back to the regular forums your thread would be full of either
a) people who still play the NGE and happen to enjoy it
or b) People who don't like the NGE but realize that Pre-CU is NOT coming back, and that this is the only form of a star wars MMO that there is right now.
Don't blame the people who enjoy the game for why there isn't an SWG2. You need to get over it and find something else to do other than bash anything the devs do with completely biased opinions. Please, test the game currently before you form your opinions, and once again, don't even try to fucking blame why the devs aren't doing everything you want on the playerbase. Buck up or shut the fuck up.
Roflroflrofl copters all the way sport.
The people that are left playing the NGE accept anything and will tolerate pretty much being stepped on at this point.
The people left are not near the numbers that pre-NGE anything was... pretty much could be sacrificed I think at this point to make a better game... I mean really, they did it to 200k plus... whats 10-15k?
The current game is still missing animations, looked like Benny Hill on crack fighting and is still less complex then a bad FPS.
The current game still got the MMO awards it did this year based on what it is like... Now then, as a huge fan of Star Wars.. you would think there would be 1 million people playing this game just based on how many SW fans there is? At the SW convetions and summits... people do not even consider this game worthy of the title in case you did not know.
SWG is so far removed from cannon Star Wars that it is now a insult to the franchise, based on it's history, track record, awards and lets not forget how well recieved from the press it has been over the last year...
SOOOO with that said, you should go back in your game and play with the kids while you can because sooner or later they will figure out a way to merge servers, make new ones.. or get rid of what is left of the game and call it "Star Wars Kids online".
Being that I posted on the old boards more times then you logged into the game I think it's safe to say that you need to understand some logic and good consumer adivce.
If SWG was a car, we would all be dead. Twice.....
So what you are saying is that you are mad that you aren't getting your precious developer attention? I will say this once more...pre-cu is NOT coming back and as much as you must HATE the game as it is now it is staying. I got over that shit about a year ago, while you apparently, are still masturbating over pre-cu gameplay. If you accept the fact that the NGE is here to stay I am sure you will view it differently. Maybe your opinions backed up by your bullshit logic might make some sense after you look at the game in a way other than "Oh, it is the NGE it must suck" while you haven't even logged in since it went live.
I swear, your logic is such bullshit. Not ONCE have I seen you post anything other than flaming the devs, flaming a person who has opinions that are different than yours, or flaming the NGE in general. You are the fucking reason for the NGE, all you did was piss and moan so much about how this sucks and this sucks please change it. You think you are superior to anyone who plays the NGE, although you are most certainly not at all my friend, not at all. If SWG is full of kids then this forum is full of fucking babies.
I am sure that while your post count might have been high, it was full of pissy, bullshit posts that had nothing to do with improving the game. An issue that you seem to be most concerned about, right? Or wait, do you just want to kill the game because if you can't have what you want, no one can? You say you want the game to be restored to it's greatness, but you make no effort to help out? You can't post because I am sure your account is banned for posting about the NGE right? Smart move, eh?
Once again, your logic is bullshit and you are the type of person that people don't like to talk to. Biased with an overall negative attitude. I hope that one day you will realize that something the devs do is good for the game for once, and not full of shit like you always think of it to be.
Hey genius you don't have to "accept" anything. I know in your world taking it up the ass and accepting any bull crap appears to be ok with you. However, alot of us in life don't just accept what is thrown at us. We don't let people walk all over us.
The NGE may very well be "here to stay" but the only reason SWG with the NGE is "here to stay" is people continue to pay to play it.
As for our opinion of the NGE game that you mocked as biast. Everyone here has tried the NGE. Most of us 2 or 3 different times. Most of us HATE THAT VERSION. IT IS INFERIOR TO THE PREVIOUS VERSION OF THE GAME IN EVERY SINGLE WAY.
Professions, combat, crafting, harvesting, economy, player numbers all are worse then before. Promises made to fix the NGE combat system particularly the fps aspect to make it work like an fps never materialized. The game is constantly bring back snippets of the previous version with a totally inferior system then what once existed.
Yes I'd personally rather see SWG shutdown then continue as it is right now. Its bad for SOE's reputation, the people who are developing it, the players, and the mmo industry. You want us to make postive suggestions to fix the NGE? Most of us view it as unfixable and unplayable. The only fix we see after over a year is that it must be reverted. You and soe just don't agree with that assessment of how to fix the game. Sorry what do you want from us? We don't like the NGE version of SWG and dont want to play that game in how it is now.
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Do you honestly believe a developer would have any idea what is happening in the board room at SOE?
At this point I couldn't care less about pre-CU servers, however I wouldn't take this as the word of God. This is just another lackey at SOE who is saying what he is told to say. It's management that makes these kinds of decisions, and they've been known to change their minds from time to time. Lastly, managers change. Even Smed (with any hope) will move on one day. Who's to know what the next CEO will do.
He's the producer, not a dev. He says no, Smed says no, so the answer is no.Um well since they cant roll back and cant offer a classic..i offer a solution since they ADDBACK things from PRECU id like to help the forward progress with positive ADDBACKS that will generate positive forward progress..
*Add back the profession system except dont change it just add new ones to it ie a 2nd tree in a specialized mastery like BH would have Jedi Hunter as a choice..Rifleman would have Sniper...Smuggler would just get to smuggle..
*Get rid of the horrid UI add back the CU one without the lame animation icons..ADDBACK the one similar to what we had when it worked...
*Add Back the Skill system and toss the level one
*Dont try to balance the professions give them strength and weaknesses and ACC mods vs armor and Dodge kinda like they used to be balanced for PVE and PVP...
*ADD Back States KD,Blind ect adds content and challenges to battles
*ADD back the HAMF bars Health Action Mind Force..For all the Mind bar whines give em a mind stim so they stop crying they dont have a mind attack..
*ADDBACK the Knight Trials and Fix the FRS without the cheating
*ADDBACK the states will allow all NPC's to also become more of a challenge
*ADDBACK Creature Resist and States they can land includes nitesisters using the force
*ADDBACK the Power vs Risk system ie skill loss saber tefs after jedi is unnerfed
*ADD Master Profession hard to get but adds more skill to each profession but add same risk/power to those professions
*AddBACK Crafted items being better than loot back
* ADDBACK decay and HAM damage and Battle fatigue..
*ADDBACK Buff packs med stims and Foods..
Ive just posted some moving forward things to add to the NGE as requested by the DEVS.Since we cant have rollbacks or classic servers i can see we can have Add BACKS ,so I believe these ADD BACKS will help the NGE grow..
plus ADDBACK is Iconic and Starwarsy so it will meld well with the NGE..And if any other Vet wants to help out here with SOE's request to move forward feel free to add your Helpfull input..Happy Gaming!!!!
You think that just because Julio Torres moved to the Force Unleased that it is going to go down the tubes now? Wow. Just wow. I know he is horrible, and he knows nothing about MMORPG's, but perhaps he might be a bit better working on a single player game. Besides, they never mentioned what position he would be at, so don't just go off assuming that he is the damn Lead Designer or anything. I doubt he could ruin anything if he was working with 50 experienced game developers (or however many they have on the team).
Wow
What rock did you crawl out of? You do know Julio Torres was one of the people in charge of the NGE right? The NGE that caused tens of thousands of people to leave en masse in a matter of weeks was a result to Torres management.
You cannot deny that. It's fact....its not a questionable action that may have happened. It really did happen.
Wow..... I just never knew people that ignorant existed. You never seen SWG pre NGE have you?
And if you say yes you did, then you are a flat out liar.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Julio is now a producer on Star Wars: The Force Unleashed for LucasArts.
That SUX!!!! I really had high hopes for that game.
Exactly real bad news for that game.
Unreal that he is involved in that... just unreal. I would never put someone in charge of that project after what he did to SWG.
You think that just because Julio Torres moved to the Force Unleased that it is going to go down the tubes now? Wow. Just wow. I know he is horrible, and he knows nothing about MMORPG's, but perhaps he might be a bit better working on a single player game. Besides, they never mentioned what position he would be at, so don't just go off assuming that he is the damn Lead Designer or anything. I doubt he could ruin anything if he was working with 50 experienced game developers (or however many they have on the team).
I think that anything which "Julio Torres" touches turns to turds. I had recently went over this and his inclusion into "Force Unleased" with a few people.
There's at least 10 who are not going to buy it just for the fact of Julio Torres being affiliated with it. And this was obtained from less then 24 hours worth of "Star Wars video games" discussions.
Julio Torres is a fool. Lucas Arts are fools. SOE is an entirely different story, and a bad one at that.
Too bad though, I was looking forward to Force Unleashed until I saw that ass hats name attached to it. I am very confident I'll be playing other games equally as enjoying if not superbly designed.