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Vanguard IS a good game guys. Just read.
Vhayne
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I was in Beta for a while, and I really didn't care much for the game. I'm not sure if it was the character models, the laggy graphics, the server lag, or the bugs, and lack of content. I never made it past level 8 in beta.
But last week, I had to make a return at Best Buy, and got store credit. I looked around at the games, and didn't realy see anything I wanted, but I was drawn to the Limited Edition of Vanguard. I wanted this game to be great. I still had hopes that Sigil would fulfill that.
After installing and playing around for a couple of days, I feel they have DEFINATELY fulfilled that. I haven't had this much fun in an mmo (aside from WoW, which is a different beast altogether) since EQ1. I don't know what happened. I absolutely hated the combat in the beta. Maybe it was just the lag, but now, it's awesome! I just hit level 11 as a psionicst. The strategy it takes to work your way to the bottom of a dungeon solo, and take on multiple mobs just hasn't been done right since EQ. Sigil did it right with Vanguard.
I watched my first ingame sunrise last night in Vanguard. The graphics really are beautiful. The animations are smooth, and everything has a relistic feel to it. I do however feel the spell effects and sounds need some work though. EQ2 has them beat in that area.
I'm running the game at max resolution, and Balanced settings (and it still looks incredible). I'm getting on average ~40fps in cities and between 60-80fps outdoors. I haven't done any tweaks at all, except increase my pagefile size.
My specs are:
Core 2 Duo 6600 OC'd to 2.9ghz
2gb Corsair XMS ram
Geforce 7950GX2
7200rpm HD
Yes there are things that still need to be fixed (however I haven't run into any bugs so far), and added. And no, the game isn't complete and they shouldn't have released it yet. But don't let that stop you from enjoying yourself if you have the inclination to try the game out. It's worth it, if you have the PC power to experience it.
The game is a very nice game now, and is only getting better. 
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Anyway, I am glad you are enjoying the game. I am not a fan, but I am happy it is filling the void for others, especially since players never benefit when a game fails.
You may get a boner when you see a sunrise in the game but that will quickly fade. I won't knock you too much though, I was just like you a few weeks ago. It won't last.
You haven't run into any bugs? I could start a new character and hit at least 10 bugs before even levelling. What game are you playing?
I was exactly the same way. After that beta I thought this game was just going to be a memory. It has a long way to go until being polished but I can see what they are trying to do here. It is really epic. Truly a different level. It is more of a world than a game. I think that is the mindset they have to change. They have to mix that world concept and add some elements that are pure fun and gamelike.
Part of the fun this weekend has been the increased XP. The servers are packed and there are lot of people to play with. Unfortunately, the hard core will have their way and the XP will go back. How far back remains to be seen. I am not saying they should have easy XP but complexity does not mean a tedious grind to show progress.
Here's a few tips to help you get the graphics up to high quality, if you have a second hard drive you run games on put the page file on the game drive, for me that helps alot since the page file is one long stripe of space on the drive(4 gb preferably). Once you set it to high quality go in and turn off volumetric clouds that alone bumps up the fps 5 or more frames and set the resolution down to 1280x1024 the difference between that and max resolution is really nil but it helps with performance since it equates to less pixels to render. Also go in on the .ini file and change the shader setting from 10 to 128. Thats all I did for performance tweaks and I can run it with great results and minimum lag.
Specs:
Opteron 185
AN8 32x mobo
2 gigs gskill dual channel cl 2.0
7800 gt
two serial 3.0 gbps drives
Hope to see you in game.
You are absolutely right.
I have the SAME exact setting he does for the exception of: I have 4 gigs of RAM and a 7900 GT and I can only run it on balanced with at the most 20 fps. The code is horribly executed.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
You are absolutely right.
I have the SAME exact setting he does for the exception of: I have 4 gigs of RAM and a 7900 GT and I can only run it on balanced with at the most 20 fps. The code is horribly executed.
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You are absolutely right.
I have the SAME exact setting he does for the exception of: I have 4 gigs of RAM and a 7900 GT and I can only run it on balanced with at the most 20 fps. The code is horribly executed.
What O/S are you running?unfortunately Windows Vista
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Thanks for the advice.
The poster below yours is correct. I'm running on a Dell 20" widescreen LCD, and that res is the only one that looks "right" to me. I tried the another res 1184x? or something like that, and yeah it runs ALOT better, it just doesn't look as nice to me. In fact I created my characer using that res, and because he was stretched so much, I thinned him out. Now that I'm running on the correct res, he looks skinny as a rail lol. Oh well though.
As for you guys saying the code isn't optomized, well, I'm not going to completely argue with you there. There is definately room for improvement. But I remember EQ2's release also. That game could not even look decent with the current technology of the time. My computer isn't top of the line either. Yes it is nice (and thanks for the compliments), but there is a ton more power out there even now. The game looks and runs great even on a non-top-of-the-line system. Now, if you're still running a Athlon 2400xp and 6800gt with 1gb of ram, I don't think you're going to be too happy with the performance. But that's what PC Gaming is. It's a constant battle with upgrades for the newest games. I know people hate to hear that, but it's the truth.
As for the person that posted I'll probably change my mind post 20, who knows. What matters is that I'm having fun now. At the rate I play, it'll probably take me a month to reach 20, and another month to truely get bored if that happens. Even if that's the case, I'll feel it's decent money spent, as it helps me wait out the games I'm REALLY looking forward to (Age of Conan, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate, Crysis, Warhammer, etc).
None of your native resolution crap with one of those, and looks better than any LCD I've seen.
Thanks for the advice.
The poster below yours is correct. I'm running on a Dell 20" widescreen LCD, and that res is the only one that looks "right" to me. I tried the another res 1184x? or something like that, and yeah it runs ALOT better, it just doesn't look as nice to me. In fact I created my characer using that res, and because he was stretched so much, I thinned him out. Now that I'm running on the correct res, he looks skinny as a rail lol. Oh well though.
As for you guys saying the code isn't optomized, well, I'm not going to completely argue with you there. There is definately room for improvement. But I remember EQ2's release also. That game could not even look decent with the current technology of the time. My computer isn't top of the line either. Yes it is nice (and thanks for the compliments), but there is a ton more power out there even now. The game looks and runs great even on a non-top-of-the-line system. Now, if you're still running a Athlon 2400xp and 6800gt with 1gb of ram, I don't think you're going to be too happy with the performance. But that's what PC Gaming is. It's a constant battle with upgrades for the newest games. I know people hate to hear that, but it's the truth.
As for the person that posted I'll probably change my mind post 20, who knows. What matters is that I'm having fun now. At the rate I play, it'll probably take me a month to reach 20, and another month to truely get bored if that happens. Even if that's the case, I'll feel it's decent money spent, as it helps me wait out the games I'm REALLY looking forward to (Age of Conan, Gods and Heroes, Hellgate, Crysis, Warhammer, etc).
Ah sorry man didn't realize you had a LCD can be a bitch in these situations but sounds like a nice monitor. I'm running a 24 inch ViewSonic graphics series so whatever res I choose seems fine but honestly balanced looks ok to me I just enjoy the bells and whistles. Anyway I just hit 20 today with my main and still digging bouncing around the continents doing quest, but anyway to each his own.
Peace
I was absolutely IN LOVE with Vanguard for the first month, and now I'd rather split my penis in half with a rusty butter knife than play.
I don't think it's a bad game, but it definitely doesn't stay fun for more than a month for the seeming vast majority of people. EVERY SINGLE PERSON in my guild from beta has pretty much quit. And we were one of the most hardcore guilds on our server.
I have 2 mules at level 8 (rogue and necro), 2 level 15 Dreadknight alts (Orc FFA PVP and Human PVE), and my main level 31 Shaman (tuurgin). I tried and tried to like it, there's just not much to like unless you can relate to the EQ nostalgia.
EDIT: lol I forgot my FFA PVP Shaman, another level 8 xD
So yeah, I've done my homework.
None of your native resolution crap with one of those, and looks better than any LCD I've seen.
oooook. look, i just got off the hook with the eye doctor, he will receive you in 30 minutes, the door is down there. thanks.
No seriously, I had a trinitron monitor too and then passed to LCD. a good, high quality samsung lcd. And I'm not buying one of those monstrosities ever again. Of course if you compare a sony trinitron with some cheap crappy lcd, it is gonna show. But there are high quality monitors that do not flicker nor lose image even in the most frantic of the games..
"If you give a man a fish, you feed him for a day, if you teach him how to fish, you feed him for a lifetime"
I doubt you have started any new characters recently...say...the past couple of weeks. When did you do this and had so many bugs early on ? You did not specify...was this at launch? or in beta? ...when?
I ask because several massive patches have gone into the game. Many, many of the initial bugs have been ironed out even in the past couple of weeks.
Vanguard on balanced does look great...just imagine what it looks like at maxe settings. He could play at max settings to with about a 30% hit in performance. Likely get around 20 fps in town and 30-40 in the wilderness areas.
The game was built with the future in mind. Graphics have been future proofed so that 3 yrs from now they don't have to spend a few million dollars overhauling the graphics to keep up graphic wise with current releases then.
It does not prove anything at all...cept that we have developers that think farther than 5 min into the future. In fact..it proves to me that Sigil is not out to just make a quick buck...milk every penny they could and then close the doors in a couple years as the player pops begin to drop.
It would have been far cheaper and alot easier to develope a game with less graphics.
I am playing Vanguard...I have over 500 hours played and counting....and have still only seen less than 5% of the games world and content.
I am having a great time ! Our guild is going strong ...with only 5-10 members out of 100 having dropped out of game since launch.
Play Vanguard
The game that sucks less than the rest !
You are absolutely right.
I have the SAME exact setting he does for the exception of: I have 4 gigs of RAM and a 7900 GT and I can only run it on balanced with at the most 20 fps. The code is horribly executed.
What O/S are you running?unfortunately Windows Vista
2 peices of buggy shitty software at a time :O I wouldn't put my pc through that.
You are absolutely right.
I have the SAME exact setting he does for the exception of: I have 4 gigs of RAM and a 7900 GT and I can only run it on balanced with at the most 20 fps. The code is horribly executed.
What O/S are you running?unfortunately Windows Vista
2 peices of buggy shitty software at a time :O I wouldn't put my pc through that.
LMAO!!!!!
Vista Drivers are absolute crap. I have both XP and Vista on my machine, and I get double the FPS in XP that I get in Vista.
It must physically pain people when someone is enjoying something. Or does your guild give out DKP for acting like a shitheel? The guy simply said he liked the game. I know you get extra cool points for making a post stating how much you think the game sucks, and how anyone that is enjoying it is subhuman waste, but unless you're paying for his box purchase and monthly fee, who cares if some total stranger is having a bit of fun?
Person A: Why, I sure am enjoying this tasty sandwich!
Person B: You know, I had a sandwich from that shop, and wanted extra pickles, they gave me extra mustard instead. They don't care about their customers. And btw. their bread is made with 75% rat shit. You're a dumbass if you eat that shops sandwiches.
Person A: /toss sandwich and walk away unhappy
Person B: Mission Accomplished! /victorydance
What the fuck is wrong with people? No matter what the specifics are, any time some person finds some little bit of enjoyment in their life, some asshole has to come butt in, and piss on their parade until that person is just as miserable as they are.
Maybe if people got clipped in the teeth a bit more often when acting like a complete ass, the world would be a bit more polite.
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Well, when I say "good" game, I'm comparing it to the recent selection. There are a TON of mmo's out there, but to me, only about 10-15 are even considered "good" games. And recently we haven't seen a very good trend in new releases unfortunately. the vast majority of "good" games are 2+ years old.
Now, if you like Asian mmos, then yeah, they get a new release every couple of months. But I've tried almost all of them. I end up uninstalling after a few hours of "trying" to get into them, or after I see how much of a mindless grind it is. Alot of those games get "shut-down" by the public, and deservedly so, like Archlord or RF Online.
But I feel Vanguard is in a completely different league. It doesn't deserve the same type of ridicule and bashing that I keep seeing. It's a top quality game with alot of effort gone into it. Yes it still needs work, but that doesn't change the fact, that underneath all those so-called bugs, and laggy performance, it's a diamond in the rough.