For me its's WAR. All my friends will be playing this game on his release, just
because of the RvR system that looks awesome.
As for "what game will be better" only time will tell. There's no need arguing about graphics and such. Who cares if the mmorpgs that you aren't playing are doing fine, as long as you have fun playing yours that's all that matters.
I think Tarask has the best reason so far. I always get games that I know my friends will be playing, even if the game isn't the latest and greatest, a game isn't very fun without some buds to bs around with. AoC has my interest for other reasons that I've stated, but mostly because some people I know are going to be playing it.
Originally posted by maguskwt Your calling me ignorant yet your basing "BEST GRAPHICS" simply on the fact that AoC is using DX10? I still dont think AOC wins "HANDS DOWN" over WAR. To each his own really. Some people like the realistic look, some people like the more fantasy/cartoony look.
fantasy does not equal cartoony...cartoony is just cartoony which is what warhammer and wow is...
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense.
So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU. That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
I never played a Warhammer game, know barely anything about the previous games or the MMORPG, and have no real desire to look into them. That being said, I am going to have to go with AoC.
Overall my reason is that AoC seems to be the revolutionary step in MMORPGs that the genre seriously needs. In other words, Funcom is taking a chance and developing a game they believe will be fun, not one that they players of WoW or EQ would find fun.
The thing about FUNCOM is that its not the first time they try that. They did it with Anarchy Online wich was revolutionnary back then ( i played the game 4 years). Back then the game was incredbly bugged but still had a awsome and complex system. they also were the first to create a 1 server comunauty (the second one created was not really used for a long while).The comunauty was just awsome and the shadowlands ewpantion great although the game was hard.
I m hoping i m wrong and AoC will be a great game ( i ll try it anyways) but so far its just look to me like a showroom for direct10 possibilities and all those very nice grafics wont be available for most of the players due to the very high requirements. As for the content itself i reserve my judgment knowing the passd experience in MMO engine coding from FUNCOM. (bad engines, crowcontrol system awfull, pvp unplayable when more than 15 players in same area, various bugs unfixed etc etc)
Warhammer have a good potential and is based on a solid Licence... most of the times i dont trust on those licences cuz we all know how bad they usually are used.. but this time its MITHYC, with a solid MMO experience on pvp ( RVR on that case) , DAOC still have one of the best pvp system i played ( despite all balance issues).We cant argue about grafics here... again its a Licence 25 years old, and one cannot expect anything else than what it offers the grafics represent the game itself as it is know by its millions of fans and it cant possibly be otherwize ( just like the cartoony grafic of WoW represent wel the RTS the MMO is coming from).
Overall both are very promising and i ll try both, but my best bet goes for Warhmmer at this stade of devellopement f both games..
Why commit yourself to one, at this time, considering the quality of one of the more recent releases, I will wait and pick the best. After all I, used to play the Pen and Paper Warhammer RPG, and I know the world very well. Someone made a comment in one of the pod casts that MMORPGs “are a commitment” and I choose to be wary in my commitments. Licensing games are generally lacking in some aspects, either in support or ingenuity after all they have to pay for the licensing fee some how, but LOTR is the first I have seen that does not suffer, as compared to Star Wars Galaxies, so I will see. Between, Conan and GW’s Warhammer, Game Workshop is notoriously money grubbing in miniatures game pricing and Licensing, after all it a publicly held game company, so I will see where they create the extra revenue.
Well I'll just like to add I have already been stabbed in the back by Funcom before when I played Anarchy Online. I know what they are capable off. So I think I'll let Mythic have a go this time, hopfully they put the dagger in while im asleep or something.
Also when I look at the two development teams there is no comparision. The WAR team is like a open book on a table with a story that is fun to read. They just seem to be a great group of people and people that you cannot help but to cheer for. While the AOC team is like that old man who sits at the back of his study and stares down anyone who dares to open the door.
AOC development teams seems to want to make sure they release bits of info piece by piece at a nice and controlled rate, while the WAR people make you feel apart of what they are doing. Bottom line is AOC is taking the every other MMORPG to dates approach to MMORPG development while WAR is taking a page from WOW.
------------------------------ You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
Your calling me ignorant yet your basing "BEST GRAPHICS" simply on the fact that AoC is using DX10?
I still dont think AOC wins "HANDS DOWN" over WAR. To each his own really.
Some people like the realistic look, some people like the more fantasy/cartoony look.
fantasy does not equal cartoony...cartoony is just cartoony which is what warhammer and wow is...
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense.
So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU.
That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
If you want to play something pretty go get a cute girlfriend. The reason people play games is for the fun of it. I will end up getting both of these games and decided after playing them both which one i like. Both have their ups and their downs. I will never chose a game over another game because it looks better. Thats not why people play and if you are a so called "gamer" that chooses your games that way, then that's just plain stupid. WAR has amazing character classes and is backed by the company that knows what they are doing with pvp/rvr and the more i hear about AoC classes keeps getting me more hooked on it.
Right now this thread is pointless - is way too early. We can't really judge them without more info - devs promise often more then they can deliver. Wait 6 months and you will see what is better for you - everyone has different tastes.
Originally posted by Demz2 Originally posted by logangregor
Originally posted by maguskwt Your calling me ignorant yet your basing "BEST GRAPHICS" simply on the fact that AoC is using DX10? I still dont think AOC wins "HANDS DOWN" over WAR. To each his own really. Some people like the realistic look, some people like the more fantasy/cartoony look.
fantasy does not equal cartoony...cartoony is just cartoony which is what warhammer and wow is...
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense. So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU. That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
I don't want to choose, i'll try out them both, and maybe stick with them both.
Each offers something interresting, that i need to test out ingame wether works or not. Graphics are relatively unrelevant, as eyecandy is only really interresting for the first month. Then the novelty kinda drives off, and you start being used to anything, even subpar graphics.
Anyway, no doubt there will be a consumer battle between AoC and WAR, but i'm pretty sure they both will have an healthy playerbase(I'd like to imagine around 1 million for each).
you can argue how much you want to but age of conan is clearly the better game. it offers more stuff you can do than warhammer. so pretty much age of conan is the game to play. if your a diehard fan of warhammer i guess you can play it. but if you want the better game get conan.
you can argue how much you want to but age of conan is clearly the better game. it offers more stuff you can do than warhammer. so pretty much age of conan is the game to play. if your a diehard fan of warhammer i guess you can play it. but if you want the better game get conan.
very informative. you sure know how to make a point
NOT.
i for one am not impressed with AoC, the combat looks LAME, slow swings that look awkward. not really my cup of tea, as for the said "features" that the above poster has pointed out, i havent heard anything about them. so i dont really know what he is talking about. WAR is made by my favorite MMO company of all time ive played their game for years, loved the pvp. i think they have the next great game on their hands. anyone who is calling it a wow clone is simply retarded.
"If you can only feel safe when everybody else feels, thinks and looks the same as you, then you're a Hood-damned coward...not to mention a vicious tyrant in the making." -Scillara
you can argue how much you want to but age of conan is clearly the better game. it offers more stuff you can do than warhammer. so pretty much age of conan is the game to play. if your a diehard fan of warhammer i guess you can play it. but if you want the better game get conan.
You just show pure ignorance by saying that over a year before the games are released.
And more content =!= Better game. Quantity doesn't always conqure quality. I'm not saying that AoC will have badly made content, but it would be stupid to judge two games that way.
you can argue how much you want to but age of conan is clearly the better game. it offers more stuff you can do than warhammer. so pretty much age of conan is the game to play. if your a diehard fan of warhammer i guess you can play it. but if you want the better game get conan.
very informative. you sure know how to make a point
NOT.
i for one am not impressed with AoC, the combat looks LAME, slow swings that look awkward. not really my cup of tea, as for the said "features" that the above poster has pointed out, i havent heard anything about them. so i dont really know what he is talking about. WAR is made by my favorite MMO company of all time ive played their game for years, loved the pvp. i think they have the next great game on their hands. anyone who is calling it a wow clone is simply retarded.
Wow, you sure know how to make a point as well huh? I can do the same thing. AoC is made by my favorite MMO company of all time, considering I started MMO with Anarchy Online. I think they have the next great game on their hands (Although I will try out WAR as well, I don't hate it, I just don't like WAR fanboi's coming to an AOC, yes AOC board, calling the game they don't want competing with WAR lame when they haven't even done research or if it isn't their cup of tea. You are the ones who are LAME) /end rant
tough call honestly. Funcom has one of the best character development systems ever mmo or rpg in anarchy online. They have one of the best customer service providers for any multyplayer game. Mythic lacks a bit with customer service yet they have a highly pvp intensive title with DAOC. you expereience next to no lag storming a keep with 60 people whereas anarchy online you can lag off the edge of a cliff if a butterfly sneezes 6 million miles away.
I need to see both games perform online before I can truly make a decision. Fun is the most important factor, but if I experience anarchy online lag playing conan I doubt I'll continue to give funcom money. I know there wont be that type of issue with a mythic product
My first MMO was wow so i think i am stuck on the cartoon look .I played a few others that looked real but rly didnt like it.Gonna take some gettin use to for future mmo games for me.Dam u blizz.
since people are gettin confused what i said let me clear it up for ya. now i know that i said aoc was better and all that stuff. i forgot to say that it sounds alot better than warhammer. i know its not out yet but hearin from the people who beta it and what its promising it sounds like the better game to me. your actually involved in the combat. its not just click and watch your guy attack. its choosing how you want to swing your weapon and make combos and stuff. why dont you read about it b4 sayin somthin sucks. if you really like warhammer thats cool i would get it if i was a big fan of it to. warhammer sounds pretty cool im not sayin its a bad game. it just sounds like that age of conan has more to offer and is better. i could be wrong maybe conan will suck and warhammer will rule. but until the games come out it sounds like age of conan is the better game unless your a huge warhammer fan.
Your calling me ignorant yet your basing "BEST GRAPHICS" simply on the fact that AoC is using DX10?
I still dont think AOC wins "HANDS DOWN" over WAR. To each his own really.
Some people like the realistic look, some people like the more fantasy/cartoony look.
fantasy does not equal cartoony...cartoony is just cartoony which is what warhammer and wow is...
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense.
So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU.
That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
didn't you answer the exact same thing previously? you don't need to do that cause I read the whole thread...lol...I was refering to you equating fantasy to cartoon look...I just saw you nitpicking other ppl so I just nitpicked at you...lol
Originally posted by maguskwt Originally posted by logangregor
Originally posted by maguskwt Your calling me ignorant yet your basing "BEST GRAPHICS" simply on the fact that AoC is using DX10? I still dont think AOC wins "HANDS DOWN" over WAR. To each his own really. Some people like the realistic look, some people like the more fantasy/cartoony look.
fantasy does not equal cartoony...cartoony is just cartoony which is what warhammer and wow is...
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense. So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU. That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
didn't you answer the exact same thing previously? you don't need to do that cause I read the whole thread...lol...I was refering to you equating fantasy to cartoon look...I just saw you nitpicking other ppl so I just nitpicked at you...lol
its much too late in the evening to be arguing with someone about something so trivial but I will do my best to be civil nonetheless. I was under the impression that you didnt read what I wrote.
But anyways.... dx10 doesnt equal great graphics great graphics dont make a game
You really dont have a leg to stand on if you decide to pick on the graphics of WAR. Lol..they look like Warhammer. Would you say, "damn I just dont like that Ferrari cause it looks way to Sports Car-ish?" See my point?
Anyways this is me waving the white flag. Best wishes towards AOC
I would deffinitly pick Age of Conan. Warhammer equals a better WoW. Age of Conan will accualy involve different things that mmorpg's have never had. There are VERY high hopes for Age of Conan im my opinion.
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because of the RvR system that looks awesome.
As for "what game will be better" only time will tell. There's no need arguing about graphics and such. Who cares if the mmorpgs that you aren't playing are doing fine, as long as you have fun playing yours that's all that matters.
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Never give up and never surrender!
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense.
So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU.
That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
I m hoping i m wrong and AoC will be a great game ( i ll try it anyways) but so far its just look to me like a showroom for direct10 possibilities and all those very nice grafics wont be available for most of the players due to the very high requirements. As for the content itself i reserve my judgment knowing the passd experience in MMO engine coding from FUNCOM. (bad engines, crowcontrol system awfull, pvp unplayable when more than 15 players in same area, various bugs unfixed etc etc)
Warhammer have a good potential and is based on a solid Licence... most of the times i dont trust on those licences cuz we all know how bad they usually are used.. but this time its MITHYC, with a solid MMO experience on pvp ( RVR on that case) , DAOC still have one of the best pvp system i played ( despite all balance issues).We cant argue about grafics here... again its a Licence 25 years old, and one cannot expect anything else than what it offers the grafics represent the game itself as it is know by its millions of fans and it cant possibly be otherwize ( just like the cartoony grafic of WoW represent wel the RTS the MMO is coming from).
Overall both are very promising and i ll try both, but my best bet goes for Warhmmer at this stade of devellopement f both games..
Why commit yourself to one, at this time, considering the quality of one of the more recent releases, I will wait and pick the best. After all I, used to play the Pen and Paper Warhammer RPG, and I know the world very well. Someone made a comment in one of the pod casts that MMORPGs “are a commitment” and I choose to be wary in my commitments. Licensing games are generally lacking in some aspects, either in support or ingenuity after all they have to pay for the licensing fee some how, but LOTR is the first I have seen that does not suffer, as compared to Star Wars Galaxies, so I will see. Between, Conan and GW’s Warhammer, Game Workshop is notoriously money grubbing in miniatures game pricing and Licensing, after all it a publicly held game company, so I will see where they create the extra revenue.
Well I'll just like to add I have already been stabbed in the back by Funcom before when I played Anarchy Online. I know what they are capable off. So I think I'll let Mythic have a go this time, hopfully they put the dagger in while im asleep or something.
Also when I look at the two development teams there is no comparision. The WAR team is like a open book on a table with a story that is fun to read. They just seem to be a great group of people and people that you cannot help but to cheer for. While the AOC team is like that old man who sits at the back of his study and stares down anyone who dares to open the door.
AOC development teams seems to want to make sure they release bits of info piece by piece at a nice and controlled rate, while the WAR people make you feel apart of what they are doing. Bottom line is AOC is taking the every other MMORPG to dates approach to MMORPG development while WAR is taking a page from WOW.
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You see, every mammal on this planet instinctively develops a natural equilibrium with their surrounding environment, but you humans do not. You spread to an area, and you multiply, and you multiply, until every natural resource is consumed. The only way you can survive is to spread to another area. There is another organism on this planet that follows the same pattern. Do you know what it is? A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet.-Mr.Smith
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense.
So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU.
That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
You sir are a true tool!
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense.
So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU.
That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
You sir are a true tool!
I love you too!!
Each offers something interresting, that i need to test out ingame wether works or not. Graphics are relatively unrelevant, as eyecandy is only really interresting for the first month. Then the novelty kinda drives off, and you start being used to anything, even subpar graphics.
Anyway, no doubt there will be a consumer battle between AoC and WAR, but i'm pretty sure they both will have an healthy playerbase(I'd like to imagine around 1 million for each).
very informative. you sure know how to make a point
NOT.
i for one am not impressed with AoC, the combat looks LAME, slow swings that look awkward. not really my cup of tea, as for the said "features" that the above poster has pointed out, i havent heard anything about them. so i dont really know what he is talking about. WAR is made by my favorite MMO company of all time ive played their game for years, loved the pvp. i think they have the next great game on their hands. anyone who is calling it a wow clone is simply retarded.
"If you can only feel safe when everybody else feels, thinks and looks the same as you, then you're a Hood-damned coward...not to mention a vicious tyrant in the making." -Scillara
And more content =!= Better game. Quantity doesn't always conqure quality. I'm not saying that AoC will have badly made content, but it would be stupid to judge two games that way.
very informative. you sure know how to make a point
NOT.
i for one am not impressed with AoC, the combat looks LAME, slow swings that look awkward. not really my cup of tea, as for the said "features" that the above poster has pointed out, i havent heard anything about them. so i dont really know what he is talking about. WAR is made by my favorite MMO company of all time ive played their game for years, loved the pvp. i think they have the next great game on their hands. anyone who is calling it a wow clone is simply retarded.
Wow, you sure know how to make a point as well huh? I can do the same thing. AoC is made by my favorite MMO company of all time, considering I started MMO with Anarchy Online. I think they have the next great game on their hands (Although I will try out WAR as well, I don't hate it, I just don't like WAR fanboi's coming to an AOC, yes AOC board, calling the game they don't want competing with WAR lame when they haven't even done research or if it isn't their cup of tea. You are the ones who are LAME) /end rant
tough call honestly. Funcom has one of the best character development systems ever mmo or rpg in anarchy online. They have one of the best customer service providers for any multyplayer game. Mythic lacks a bit with customer service yet they have a highly pvp intensive title with DAOC. you expereience next to no lag storming a keep with 60 people whereas anarchy online you can lag off the edge of a cliff if a butterfly sneezes 6 million miles away.
I need to see both games perform online before I can truly make a decision. Fun is the most important factor, but if I experience anarchy online lag playing conan I doubt I'll continue to give funcom money. I know there wont be that type of issue with a mythic product
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense.
So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU.
That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
didn't you answer the exact same thing previously? you don't need to do that cause I read the whole thread...lol...I was refering to you equating fantasy to cartoon look...I just saw you nitpicking other ppl so I just nitpicked at you...lol
WAR is based on WARHAMMER. NO MATTER how good the graphics "CAN" ultimately be, they will still be based off of WARHAMMER painted miniatures. WARHAMMER models are cartoony in a sense.
So if you dont like cartoony, the graphics of WARHAMMER will never be good enough FOR YOU.
That doesnt mean there bad though or even worse than AOC. If they got super realistic looking graphics it wouldnt be Warhammer any longer and original fans would be severely disappointed.
Go post on the Warhammer forum and ask how happy all the Warhammer fans are about the current state of graphics. From what Ive read, they couldnt be happier.
didn't you answer the exact same thing previously? you don't need to do that cause I read the whole thread...lol...I was refering to you equating fantasy to cartoon look...I just saw you nitpicking other ppl so I just nitpicked at you...lol
its much too late in the evening to be arguing with someone about something so trivial but I will do my best to be civil nonetheless. I was under the impression that you didnt read what I wrote.
But anyways....
dx10 doesnt equal great graphics
great graphics dont make a game
You really dont have a leg to stand on if you decide to pick on the graphics of WAR.
Lol..they look like Warhammer. Would you say, "damn I just dont like that Ferrari cause it looks way to Sports Car-ish?" See my point?
Anyways this is me waving the white flag. Best wishes towards AOC