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Returned to play after almost 3 years..

I today decided to return to SWG.. and am both frightened and confused. Here is the game I remembered playing for about 6months, starting in summer 2003..



Day 1; I am so so lost. This world is huge. I had to run away screaming because a mob just handed me my ass. I am so poor. I dont know where the nearest city is. My friends have had the game for about 4 days now, and have been 20minutes running towards me. Maybe they're lost. I have no idea what this gunk is that I got from some mob, but its probably useful for something.



10 minutes later; This is fantastic. Im still hopelessly confused, but my friend has a campfire going, and his girlfriend is cooking something. I think. Oh hey, she made me something to drink!



2 hours later; Cantina. This place is bustling with life, singers, dancers, and everyone's social! And apparently we're all going to some god unknown planet together to blow things up, get skill points, and talk about how much we want to be a jedi someday.



Day 7; I can make fireworks! And the whole damn planet know it. The whole sky is alight, and Im poor, but at least the company is great.



Week 3; I've finally got the money to afford wind farms, and some oil drills. Bring on the money!



Week 4; Get rich scheme didnt really work out too well - still flat broke. But the weaponsmithing career seems to be going fairly well.



Month 2; Alright, becoming a weaponsmith is the longest thing in the world to do, but damn, it'll be worth it when I reach the top. And I can actually hurt things now that I have stormtroopers following me around. And I've a house! Its in the middle of nowhere, but still, Im actually making some money for custom-order weapons



Month 3; When I was told "we're raiding a rebel city", I in no way thought this meant "You better not be planning on sleeping tonight buddy." I think we spent about 3 hours in a massive group, taking on another massive group. I was half expecting to see some jedi walk through the crowd and throw us all apart, but I still havent seen one of those yet. Oh, and my friends are blind stinking rich from having one of the first and best armoursmith/clothier places on the planet.



Month 5; Im a proper weaponsmith, and am actually making money! Very handy, as my holosphere thing said that weaponsmithing was one of my force-sensitive slots. Only 3 more to go! Still havent seen any jedi yet, mind. And I'd probably be a weaponsmith a lot quicker if I didnt spend half my time being a socialite. Oh well. And the groups I travel with are fantastic now - huge 5-star campsites, great meals, music and dancing throughout the night. Fantastic.



Month 5.5; Wow. I am failing every subject in school ever. I better stop playing for a while. Shame I never saw a jedi.









I returned recently, and..well, to sum up;



Day 1; Ok, here we go again... Jedi? Sure, why not.. Ok... that died quickly..and..so did that...



2 Hours later; This city is deserted. And I am rich. Why?



Day 2; Why have I so much money? And where is there nobody around at all? Why havent I seen music and dancing yet?



Day 2.5; I have died so many times. Why am I not in a sick bay, talking with the medics? Why am I not wounded at all?



Day 3; Hey, a pvp battle. And its...oh look...everyones a Jedi...and..are.. all.. 12years old..



Day 3.5 Lets see, time to choose professions..wait, what? Alright, Im done.







..What in the hell happened?

Comments

  • DarkstryderDarkstryder Member Posts: 207
    Originally posted by EoghanH





    ..What in the hell happened?



    You may think it sucks now, but atleast its "starwarsy" and "iconic". Thats the main thing right?

  • EoghanHEoghanH Member Posts: 4
    I dont think everyone in the world of starwars was a Jedi.
  • DarkstryderDarkstryder Member Posts: 207
    Originally posted by EoghanH

    I dont think everyone in the world of starwars was a Jedi.

     

    Try telling that to $OE.

  • EoghanHEoghanH Member Posts: 4
    Oh yeah, what was that Han Solo crap about? I dont remember him being the type to run around saving the universe person by person.
  • dirtyd77dirtyd77 Member UncommonPosts: 383
    Originally posted by EoghanH

    I today decided to return to SWG.. and am both frightened and confused. Here is the game I remembered playing for about 6months, starting in summer 2003..



    Day 1; I am so so lost. This world is huge. I had to run away screaming because a mob just handed me my ass. I am so poor. I dont know where the nearest city is. My friends have had the game for about 4 days now, and have been 20minutes running towards me. Maybe they're lost. I have no idea what this gunk is that I got from some mob, but its probably useful for something.



    10 minutes later; This is fantastic. Im still hopelessly confused, but my friend has a campfire going, and his girlfriend is cooking something. I think. Oh hey, she made me something to drink!



    2 hours later; Cantina. This place is bustling with life, singers, dancers, and everyone's social! And apparently we're all going to some god unknown planet together to blow things up, get skill points, and talk about how much we want to be a jedi someday.



    Day 7; I can make fireworks! And the whole damn planet know it. The whole sky is alight, and Im poor, but at least the company is great.



    Week 3; I've finally got the money to afford wind farms, and some oil drills. Bring on the money!



    Week 4; Get rich scheme didnt really work out too well - still flat broke. But the weaponsmithing career seems to be going fairly well.



    Month 2; Alright, becoming a weaponsmith is the longest thing in the world to do, but damn, it'll be worth it when I reach the top. And I can actually hurt things now that I have stormtroopers following me around. And I've a house! Its in the middle of nowhere, but still, Im actually making some money for custom-order weapons



    Month 3; When I was told "we're raiding a rebel city", I in no way thought this meant "You better not be planning on sleeping tonight buddy." I think we spent about 3 hours in a massive group, taking on another massive group. I was half expecting to see some jedi walk through the crowd and throw us all apart, but I still havent seen one of those yet. Oh, and my friends are blind stinking rich from having one of the first and best armoursmith/clothier places on the planet.



    Month 5; Im a proper weaponsmith, and am actually making money! Very handy, as my holosphere thing said that weaponsmithing was one of my force-sensitive slots. Only 3 more to go! Still havent seen any jedi yet, mind. And I'd probably be a weaponsmith a lot quicker if I didnt spend half my time being a socialite. Oh well. And the groups I travel with are fantastic now - huge 5-star campsites, great meals, music and dancing throughout the night. Fantastic.



    Month 5.5; Wow. I am failing every subject in school ever. I better stop playing for a while. Shame I never saw a jedi.









    I returned recently, and..well, to sum up;



    Day 1; Ok, here we go again... Jedi? Sure, why not.. Ok... that died quickly..and..so did that...



    2 Hours later; This city is deserted. And I am rich. Why?



    Day 2; Why have I so much money? And where is there nobody around at all? Why havent I seen music and dancing yet?



    Day 2.5; I have died so many times. Why am I not in a sick bay, talking with the medics? Why am I not wounded at all?



    Day 3; Hey, a pvp battle. And its...oh look...everyones a Jedi...and..are.. all.. 12years old..



    Day 3.5 Lets see, time to choose professions..wait, what? Alright, Im done.







    ..What in the hell happened?
    LOL boy I could see that NGE bashing coming from a mile away....
  • elzilcho21elzilcho21 Member Posts: 47
    Let me fill you in on what happened, Our Cheery life of Dancers and Doctor buffs and crafters disappeared after the CU Or better known as the Combat Upgrade (AKA: SWG'S DEATH) There they implemented levels instead of the regular way of leveling. The boxes still exsisted but each paticular box gave you 1 skill instead of many that you could choose from. Later on they made the NGE and the boxes disappeared completly and now you have tiers and a completly new game! Entertainers are useless everyone except the few veterans that play that arn't  veteran Jedi's play Bounty Hunters or Play Domestic Traders and sell houses. *shrugs* life is gone in that game.

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  • severiusseverius Member UncommonPosts: 1,516
    I truely am sorry you went back to SWG.  Your first few months ring very true to the majority of true SWG vets and why so many are pissed off at SOE for the NGE etc.  My honest opinion is this:  Save your memories, those are likely to be the last real good ones of SWG you can possibly have.  Leave the game now but do not uninstall it.  If you head to a site like... oh i dunno... sunrunnerveterans.com etc you may find that the original experience may return in one form or another.
  • RekrulRekrul Member Posts: 2,961




    The OP isn't disapointed, and has nothing bad to say over NGE. As it happens, the OP didn't make this thread, and this thread doesn't even exist.



    As everyone knows, SWG has received incredible ammount if improvements, and the game is getting better by the day.
  • suskesuske Member Posts: 714
    wow has set mmo gaming back 10 years... but do not fear! devs like raph koster and lee hammock are trying to make games for people who's minds havent been completly destroyed by crappy games!
  • iskareotiskareot Member Posts: 2,143
    Originally posted by EoghanH

    I dont think everyone in the world of starwars was a Jedi.



    lol and so now another person sees the light.

    This is why I am amazed that anyone is still in the game that is over the age of 12.

    (But yeah man, welcome to the fold and the reason 300k people left and it's down to 10k and server merger talks)... so yeah...

    ______________________________
    I usually picture the Career builder commercial with the room full of monkeys and upside down sales chart when thinking about the SOE/SWG decision making process.....
    SOE's John Blakely and Todd Fiala issued a warning: "Don't make our mistakes." Ref NGE
    Winner of the worst MMOS goes to.... the NGE and SWG..!!! http://www.mmorpg.com/showFeature.cfm?loadFeature=1034&bhcp=1

  • GenwaGenwa Member Posts: 156
    Originally posted by EoghanH

    I dont think everyone in the world of starwars was a Jedi.
    Episode 3.



    Every kid in the movie is jedi in the temple. SOE saw them and wanted something like that.



    It's Star Warsy, but not fun.
  • EoghanHEoghanH Member Posts: 4
    Sorry if I push any buttons, but starwarsy for me was owning some crappy weapon store in the middle of nowhere and barely making ends meet - and spending most of my time and money in cantina's.



    Not everyone has to be,or wants to be a hero.

    And those that do want to become a hero should damn well work for it.
  • TillerTiller Member LegendaryPosts: 11,489
    Best thread yet
    SWG Bloodfin vet
    Elder Jedi/Elder Bounty Hunter
     
  • ungahungah Member Posts: 20
    Originally posted by Rekrul





    The OP isn't disapointed, and has nothing bad to say over NGE. As it happens, the OP didn't make this thread, and this thread doesn't even exist.



    As everyone knows, SWG has received incredible ammount if improvements, and the game is getting better by the day.







    LOL. funniest post ive read in awhile. thx.
  • herculeshercules Member UncommonPosts: 4,925

    I too miss those early days.Sure the game was buggy as hell but just popping into the catina was worth an hr play easy.

    The game was much more then your class or been a jedi.It was a good attempt at a simulation of Star wars.

    Why the game became all about jedi is something between the jedi wannabies and SoE.Many of us just loved existing in a virtual world of star wars.

  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    I have returned to, and i feel crazy

    Problem all my old SWG friends are also comming back, and they will do anything to have me staying.

    I can really honest say I hate the game....but i have no other to play

     

  • NeuroXlNeuroXl Member Posts: 291
    Originally posted by daarco


    I have returned to, and i feel crazy
    Problem all my old SWG friends are also comming back, and they will do anything to have me staying.
    I can really honest say I hate the game....but i have no other to play
     



    So your going to play because your friends are? what kind of Logic is that?

    Would you eat salted razorblades just because your friends were too?

  • LordCaptainLordCaptain Member Posts: 178
    Originally posted by NeuroXl

    Originally posted by daarco


    I have returned to, and i feel crazy
    Problem all my old SWG friends are also comming back, and they will do anything to have me staying.
    I can really honest say I hate the game....but i have no other to play
     



    So your going to play because your friends are? what kind of Logic is that?

    Would you eat salted razorblades just because your friends were too?

    Fun comes from playing with friends. I NEVER play Guild Wars unless my buddies are. I hate the damn game. Same with Titan's Quest. However, when I log on and my clan all says "Hey! We are all in Titan's Quest. Come on in." I do, and I have tons of fun.



    It's the people that make or break the game for me. When playing with friends, it makes it bearable :P



    So yes, if eating Salted Raxer Blades was fun because of my friends, I would do it.
  • daarcodaarco Member UncommonPosts: 4,276

    Its the friends that matters....in this case

    My MMO situation is so bad i would begin to play Vanguard right away if my friends begun playing....

    Sinse NGE I have been like a vampire looking for a prey (LOL)....and now i play Voyage Century Online and WW2 Online.....and SWG, where i have to sit for minutes and look at the launchpad before i dare to login

  • broundingbrounding Member Posts: 63
    Ahhh SWG. I can tell you a very similar story.  I remember when SWG was released.  I bought two copies of the game.  One for me, and one for my wife.  We started off playing on Tat and every city was packed with people.  I wasted a lot of credits learning new skills and then found out later that other players can teach them!!! I started down the path to be a bounty hunter/carbineer because it sounded cool and i was having fun with carbines. After a month or so I decided to purchase a third copy of the game. Why? Well because I wanted a crafter/trader type character too.  After a week I Bought a fourth copy of the game. Why? (All you married gamers already know the answer) That's right, my wife wanted a second character too. We start a company in the game called Taren Industries (our characters last names were Taren). We had a few houses on Tat and enjoyed taking journeys out to Dantooine and exploring old ruined buildings and finding force-sensitive creatures. Then began the journey of becoming a Jedi.  My wife was not as crazy as I was to want to unlock my force sensitivity.  I did the few quests that were "rumored" to open the path to jedi.  Then the holocron craze began (for those of you reading this that do not know what the holocron craze was, it basically was the time when holocrons would tell you a profession you had to master in order to get closer to unlocking your jedi, rumor was that there were three or four hidden classes per character that once you mastered them it would unlock your jedi. I got my hands on two holocrons. The first one said become a master armorsmith.  I grinded it out. I admit, it was fun and i was definitely driven to get it done so i could use my second holocron. I finished mastering armorsmith and used the second holocron.  It said, master musician. Wow, what an easy one to do i thought. It took some time but I mastered it. At this point I had mastered the following professions: Scout, Marksman, Artisan, Armorsmith. Since I did not have any other holocrons I decided to start crunching out other professions and hope for the best. I went on to master the following: Medic, Doctor, Entertainer, Dancer, Image Designer, Brawler, Fencer, Swordsman, Merchant, and i think there was one more in there.  Eventually my wife and I had to quit.  The game was taking too much out of us.  I had 4 characters worth of buildings and harvestors that I kept rotating and updating etc. It was like a full time job moving harvestors (about 30 harvestors) from planet to planet and scoping out new locations for rare minerals/liquids/etc. So we retired from the game.



    A while later (unsure as to how much time has passed) I decide to reactivate my account, I read something about a new path to becoming jedi and quests to do it. I was excited.  I Might finally be able to play a Jedi in SWG! Well somehow i lost interest or something and quit again.



    A while later (yes, again..) I reactivated my account again, and WTF?!?! I can start as a Jedi? COOL! So i give it a try. Cities are empty, nobody plays traders, everyone that plays is either a bounty hunter or a Jedi. I quit within a day.



    I have not touched it since.



    The problem I have is this:  When I first started grinding out to unlock my Jedi, I wanted to seriously RP a Jedi hidden (since, in this time period jedi were hunted and killed etc..) I wanted to setup a player house out on Dantooine and teach young padawans and enjoy the SWG universe.  But it seemed like SOE or whoever, decided that those to become Jedi would have to be hardcore powergamers (now granted I consider myself a powergamer, but i wasnt depriving myself of sleep for weeks at a time to play).



    Every once and a while I do a google search on SWG to see if something new has changed. I would reactivate in a heartbeat if it meant starting over back at how it was on release, man... i get tingles just thinking about those times.
  • ZyybZyyb Member Posts: 6

    To the Author above me and the first author, you're both so right. It sort of sums up my most awesome of leaving posts on the main forum, which got deleted, it was good, but i never copied it! i remember this bit though..



    Remember the tag line for the game you bought?



    The Greatest Star Wars Saga ever told. Yours.



    Mine? I never wanted to be a jedi, i just wanted to live in the world, i ended up being a 12pt architect and top class pistoleer/rifleman/medic. We all had speeders and droids and banthas, we watched the 2 suns set on tatooine while it played the music i loved so much. I collected art, had one of the best/most beautiful designed cities in the game.



    They they screwed it up as mentioned above and took it all away, made everyone a jedi, made it point and click, RUINED IT.



    I loved the idea of the Emu, but without official servers, i'm just not sure i can trust it? What happens when the servers boss lets his mates become jedis, what if theirs so many small servers the population is nothing compared to what it used to be?



    It's never coming back. :-(

    The Number 1 Reason for the Success of the Internet

  • broundingbrounding Member Posts: 63
    Indeed, I miss the old school SWG.  What they should have done is say if you want to FPS a Jedi go play a different game like jedi academy, jedi knight, Knights of the old republic 1|2, etc..  If you want to RP in the Star Wars universe, then SWG is for you!  Or maybe even offer a few RP servers that were not forced to go through the combat upgrade amd they could watch as masses moved to those specific servers, then maybe they would have gotten a clue about signing their own pink slip.
  • LovrNoFightrLovrNoFightr Member Posts: 218
    Originally posted by EoghanH

    I today decided to return to SWG.. and am both frightened and confused. Here is the game I remembered playing for about 6months, starting in summer 2003..



    Day 1; I am so so lost. This world is huge. I had to run away screaming because a mob just handed me my ass. I am so poor. I dont know where the nearest city is. My friends have had the game for about 4 days now, and have been 20minutes running towards me. Maybe they're lost. I have no idea what this gunk is that I got from some mob, but its probably useful for something.



    10 minutes later; This is fantastic. Im still hopelessly confused, but my friend has a campfire going, and his girlfriend is cooking something. I think. Oh hey, she made me something to drink!



    2 hours later; Cantina. This place is bustling with life, singers, dancers, and everyone's social! And apparently we're all going to some god unknown planet together to blow things up, get skill points, and talk about how much we want to be a jedi someday.



    Day 7; I can make fireworks! And the whole damn planet know it. The whole sky is alight, and Im poor, but at least the company is great.



    Week 3; I've finally got the money to afford wind farms, and some oil drills. Bring on the money!



    Week 4; Get rich scheme didnt really work out too well - still flat broke. But the weaponsmithing career seems to be going fairly well.



    Month 2; Alright, becoming a weaponsmith is the longest thing in the world to do, but damn, it'll be worth it when I reach the top. And I can actually hurt things now that I have stormtroopers following me around. And I've a house! Its in the middle of nowhere, but still, Im actually making some money for custom-order weapons



    Month 3; When I was told "we're raiding a rebel city", I in no way thought this meant "You better not be planning on sleeping tonight buddy." I think we spent about 3 hours in a massive group, taking on another massive group. I was half expecting to see some jedi walk through the crowd and throw us all apart, but I still havent seen one of those yet. Oh, and my friends are blind stinking rich from having one of the first and best armoursmith/clothier places on the planet.



    Month 5; Im a proper weaponsmith, and am actually making money! Very handy, as my holosphere thing said that weaponsmithing was one of my force-sensitive slots. Only 3 more to go! Still havent seen any jedi yet, mind. And I'd probably be a weaponsmith a lot quicker if I didnt spend half my time being a socialite. Oh well. And the groups I travel with are fantastic now - huge 5-star campsites, great meals, music and dancing throughout the night. Fantastic.



    Month 5.5; Wow. I am failing every subject in school ever. I better stop playing for a while. Shame I never saw a jedi.









    I returned recently, and..well, to sum up;



    Day 1; Ok, here we go again... Jedi? Sure, why not.. Ok... that died quickly..and..so did that...



    2 Hours later; This city is deserted. And I am rich. Why?



    Day 2; Why have I so much money? And where is there nobody around at all? Why havent I seen music and dancing yet?



    Day 2.5; I have died so many times. Why am I not in a sick bay, talking with the medics? Why am I not wounded at all?



    Day 3; Hey, a pvp battle. And its...oh look...everyones a Jedi...and..are.. all.. 12years old..



    Day 3.5 Lets see, time to choose professions..wait, what? Alright, Im done.







    ..What in the hell happened?



    Some "clever" people suddenly found out that the game you describe having a blast in, was too complex for the average gamer.

    Enters the NGE.

    ********************************
    SWG pre cu - never forgotten.

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