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VG hopefully the last game from Sigil/SOE for now.
tuccos
Member Posts: 36
Why ?? because they lie to you, they promise you the game of the century, they promise you the best and at the end you get some Water and Bread instead of a Huge yummy Steak.
when i saw the 1st announcements about VG some years ago, i thought,, wow some ex-developers from EQ are trying to make their own game without SOE.
i cant tell how many times i felt screwed and cheated by SOE in EQ1, i remember this fat arrogant PR guy Abashi, he behaved like a god or something like that. At the end he pissed of many players and destroyed alot money for his company. He was the 1st bad sign SOE gave me.
in 4 years EQ , SOE did whatever they felt like, nerfs, wrong promises, bugged expansions and and and. their customers stayed loyal and conitnued to pay.
in EQ2 SOE did the same again, suddenly some month after release they changed whole classes free will, weakend the overall player power.
i think i could continue infinite with examples about how SOE treats their milk cows.
I was following Vanguard since the 1st announcements until today and its honestly sad what the game become. 1st i couldnt wait to get more information about this game, then one day SOE got involved and i got a bad feeling after all my horrible experiences with them.
All my dark visions have become true, the game is a mess, collectors editions buyers got Cheated, the game got rushed out like 99% of all other MMORPG´s to make some early money.
They will always do the same mistakes over and over because they are to greedy, at the end they have a small playerbase and that was it.
I dont wanna say Blizzard is the best ever with WoW, but i think these guys did the best Job on a MMORPG ever, the game runs almost perfect since day 1. Every single patch or update works.
If Blizzard would make a game like Vanguard then i had hope in it, but not SIGIL/SOE..
(no native english,dont blame me for it)
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Hopefully this is the last post by Tuccos instead
I wonder if he tried it, or if he is just flaming basing himself on earsay
also he says his dark vision of the game came true but he doesnt stat what is wrong with the game? ... oh well i guess it was just some random flaming..
Must... resist.... replying.... but... cant....
Is your anger towards Sigil or SOE? Soe merely printed the game and put it on their servers, they have no involvement with the development at all, as you would know had you followed it for years as stated.
EQ2 is a great game for many people. The class revamp some 2 YEARS ago actually improved the overall gameplay experience for almost everyone who stuck with it, and most did, the expansions have been very well recieved, and the developers communicate daily with the players, and actually listen to them. Plus the graphics are still way above most other games (if you have a decent PC).
EQ has been around longer than any other game. SOE could have scrapped it, but instead stayed loyal to the fans and continue to develop it and make expansions for it.
Matrix Online was about to go completely bust, then SOE stepped in and saved it for the few fans, despite making no real profit from it.
Planetside, which rightfully should have been scrapped long long ago due to dwindling numbers, is still very much supported, again, with no real profit being generated by it.
Starwars galaxies was the only game they completely screwed up, and that was done with a combination of an awful development team and LucasArts. That team is not connected in anyway at all to any of the other games, except by the name Sony. And for some weird reason I cant explain, those who play it now seem to actually enjoy it.
Gods and Heroes is the latest MMO which SOE are PUBLISHING, and again, they have zero control over development.
And.. on top of all this, this vast money grabbing company, who could rightfully charge you $14 PER game, also offers to let you have all of them for $29. Which saves the avid gamer $69 per month.
Yes, SOE really do suck.
(and no, im not a fanboi, im just realistic, I too was let down by Vanguard, I was devastated by SWG, but compared to other MMO publishers and developers, SOE are the lesser of many evils and have shown time and again a commitment to the MMO genre).
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
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I have to agree with the OP. A lot of us, and me included, have been left with a bad taste in our mouth because of $OE and its practices. And well, Vanguard is just another example of the craptastic things $OE does with the games they produce/service/host whatever... I'm not going to get into an argument that $OE has sway/no sway with Sigil and therefore Vanguard.
You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time.Abraham Lincoln (1809 - 1865), (attributed)
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Final Fantasy 7
As far as the number of mmo's sony is number one, but even i will say they aren't number one as far as sub numbers go. They took a huge hit with the swg/nge disaster but the new team running swg seems to be trying to add some of the pre-nge features back in. I actually went back to swg when i take a break from vg and am actually enjoying swg again for some odd reason. I seem to see a bit more people around then a few months ago. Yet another game that according to the elder swg players said would be closed down by now. Life support seems to be working for that game right now. it's not brain dead, but it's in a coma state at the moment. Could go either way on swg right now but it does seem the new devs are trying to correct some of the past mistakes. It's still no where near like it once was those
As far as the number of mmo's sony is number one, but even i will say they aren't number one as far as sub numbers go. They took a huge hit with the swg/nge disaster but the new team running swg seems to be trying to add some of the pre-nge features back in. I actually went back to swg when i take a break from vg and am actually enjoying swg again for some odd reason. I seem to see a bit more people around then a few months ago. Yet another game that according to the elder swg players said would be closed down by now. Life support seems to be working for that game right now. it's not brain dead, but it's in a coma state at the moment. Could go either way on swg right now but it does seem the new devs are trying to correct some of the past mistakes. It's still no where near like it once was those
I think their being sarcastic, at least I think Aurelyn is. But as for as SWG-NGE it's horrible, from the UI to them adding stuff back in that never should have been taken out in the first place. Think about it, they completly changed the game mechanics, then start putting things in that they said weren't iconic enough or were to broken to fix. They say they can't turn back or commit some servers to PRECU or CU, but slowly their adding back old stuff. The game is still as buggy and lagtastic as ever. I'v given up on SWG in it's current form, sad because it use to be the shit.Rebel Col. Moshi Manawitz-Master Commando/Master Smuggler/Master Pilot-Pre NGE Vet.-Server:Chilistra-
RIP April 04-Jan 06
Those people that are defending here are the usual payed or clueless fanbois that play their 1st mmorpg in their lifes anyway. i dont care about these persons.
The people here that started playing EQ in 1999 should understand what i mean. Brad is the main reason for this mess, i said in earlier posts that its better he doesnt get involved to this project. It happend again, i just hope that the mmorpg industry finally see that this guy has good ideas and maybe is a talent in selling himself, but if he gets involved to a project then it goes down the road.
Brad´s long letter is an empty package of pointless words that mean just one thing "we´ve lost so many people in the 1st free month, and we have no clue why"
Now and in Future i wont touch any game with either SOE or Brad Smadley working on it.
p.s How many persons here are hired by SOE to post positive things about this game ? I think SOE does pay people to do that. I hope they feel ashamed by telling honest people here crap, to make them pay for the game.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
If Brad and his team makes another MMO from Sigil, I will probably watch it very closely and will end up playing it more than likely. Brad has always looked, sounded and wrote like a person quite capable, knowledgable and in his right mind in the industry. I know, it makes all the more a complicated puzzle how VG ever ended up this way coming from such a guy.
But I believe that Brad will learn a lot from this ever growing disaster and will be very careful not to make the same mistakes. I am sure he will realize that this is no longer the past century and games and the gaming world have been evolving, not devolving. There is nothing like learning by painful experience.
While I will keep staying away from VG like plague, I will look forward to his next production, be it 5 years from now or 10.
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