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Want to know why i'm enjoying Vanguard
Thony
Member Posts: 215
Long read yes, but only read it if you really intrested in what i have to say/write, Nobody has to read it and remember i'm not a staff writter but that is very abvious when you read what i wrote and how i wrote, sorry for the people that find this to much to read, just don't read it 
Let me tell you again, this isn't my work, i do not get paid to do this so if you don't like my written style just do not read it, but like i said in other post i think making choices has skipped a generation aswell some people even from my generation. Now if i really would write this way in my own langauge i do not think i would have had 17 people working for me and 2 rather succesfull recruitment agency's. What i did here is expressing myself in a not native langauge to me, fail to respect that, then probebly you will fail in life cause that's all it takes, to respect others when people are being honost.
I myself tend to be more the RP/Adventurer/Crafter, though I fully admit Vanguard at this point does lack some of the essential RP elements, the way one communicates (emo)with eachother is abit stiff, and then there is this very detailed world including in-house furniture which unfortunaly is pure eye-candy at the moment. (not gamebreaking yet might become if not something done to it), Crafting is also something I really enjoy but I know it can become some what of a grind at this moment when people already in their higher level’s, now surely I don’t like using the word grind as it’s almost none existing for me as I try to life the live of my character in this case in the world of Telon. But from what I read from people and talked with in game that are just like me enjoying crafting and sort of having a passion for crafting that at the later level’s it does become that what I don’t want it to be..”that grind” I experienced several bugs mainly before the first smaller patch like crafting quest not working correctly or updating which as far I can tell are fully fixed at this moment, before the BIG patch had some trouble with some tools not showing-up in the crafting process, would be bad afcourse for someone at the higher level’s making higher level stuff, but at the lower level’s not much to really worry about and still I keep in mind where just in it’s second month so why rush, why rush overall in game? Afcourse if it doesn’t change and remains at those higher level’s that “grind” I might just not go for it all the way intended and find other things in Vanguard because for the Adventuring part I’m very pleased with Vanguard, I do need to feel progress in my character but I have no need to end-game ASAP so for me hitting level 30/40/50 or whatever level might be in 4 months, a year, for me that doesn’t matter anymore as long afcourse I’m enjoying myself till then I don’t feel any time pressure. The scenery in Vanguard is just breathtaking in some area’s and even the barren places when you look in the distance you have mountain ranges that triggers my curiosity of just want to know what’s behind that mountain or top of that mountain, regardless that I see it’s a freaking long way to get there, boring to get there, not really, harvesting makes it interesting to travel and under way grab some creatures/NPC/s quest’s to maintain my overall skills.
When adventuring sometimes hook-up with people already met, friends unfortunaly some not able (system requirements) and some not willing to play V:SoH (not willing some don’t like mmorpg, and some wanted and played but didn’t like it) Well basically to many friends that actually hate pc games in general :P but that’s not what I’m talking about J, To continue I also like to help out when seeing someone in trouble, and maybe a little strange but I always try to buff people when they cross my path even sometimes when seeing a class I think might need a buff or 2 I head over to them if not in my path but in my sight and buff J, group quests are fun and have had the pleasure to be in some very mature groups (22.00/01.00h. most preferred and enjoyable hours to play for me, at least for the grouping part. Overall i enjoy the quest's. I like to go of and discover different places, harv. things needed for my crafting profession under way. I can easily harv a whole gaming session which can be 1/3hours on a day, some might think BORING, I only think “where the hell do I put all my resources”J. I do have multiple character’s all share the same last name so feel they can be identified as sort of speak in game family members (uhuh.. Troll, Gnome, Human, DarkElf….. Family? well let’s face it we are playing “fantasy” hereJ.
Not about to take all my character thru all 3 spheres, have my crafting skills spread out among them but mainly to get a taste of what it is I might pursue after lvl10 crafter, so far highest crafter of the bunch is an lvl.8 outfitter. As I said I do want to feel progress in a game, but I don’t keep a close enough look at my stats to really notice most changes done as in numbers like X damage was 6.001 and now it 6.005, this afcourse does not mean I do not notice them when using them, but by using them you get to know your ability don’t need the numbers for that, just like in rl when I fight, I fight with my ability, I do not fight and say wait I need to see what your strength is and mine before we can start. Afcourse I’m well aware when change is coming as in patch/update’s notes, take a test-drive (sort of speak) with my skills in game to see if I need to re-do some of the tactics. Mostly doesn’t take long to simply adjust. Remember pre-cu SWG and SOE. I learned from that to not put trust in those things like stats as in a blink of a eye that can be taken away, changed or whatever things that can be done to character stats. Technical details only got me pissed/mad when something happened to it in the past. Thought to myself am I creating the game or am I just playing it to enjoy myself? If not enjoying time to move one. Since then games became much more enjoyable to me though I had to adjust some of my play style cause I tended to play games like they where competitions but changed that into just relaxing myself, competition is healthy, but job/sports is enough competition for me). Afcourse I have limits to what can be changed in a game which might effect my overall experience in a negative way. But again for the moment mostly because I see that Sigil continues to put effort into it i still have trust it only can get better.
The slower progress after level 12 is noticeable and does take longer and assuming in the 20’s its going to be even slower, for me not that big of a problem but in this case when I look at the bigger picture the slow xp gain can be a offset for allot of people that play this game differently then I play it, The way I would imagine myself being a PvP player this might set me off too.
I stopped playing a computer generated character and started to look at it as if it was me (don’t get me wrong I’m not going KOOKOOJ, it’s the thing I like to call imagination the healthy kind, besides it good for some laughs to actually imagine yourself a Troll, Gnome, Dark Elf).... bit to much fantasy HELL YEAH, that’s kind of the reason why I play fantasy or mmorpg to live that fantasy. Now I would be going KOOKOO when I would start to dress up in rl as a Troll or Gnome, not going to happen J
Visuals in a way became more important to me together with realism of character’s, like for instance when my ranger sees a target/enemy, I want to pull my bow, shoot the arrow and when it hits the target reacts, unfortunaly what happens in Vanguard and really hope this sort of detail is also been addressed in fixing is that when you pull the bow the NPC/creature is already hit and approaching you before the arrow leaves the bow. This is no lag issue, I asked around and already noticed that I do look at different things then some do as most did not notice or did try and experienced the same but never really notice’d.it before, You see exploring is what I like and Vanguard is delivering that to me .As a explorer my Lag meter is pretty low meaning I can not stand much lag in a game so apart from the zone-line’s when exploring the large lands and the crowed city’s it’s not game stopping me. The zone's though not gamebreaking there are at times, annoying I admit especially when your ab/pet/mount/invis/buff or whatever being reset because of the zone-load but for the moment I can handle it, afcourse if this continues to stay like this for months then I will re-consider, but I have learned to be patient with these type of games. Back to what I was saying about lag, when crafting in a craft forum in one of the major city it’s the getting in the first time which is pretty laggy for about 5/15 seconds while you stumble down the hall into the forum but after being there for about 20/30 seconds at least it all runs as smooth as out doors for me. When I speak of real lag issues then it would be the sort of lag that would make me freeze or crash the game lucky enough I have not experienced that. Oh I did crash a few time in beta and a few day’s back but mainly because of me pushing my system a bit hard. But I fully agree overall the engine needs to be optimized as afcourse I want those zone-loads to dis-appear, want to walk without any millisecond of lag thru the Hugh city’s seeing lots of players enjoying themselves without lag talking/walking without the interference of lag which for some seem worse then for others. My biggest dis appointment with Vanguard was the very first time I went in beta, but seeing what they have done over those months has given me confidence that really can’t be to long before most bugs that some might hinder more then other will be fixed.
This is nothing more then my personal experience in how I play and enjoy vanguard, I do see/understand the bugs and some of the other issue's but as I have shown they are not game-breaking in how I play the game. Now for the overall quality of the game it is obvious that not everyone play’s mmorpg like I do so many problems people seem to have are very legit and need to be addressed, I’ll never ignore that, but I do hope it shows that when I speak/write about Vanguard that one might understand why it is why someone can be very positive about the game while some are very negative about the game, maybe I have much more patients when someone is not working for me to allow some mistakes to be made, or maybe I’m just to positive minded when it comes to gaming like I said I do to relaxe J
Oh diplomacy and Lore , Guilds….hmm maybe another time NN
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To the OP if it takes you that many words to describe then I know that you are trying too hard. One "paragraph" will do thanks.
Cal
I think that Vanguard so far is doing a lot of things right. After having made several characters, as I always do played to level 6 at most.
I also tried to get into the diplomacy game. I did not understand much of it at first, only after having played several of the initial diplomacy (tutorial) quest I started to get the hang of it. Reminded me of card games like they had in FF IX and Star Wars :KotOR .
Dark elf potitics were really interesting, full of backstabbing and clever dialogue. The diplomacy trade is really a nice touch to the game, and gives you more to do than only fighting and crafting.
The crafting system was even harder to get into, in my eyes at least. I am used to crafting from Everquest 2, where I really enjoy it. World of Warcraft`s crafting system is a bit to simplistic, and most of the work there is actually to get the ingredients needed.. I am sure many people like how it is done in Vanguard, but I found it hard to get into and tedious and boring when I first started to understand it. I do realize a ship is not made in a day in Vanguard.
I really liked how they made the races different, in strengths and culture. I made it even more interesting to try them all out ( something I have yet to do) The fighting system and progress is not too different from EQ/EQ2 so it is pretty easy for most MMORPG players to get into, although I find the difficulty of Vanguard significantly higher than most other games in the same genre.
A great game, that will get better in time.
I like Vanguard because my friends are currently playing it.. if they weren't I wouldn't be..
"This is not a game to be tossed aside lightly.
It should be thrown with great force"
No sorry m8 you do not want to know why i am enjoying meself else you would have read what i had to say regardless how it is written or how many words i used.
I could have guessed to get reaction like this but what i fail to see is where i have forced anyone to read my post, it's really unbelieveble how some people react to someone expressing himself why he likes a game.
Maybe this time i was abit narrowminded to even think that my post might spark reactions from others to explain why or why not they are enjoying themselfs.
Taken from that little quote thing under the OP's name:
"Its not "HOW" something is written but its "WHAT" someone has written"
Actually HOW you write something matters very much, it makes all the difference between people reading it or not at all. No offense, but any good points you might have had are being rendered moot by the illegibility of your post. I dont know how long it took you to wite that but taking an extra 15 seconds to edit / paragraph break it would have made more people read it.
I don''t really know when Humankind will die out but i''m guessing about 6 years before WOW.
-BarCrow
I agree with you maybe i should have taken more time to edit some things, but you have to remember that i alway's react somewhere on the V:SoH forurms here at mmorpg and most of the time my words get twisted in to things i never said so i thought i'm gonna make a post expressing how i play and why so maybe when people took the time to strungle thru my post they might have a better understanding why it is i enjoy the game. In shorter sentence's i was alway's attacked as if i was saying the game was perfect.
I could have only have said: I enjoy the game, bugs like many say do not hinder me, i enjoy grouping, love crafting, diplomacy and adventuring, the game runs smooth, great community ingame still MY truth but feel that it might spark the negative reaction stream abit more then the negative's i'm getting now because of my long post.
I am also enjoying my play in Vanguard a great deal.
My biggest issues are 1) getting enough time to play 2) deciding what to do next ! ....I have a to-do list a mile long. The sign of a good mmorpg imo.
The term " viral marketing" is already getting old.....and it's use is an extremely obvious one. These are just people sharing their postitive experiences in Vanguard. Yes...many, many people are enjoying that game. Many of the players I've met in game are old school Eq1 players who don't care to dance with the trolls which dominate these boards. Their are also alot of WoW players who have " graduated" and seeking a more in depth experience, but have to play at a casual level due to life stuff. Vanguard delivers !
For me, Vanguard is a game best played with the idea in mind that one is going to be their playing for a very long time....years. It's so vast, deep and with so many options....I doubt I'll ever run out of things I want to do in game.
Play Vanguard
The game that sucks less than the rest !
I agree with you maybe i should have taken more time to edit some things, but you have to remember that i alway's react somewhere on the V:SoH forurms here at mmorpg and most of the time my words get twisted in to things i never said so i thought i'm gonna make a post expressing how i play and why so maybe when people took the time to strungle thru my post they might have a better understanding why it is i enjoy the game. In shorter sentence's i was alway's attacked as if i was saying the game was perfect.
I could have only have said: I enjoy the game, bugs like many say do not hinder me, i enjoy grouping, love crafting, diplomacy and adventuring, the game runs smooth, great community ingame still MY truth but feel that it might spark the negative reaction stream abit more then the negative's i'm getting now because of my long post.
I cannot possibly read that whole thing (your OP), but based on your last paragraph above, it seems there is nothing you dislike about the game, hence some peoples' reference to the 'V' word.I play WoW but there are things I don't like about it. Ditto LOTRO.
I agree with you maybe i should have taken more time to edit some things, but you have to remember that i alway's react somewhere on the V:SoH forurms here at mmorpg and most of the time my words get twisted in to things i never said so i thought i'm gonna make a post expressing how i play and why so maybe when people took the time to strungle thru my post they might have a better understanding why it is i enjoy the game. In shorter sentence's i was alway's attacked as if i was saying the game was perfect.
I could have only have said: I enjoy the game, bugs like many say do not hinder me, i enjoy grouping, love crafting, diplomacy and adventuring, the game runs smooth, great community ingame still MY truth but feel that it might spark the negative reaction stream abit more then the negative's i'm getting now because of my long post.
I cannot possibly read that whole thing (your OP), but based on your last paragraph above, it seems there is nothing you dislike about the game, hence some peoples' reference to the 'V' word.
Reason why i made the orginal post to show my dislike's aswell my like's as people seem to interput exactly like you have with my last words and fail to see this and really think that with my last words that someone doesn't dis-like anything about the game just because of my last words and then is considered the V word sorry m8 either read between the lines if not try to strungle to my long post before asuming anything. Now you see, that monstrous sentence you posted makes almost no sense to me. It's 6 lines long with absolutely no punctuation.
You suggest I read between the lines? I can barely comprehend the lines that are there ...
Thanks for the warning at the front of the post.... I skipped reading it.
Glad to see that you enjoy the game, (for what I'm sure are good reasons)
But why post this in the first place? Just curious. I have games that I really enjoy, but feel no need to 'sell' them to anyone else.
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Wow... op, truly no offense if English is your second language - but If it is your first (and presumably only language) I have a sincere suggestion for you. There is a short book written by the AP (Associated Press) called "The Word" which is a great read for anyone who wants to know how to write effective and readable english (journalism is the focus but a lot of valuable lessons can be gleaned from it in general).
As to why you are enjoying Vanguard - great ! Have fun. I tried to like it but moved on.