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So, you still love crafting?
Enigma
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I decided to create a post about this because I realized I wasnt the only one who went through this.
I was a full time crafter in Vanguard. That's pretty much all I did. Sure, I did other things such as diplomacy and adventuring but I never really enjoyed those two aspects of the game. Diplomacy was just a neat card game incorporated into a MMO (awesome idea....just not my cup of tea) and Adventuring was just too nasty for me (I love to solo sometimes and many quests they give you are group bases....if you wish to solo its pretty much grinding and farming MOBs and getting a fraction of the available quests provided to you. Don't misunderstand... I like to group but right now, grouping is worse than FFXI grouping until they fix it)
So back to crafting.
I crafted. I crafted my ass off. I crafted so much I would have severe arm pains as well as wrists pains. I realized I may have been developing the onset of Carpal Tunnel syndrome. Back in 1995 I promised myself I would never get Carpal Tunnel Syndrome playing a damn video game.
So, my guild was suffering from the same effects as I did. We were pretty much hardcore about crafting. We would get hom from work and crafted our asses off until midnight. We did this every night.
Then a guildmate told me about this pen . I went ahead and bought it, and it saved me a TON of aches and pains. Sure, weve tried macros but that still involved TONs of clicking. But that pen I bought WORKED frigging wonders for the game. The only thing is you need a lotta RAM because you'll have to minimize the game to switch it from Mouse form to pen form and back again.
If you still craft in this game full time, I seriously suggest that you get that pen or something similiar. It will make your sensless and crazy grind even easier
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
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TheCore
aye
many people in my guild has the Wacom tablet as well. Def saves a lotta time and pain lol
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Wow that was a record fast unwanted uneeded, idiotic response.
Please find someone to let me know that Carpal Tunnel Syndrome is a developing mental health problem. Seriously. Because last time I checked it was a physical complication.
I suggest that you grow up a little because your little trollish comment made you look less than bright.
P.S. Google the name of something you aren't too sure about. Itll keep you from looking like a retard. Also, learn about the english paragraph composition. I was talking about a pen that will work wonders for a crafter in the game...not a diatretic synopsis of Carpal Tunnel Syndrome.
Jesus, I firmly believe we as a species are slowly de evolving
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
With the pen you don't need to click all the time with the same finger or fingers. You simply point the pen to the icon and press down on the tip of the pen as if you are pressing into the icon.
The pressing is ultra sensitive but not too sensitive where you are clicking every damn thing on the screen lol. The pressing is much less taxing on the hand than the click is. Also, with the pen your hand is configured in a more relaxed state so that after about eight hours of mega crafting grinding you wont have arm pains like you're about to have a heart attack lol.
Plus, the pen is just plain awesome outside of vanguard.
However, if you arent too sure about the pen then try this
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
An ya your right the pen does rock period lol
of course in all fairness I do see how my response could have been misunderstood, for me the statement that crafting hurts yet he's still doing it is the flag that shows a mental health problem. Others focused too much on the CTS and forgot the big picture.
No crafting in the whole wide world is worth Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. I did have a similar RSI (repetitive stress injury) but that was from too much work. Took me two years to bring it under control, and it might take three more to be healthy again. Thank God it wasn't CTS because that is nerve damage, mine was just hundreds of micro-tears in the tendons. That can slowly heal up.
To the OP and everyone else, if you're even considering a pen or trackball or a special keyboard etc. you are in serious trouble. Don't destroy your own body! That is a process that you often cannot reverse!!!!
of course in all fairness I do see how my response could have been misunderstood, for me the statement that crafting hurts yet he's still doing it is the flag that shows a mental health problem. Others focused too much on the CTS and forgot the big picture.
No crafting in the whole wide world is worth Carpal Tunnel Syndrome. I did have a similar RSI (repetitive stress injury) but that was from too much work. Took me two years to bring it under control, and it might take three more to be healthy again. Thank God it wasn't CTS because that is nerve damage, mine was just hundreds of micro-tears in the tendons. That can slowly heal up.
To the OP and everyone else, if you're even considering a pen or trackball or a special keyboard etc. you are in serious trouble. Don't destroy your own body! That is a process that you often cannot reverse!!!!
That's the whole point of this thread, King Kong. Getting the pen or the Wacom pad prevents the injury from happening; hence, the reason why I made this post.
I'm thinking you have no comprehension of the post whatsoever. You completely misinterpreted the entire point of this thread....I think for the first time in my life Im speechless. I mean you totally missed the point of this thread. So I'll explain this really slowly and simply.
I am suggesting the Pen and the Wacom pad so you dont have to hurt yourself from the constant clicking. I am not suggesting you get the pen or the wcom pad so you can further hurt yourself.
The Pen and Wacom pad prevents Carpal Tunnel Syndrome ... hench the reason I created the thread....not to explain why I like paid and how I love to craft despit the pain. Go reread that initial post I wrote. ... again.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
yes
the pen or the wacom pad makes all the clicking pretty much go away . Instead of using the right button and clicking that 2300 times per hour you can use the pen or pad and lightly tap the desk with your hand in a position that does not cause cramping.
It's a hundred dollar investment but if you are a serious crafter in Vanguard I would heavily recommend it. It was a total dream come true for me. And when you don't need it for the game, it can be used it tons of other applications as well.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
How many years have computer users been using a mouse to control their pointer? I thought that it was a device specifically designed to be ergonomically comfortable to the user.
I think it is bang out of order to tell everyone that it is alright to push your body past reasonable limits. It is especially irresponsible coming from someone that has experienced worrying pains. If anybody here thinks that by changing the hand position frequently or by using a different device to arrest the pain of stressed muscles is in any way a solution to an obvious problem then you are terribly wrong.
My first thought on reading the OP was that 'somebody is trying to sell something to the community'. I'm afraid you have come to the wrong place if that is what you intended to do. I won't be fooled by your trash jargon tools. If you didn't come here to sell something then please consider what I have written to be one of a helpful nature, not just slagging you off because I didn't like the tone of your message.
To the OP....When you next google CTS then please take notice of wtf you are reading from, and make sure it isn't the back cover of a glossy magazine.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
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People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
You make me question whether or not it is worh writing in forums. You are so vehement in your desire to overrule whatever sense it is that confronts you.
I am not blind, I can see that the moderators here do not have to censor posts that are undesirable. It doesn't stop me wishing that they would.
I wanted to suggest that you should seriously consider that doing permanent damage to yourself is foolhardy. I even tried to comfort the blow to your ego by explaining that I wasn't here to burn your post, merely to buffer the obvious fact that you hadn't spent more than two seconds in contemplation of the fact that your idea was ludricrous. When you post in a public forum, you have to get used to the idea that any readers here might actually have their own opinion, and that expressing their opinion is their right. As I exercise my right to tell you that you are wrong, I have inadvertantly upset you. Well to me that is worthwhile, since what knd of forum would this be if I was to sit by and let you be extravert in your experience?
Has anybody else here ever heard of the term 'pseudo science'? Those two words speak to me of a conscious confusion of fact and fiction. All I want to do here is highlight the fact that the OP has gone past the point of no return. He speaks of how he has hurt himself by overusing his tool, but ignores that fact and picks up another tool to do exactly the same over again.
If the OP is telling everyone to avoid pain by buying this special pen he found then that seems harmless enough. All I am saying that you should ignore his stupidity, save yourself $99, and simply be sensible about the sort of time you spend crafting in one session.
Thanks for the advice
I have similar problems myself so I might consider buying this pen.
@PluddOne. You're right, but it's not that easy ... Atleast not for me ... We all know games can be like drugs
P.S I would never buy this pen for VG ... I hate VG
I know from my own experience that tricks like a pen, trackball, special keyboard etc only extend the agony, they are not the cure, you'll soon find an entirely different kind of pain cropping up and you'll always feel miserable
Want to know what I "invented"? The foot mouse, basically a trackball on the floor that you move with your toes. Strange as hell to get used to but I got really good at it, seemed to work great for a few months, guess what my feet an toes started to hurt and cramp up after a while and had to stop.
There is no other cure than quitting that stupid, mindless and idiotic crafting that you are so addicted to. That is what's causing the problem and it is deeply saddening that you don't want to understand this
STOP NOW!
if you do one day you'll thank that nameless poster on MMOG that helped you save your own body. If you can't, if you don't want to understand what I say it means you are addicted and you don't want to admit. No game is worth your health.
I know from my own experience that tricks like a pen, trackball, special keyboard etc only extend the agony, they are not the cure, you'll soon find an entirely different kind of pain cropping up and you'll always feel miserable
Want to know what I "invented"? The foot mouse, basically a trackball on the floor that you move with your toes. Strange as hell to get used to but I got really good at it, seemed to work great for a few months, guess what my feet an toes started to hurt and cramp up after a while and had to stop.
That idea was doomed to fail. I've heard of this myself but feet is used and made to take on your entire boyweight and more, which happens when you walk and run. Subtle and careful movements causes stress on the feet. Just try to move your foot from the ankle up and down, you'll see that it doesn't go as smooth as moving the hand the same way, the same goes for moving your toes compare to your fungers.
There is no other cure than quitting that stupid, mindless and idiotic crafting that you are so addicted to. That is what's causing the problem and it is deeply saddening that you don't want to understand this
STOP NOW!
if you do one day you'll thank that nameless poster on MMOG that helped you save your own body. If you can't, if you don't want to understand what I say it means you are addicted and you don't want to admit. No game is worth your health.
A mouse is not ergonomically good for people. The mouse concept was not designed to be ergonomic but intuitive. I don't think the inventors thought about the heavy-use consequences. Some mice have been designed to be more ergonomic, but I've only found one that provides a hand position close to ideal. The best current evidence is that any hand position approaching horizontal is bad. The best hand position is said to be around 75 degrees from horizontal. Even with that position, repetitive clicking is going to be stressful. The human hand was not designed for repetive actions on the muscles driving the fingers.
A pen is typically held with the hand in a more vertical position. Moreover, use of the pen does not require the user's hand to conform precisely to the orientation of a surface, unlike a mouse. Finally, pushing a pen down uses larger muscles of the arm, which are not as susceptible to repetivive stress injury.
What you are really telling those of us with repetive stress injuries is, "Don't Play!" I'll tell you something: I have repetitive stress injuries from just about everything I like to do. That includes staring into space.