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From Patience (Community Manager)
Patience
Community Manager
Announcing the First Seven LOTRO Servers!
Greetings everyone!
As Turbine's Open Beta draws ever closer, we’ve heard you say you want to start getting organized for the big day! Now you can pick which servers you’ll meet your friends and kinship members on. Although this is not a complete list, here are the first seven servers which will be available to our players when Open Beta begins for players in the United States, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand.
The first seven LOTRO servers are, in alphabetical order (drumroll please!):
Brandywine
Elendilmir
Gladden
Landroval
Meneldor
Silverlode
Windfola
We hope this helps everyone get ready to start playing - remember, Open Beta begins March 30 for Pre-order customers and April 6 for everyone else! Have fun!
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Meghan "Patience" Rodberg
Online Community Manager
The Lord of the Rings Online
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Nice, but what would be *really* nice is an enforced RP server. Something along the lines of the FV server in EQ1. A server where non-rp folks would be invited to leave and go to other servers if they acted out of character in egregious ways.
Just a thought. Could try one as an experiment. Would need a GM to help police the server, but should not be to much of a burden after a while. Worked on FV, in any case. And LoTRO seems to be the perfect vehicle for a RP Server.
Thanks
I could be wrong but I am 99% sure that Turbine has said that they will not support and special ruleset servers, so they will probably forbid the GM's from enforcing anything of the sort.
But I agree, I usually play on RP servers
Oh, but look here!
http://www.lotro.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19171
I've been waiting for this game for a very long time. The only thing really keeping me from buying it is the lack of an RP-friendly environment. After experiencing the horrors of the RP servers in WoW, the thought of playing another game with even less enforcement doesn't appeal to me. It was bad enough in WoW, but in LOTRO I can only assume that no specific RP servers and no enforcement of an RP rule set means the roleplayers will be drowned in a sea of leet-speaking, hormone-addled adolescent bullies with no respect for the game or for the game setting or for the other players.
The first game company to grasp that supporting roleplayers affirmatively with enforced roleplaying servers and dedicated 24/7 GM's to police such a policy will find itself inundated with desperate roleplayers from all over the world, eager to play in a clean, idiot-free environment where they can roleplay without worrying about a constant stream of "Lolz u rollply lamerz!" and such. Such a company will find itself with a loyal, paying and mostly adult fan base. Sadly, that time is a long way off, if ever.
EU (Codemasters) will have RP servers and language specific servers (German & French, remainders English). How strict the RP rules will be, hasn't been mentioned yet, as far as I know.
As for your assertion, and that of others elsewhere, that RP is oh so big and oh so in need of being addressed I would argue that the success of WoW (no denying it is quite successful) would indicate that game companies are fairly within bounds in ignoring RP, at least RP as you want it established.
Perhaps you should play the game, whichever game, your way and allow others to play their way and quit expecting anyone to build a private little place for you to play your way. Seriously, how arrogant do you have to be to suggest that Turbine should set up a special server with special rules and special employees to monitor the special rules 24/7? I would never say "Lolz u rollply lamerz!" but I would say you RP people who think you deserve you own little game within a game with special rules and GMs are lame; moreover, those RP people out their incapable of playing your way (as I play mine) amidst the wide world of modern MMOs are also lame.
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As for your assertion, and that of others elsewhere, that RP is oh so big and oh so in need of being addressed I would argue that the success of WoW (no denying it is quite successful) would indicate that game companies are fairly within bounds in ignoring RP, at least RP as you want it established.
Perhaps you should play the game, whichever game, your way and allow others to play their way and quit expecting anyone to build a private little place for you to play your way. Seriously, how arrogant do you have to be to suggest that Turbine should set up a special server with special rules and special employees to monitor the special rules 24/7? I would never say "Lolz u rollply lamerz!" but I would say you RP people who think you deserve you own little game within a game with special rules and GMs are lame; moreover, those RP people out their incapable of playing your way (as I play mine) amidst the wide world of modern MMOs are also lame.
I can only assume that English is a second or more language for you. That is the only charitable explanation for your mischaracterization of my post. No where in my post did I say that all or even many non-roleplayers are such. I said the roleplayers on an unenforced server have to deal with such. The idiots are a minority; but they are very real. And in an RP environment they are entirely too disruptive for their small numbers. My post did not disparage non-roleplayers who don't grief roleplayers. That you think it did says much more about you than me. But if the shoe fits, by all means wear it or insert it to your satisfaction. Meanwhile, I recommend taking a course in reading comprehension.
will i be switched to a different server after open beta?
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Every game should have at least one dedicated RP server. The problem with non roleplayers on an "unofficial" RP server is that they go out of their way to break the immersion for people who do. Name calling and harassment seem to be the only way non role players can respond when someone addresses them in character.
It is much easier just to seperate the different play styles on different servers so everyone can get what they need.
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"I can only assume that no specific RP servers and no enforcement of an RP rule set means the roleplayers will be drowned in a sea of leet-speaking, hormone-addled adolescent bullies with no respect for the game or for the game setting or for the other players. "
...how else is that to be taken other than anywhere that is not RP only (and enforced so) is drowned in the sea of annoying non-RP types. It is a very condescending statement towards non-RPs and it is very elitist. Forgetting that you are still professing to deserve your own game and the enforcement to make sure that special version is played as you want - it is ludicrous. Get over yourself man and learn to ignore asshats just as everyone else has to ignore them - don't expect special treatment and not only will you not be disappointed you will probably be less of a target to those asshats who get off on throwing cold water on people's fun.
As for the idea of having an official RP server I really have no problem with it - I would be pissed to hear thet are spending resources doing anymore enforcing of rules on that server than any other though. Suggesting RPs deserve a special server with special enforcement rules and policing is suggesting you deserve more attention and support for the same subscription fee than others do and that is ridiculous. Whether a RP or non-RP dealing with asshats in MMOs is an unfortunate reality - neither of us should have to deal with them but reality is we do. Game developers should work just as hard to enforce rules against those asshats for everyone.
The problem with an RP server comes in the enforcement you request. Just calling a server teh RP server doesn't ensure anything. It takes special attention, a great deal I can imagine, to enforce RP rules on a server. SO when you say you want this you are saying you deserve more and better GM support than other subscribers and that is just not reasonable. I imagine companies don't do RP servers for this very reason - you ask, even demand, more attention and support than is reasonable for your subscription fee. WoW's success proves you don't have to cater to the RP group to draw large numbers. Putting those two things together means you have a group who wants extra attention/resources but that not catering to them will not hurt subs - is easy to see what choice they will make in that scenario.
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"I can only assume that no specific RP servers and no enforcement of an RP rule set means the roleplayers will be drowned in a sea of leet-speaking, hormone-addled adolescent bullies with no respect for the game or for the game setting or for the other players. "
...how else is that to be taken other than anywhere that is not RP only (and enforced so) is drowned in the sea of annoying non-RP types. It is a very condescending statement towards non-RPs and it is very elitist. Forgetting that you are still professing to deserve your own game and the enforcement to make sure that special version is played as you want - it is ludicrous. Get over yourself man and learn to ignore asshats just as everyone else has to ignore them - don't expect special treatment and not only will you not be disappointed you will probably be less of a target to those asshats who get off on throwing cold water on people's fun.
AS for the idea of having an official RP server I really have no problem with it - I would be pissed to hear thet are spending resources doing anymore enforcing of rules on that server than any other though. Suggesting RPs deserve a special server with special enforcement rules and policing is suggesting you deserve more attention and support for the same subscription fee than others do and that is ridiculous. Whether a RP or non-RP dealing with asshats in MMOs is an unfortunate reality - neither of us should have to deal with them but reality is we do. Game developers should work just as hard to enforce rules against those asshats for everyone.
You're on the wrong side of this argument Smith.... RP's are not wrong for wanting a server with enforced roleplaying rules.... especially, no more than FFA PvP'er are for wanting specail ruleset servers to cater to their preferred style of gaming.
I've role-played on a "general" server before, and had to put up with both public and private harrassment by people who seem to delight in making other folks miserable. Telling RP'ers to ignore the jerks doesn't solve the problem.....
BTW..whats with the posting of your game machines spec's in your sig? You trying to be an elitiist by showing off how uber your rig is?
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You said, "I've role-played on a "general" server before, and had to put up with both public and private harrassment by people who seem to delight in making other folks miserable. Telling RP'ers to ignore the jerks doesn't solve the problem....." Do you think that each adn every non-RP can't say the same thing? How do you deserve a server that is somehow free of this and I don't? Why do you deserve a special server with special attention enforcing your special way of playing while my way, and others, doesn't get that same attention?
Is funny, you are arguing with me when it is clear game development companies agree with me as evidenced by the lack of the things you ask for. They are simply making a sound financial call by not designating a server as one where they have to monitor and enforce behavior AND even speech.
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I have to agree that pvp and rp are totally different things and really shouldnt be compared with each other. PvP is a game mechanic while RPing is more a state of mind. I couldn't imagine why a company would bother to go any further than just calling a server a RP server and leaving it at that. To have a GM there 24/7 to cater to RPers is a waste of resources IMO.
As you can probably tell I don't RP. I find it to be strange at best. However I don't grief people that I may come across that do. To each their own. Honestly I dont care what you do in game as long as it doesnt effect me.
I don't care for camping spawns, I think it ruins the game when two or three groups are camped out waiting for some quest MOBs to spawn but I don't expect a GM to police all spawn points making sure it isn't happening. I just move on to something else when I encounter it. RP people need to understand that they way they play is not the way most people play and find a way to adapt accordingly without expecting special consideration and resources.
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Dedicated RP servers have been confirmed. On the European forums anyways, not sure about the American servers :P
There are 20 dedicated RP servers in WoW, including the RP-PvP servers, in the US. For those who aren't intellectually challenged apologists for RP'er harrassment, do the math. Perhaps one day some game company is going to wakeup and recall what the "RP" in mmoRPg designates. There is an obvious demand for roleplaying servers. And most of the people on the RP servers in WoW constantly complain about the lack of enforcement. Many of them would flock to an mmoRPg with GM enforced rules, and perhaps even pay somewhat more per month for that privilege.
Will there be as many players as WoW has total? No. There won't be that many players in any game no matter the ruleset. Any game which tries is dreaming. But the total is easily as many as are currently playing VanguardSOH, for instance. When the blinding glare of WoW wears off the game industry, and the suit-wearing bean counters who control it, someone is going to realize the money to be made in making a real mmoRPg.
As for it not being feasible to enforce roleplay rulesets in games, it's been done for years in MUSH's, MUD's and more all over the world. So much for that argument. If a game has a ruleset which forbids OOC in public chat channels, then it can be enforced. It has been done before; and it can be done in the future. All it takes is the will to ignore or overcome the objections of the leet-speaking internet kiddies (and as I said, AgentSmith, if the shoe fits then feel free to insert it).
I'm not a RP type of player, nor am I the type to grief or take shots at RPers.
I think that community has every right to ask (even demand?) a dedicated RP server. However, I don't think the RP community has the right to request a 24/7 GM police force. In my opinion, the best option would be to have volunteer police. I don't think they would have a very hard time finding RP folks who would volunteer to do the job for free. IIRC this is pretty much how the guide program started back in the golden age of the original Everquest.
Anyhow, to each their own. Play however makes you happy, as long as it doesn't ruin the game for anyone else. Life is short...play hard. (no not like that pervs)
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