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MMORPG Staff - remove D&L listing please.

Sizzle69Sizzle69 Member Posts: 16

This games launch was from the outset full of unfulfilled promises of content and features for the game, but this is not the key problem as some people can't help how good they can make a product. However why this game should rearly be removed is thier continous disregard for the LAW. They have scammed people out of money through the entire life of the game and even before launch! I'am sure the majority of people here are aware of this, but people new to this game or MMOs in general may not be. Having a game company as deceitful as they are to be allowed the free market visability this respectable site offers is rearly unacceptable.  As the main reason this game is still running, is so they can continue to unlawfully charge people for subscriptions / cancletions or whatever scam they think up next for it. Having new people unaware to the problems join the game would make it worse. Please remove D**k & L****t, or at the least leave an official warning as to how thier current policy of subscription denies you the ability to cancel subsriptions without paying a penality clause. Thanks for your time if anyone read this.

 

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  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604

    /Agree.

    Supporting a game that does in fact mess with ppl's money as well as the no cancelation without a fee policy is outrageous. MMORPG.COM should not allow games like this on their site.

  • ShadowChaserShadowChaser Member UncommonPosts: 25
    Gotta disagree with ya on this one.  This site needs to keep these posts to warn anyone who might even consider buying this putrid monstrosity from making the mistake of a lifetime.  Who knows how many gamers have been saved by the posts in these forums
  • morgandemorgande Member Posts: 14
    Yeah, I've got to agree with ShadowChaser, If it weren't for these forums the rating I'd probably would

    have gotten robbed by d&l a long time ago. It think it should stay in the list.
  • ZorbaneZorbane Member UncommonPosts: 529
    I prefer to keep it here so we can still talk about any events going on with Dark and Light
  • ghoul31ghoul31 Member Posts: 1,955

    I don't think most people would even know about D&L if it wasn't for this site.

    And I don't think criminal organizations should be on this site.

    Are they gonna let the mob advertise on this site too?

     

     

  • ZorvanZorvan Member CommonPosts: 8,912
    Originally posted by ghoul31


    I don't think most people would even know about D&L if it wasn't for this site.
    And I don't think criminal organizations should be on this site.
    Are they gonna let the mob advertise on this site too?
     
     
    As the others have posted, these forums now serve as a warning to prospective victims of DnL. new people are always coming in inquiring about it, and when they are told some of the highlights and referred to the rest of the DnL section, they almost always come back with "I'm so glad I asked first!!". Now, if these forums weren't here, and someone asks about the game, what stops Farlan's schills from saying everything is a-ok and we're all juust bitter? Without these forums, we have no proof to offer people when they ask if it's really that bad.



    Also, you'll notice that there really is no active advertising here for DnL, only the game in the list and these forums. At first, I was one of the ones begging for this section to be deleted, but as I came to realize the benefits, I am glad this section is here to inform people of Farlan's scams and keep the schills/straggling fanboi's at bay.
  • TymoraTymora Member UncommonPosts: 1,295
    Originally posted by ShadowChaser

    Gotta disagree with ya on this one.  This site needs to keep these posts to warn anyone who might even consider buying this putrid monstrosity from making the mistake of a lifetime.  Who knows how many gamers have been saved by the posts in these forums



    I don't know whether to agree or disagree.  I think almost everyone would agree that Dark and Light is a very poor mmorpg, and even more important, it is run by incompetent underachievers who border on criminal.  If the game was not listed here, players might not be warned of this.  But then again, no listing can say alot, perhaps it says that this game isn't even worth a look, for free.

    The one thing I would like to remain is the warning that once you start poking around in Farlan's game, you might be tempted to subscribe, and then god help you if you ever want to cancel or get a refund.  If you have questions for their customer service or tech support, it'll take more than God to help you.

    It's not so much the game that should be taken off this site as the company that is responsible for it

  • KyleranKyleran Member LegendaryPosts: 44,078

    Leave it on here.  I never agree with censoring information, even when the motivations are alturistic....

    People need to know....this is a place they can find out.....   its not advertising, its keeping people informed....

    (lets just hope we dont see ads for free trials)

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  • TymoraTymora Member UncommonPosts: 1,295
    While I agree with this, I also think that it is not in the spirit of mmorpg.com to keep this site up just to 'warn' people and for it to contain negative information.  We know this mmorpg sucks, so maybe it's best that we get rid of it.  It is not censoring really, its just throwing out the garbage.
  • _Pix__Pix_ Member Posts: 276

    Well, I don't know if DnL should be removed from the MMORPG.COM game list, and then if these boards should be closed. What I see is that the wonderful job a few fans made in the past to help promoting this game is cleary visible here. IMO, the 2 sticky threads have contributed a lot to convince people to buy DnL keys, since there was no other publicity than on the Internet.

    Wouldn't it be quite logical to create another sticky thread including all the messages people here posted to warn other people there was something wrong with DnL /Farlan/NPCube, and this from the days when betatesters did not hesitate to disclose info as to the true status of the game and highlighted the multiple lies from Farlan/NPCube. In this very thread it would be quite normal I guess also to quote the multiple replies from those people on the boards who literally harassed non-fans who spoke about all the dysfunctionning communication around this game. Easy to promote a game and soil other people in order to silence them, comfortably hidden behind anonymous accounts, and then disapperar from the scene when times have changed. BTW, any news on Alchemic Dreams's current activities? Withdrawn from the scene too?        

    Today, as it stands, newcomers could believe that the downfall of Dark and Light was due to the so-called attacks against the project, whereas much on the contrary it was the very logical effect of the viral marketing campaign, which in my humble opinion, is bound to revive some time soon, because the "team" has the means to sustain it. Revisionism? Ever heard of a Chinese version? A kind of SoG-isn't-DnL again? History always teaches lessons. And these boards are quite an important part of History. People always tend to forget, to forgive and hope for better days. DnL/Farlan/NPCube should be put down in a History book.  

     

  • VegettoVegetto Member Posts: 841

    I did some investigating at work a week or two back, it's shocking how some of the people who act the same on other boards today, did so here with DnL. They are career fanboi's, that get carried away by their own enthusiasm, without objectively looking at the facts. They'll learn this skill one day, it's all part of becoming an adult :D

    I uncovered one guy, who is on the vanguard forums now flaming 'non-believers' who did the same with approximately 7 other games, including this one. Some people have no self-pride lol.

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  • TaguritTagurit Member Posts: 309
    Yep.  This site MUST stay.  I can guarantee you that FARLAN wants it to go away and for that reason alone it has to stay.
  • majochmajoch Member Posts: 599
    Well keep it here but put up one of those warnings like they put on the sides of cigarette packs. 
  • boognish75boognish75 Member UncommonPosts: 1,540
    dude i just wanna know who those 2 hot ladys are in yer box thing there.
    Originally posted by majoch

    Well keep it here but put up one of those warnings like they put on the sides of cigarette packs. 

    playing eq2 and two worlds

  • CholaynaCholayna Member Posts: 1,604
    Originally posted by Tagurit

    Yep.  This site MUST stay.  I can guarantee you that FARLAN wants it to go away and for that reason alone it has to stay.
    LMAO yeh okay for that reason alone I will agree.
  • agonzo11agonzo11 Member Posts: 52

    Funny. I was actually thumbing through the game list looking for a game to hold me over for awhile. Came to this post while investigating D&L. Glad I did.

    D&L needs to remain.... this forum saved me money and heartache.

  • GameRater911GameRater911 Member Posts: 8
    This game truly is a JOKE! I signed up for the forums a near 2 year agos, and waited for the game to come out. Unlike most, I didn't pay for the game right away and I'm sure as HELL glad I didn't.



    If you go to the website the forums are desolate, no bodies there, and no bodies coming back really. The website was last updated on the 16th, and for what? A link asking you to actually vote..



    "Dark and Light has been nominated by MMOsite.com as the candidate of the favorite game, best graphic, best pvp, best gameplay, best storyline.

    Support your game, vote now !"

    Who in their right mind would actually nominate this game?! I mean, back a year ago SURE. But now? Holy smokes.. Someone's been on the crack pipe too long.



    And, what's worse you might ask? They STILL charge people for the game they aren't even playing! Criminals.. Bastards all of them.
  • DraedanDraedan Member Posts: 12
    I completely agree that this site should stay up!



    Help keep people informed.  Help people that are looking for a new MMO to get the facts (or opinions) from other's experiences.  As painful as they may have been....
  • tepthtanistepthtanis Member Posts: 545
    People are going to try this piece of crap for the simple fact that all of us said "Don't play the game..."  And then there are those that no matter how much u warn them are dead set on trying it because their minds are already made up. So I say "Who cares!" If some idiot wants to try a game that is rated 3.3 (veryveryvery generous!) then let them do it! Keep DnL on here! maybe we can ween out some of  the idiots as they get lost in the "void" that is DnL! One can only hope...

    Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  • tepthtanistepthtanis Member Posts: 545
    By the way...Who is the one "jackass" playing this game and keeping it afloat??? I hear that all the programmers are chimps and that bananas can be bought with peanuts... 

    Played Wow, D and L, AOC, GW, Eve, Rift and many more insignificant games.

  • jimmyman99jimmyman99 Member UncommonPosts: 3,221
    Originally posted by Sizzle69


    This games launch was from the outset full of unfulfilled promises of content and features for the game, but this is not the key problem as some people can't help how good they can make a product. However why this game should rearly be removed is thier continous disregard for the LAW. They have scammed people out of money through the entire life of the game and even before launch! I'am sure the majority of people here are aware of this, but people new to this game or MMOs in general may not be. Having a game company as deceitful as they are to be allowed the free market visability this respectable site offers is rearly unacceptable.  As the main reason this game is still running, is so they can continue to unlawfully charge people for subscriptions / cancletions or whatever scam they think up next for it. Having new people unaware to the problems join the game would make it worse. Please remove D**k & L****t, or at the least leave an official warning as to how thier current policy of subscription denies you the ability to cancel subsriptions without paying a penality clause. Thanks for your time if anyone read this.
     
    You got my signature.



    PS: more paragraphs plz!

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  • i_is_crayoni_is_crayon Member Posts: 1
    Originally posted by tepthtanis

    People are going to try this piece of crap for the simple fact that all of us said "Don't play the game..."  And then there are those that no matter how much u warn them are dead set on trying it because their minds are already made up. So I say "Who cares!" If some idiot wants to try a game that is rated 3.3 (veryveryvery generous!) then let them do it! Keep DnL on here! maybe we can ween out some of  the idiots as they get lost in the "void" that is DnL! One can only hope...
    i believe ancient proverbs call the kind of idiot who would pay for something that everyone said stay away from a "fool," yes?
  • KerikaKerika Member Posts: 33
    I don't understand what you are talking about
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