I realize this is probably purely being done due to the publishing situation but of it indirectly keeps out asian gold farmers and reduces latency I am for it! Those two things can ruin game experiences for people just as badly as seeing guilds divided. In fact they affect a far greater range of players. Of course I am not in a long term guild so I am not as biased and have little to lose personally.
The ideal situation is that latency and gold farming are dealt with seperately and we can play where ever we want but we haven't found ways yet to deal with those properly.
I realize this is probably purely being done due to the publishing situation but of it indirectly keeps out asian gold farmers and reduces latency I am for it! Those two things can ruin game experiences for people just as badly as seeing guilds divided. In fact they affect a far greater range of players. Of course I am not in a long term guild so I am not as biased and have little to lose personally.
The ideal situation is that latency and gold farming are dealt with seperately and we can play where ever we want but we haven't found ways yet to deal with those properly.
lol what is up with people saying this has somethingto do with latency issues?
Just because some players from Europe logs onto a US server does not cause any latency problems at all for the US players.
The ones suffering from a lower ping and latency are hose logging in from Europe.
As for goldfarmers.
Some of the largest goldfarming companies that sells gold online is located in the US.
This splits long established guilds in the community, of which there are a lot. It's unnecessary to ring-fence MMO players in this way. It goes against the whole spirit of MMORPGs. Do you realise just how many long established international guilds this will p*ss off? It's a seriously bad decision, one that may severely impact the game. The vast majority of MMOs do not restrict in this way.
No offense but think you are the center of the universe much lately? It always makes me laugh to see someone so obsessed with their own preference or style that they are just totally clueless as to how small they are in terms of the greater market. WoW, as someone else pointed out, does the same thing and is the most succesful game EVER yet this guy comes here ranting about how bad a decision it is and how it will ruin the game - rofl. Face it, you and any 100 people you know amount to jack nothing to a company developing a game on the scale of a major MMO - me and any 100 people I know are equally irrelevant.
Americans and Europeans have very different attitudes on society and the way things work.
Europeans are more easy going and understand team work gets tthings done.
Americans tend to cry more and always worry abotu themselves.
Americans also tend to be very biggoted in regards to different people. The minute they saw someoen type in french or german the flame wars would begin. ( i generalize but its ture)
Turbine is doing you guys a great service by keeping you off n/a servers.
No offense but think you are the center of the universe much lately? It always makes me laugh to see someone so obsessed with their own preference or style that they are just totally clueless as to how small they are in terms of the greater market. WoW, as someone else pointed out, does the same thing and is the most succesful game EVER yet this guy comes here ranting about how bad a decision it is and how it will ruin the game - rofl. Face it, you and any 100 people you know amount to jack nothing to a company developing a game on the scale of a major MMO - me and any 100 people I know are equally irrelevant.
Get over yourself.
Looks like you haven't read the thread.
WoW does not seperate US/EU players anymore.
Just buy the right version and you're good to play on that versions servers.
Americans and Europeans have very different attitudes on society and the way things work.
Europeans are more easy going and understand team work gets tthings done.
Americans tend to cry more and always worry abotu themselves.
Americans also tend to be very biggoted in regards to different people. The minute they saw someoen type in french or german the flame wars would begin. ( i generalize but its ture)
Turbine is doing you guys a great service by keeping you off n/a servers.
edi** the poster above has it too.
eh ?
It is more like "Americans are tired of being bashed because of our government"
Exactly, I like americans, just not your government. But in game I tend to not give a shit about politics, except for the ingame politics which are important since I am a roleplayer. The best RP guilds I have been in have been run by americans and I have made a lot of gaming friends on your side of the pond. I truly hate it when they split up the community like this.
I mean it would be ok if they advertised and sold the "Codemaster version" of the game in Europe but did not hinder me from buying and playing the american version. At least 90% would probably buy the localized version anyway, all this does is splitting up friends, guilds and make bad pr for the companies involved, very stupid marketing guys at these companies.
This splits long established guilds in the community, of which there are a lot. It's unnecessary to ring-fence MMO players in this way. It goes against the whole spirit of MMORPGs. Do you realise just how many long established international guilds this will p*ss off? It's a seriously bad decision, one that may severely impact the game. The vast majority of MMOs do not restrict in this way.
No offense but think you are the center of the universe much lately? It always makes me laugh to see someone so obsessed with their own preference or style that they are just totally clueless as to how small they are in terms of the greater market. WoW, as someone else pointed out, does the same thing and is the most succesful game EVER yet this guy comes here ranting about how bad a decision it is and how it will ruin the game - rofl. Face it, you and any 100 people you know amount to jack nothing to a company developing a game on the scale of a major MMO - me and any 100 people I know are equally irrelevant.
Get over yourself.
Of course we are not very important and of course it will not get them significantly worse sales. But hopefully it will give them a bad reputation in the long term. But the worst part of this is that they do in fact split up communities and they don't care at all about doing so, and it is very frustrating knowing that they don't care about us, their customers. Of course I could boycot this game, but as you say, who the hell would care? no one but myself that don't get to play the game
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It was a business decision, and can be changed (as Blizzard did)...so keep putting the pressure on Turbine and you might prevail.....
but not much will happen by posting here...
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
It was a business decision, and can be changed (as Blizzard did)...so keep putting the pressure on Turbine and you might prevail.....
but not much will happen by posting here...
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
Personally feel it is an ok move to keep it split. My reason is in past games with US and EU , usually turns into a political shouting match over the Iraq war . Think because the EU has such a strong anti-war movement right now it is a logical step to ensure that the game is not a political haven for U.S, bashing.
Yes you may have a minority of cross continent guild mates , but for the most part that is about 2% of the player base. I think Segrigation is wrong , but for the sake of the game I think it is appropiate to keep peoples mind on the game and not political motives.
I can't even count how many times I was ask where was I from and I would say America, and I get over 300 Anti-U.S bashes thrown at me .
Ok first up no offense to you. Second I am sadened by the complete lack of inteligence being displayed in the latter part of this thread;
The above, while only opinion, is just complete crap. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FREAKING WAR OR AMERICA BASHING. And where do you get the 2% figure from? Why do people throw around statistics when they are only guessing? If you know for a fact please show proof or link to proof.
Moving on from you Fithred, and again sorry.
Sadly not for the last time... WORLD OF WARCRAFT DOES NOT ****REPEAT**** NOT ENFORCE SEGREGATION BASED UPON GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION. IF YOU BUY A NORTH AMERICAN KEY CODE WHILST LIVING IN THE EU YOU CAN PLAY ON AMERICAN SERVERS ---- EVEN IF YOU LIVED ON THE MOON PROVIDED YOU COULD GET THE CONNECTION!!
The split can only be for one logical reason [IMO].... Cod£ma$ter$ and not beacuse;
Americans are dumb
Europeans are dumb
America's war
Europeans Anti-war
Tomatos
Tomaytos
Colour
Color
Cod£ma$ter$ want to ensure that EVERY person playing LOTRO on their turf is paying them and not Turbine.
Ok lets make this easy. Just buy a game card when they come out. make up a us address for a billing as really they dont check it unless it is a CC like visa to check the billing info to make sure it is right. If it is a game card no checking needed as the card is paid for. Get a us copy and a us game card and ur set. There are always ways around things just a matter of looking for it.
Also the game is not even out yet and no matter what is said on there site now. Things can change in a matter of weeks with a MMO. they might set up servers that will work for both us and euro servers they might not. Anything can happen. Go to there site voice ur thoughts and let them now. That is how u make change not crying on other sites about it just dont flame it saying i wont play or get it if u dont do this because guess what they dont really need ur 15$ but letting them now ur not happy is a better way to go and maybe they will listen. If not dont play the game and move on to a game that u can play with ur friends and guild if nothing else go play eq2 ~ lol.
It was a business decision, and can be changed (as Blizzard did)...so keep putting the pressure on Turbine and you might prevail.....
but not much will happen by posting here...
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
I have been on the LOTRO boards since 1999, different developer yes, but that is for how long I have followed this game. I am very pleased to see that if finally becomes a real game that lets me enter ME, but I am mad as hell about this decision. It is not a surprising decision though, seems to be the current trend in MMOs. Nothing good ever comes from splitting up the community, especially not by force. Point is that they could have done this a smooth way, by just having the euro-version ship in Europe and you would have almost every european player buy that version anyway...
I still think it is just as bad as releasing a game too early, not the same thing but just as bad.
Why are you so fired up ? How is the Community divided, we where never together in the first place . Codemasters is their own community Forums, and Turbine has it's own community forums. So thuis great "divide" never happened with in the community. So basically you are hooting and hollering because of your own selfish interests .
It was a business decision, and can be changed (as Blizzard did)...so keep putting the pressure on Turbine and you might prevail.....
but not much will happen by posting here...
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
I have been on the LOTRO boards since 1999, different developer yes, but that is for how long I have followed this game. I am very pleased to see that if finally becomes a real game that lets me enter ME, but I am mad as hell about this decision. It is not a surprising decision though, seems to be the current trend in MMOs. Nothing good ever comes from splitting up the community, especially not by force. Point is that they could have done this a smooth way, by just having the euro-version ship in Europe and you would have almost every european player buy that version anyway...
I still think it is just as bad as releasing a game too early, not the same thing but just as bad.
lol.lol are you for real ? I don't see any community divided , except for a few people . For the most part it is healthy and it eliminates any anti- what ever that is happening in the real world to overflow into the game. How do you know if Iranians are going to playing, that would be real fun to have Iranians or any middle easternn country playing on the U.S.. servers.
If these people really cared they wouldn't even posted something to this nature here, it would of all been done on the official forums for the respective locations. the level some posters go to , to try and damage a games rep. Since they game is perticularly bug free, plays good , we can't trash that ,ooo yes , let's ride the "great divide" of the community pledge. Rally up , it is "the great divide"
Seriouly , want something done, take it to the officical forums, cause out here you look like advertised hate.
It was a business decision, and can be changed (as Blizzard did)...so keep putting the pressure on Turbine and you might prevail.....
but not much will happen by posting here...
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
I have been on the LOTRO boards since 1999, different developer yes, but that is for how long I have followed this game. I am very pleased to see that if finally becomes a real game that lets me enter ME, but I am mad as hell about this decision. It is not a surprising decision though, seems to be the current trend in MMOs. Nothing good ever comes from splitting up the community, especially not by force. Point is that they could have done this a smooth way, by just having the euro-version ship in Europe and you would have almost every european player buy that version anyway...
I still think it is just as bad as releasing a game too early, not the same thing but just as bad.
lol.lol are you for real ? I don't see any community divided , except for a few people . For the most part it is healthy and it eliminates any anti- what ever that is happening in the real world to overflow into the game. How do you know if Iranians are going to playing, that would be real fun to have Iranians or any middle easternn country playing on the U.S.. servers.
If these people really cared they wouldn't even posted something to this nature here, it would of all been done on the official forums for the respective locations. the level some posters go to , to try and damage a games rep. Since they game is perticularly bug free, plays good , we can't trash that ,ooo yes , let's ride the "great divide" of the community pledge. Rally up , it is "the great divide"
Seriouly , want something done, take it to the officical forums, cause out here you look like advertised hate.
I have preordered the game and will become a founder member paying for a lifetime sub. I don't come here to downtalk this game. That does not mean I have to agree with everything the devs do. In what way is it good for us, as players, not to get the choice of who to play with? They could still have EU and US servers, just not stopping those in Europe who wants to play with US friends, and the other way around.
Again, how is it good that we do not get to make this choice ourselves?
Originally posted by Fifthred lol.lol are you for real ? I don't see any community divided , except for a few people . For the most part it is healthy and it eliminates any anti- what ever that is happening in the real world to overflow into the game. How do you know if Iranians are going to playing, that would be real fun to have Iranians or any middle easternn country playing on the U.S.. servers.
Holy batman. Was your brain on while writing this ?
Obviously the split is a money deal between turbine and codemasters. Maybe stupid and dividing. The worst is that it was announced after many preordered.
But, if you would like to think about it, you would realize that Iran basically has no internet. Last time i checked (ist part of my job) the iranian domainspace was still blocked by US governemnt. Do you think there is broadband in iraq ? Thats polictics and war and has nothing to do with a mmorpg. Also most of the middle east has no or very restricted internet access (you know, they dont like pr0n). There once was a time when iran was a big allie to the USA and lots of people hat to go to exile when the king was gone. So guess what... almost every iranian whos able to play online games is either living in the US or Australia and almost zero are living in the middle east. Man grow up, every country of this planet has his own community of idiots, not only the middle east or previous the russions.
It was a business decision, and can be changed (as Blizzard did)...so keep putting the pressure on Turbine and you might prevail.....
but not much will happen by posting here...
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
I have been on the LOTRO boards since 1999, different developer yes, but that is for how long I have followed this game. I am very pleased to see that if finally becomes a real game that lets me enter ME, but I am mad as hell about this decision. It is not a surprising decision though, seems to be the current trend in MMOs. Nothing good ever comes from splitting up the community, especially not by force. Point is that they could have done this a smooth way, by just having the euro-version ship in Europe and you would have almost every european player buy that version anyway...
I still think it is just as bad as releasing a game too early, not the same thing but just as bad.
My point is that the last thing we need is more cross-game 'bashing', or 'bashing' at all for that matter. It leads only to messy threads full of nothing but bandied insults.
And I have to question your statement of having followed the development of this game for the last 8 years... but I'm not up for any arguments, and this thread is starting to loop.
I realize this is probably purely being done due to the publishing situation but of it indirectly keeps out asian gold farmers and reduces latency I am for it! Those two things can ruin game experiences for people just as badly as seeing guilds divided. In fact they affect a far greater range of players. Of course I am not in a long term guild so I am not as biased and have little to lose personally.
The ideal situation is that latency and gold farming are dealt with seperately and we can play where ever we want but we haven't found ways yet to deal with those properly.
haha
you must be joking go check on google or ebay all gold sell companies and you will see 90% of them are Americans., if you check on ebay you will not find gold selling for europe servers, most of them are for US servers.
Farming is USA issue not europe. and btw they not bloking asia from playing on usa servers they bloking europeans.
Faisons un petit test pour voir. Voyons si en ecrivant francais vous etes reelement pres a accepter des joueurs internationnal sur les serveurs NA ou plutot vais avoir des insultes par dessus la tete parce que justement j ai ecrit en francais. Les seule personne internationnal que vous etes pret a accepter sont ceux qui vont parler integralement en anglais. J applaudie par contre ceux qui font un effort de nous accepter par contre c est qu il y en a pas gros non plus. Mais honnetement c est loin d etre la majorite. Mais si on regarde les fait vous croyer que vous jouer avec des joueur internationnal vous etes loin la verite. Amusez vous bien. Hoho ca brule ca brule tres fort hehe.
Faisons un petit test pour voir. Voyons si en ecrivant francais vous etes reelement pres a accepter des joueurs internationnal sur les serveurs NA ou plutot vais avoir des insultes par dessus la tete parce que justement j ai ecrit en francais. Les seule personne internationnal que vous etes pret a accepter sont ceux qui vont parler integralement en anglais. J applaudie par contre ceux qui font un effort de nous accepter par contre c est qu il y en a pas gros non plus. Mais honnetement c est loin d etre la majorite. Mais si on regarde les fait vous croyer que vous jouer avec des joueur internationnal vous etes loin la verite. Amusez vous bien. Hoho ca brule ca brule tres fort hehe.
I took four years of french (about 10 years ago), but usually I can recognize a bit of it. Is some of this written in slang? If not I guess I have forgotten a lot more then I thought.
Currently playing: LOTRO & WoW (not much WoW though because Mines of Moria rocks!!!!)
Looking Foward too: Bioware games (Dragon Age & Star Wars The Old Republic)
You'll still be able to access the North American game from outside of North America if you registered in North America (provided your permanent address is North American).
It seems to me that this is the perfect solution for battling 3rd party gold sellers. Since a vast majority of gold sellers are from Asia, this would put an effective kink in this problem on US servers. Its also an effective means for publishing a game world wide and still get nice profits from areas that are not in direct control by Turbine. I seriously doubt that Latency is the primary, secondary or even tertiary motivator for this move.
With PvE raiding, it has never been a question of being "good enough". I play games to have fun, not to be a simpering toady sitting through hour after hour of mind numbing boredom and fawning over a guild master in the hopes that he will condescend to reward me with shiny bits of loot. But in games where those people get the highest progression, anyone who doesn't do that will just be a moving target for them and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay money for the privilege. - Neanderthal
Americans and Europeans have very different attitudes on society and the way things work.
Europeans are more easy going and understand team work gets tthings done.
Americans tend to cry more and always worry abotu themselves.
Americans also tend to be very biggoted in regards to different people. The minute they saw someoen type in french or german the flame wars would begin. ( i generalize but its ture)
Turbine is doing you guys a great service by keeping you off n/a servers.
edi** the poster above has it too.
Zevian, you are a complete moron. thanks you should get over yourself.
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The ideal situation is that latency and gold farming are dealt with seperately and we can play where ever we want but we haven't found ways yet to deal with those properly.
Just because some players from Europe logs onto a US server does not cause any latency problems at all for the US players.
The ones suffering from a lower ping and latency are hose logging in from Europe.
As for goldfarmers.
Some of the largest goldfarming companies that sells gold online is located in the US.
It's not just asia that farms gold 24/7.
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This splits long established guilds in the community, of which there are a lot. It's unnecessary to ring-fence MMO players in this way. It goes against the whole spirit of MMORPGs. Do you realise just how many long established international guilds this will p*ss off? It's a seriously bad decision, one that may severely impact the game. The vast majority of MMOs do not restrict in this way.
No offense but think you are the center of the universe much lately? It always makes me laugh to see someone so obsessed with their own preference or style that they are just totally clueless as to how small they are in terms of the greater market. WoW, as someone else pointed out, does the same thing and is the most succesful game EVER yet this guy comes here ranting about how bad a decision it is and how it will ruin the game - rofl. Face it, you and any 100 people you know amount to jack nothing to a company developing a game on the scale of a major MMO - me and any 100 people I know are equally irrelevant.
Get over yourself.
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WoW does not seperate US/EU players anymore.
Just buy the right version and you're good to play on that versions servers.
That's how Turbine/Codemasters should do it too.
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It is more like "Americans are tired of being bashed because of our government"
Exactly, I like americans, just not your government. But in game I tend to not give a shit about politics, except for the ingame politics which are important since I am a roleplayer. The best RP guilds I have been in have been run by americans and I have made a lot of gaming friends on your side of the pond. I truly hate it when they split up the community like this.
I mean it would be ok if they advertised and sold the "Codemaster version" of the game in Europe but did not hinder me from buying and playing the american version. At least 90% would probably buy the localized version anyway, all this does is splitting up friends, guilds and make bad pr for the companies involved, very stupid marketing guys at these companies.
This splits long established guilds in the community, of which there are a lot. It's unnecessary to ring-fence MMO players in this way. It goes against the whole spirit of MMORPGs. Do you realise just how many long established international guilds this will p*ss off? It's a seriously bad decision, one that may severely impact the game. The vast majority of MMOs do not restrict in this way.
No offense but think you are the center of the universe much lately? It always makes me laugh to see someone so obsessed with their own preference or style that they are just totally clueless as to how small they are in terms of the greater market. WoW, as someone else pointed out, does the same thing and is the most succesful game EVER yet this guy comes here ranting about how bad a decision it is and how it will ruin the game - rofl. Face it, you and any 100 people you know amount to jack nothing to a company developing a game on the scale of a major MMO - me and any 100 people I know are equally irrelevant.
Get over yourself.
Of course we are not very important and of course it will not get them significantly worse sales. But hopefully it will give them a bad reputation in the long term. But the worst part of this is that they do in fact split up communities and they don't care at all about doing so, and it is very frustrating knowing that they don't care about us, their customers. Of course I could boycot this game, but as you say, who the hell would care? no one but myself that don't get to play the game
but not much will happen by posting here...
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Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
The above, while only opinion, is just complete crap. This has NOTHING TO DO WITH THE FREAKING WAR OR AMERICA BASHING. And where do you get the 2% figure from? Why do people throw around statistics when they are only guessing? If you know for a fact please show proof or link to proof.
Moving on from you Fithred, and again sorry.
Sadly not for the last time... WORLD OF WARCRAFT DOES NOT ****REPEAT**** NOT ENFORCE SEGREGATION BASED UPON GEOGRAPHICAL LOCATION. IF YOU BUY A NORTH AMERICAN KEY CODE WHILST LIVING IN THE EU YOU CAN PLAY ON AMERICAN SERVERS ---- EVEN IF YOU LIVED ON THE MOON PROVIDED YOU COULD GET THE CONNECTION!!
The split can only be for one logical reason [IMO].... Cod£ma$ter$ and not beacuse;
Americans are dumb
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Cod£ma$ter$ want to ensure that EVERY person playing LOTRO on their turf is paying them and not Turbine.
Ok lets make this easy. Just buy a game card when they come out. make up a us address for a billing as really they dont check it unless it is a CC like visa to check the billing info to make sure it is right. If it is a game card no checking needed as the card is paid for. Get a us copy and a us game card and ur set. There are always ways around things just a matter of looking for it.
Also the game is not even out yet and no matter what is said on there site now. Things can change in a matter of weeks with a MMO. they might set up servers that will work for both us and euro servers they might not. Anything can happen. Go to there site voice ur thoughts and let them now. That is how u make change not crying on other sites about it just dont flame it saying i wont play or get it if u dont do this because guess what they dont really need ur 15$ but letting them now ur not happy is a better way to go and maybe they will listen. If not dont play the game and move on to a game that u can play with ur friends and guild if nothing else go play eq2
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Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
I have been on the LOTRO boards since 1999, different developer yes, but that is for how long I have followed this game. I am very pleased to see that if finally becomes a real game that lets me enter ME, but I am mad as hell about this decision. It is not a surprising decision though, seems to be the current trend in MMOs. Nothing good ever comes from splitting up the community, especially not by force. Point is that they could have done this a smooth way, by just having the euro-version ship in Europe and you would have almost every european player buy that version anyway...
I still think it is just as bad as releasing a game too early, not the same thing but just as bad.
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Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
I have been on the LOTRO boards since 1999, different developer yes, but that is for how long I have followed this game. I am very pleased to see that if finally becomes a real game that lets me enter ME, but I am mad as hell about this decision. It is not a surprising decision though, seems to be the current trend in MMOs. Nothing good ever comes from splitting up the community, especially not by force. Point is that they could have done this a smooth way, by just having the euro-version ship in Europe and you would have almost every european player buy that version anyway...
I still think it is just as bad as releasing a game too early, not the same thing but just as bad.
lol.lol are you for real ? I don't see any community divided , except for a few people . For the most part it is healthy and it eliminates any anti- what ever that is happening in the real world to overflow into the game. How do you know if Iranians are going to playing, that would be real fun to have Iranians or any middle easternn country playing on the U.S.. servers.If these people really cared they wouldn't even posted something to this nature here, it would of all been done on the official forums for the respective locations. the level some posters go to , to try and damage a games rep. Since they game is perticularly bug free, plays good , we can't trash that ,ooo yes , let's ride the "great divide" of the community pledge. Rally up , it is "the great divide"
Seriouly , want something done, take it to the officical forums, cause out here you look like advertised hate.
I like pie !
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
I have been on the LOTRO boards since 1999, different developer yes, but that is for how long I have followed this game. I am very pleased to see that if finally becomes a real game that lets me enter ME, but I am mad as hell about this decision. It is not a surprising decision though, seems to be the current trend in MMOs. Nothing good ever comes from splitting up the community, especially not by force. Point is that they could have done this a smooth way, by just having the euro-version ship in Europe and you would have almost every european player buy that version anyway...
I still think it is just as bad as releasing a game too early, not the same thing but just as bad.
lol.lol are you for real ? I don't see any community divided , except for a few people . For the most part it is healthy and it eliminates any anti- what ever that is happening in the real world to overflow into the game. How do you know if Iranians are going to playing, that would be real fun to have Iranians or any middle easternn country playing on the U.S.. servers.If these people really cared they wouldn't even posted something to this nature here, it would of all been done on the official forums for the respective locations. the level some posters go to , to try and damage a games rep. Since they game is perticularly bug free, plays good , we can't trash that ,ooo yes , let's ride the "great divide" of the community pledge. Rally up , it is "the great divide"
Seriouly , want something done, take it to the officical forums, cause out here you look like advertised hate.
I have preordered the game and will become a founder member paying for a lifetime sub. I don't come here to downtalk this game. That does not mean I have to agree with everything the devs do. In what way is it good for us, as players, not to get the choice of who to play with? They could still have EU and US servers, just not stopping those in Europe who wants to play with US friends, and the other way around.
Again, how is it good that we do not get to make this choice ourselves?
Holy batman. Was your brain on while writing this ?
Obviously the split is a money deal between turbine and codemasters. Maybe stupid and dividing. The worst is that it was announced after many preordered.
But, if you would like to think about it, you would realize that Iran basically has no internet. Last time i checked (ist part of my job) the iranian domainspace was still blocked by US governemnt. Do you think there is broadband in iraq ? Thats polictics and war and has nothing to do with a mmorpg. Also most of the middle east has no or very restricted internet access (you know, they dont like pr0n). There once was a time when iran was a big allie to the USA and lots of people hat to go to exile when the king was gone. So guess what... almost every iranian whos able to play online games is either living in the US or Australia and almost zero are living in the middle east. Man grow up, every country of this planet has his own community of idiots, not only the middle east or previous the russions.
Well, the problem and the very frustrating thing is they knew they would get this reaction. Games that go this way always get this reaction, but they just don't care because they know it will hardly impact their sales at all.
To me this is just as wrong a thing to do as releasing a game too early as Sigil did with VG and has taken so much blame for. The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well.
Not the same thing at all. If you're thinking of dropping some reply in here, keep it smart..
"The same people bashing VG really should come here and have a go at Turbine as well." ... No.
If you want to have your voice heard - GO TO THE LOTRO BOARDS.
I have been on the LOTRO boards since 1999, different developer yes, but that is for how long I have followed this game. I am very pleased to see that if finally becomes a real game that lets me enter ME, but I am mad as hell about this decision. It is not a surprising decision though, seems to be the current trend in MMOs. Nothing good ever comes from splitting up the community, especially not by force. Point is that they could have done this a smooth way, by just having the euro-version ship in Europe and you would have almost every european player buy that version anyway...
I still think it is just as bad as releasing a game too early, not the same thing but just as bad.
My point is that the last thing we need is more cross-game 'bashing', or 'bashing' at all for that matter. It leads only to messy threads full of nothing but bandied insults.
And I have to question your statement of having followed the development of this game for the last 8 years... but I'm not up for any arguments, and this thread is starting to loop.
you must be joking go check on google or ebay all gold sell companies and you will see 90% of them are Americans., if you check on ebay you will not find gold selling for europe servers, most of them are for US servers.
Farming is USA issue not europe. and btw they not bloking asia from playing on usa servers they bloking europeans.
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