this game blows

bellcurve0 · May 2004

Sweet graphics, but that's about it. It's Rune multi-player... but at least Rune had a better fighting sys. There is nothing very innovative about it. For some odd reason I thought the fighting would actually be real-time and not his turn based stuff (when they aluded it would be skilled based and would avoid lvling), infused with what they call "strategy", by clicking on your skills to unleash "special attacks". I don't really care how far away it's from being shipped, and that there is so much they haven't added in yet, at it's core this game is only about fighting and the fightings blows, hell City of Heroes' system is much more exciting.

ramadin · May 2004

Uh city of heros is the exact same combat system, go figure, theyre made by the same company. If you want point and click diablo type fighting, go play diablo.

Laying in bed, looking up at the stars, a single thought passed through my head. Where the fuck is my roof?

exilio · May 2004

Um..I think you need to login again and take another look at the game, cuz you are way off.

The combat is NOT turn based.

It is innovative in the sense that you can't go out with all of your skills for a mission, you need to pick the best 8 skills to work with your group and/or missions needs.

There are numerous special attacks that are far different than I have seen in any MMO thus far.

The is basically a cross between Diablo 2 and Magic...and the graphics are incredible.

I think you are biased for some reason, but this game is going to do very, very well.

tallsmartman · May 2004

Exilio hit it right on the nose, it doesnt seem like you are playing the same Guild Wars

It is not a "true MMORPG" we all know that by now, but i like this better, a few years ago, hey, even a few months ago, I would have found this too Un-MMORPG-like. But since life is busy, I find it great to be able to sit down, and have some fun without taking a half an hour walking to the nearest town. Ive played the "true MMORPGs" and I would still play them now if I had the time, but frankly, I don't and many people will love this game for that very reason.

I agree, that if it was turn based, it would suck, but its not even close to turn based, so it doesnt suck ^_^

bellcurve0 · May 2004

lol, ok, ok so maybe I didn't play for very long but still, it's not the game I though it would be. When they said it would be skilled based I was thinking for some reasen it would be soul calibour type fighting, not picking 8 skills (which somehow means my character gets selective amnesia and forgets the others he's got for the duration of a mission). As far as the comp between COH and GW, I still stand by my assesment that COH is more intertaining, reason being in GW you double click and enemy will just start bashing away and I'll just watch the action, then from time to time I'll click on a "skill" for some added attck punch. Maybe I'm doing it wrong but you can't say SG has more dynamic fighting than COH. I just wich you could block/attck realtime not this turnbased (by that I mean hitting and avoiding attacks are mathematical probabilities based on your character stats vs the enemies, not somehting you directly do a la soul calibur, or a ninje gaiden, hell or even zleda from the n64) crap all mmo's have to some extent. Damn you D&D. Who ever makes are real time fighting mmorpg, they will own all the market, since it would be pure skill and lvl would be rendered useless, the outcomes of the fights being soley dependent on you and not stats.

Obiyer · May 2004

When they said it would be skilled based I was thinking for some reasen it would be soul calibour type fighting...

Lol, I thought this too. When people mentioned the game is based more on "skill" I didn't asume they meant it literally as "skills". I was wrong I guess, but it's preety much like a wizard magic match being primarly based on magic. Guildwars seems is fun for me but the interface is horrible as are the shortcuts, and the glow engine looks great standingl still but when you move it gets ugly.

Teei · May 2004

Ramadin, GW and CoH are made by different devalopers, both publish by NCsoft. And the combat system is totally different.

I'm looking foward in GW. The Demo is very limited. I'm a little dissapointed in the cambat system. I thought it's going to be more action oriented like CoH, but I guess I was wrong. I won't judge the game yet, I'll wait for the beta to open and try it again. Right now, I'm not very impress yet.

ramadin · May 2004

Wha? The combat system in GW and CoH is identical. I know, Ive played em both.

Laying in bed, looking up at the stars, a single thought passed through my head. Where the fuck is my roof?

Teei · May 2004

How could it be identical? You should be able to tell the different after awile. It's no where near identicle.I guess everyone have different opinion. For me, I think the combat system in GW and CoH are different.

Darktongue · May 2004

Looks bland,feels bland and plays like ANOTHER asian MBORPG (Massively Bland Online Repetative Game)

Looks like L2 / RYL crap. Flashy spells arent all there is to great graphics.Theres no "meat" to these games graphics.You can get the feeling they are computer game graphics. Many years ago in EQ and even UO ,even though the graphics werent fantastic ,I still forgot that it was a game ,as such ,while playing them. The new mmos are all the same bland souless crap.

Play GW ,RYL and L2 and be hard pushed for someone to tell they arent same game (unless yer a fan or online game follower etc). CoH is a breaker in that it looks a bit diffrent and feels diffrent.

NEXT !

Tiberiux · May 2004

My First Impression of Guild Wars was avg. Graphics were spectacular, gameplay as about same as other MMORPG's more action overall, faster paced, but not as immersive and not as MMO as pay-to-play ones.

Last night, I decided to enter the world of Guild Wars 1 more time, after the frustrating first day I played (I hardly played the second day).

I did some solo questing, and was amazed by the size of the solo areas, and how they linked to parts of the world and corresponded to the map. I also liked the safe-zones where travellers gathered.

Then my friend logged on and I figured out that the DISTRICT is an instanced area of the game, as we were able to finally meet up easily and quickly and play togther (something we couldnt figure out the first day and thought the game was bugged and the servers were split).

We finished the remaining quests and tried some PVP. All very very fun.

The onboard messaging system and friends list works amazingly well. I just love how you have a mailbox of messages. So cool. I wish the Knight Online beta had the same.

I was about to log off at 3 am, when someone said it was possible to charm a lynx and since I was Warrior- Rogue blend I set off to see if it was true.

4:30 am I went to bed, but sure enough I have a lynx charmed

I will definately be buying this game. The alpha is awesome. Some people in game were saying theywould pay for the game in its current state, and I would too. $40 for Guild Wars with multiplayer replay value? You get more out of it how it is now than the majority of games released. More playing hours and more fun.

I cant wait to see what the beta or trial version looks like 6 months from now.

tallsmartman · May 2004

I must say, I liked the game a lot, as you did, and I do see the immersive issues that is more present with some pay-to-play MMORPGs. However, I wouldn't pay much for the demo. Maybe $10, but that's it. I just can't wait till there is beta, and of course, when it comes out...

Unless they totally make it bad, I will be buying this when it comes out...

ramadin · May 2004

GW is nothing like RYL or L2, whoever said it is has lost their mind.

Laying in bed, looking up at the stars, a single thought passed through my head. Where the fuck is my roof?

bellcurve0 · May 2004

Just thinking abou it, after playing L2 quite a bit in the beta, I find the fighting sys to be pretty similar with GW, infact it's basically the same thing. pseudo-realtime fighting infused with "skills" you click on. so non immersive, it's sad. In all these game why can't I press a button and block realtime? it's so frustrating. let the hidden stats figure out the probability of my character eveding an attack... garbage I say.

zide56 · May 2004

tallsmartman · May 2004

Originally posted by bellcurve0
... so non immersive, it's sad. In all these game why can't I press a button and block realtime? it's so frustrating...

I have no doubt this will happen some day, but the technology isnt there yet, people don't have fast enough connections. But in my opinion, it won't be too long till games start implamenting that. Sadly, the time hasn't come yet. When people start implamenting that, it will be so aewsome, Ive thought about it a lot myself, and am hoping for things to come...

Mcygee · May 2004

I played all 3 days and tried out many different styles. I love the single player and co-op stuff. But I hate the PvP. In this version at least, PvP seems to boil down to a lot of chaos and luck. There is some skill and strategy involved, but very little. It's run and attack somebody and hope everything comes together and things work out for you.

Also seemed to be who had the best skills that did the most damage. So level will help a lot in some cases. So I say yay to the coop and solo hunting. But BOOO to the PvP. PvP was just not that fun, very little substance. Just attack somebody and hope a bunch don't attack you, that's about it.

I realize this is pre Beta so I'm hoping something may change. But I don't know how much they can change, I don't see how they could change the core of the PvP. And it is the core that's the problem. This isn't some little fix. I just dont' think this is a good game for PvP. It's just not that fun.

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Munki · May 2004

im going to take the safe idea and assume most of you didnt make it to the 5th co-op mission.

That mission took my team more than and hour or two, it was hard.

I think there was 2 fights where we could jsut run in and fight

This game has more strategy than I have every seen in real time rpg before.
In the beggining its not as hard becuase they dont want to overwhelm you, but once you get further it gets a LOT harder, and it takes a lot fo strategy.
A lot of people seem ot be complaining about the 8 skill limit, not able ot change thing cause you only use one set of skills.

Maybe you do, but soon your gona hafta start changing, some missions enemies have different weaknesses than in others.
in some games, that little bit of damage dont matter, but in GW, it makes all the difference.
Also somtimes you have to adapt to the level, in some i had to take more slective skills, like antidote in missions where nmes poisoned me every 5 seconds.
or in some I had to take more quick damage skills, so I could deal with the nmes, or mass damage skills.

You have to adapt to the game, and change your plans often, and many people are not used to that.

loreofchaos · May 2004

ok this is what i got from coh cryptic stuidos had to show ncsoft how combat is done but they totally screwed L2 combat and now look what they do THEY DONT LEARN FROM THERE MISTAKES THAT PISSES ME OFF sorry but ignorance should be outlawed in america god COME ON pristontale took a step out of the ordinary and it is still alot in dev and THERE IS ALOT OF PEOPLE PLAYING IT ryl look at that makes good amount of people COMBAT ONCE AGAIN IS ACTION if these lame brains could only actually have the common sense see this is why i hate ncsoft soo much THERE IGNORANT god im getting really mad at the fact they refuse to learn from there mistakes thats something we all should learn at the age of 12 or maybe in 5 hell even 2 year olds ive been rambaling on about this to long leave this post here to discuss

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loreofchaos · May 2004

Originally posted by Munki

im going to take the safe idea and assume most of you didnt make it to the 5th co-op mission.
That mission took my team more than and hour or two, it was hard.
I think there was 2 fights where we could jsut run in and fight
This game has more strategy than I have every seen in real time rpg before.
In the beggining its not as hard becuase they dont want to overwhelm you, but once you get further it gets a LOT harder, and it takes a lot fo strategy.
A lot of people seem ot be complaining about the 8 skill limit, not able ot change thing cause you only use one set of skills.
Maybe you do, but soon your gona hafta start changing, some missions enemies have different weaknesses than in others.
in some games, that little bit of damage dont matter, but in GW, it makes all the difference.
Also somtimes you have to adapt to the level, in some i had to take more slective skills, like antidote in missions where nmes poisoned me every 5 seconds.
or in some I had to take more quick damage skills, so I could deal with the nmes, or mass damage skills.
You have to adapt to the game, and change your plans often, and many people are not used to that.

well your assuming wrong ncsoft is going backwords instead of forwards no one wants stratigcness if i wanted that i go play command and conquer I WANT ACTION NOT SIT THERE AND WATCH MY GUY WACK SOME CHARR with the most lamest skills ever watch im going to take a step out of the ordinary right now I CURSE YOU NC SOFT YOUR IGNORANCE DRIVES ME CRAZY! ROFL

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loreofchaos · May 2004

hmm i look at the game list it says exarch guess who makes it NCSOFT well ill put 10$ in that they'll screw the combat as they did with L2 and GW i mean gw isnt bad but COMBAT SUCKS me im a heavy duty mob killer/pvp slayer type of guy kill kill kill thats what i think the purposes of all types of MMORPGS /rpgs fps ect.... if im going to be killing I WANT SOME ECITMENT i want to feel like WOW THIS IS GOOD COMBAT when COH was 13 days before launch it was cool is was good i went in the game and before i had a feeling that hmm maybe i shouldnt play this they probably screw the combat up and then i start to think hmm a different company helping thats when i decided to go and man WAS I IN FOR A RIDE the combat OWNED i was a defender and man it was just GOOD the most huge spawn i have ever seen in all my gaming life took 4 hours to complete that mission god that was a good mission but anyways getting off topic ya i dont think i can even trust ncsoft personally i hope they run out of business to stop spreading useless games good at graphics sucks at combat the end gonna find something to eat havent eating at all today and its 11:20pm

a job of a lorer is to preach the history of chaos with out the lorer of chaos all would be in chaos

loreofchaos · May 2004

ok now i have been dogging on this game alot figure i give the hole story not the bad the graphics are good and man the tomb thing was cool partly becuase i lead my team to victory (love it how i bark commands) they do it and WOOPAM WE WIN had a little strategy going on i mean strategy isnt all that bad and neither is this game i just hate the combat but anyways its cool when you hit fame and shiz good game good game just not the way the combat should have turned out i think the combat is the only problem i have a bigger problem with L2 there is like only 1 monster and if another gets on you your a gonner pretty good game 1 thing they had improve on is spawns ok (btw late night snack TASTED GOOD LOL)

a job of a lorer is to preach the history of chaos with out the lorer of chaos all would be in chaos

spookytooth · May 2004

[quote]Uh city of heros is the exact same combat system, go figure, theyre made by the same company. If you want point and click diablo type fighting, go play diablo.[/quote]

They are not made by the same company. Arenanet made GW. Cryptic made CoH. They have the same publisher is all.

Furthermore Ive played both games, and the combat systems are nothing alike. The similarites lye in the fact that you press buttons in both games......and thats where any similarity ends. In GW you click on your target - and thats when you become a spectator. Your toon automaticaly runs over to your target and auto attacks. Then you can basicaly hit number keys till the skills you want to use go off. I was just sitting there hitting 2 and 3......and then click on next target.

Overall I liked the game. The graphics go without saying - but the quests you went on....it reminded me of a single player game. Told a story, lots of interaction with the enviorment (combat not included), very linear in design. I thought it was quite brilliant.

Basically Im just gonna wait till beta to see what theyve got. If they spruce up the combat and give the player more control (and more to do) then Id by the game.

loreofchaos · May 2004

if i was christainity i say Amen but im not you there just said the exact words that i was thinking and did a good job getting them out

a job of a lorer is to preach the history of chaos with out the lorer of chaos all would be in chaos

Kartel · May 2004

Anyone else notice the irony of Loreofchaos's rants about "ignorance"?
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Ezikeil · May 2004

Hehe he was drunk when he posted that, don't put much value into them unless he posts again when he's sober and confirms his posts

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