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Yet another newb brimming with Qs

Well, long story short, I've run the gamut of most MMOs worth playing (except DAoC). I recently retired my WoW account after a whopping 94 days /played. One day, a switch was thrown and I completely fell out of love with raiding. So here I am. I'm DL'ing the trial with hopes of a meaningful PvP experience. However, I have a few questions that I hope some kind soul could help me with.



1) I prefer to play support classes and I prefer to play for a realm that is the underdog more times than not. Is there any class you can recommend that is very desirable for group PvP, but not exactly a sitting duck when it comes down to it?



2) Is it viable to level up by only PvPing in DAoC, or is there a standard quick way that most people use to level? I realize that at this stage of the game, 50 is probably the goal to shoot for as quickly as possible to then really enjoy what the game has to offer. I had heard something about % increase to xp.



3) Speccing and respeccing. How important is this in DAoC? Is it easy to gimp your class if you don't know what you are doing or is it pretty lenient so that you can have diverse characters that are still viable? And is respeccing limited or can a support class spec dps for leveling and then respec back to support at 50?



4) If I go with a Classic server, how much time is needed to get a character RvR ready? I've heard that thrown around on a few different places and am not really about doing much PvE since that is mainly why I quit WoW.



Well, that's mainly the questions I had at the moment. Thankyou in advance.

Comments

  • JulianDracosJulianDracos Member UncommonPosts: 1,528
    1.  Mid is the underdog.  Healers, Shamans, and Skalds I think qualify as support classes for most people.



    2.  In theory you can level up only with PvP, in practice it does not work because most people are not out doing it from level 1.  Leveling is very quick and easy.  At certain level rangers the BG provide ample oportunity to level up and earn realm points.



    3.  Is it easy to gimp your class?  Maybe it depends on the class and how you spec.  I think a Mentalism speced Mentalist is pretty gimped.  In any case it is very easy to fix.  At certain levels 20/40 you can respec one line you have trained in.  I think you also have full respecs of at least one (not sure since they give these out from time to time and I never respec).  You can farm stones that allow you to respec.  You can also purchase respecs for gold. 



    4.  It depends what you mean by "RvR" ready.  That all depends on the class you play, if you do siege or 8 man, are you playing with power gamers, etc.  If you are your average player that does not insist on the best of everything but want really good gear so as to not die instantly it is pretty easy.  You purchase your armor and have it enchanted, spellcrafted, and have some procs put on it.  You will most likely use your Champion weapon.  Getting the Chanpion weapon might take some time, but you can find decent altrenatives if you want. 
  • hogscraperhogscraper Member Posts: 322
    Across all clusters, Albs and mids are about even on towers/keeps and relics atm. On Classic cluster, which is what you mentioned wanting to play on, Albs are definately the underdogs there. However, and this is true especially in the battlegrounds, ( rvr zones for players <lvl 50), albs are very tough to play and get decent rps. Here lately they have been gaining some momentum, but across the classic cluster timeline, they have been especially lacking in players. If you choose classic and want underdog, though, either alb or mid will get you that feel. Hibs have been the dominant force since I first started playing there. If you choose to play alb, Clerics, heretics and pallys are good for support toons. Pallys are one of the primary tanks in albion, but they bring chants and celerity to the group and both of those things would be considered "support" abilities. Pallys can be very good at dealing damage, but they work best as a support toon with high shield and chants. Guarding clerics so they don;t get hit, getting and holding aggro, just not doing as much damage as other classes. Clerics are the primary healers/buffers of albion and heretics are a buffing, healing, damage dealing hybrid that can serve as a poor mans support class.

    And yes, in dark age, it is extremely easy to gimp a toon. You can easily gimp many toons by level 15 by spreading your points too thin. Almost any class has definite strengths and weaknesses and not paying attention to how you spec could easily make you hate your toon.  At higher levels, multi-speccing is ok because you get more points, at lower levels it can make your guy unable to have fun with. Respecs are fairly abundent these days, though, so if you do mess up your character, with a little cash, you can fix them. The respecs that you buy ramp up in price every time you buy one, and also by level, so don't go respeccing your guy 20 times at level 15 to see what spec you like best. It will end up costing you big money at higher levels if the absolute need to do so arrises. They cap out at 50 plat per respec at level 50. If mythic tinkers with the class you chose by way of drastic changes, good or bad, they give you a forced respec. That's where you log in and all of your points have been taken out of what you spent them on and you have to then respend them. Also, whenever one of the larger patches go through, 1.88 for instance and not at 1.88A, 1.88B, 1.88C, you get what's called a Mythic respec that allows you to respec all of your character's class based skills. It would really benefit your character if you did some research into the class you want to play and the role you want to fill with him. If you want a healing, buffing Healer from midgard, wouldn't help you too much to have points in Pacification since that's not what you want to do. Same if you wanted a defensive pally and you put points into 2Handers and parry.



    This game is a few years old now and with little effort you should be able to google DAOC class guides for whatever you choose to do. Camelotherald.com and daoc.catacombs.com can fill in a lot of blanks as to what your particular class is capable of because the last year has seen many many class revamps by mythic.
  • OgrelinOgrelin Member Posts: 636

    Welcome to DAoC! :)

  • YeeboYeebo Member UncommonPosts: 1,361
    By all means google DAoC and research your class a bit before you jump in. The sites listed above are all good resources.  Also, play with a talent calculator.  Decide what skills you want to go for and at what level you want to get them.  I've even made spreadsheets comparing weapons specs for some realms to help me decide what weapon to specialize in when playing a melee type (sad, I know). 



    It is a bit too easy to gimp a new toon in DAoC, one of the few things I dislike about the game (although the vast difference between different specs of the same class also gives the game nice replay value).  If I were the god of DAoC I'd give everyone free unlimited respecs until level ten or so.   Once you get a handle on what you are doing, you'll find your playing one of the best games on the market.  Happy travels!



    PS: hint....google "aurulite"

    I don't want to write this, and you don't want to read it. But now it's too late for both of us.

  • NierroNierro Member UncommonPosts: 1,755
    Originally posted by Ogrelin


    Welcome to DAoC! :)
    Did you have a toon ever named Nossie by any chance?

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  • OgrelinOgrelin Member Posts: 636

    Sorry, never did :)


    Originally posted by Nierro
    Originally posted by Ogrelin Welcome to DAoC! :)
    Did you have a toon ever named Nossie by any chance?

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