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Playing US or EU Version?

I'm a Spanish gamer and I would like to know wich version would you guys play. Infact the game is cheaper in US but that's not the issue. It seems that the game is managed by Codemasters in EU but not in US? Also, it seems that the open beta will start in US on 30 march and in EU on 14 april.

 

What are your regards about this?

 

Thanks for the help

EDIT: BAH This sucks, I can only play EU version because they blocked EU countries from playing US....

 

man this is lame

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  • RedRabRedRab Member UncommonPosts: 280


    Originally posted by Xeamoz
    EDIT: BAH This sucks, I can only play EU version because they blocked EU countries from playing US....

    man this is lame

    You said it brother. Big big suckage.

    “Hustlers of the world, there is one mark you cannot beat: the mark inside.”
    William S. Burroughs

  • AnawielAnawiel Member Posts: 98


    Originally posted by Xeamoz
    I'm a Spanish gamer and I would like to know wich version would you guys play. Infact the game is cheaper in US but that's not the issue. It seems that the game is managed by Codemasters in EU but not in US? Also, it seems that the open beta will start in US on 30 march and in EU on 14 april.

    What are your regards about this?

    Thanks for the help
    EDIT: BAH This sucks, I can only play EU version because they blocked EU countries from playing US....

    man this is lame

    You have my compassion, as I am in the same boat.

    I can only paraphrase Gollum to express my feelings about thes "We hate Turbine, we hate Codemasters, we hate 'em precioussssss"
    *leaves with a frustrated look in the eyes*

  • RedRabRedRab Member UncommonPosts: 280

    As I understand it it isn't Turbine. In fact the devs are said to be not happy about it. It was apparently forced on Turbine by Codemasters as part of the distribution deal, and as they needed an EU publisher they reluctantly caved in. That's what I've heard anyway.

    “Hustlers of the world, there is one mark you cannot beat: the mark inside.”
    William S. Burroughs

  • KroggKrogg Member Posts: 480
    I'm playing the Canadian version. 
  • RattrapRattrap Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,599
    I am playing EU version



    And although I dont really understand why is everyone so shocked with server split? Only game that supports playing on USA servers by europeans is EQ2 and FFXI... so why the soprise ?!?!



    Anyway - playing on USA servers means that your prime time from 19-24 let say. Will be from 10-14 in USA ... and this is the time hardly anyone plays ?







    Soi dont see why all the whining ?

    "Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas

  • AnawielAnawiel Member Posts: 98


    Originally posted by Rattrap
    Soi dont see why all the whining ?
    It must be difficult for you to understand, but for some people the primary time isn't between 19-24. And also, some people have their friends in the USA rather than in Europe.
    Besides, no OTHER game filters people out according to their location, for example WOW has separate servers but it is possible to play in america if you want to, nobody is trying to restrict you.
  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Originally posted by Rattrap

    I am playing EU version



    And although I dont really understand why is everyone so shocked with server split? Only game that supports playing on USA servers by europeans is EQ2 and FFXI... so why the soprise ?!?!



    Anyway - playing on USA servers means that your prime time from 19-24 let say. Will be from 10-14 in USA ... and this is the time hardly anyone plays ?







    Soi dont see why all the whining ?
    EQ and FXI... and AO, SoR, SWG, VSoH, L2, PS + GW.



    Just becuase EU has been segregated in the past, it doesnt justify it occuring in the future. Peoples "whining" is a means of voicing their opinion so that by chance some hap hazzard codemasters employee reads mmorpg.com and see's the discontent of other persons. It is, a most basic form of expressing democracy.



    Many are prepared to meet the timezone requirements if it allows them the opportunity to commute with people from other parts of the world. There are also US military personel in Europe who may wish to play with friends/family. Who are you to judge a persons time requirements? People should be able to make their own decision, not have it forced upon them.



    IMO servers should be international.

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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by godpuppet 

    People should be able to make their own decision, not have it forced upon them.





    I agree. People who think this is a gamebreaker have the right to not play. As you point out for those for who it is that bug if a deal there are choices. Every one has to weigh their options. I am not happy about this either. My SWG guild was 80% European, However thsi was a business decision by Turbine and Codemasters and I had to decide whether this issue was important enough for me not to buy.

    I made my choice and I am still planning on the lifetime subscription.

    Just out of curiosity if they did change their minds Godpuppet will you be  canceling Vanguard and buying a lifetime sub to LoTRO?

    I miss DAoC

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Originally posted by Jackdog
    Just out of curiosity if they did change their minds Godpuppet will you be  canceling Vanguard and buying a lifetime sub to LoTRO?
    Nationality Segregation on servers, is a big deal to me, but its not big enough for me to not even trial a game. The quality of the game and then the quality of the company decides whether or not I choose to purchase it.



    As for Vanguard, Ive been away recently, so I only got two weeks in. Subscription ran out and im considering coming back at a later date. The games bugs are horrific and the community isnt that great tbh.



    Ill never buy a lifetime sub.



    But I will try LOTRO when a trial comes around. Unfortunately, I didnt get to Beta (military training, le sigh).

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  • RattrapRattrap Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,599
    Ok ok



    I apologise for saying whining.



    I too understand your point...



    But the fact that EU player can play on USA WOW server is plainly not true. You can check this out.









    The problem is that diferent companies handle EU and USA subs.



    Sad but true. And as i said before. At least Turbine acknowledged this before game went live.



    Not like Blizz that lied about it until the people got the game and figured they were swindled

    "Before this battle is over all the world will know that few...stood against many." - King Leonidas

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Originally posted by Rattrap

    Ok ok



    I apologise for saying whining.



    I too understand your point...



    But the fact that EU player can play on USA WOW server is plainly not true. You can check this out.









    The problem is that diferent companies handle EU and USA subs.



    Sad but true. And as i said before. At least Turbine acknowledged this before game went live.



    Not like Blizz that lied about it until the people got the game and figured they were swindled
    EU players caught on US servers lose their account. I lost mine.



    Blizzard see's us as Eastern European/Chinese farmers and beats us with the ban stick.





    I was in WoW Beta, I voiced my thoughts on segregation months before they were even considering it. Sad thing about Blizzard is the state of their forums. Its always been a Troll flame fest with little hope of cohesive posts ever meeting the eyes of developers. Meh...





    Your right, there are other means of playing on US server, but it still deficient, I want to play with people from all over the globe, not just europeans or americans/aussies/canadians exclusively.

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  • OBK1OBK1 Member Posts: 637
    Godpuppet, I feel the same way. This is not a showstopper and I will buy Lotro, but I too want to play with people from all around the world. Or at least have the choice to do so! A someone said, credit to the devs that did not want this, but what kind of deals do Turbine make? I mean they must have known about this issue a long time ago but then neglected it when doing business with Codemasters.
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    After talking to the wife and brother in law this afternoon, both are bean counters. It seems as if this will probably be the business model of the future for these sort of situations unless the company already has a sizable European staff and office already in place. Turbine obviously does not, and Codemasters negotiated this clause into their contract.

    It's nothing but business baby and the bottom line is money. Turbine wants to make a profit, Codemasters wants to make a profit and we want the game. The more profit the companies make the more they will reinvest into the game, and the happier we will be because there will be more game to play. I will miss my British, Swedish, and French online buddies, but that is life.

    I miss DAoC

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Originally posted by Jackdog


    After talking to the wife and brother in law this afternoon, both are bean counters. It seems as if this will probably be the business model of the future for these sort of situations unless the company already has a sizable European staff and office already in place. Turbine obviously does not, and Codemasters negotiated this clause into their contract.
    It's nothing but business baby and the bottom line is money. Turbine wants to make a profit, Codemasters wants to make a profit and we want the game. The more profit the companies make the more they will reinvest into the game, and the happier we will be because there will be more game to play. I will miss my British, Swedish, and French online buddies, but that is life.
    But what exactly will the staff do? European Phone support? Not needed, providing email support is fast and effective you need no other, you could even used text chat which many companys seem to use these days. Billing Staff? Why not just hire a few extra employees clued up on the European Business module, or even hire a billing company to handle that side for you.



    You dont need servers based in europe, this whole arguement of "too much lagg" is bull. Ive played EQ on 56k on US servers and rarely lagged. WoW CB OB and retail on US servers and lagg due to distance from servers was not an issue(lagg caused by high pop aside). I play EVE, AO and lagg again, is not an issue.



    International servers, work. So why change it?

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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321
    Originally posted by godpuppet

    But what exactly will the staff do? European Phone support? Not needed, providing email support is fast and effective you need no other, you could even used text chat which many companys seem to use these days. Billing Staff? Why not just hire a few extra employees clued up on the European Business module, or even hire a billing company to handle that side for you.



    You dont need servers based in europe, this whole arguement of "too much lagg" is bull. Ive played EQ on 56k on US servers and rarely lagged. WoW CB OB and retail on US servers and lagg due to distance from servers was not an issue(lagg caused by high pop aside). I play EVE, AO and lagg again, is not an issue.



    International servers, work. So why change it?
    Damned if I know Godpuppet. I am fairly certain one morning Jeff Anderson did not just wake up and say "hey I have an idea let's segregate the Euro's just to piss people off". I do know the company I work for uses contracted companies to provide cafeteria service, building management services, and janitorial services. It seems to me that hiring our own would be cheaper but I guess not, I am a techie not a MBA. I wish they would reconsider also but I have a feeling this is not going to change.

    I miss DAoC

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Originally posted by Jackdog

    Originally posted by godpuppet

    But what exactly will the staff do? European Phone support? Not needed, providing email support is fast and effective you need no other, you could even used text chat which many companys seem to use these days. Billing Staff? Why not just hire a few extra employees clued up on the European Business module, or even hire a billing company to handle that side for you.



    You dont need servers based in europe, this whole arguement of "too much lagg" is bull. Ive played EQ on 56k on US servers and rarely lagged. WoW CB OB and retail on US servers and lagg due to distance from servers was not an issue(lagg caused by high pop aside). I play EVE, AO and lagg again, is not an issue.



    International servers, work. So why change it?
    Damned if I know Godpuppet. I am fairly certain one morning Jeff Anderson did not just wake up and say "hey I have an idea let's segregate the Euro's just to piss people off". I do know the company I work for uses contracted companies to provide cafeteria service, building management services, and janitorial services. It seems to me that hiring our own would be cheaper but I guess not, I am a techie not a MBA. I wish they would reconsider also but I have a feeling this is not going to change. Bah! This subject really makes me irrate. What I see, is there will be division, some companys will adopt it, others will just simply go the international route...



    I guess we'll see with AoC + Warhammer.

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  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    @Godpuppet

    If Warhammer swung that way I would be extremely surprised, however they are in bed with EA now so anything could happen. AoC no frigging way since Funcomm is Norwegian. Sigh....too darn many good games releasing in the next 12 months, they need to spread it out a bit.

    I miss DAoC

  • OBK1OBK1 Member Posts: 637

     

    Originally posted by Jackdog


    @Godpuppet
    If Warhammer swung that way I would be extremely surprised, however they are in bed with EA now so anything could happen. AoC no frigging way since Funcomm is Norwegian. Sigh....too darn many good games releasing in the next 12 months, they need to spread it out a bit.
    Hehe oh yes! Big problem for me as well!
  • JackdogJackdog Member UncommonPosts: 6,321

    nevermind I should have looked at all the new topics before posting

    I miss DAoC

  • RedRabRedRab Member UncommonPosts: 280


    Originally posted by Jackdog
    Originally posted by godpuppet
    But what exactly will the staff do? European Phone support? Not needed, providing email support is fast and effective you need no other, you could even used text chat which many companys seem to use these days. Billing Staff? Why not just hire a few extra employees clued up on the European Business module, or even hire a billing company to handle that side for you.You dont need servers based in europe, this whole arguement of "too much lagg" is bull. Ive played EQ on 56k on US servers and rarely lagged. WoW CB OB and retail on US servers and lagg due to distance from servers was not an issue(lagg caused by high pop aside). I play EVE, AO and lagg again, is not an issue.International servers, work. So why change it?
    Damned if I know Godpuppet. I am fairly certain one morning Jeff Anderson did not just wake up and say "hey I have an idea let's segregate the Euro's just to piss people off". I do know the company I work for uses contracted companies to provide cafeteria service, building management services, and janitorial services. It seems to me that hiring our own would be cheaper but I guess not, I am a techie not a MBA. I wish they would reconsider also but I have a feeling this is not going to change.

    Agreed, but it certainly won't change if we do not challenge it. Mythic/GOA manage the North American/European licensing and publishing issue without forced segregation. I would be quite happy to purchase, and pay a subs for, both versions but I am unable to do even this. Who would lose money here? I suspect a lot of MMO players would sub to both if given the chance in order to play with established friends and guilds on both sides of the pond.

    Also it really stabs at the heart of those of us who have been part of the MMO community since the early days. We don't want the community split in this way. I know you agree with this Jack.

    I would also suggest that this perhaps goes further than mere gaming, or may do. Think if you will about the relationship between the net and large corporations and why so many netizens have fought so long and so hard to keep the net, as far as possible, both global and independent. If you think about this you will see why so many long established members of the MMO community and long-time net users are utterly opposed a decision of this type, and will always fight any company that tries to enforce such an apartheid.

    The thin end of the wedge perhaps?

    “Hustlers of the world, there is one mark you cannot beat: the mark inside.”
    William S. Burroughs

  • FlorisFloris Member Posts: 3

    First off all you can play WoW in EU on a US server I did so a few weeks back. Its just download the trail version. I understood that Blizard fix this after complainnts from pll. I like to play on servers that are US first you dont have a discusion what we speak in a group mostly just english will do second i like it that i dont have to fight for a sertain mob. I loved it when i was in EQ2 and evry mob you needed was just up and not just killed by a group

     

     

  • godpuppetgodpuppet Member Posts: 1,416
    Originally posted by Floris


    First off all you can play WoW in EU on a US server I did so a few weeks back. Its just download the trail version. I understood that Blizard fix this after complainnts from pll. I like to play on servers that are US first you dont have a discusion what we speak in a group mostly just english will do second i like it that i dont have to fight for a sertain mob. I loved it when i was in EQ2 and evry mob you needed was just up and not just killed by a group
    Er... If you had taken the time to read this thread, you will have noticed that I stated I subscripted to the US servers from retail onwards and LOST  my account due to Blizzard's suspicioun of me being an eastern european gold farmer. READ. BEFORE. REPLYING.

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