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Is EQ2 more fun?
healz4u
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Hello, All!
First, I am very impressed with the quality of posts on this forum and happy I found it.
Second, I have around 8 years of mmorpg experience. I just recently quit EQ to play Vanguard. I have quit Vanguard until the game is fixed, improved and then enhanced.
Third, I am playing WoW but not sure I want to continue. Therefore, is EQ 2 "fun" and better than Vanguard? That is, can you solo in EQ 2 and is the world large? Is mobility a pain?
If you have any ideas on Everquest 2, I would really appreciate them. I am looking for a mmorpg to play full-time, but I have not been able to find a suitable one yet.
Thanks!
First, I am very impressed with the quality of posts on this forum and happy I found it.
Second, I have around 8 years of mmorpg experience. I just recently quit EQ to play Vanguard. I have quit Vanguard until the game is fixed, improved and then enhanced.
Third, I am playing WoW but not sure I want to continue. Therefore, is EQ 2 "fun" and better than Vanguard? That is, can you solo in EQ 2 and is the world large? Is mobility a pain?
If you have any ideas on Everquest 2, I would really appreciate them. I am looking for a mmorpg to play full-time, but I have not been able to find a suitable one yet.
Thanks!
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To me... No. It feels like EQ2 is on a stand-still. Nothing is happening with it. But then again, I've been playing since the start.
The fact that they hardly could throw in a decent looking armor for 2 years shows how evolving this is. Nothing impressing in the game either, never got that real "sweet!!" feeling.
I did enjoy the combat though, found it twice as fun as I did WOW combat.
For the other questions:
You can solo in EQ2, easily. Will you enjoy it all that much? Doubt it.
World if fairly lage, but feel small due to all the zoneing.
Mobility isn't much of a pain.
I've been more impressed by Vanguard than I have in all my EQ2 and WOW career (mainly cause it feels more like a real fantasy game than the others) and am all for seeing where it goes.
I wouldn't recommend EQ2 to any of my friends. If they really, really needed to play something they could always try it for free though
(if that offer is still out there), may just love it but to me it's dead due to inability to keep up.
But hey, maybe they'll add a new expansion before you hit max. One filled with all the goodies that would make it fun again. That is a longshot though, as they failed to do so in all other expansions.
If I see EQ2 kinds of expansions to Vanguard, I'm out after the first one. Unless im not too into it by then! =oD
(And how can you be impressed by the quality of the posts here?! haha)
I am downloading the trials (both of them lol) right now. I will see if I like it, try to feel it out.
I really want to play a MMORPG, and perhaps I was expecting too much from Vanguard. However, to be fair, they promised a lot.
Everyone is different when it comes to mmo's that they find fun in any sense. Some people can't stand grinding, like me, and some don't mine. While others are into the lore of the game, or doing quests and socializing. Since you've been playin for some many years it just best to give them all a whirl and see what strikes your fancy.
Thats what I've done, played every mmo that has come out. I left EQ2 for Vanguard, and im glad i did. It might be a really unfinished in some parts and buggy and the crafting makes me want to kill myself with all the complications, hence my name. But! ive had more fun testing every game on the market then sticking with one game. was never to partial to wow though, not a bad game, the community just killed it for me
You probably were, as many others. At least your tears aren't running as most posters. That's why you're going to get good replies apart from the bites this will take.
Hope you enjoy it. Make a fae tank, it's the only way to go.
(emm, don't actually do that if you plan on soloing most of the time... hm..I don't remember how well tanks soloed...)
I spent almost 2 years on and off waiting to get to the fun part, each zone calling me to level to get onto the next zone that also wasn't much fun.
Vanguard IMHO is a hell of alot different.The world feels like a world, not like a collection of zones(or levels) where you progress in a pretty linear way. Sure you can stick to a linear-ish path in Vanguard but go off the beaten track and there are even more mobs, more dungeons. It's proper adventuring.
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I shouldn't be posting here as I can't compare, I have not played VG. But I can give half an answer and my impression on EQ2:
Great game, beautiful graphics and enjoyable variety of races. Collections and home-decoration are there for immersiveness, such as collecting books to build a library of your own, pets, or items from across the world to help you (in-house items that actually buff you).
The classes play well also, my favorites being Monk and Warden. The newest addition to the landscape, home of the Fae, is an amazing place and feels very much alive.
There is PvP if you desire, although there is no pvp-centric content and you must look for fights. As a Warden I enjoyed fighting anyone, and usually won (even +4). That may be a sign of imbalance.
The PvE is nice, there are some interesting creatures to fight and the instances are done well. The expansions they added have provided a wide range of places to hunt.
There is alot to be said, you will definately have some content to explore and will probably find yourself liking the game, most do.
I'm looking forward to the day when I can safely install VG and compare.. but for the record EQ2 was released with holes as well, such as the crafting prof I chose on release, all of the recipe books were empty - they just hadn't made any recipes for my craft.
EQ2 is a great game, it has wonderful graphics, years ahead of most. It has great game play and a wealth of lore to explore (set 500 years after EQ1 when the moons have broken apart causing the Norrath to be smashed and in the process of being rediscovered.)
The game is constantly updating, since launch they have added 3 huge expansions, 2 really fun adventure packs, added in numerous new dungeons and areas in their monthly updates, added new races, revamped the tradeskill so its now fun, updated main zones to show the change of the seasons and more importantly, have listened to their customers and continue to talk to them and implement the better suggestions. The team has been consistanly hardworking, and each monthly update is greatly anticipated. Monthly events, new quests, new items, and a fantastic end game where you hit 70, and then find you have tons to do, just all add to the fun. The community is very mature, active, and helpful.
Vanguard, has been out one month, so imho it is far too early to judge it yet. So far the devs have been working hard to fix bugs rather than add new content. The graphics, nice indeed, but look dated. The UI is horrid. The game play is ok, but again imho I think its far too restrictive. In EQ2 you can do what you want in combat when you want to, in VG you are totally controlled. Buttons light up when things happen and you have to hit them before they dull out, everything is on a global cooldown, so press a button, wait for all buttons to appear, press another button. It gets dull. The world is vast and huge, and good fun to explore, but the levelling is very very slow and the XP debt (where you lose a ton of xp when you die) makes it very hard for casual or solo players. The community so far is very segregated, due mostly to the lack of official forums.
My guild, all who came from EQ1, and moved to EQ2 where they loved it and played for 2 years, all decided to go to Vanguard. Three weeks later they were all back playing EQ2. I still play VG part time, as I want to explore the world and give it a chance.
World of Warcraft by comparrison is very good fun for level 1-59. It then becomes a forced grouping/raid game. Since the one expansion (in two years) you can now play solo to level 70, then you have the choice of doing one of 6 five man dungeons, which have to be done over and over and over again in order to build faction, so you can then do the SAME dungeons at a harder level. But its a good game if you want to solo or casual for a few months. But not one you can play for years on end if you are someone who plays alot. The community is very young minded, with lots of 'net speak, swearing and griefing.
This is all just my opinion, and of course others will greatly disagree. My best advice to you would be, download the trials, play them up a few levels (in EQ2 get the Trial of the Fae and start in Kelethin) and see what you think.
BTW, if you get Warcraft you will need to get the expansion seperatly. If you get Vanguard there is just the main box to get. If you get EQ2 you can buy Echoes of Faydwar which contains all the 3 expansions, the main game and the 2 adventure packs for one price.
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
The WoW end-game with its forced-raiding and grouping IN ADDITION to faction grinds (shudders) sounds awful. If I really enjoy EQ2, perhaps I will cancel my WoW account, because I would hate to achieve the terminal level only to not enjoy the game. LOL.
Thanks!
Healz;
I'm in a very similar situation to you. I started on EQ and played it for a number of years. It was my first mmorpg.
I started playing EQ2 on its launch day. At that time, my system had a hard time handling it and I thought the gameplay lacking.
Since then, I have been attempting to reclaim that old EQ feeling through a number of Mmorpgs. Most notable has been Wow, Vanguard etc. I too find Vanguard unplayable at this time. As well, I find Wow too easy and the community very difficult to get along with. With very few good options out there, I went back to EQ2 recently.
I think they have struck the balance with EQ2. They have made some real attempts at adding content, cleaning up the coding and making the game playable for all types. As well, the community is much much better then Wow, it is friendly and helpful. I think EQ2 is definitely worth a try.
If you decide to purchase it, make sure you get Echoes of Faydwer retail box. It includes all of the expansions in one shot.
Good luck and happy gaming.
I really look forward to trying this game out! =D
If you get EQ2, it is extremely important that you get Echoes of Faydwer and start your character in Kelethin.
The lowbie quests in the "old world" are not nearly as good as those on Faydwer.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.
Would you believe I am still patching the game?
I have a question, if anyone knows the answer, I should play the new race and start in Kelethin if I buy the game?
Thanks a lot! =D
Look up racial traits on a fan site and pick one that appeals to you.
Your choices: Fae, Wood Elf, High Elf, Half Elf, Dwarf, Gnome (?)
The one thing I will take issue with is that the world is large at all- it isn't. It's tiny. You can ride a horse from any point in the world to any other in 15-20 minutes or less.(well, with a boat ride/teleport across the non-existent past the first few yard oceans). people complain about the size of LOTRO- but it takes longer to run across the Shire than it does to go from Qeynos to Kelethin in EQ2. And it feels even smaller because there are zone lines everywhere. You may have a good time if you go in with realistic expectations
Bite me, Turbine.
In terms of races, I am thinking Wood Elf; they are so hot.
I am going to actually try all the classes and races combinations that I can to try to get a "feel." It seems that, from the forums I have been researching, that people are overall happy with the game.
I look forward to trying it. If anyone else it going to start soon as well, definitely let me know so we might play together.
I prefer VG. More group oriented content.
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In fact, that is why I am quitting Vanguard in addition to gameplay issues to performance and so-forth.
I should stress that I enjoy grouping, but I cannot stand forced-grouping; I just do not have the will to LFG as I did in Everquest. However, I did have three accounts in EQ to "solo" when necessary. LOL.
Anyway, I am happy if you enjoy Vanguard; it is just not for me. =D
The models and the artwork, if you have a nice computer and set the graphics to high, are some of the best looking in any MMO. And thats not a personal opinion, its won awards, and been nominated as such even by this site (as recent as last month).
It has bells / boats to take you to other places due to the players requesting them, as it took too long to get there otherwise. The world is huge, yes you can run to somewhere quickly, but thats due to the design, and shortcuts, and placements of the zone lines, not to the size. The zones are big, and the quests placed well so it takes a long time to play through. With all the new expansions and zones, it has more than tripled in the last year.
This, imho, is a beautiful game :
"When people don't know much about something, they tend to fill in the blanks the way they want them to be filled in. They are almost always disappointed." - Will Wright
So far, the game is beautiful and the character creation is the most in-depth I have seen.
I am patching the fae now before I progress too far on the other, as I can play that without end. I need to make sure I get the time in to try the FAE while I can. =D
Great posts.
The models and the artwork, if you have a nice computer and set the graphics to high, are some of the best looking in any MMO. And thats not a personal opinion, its won awards, and been nominated as such even by this site (as recent as last month).
It has bells / boats to take you to other places due to the players requesting them, as it took too long to get there otherwise. The world is huge, yes you can run to somewhere quickly, but thats due to the design, and shortcuts, and placements of the zone lines, not to the size. The zones are big, and the quests placed well so it takes a long time to play through. With all the new expansions and zones, it has more than tripled in the last year.
This, imho, is a beautiful game :
It's all subjective. I ran on the highest settings, and think it looks like crap- not because of the tech used, but because of the way everything looks like it's made from low-grade vinyl. Just an opinion. But the size isn't opinion. There's not a zone in the game that can't be crossed in 5 minutes or less. That is tiny, period.Bite me, Turbine.
EQ2 kept my attention and was fun for a year and change.
Vanguard managed about a month. All it has going for it is the "newness" factor, when that wears off you're left with cookie cutter gameplay and boring content.
People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.