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If those idiots at SOE just made a classic SWG server

Why dont they listen to the customers honeslty companys gotta remember if it wasnt for the players/customers the would have no company. So if the masses at SWG want their classic server things before NGE why not give it to them? It would seem they would gain alot of profit from it.

 

They should do like EQ open up a classic server and see what happens though EQs classic server wouldnt stay classic forever but as they saw it was a major success.

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  • GruntyGrunty Member EpicPosts: 8,657
    If the progression servers of EQ were so successful then why are they being merged into one server so soon?
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  • VallenRoVallenRo Member Posts: 27
    Originally posted by grunty

    If the progression servers of EQ were so successful then why are they being merged into one server so soon?

     

    Because the good times end with the release expansions after kunark they were doing great before then.

  • whitedelightwhitedelight Member Posts: 1,544
    Because if SOE touches it, it will turn to garbage anyways, so there is no need to try.

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  • KorususKorusus Member UncommonPosts: 831
    This is one situation I've always thought was interesting (note: I didn't play SWG after the first month it was released so I'm not totally familiar with the situation except what I've read). 



    Why after so long will they not admit they fucked up?  Has there ever been such a large exodus from a game all at once over a single easily identified issue?  Can LucasArts/SOE really be that stubborn, read STUPID?



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  • MuffinStumpMuffinStump Member UncommonPosts: 474

    If you build it they will come?


    ....okay, sorry about that. :)

    I would think that it would only highlight the NGE changes as a mistake. They seem more than willing to move on. Ah well, soon there will be other sci-fi options...

  • SnaKeySnaKey Member Posts: 3,386

    Yeah, well I think the problems lies in the fact that they may have changed the game so much they would have to literally go back and reprogram it on a large scale. Maybe not from scratch, but they would have to implement a huge patch that would basically be two full games that will work with eachother.

    They screwed up. My buddy started playing again recently and I was watching him play tonight. It was a sad sad sight, tbh. It's basically a crafters game now. Looks very boring. I never played Pre-NGE but I got bored with the game in about 15days. Too bad I didn't know there was a free trial when I went out and bought it.

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  • AngelboundAngelbound Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 1,437
    Kind of how the beetles use to say everything the government touches turns to shit, alot of greedy people in the world. Oh and I do not listen to the beetles personally:)
  • ZarraaZarraa Member Posts: 481
    Originally posted by VallenRo

    Originally posted by grunty

    If the progression servers of EQ were so successful then why are they being merged into one server so soon?

     

    Because the good times end with the release expansions after kunark they were doing great before then.



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  • ObraikObraik Member, Newbie CommonPosts: 7,261

    Ah, the rose coloured glasses of Pre-cu...

    At this point, opening pre-cu servers would be a waste, they've missed the boat.  They have however brought back a number of pre-nge features and the game is actually picking up in population again.  There are Heavy servers again :)

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  • GameloadingGameloading Member UncommonPosts: 14,182
    Originally posted by VallenRo


    Why dont they listen to the customers honeslty companys gotta remember if it wasnt for the players/customers the would have no company. So if the masses at SWG want their classic server things before NGE why not give it to them? It would seem they would gain alot of profit from it.
     
    They should do like EQ open up a classic server and see what happens though EQs classic server wouldnt stay classic forever but as they saw it was a major success.
    Because customers don't have access to the budget and financing of SOE, Because 99% of the customers did not follow a bussiness course, and because all customers care about FUN, not PROFIT. thats why companies like SOE don't listen to their players.
  • JMoney95JMoney95 Member Posts: 211

    Actually devs etc dont listen to players because players are 99% retarded. As seen on these forums.

    One guy wants one thing, another wants the exact opposite. ex somehow classes in games are considered overpowered, underpowered and balanced by different people, who do you listen to?

    Examples from JUST WoW, on WoW's release the honor system wasn't done yet, people cried and cried, they released it, people cried and cried because they say it ruined world pvp.

    Dishonorable kills in WoW. People cried and cried that others were griefing them by killing all he quest npcs etc, they put in dks to stop it, people cried and cried about the dks and they should be removed.

    People cried and cried about the honor system in WoW, how "casual" players could never get good gear from it, they changed it, people cried and cried about how all the work they pu in was lost and that all the former "high warlords" etc should get free crap.

    Every few weeks people whine about wanting a new server to start fresh, then people whine about low pop servers and they should be merged etc. If they merge people will whine about not wanting larger populations and how it was "fine before"

    Players condradict themselves and each other, how the hell do you listen to the players if the players don't even know what they want?

    If MMO players werent such morons things would be alot better.

  • retrospecticretrospectic Member UncommonPosts: 1,466
    Originally posted by VallenRo


    Why dont they listen to the customers honeslty companys gotta remember if it wasnt for the players/customers the would have no company. So if the masses at SWG want their classic server things before NGE why not give it to them? It would seem they would gain alot of profit from it.
     
    They should do like EQ open up a classic server and see what happens though EQs classic server wouldnt stay classic forever but as they saw it was a major success.


    It would cost too much to maintain two version of the same game.  It isn't going to happen.
  • sekrogsekrog Member Posts: 261
    Originally posted by retrospectic

    Originally posted by VallenRo


    Why dont they listen to the customers honeslty companys gotta remember if it wasnt for the players/customers the would have no company. So if the masses at SWG want their classic server things before NGE why not give it to them? It would seem they would gain alot of profit from it.
     
    They should do like EQ open up a classic server and see what happens though EQs classic server wouldnt stay classic forever but as they saw it was a major success.


    It would cost too much to maintain two version of the same game.  It isn't going to happen.



    Cost shouldn't be the issue. If a company like Mythic (before EA purchased them), which was half the size of SOE, was able to open up three "classic" servers that were pre-TOA, I'm quite certain that SOE could do the same.

    The issue IMHO...pride.

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  • DuraheLLDuraheLL Member Posts: 2,951
    Originally posted by whitedelight

    Because if SOE touches it, it will turn to garbage anyways, so there is no need to try.
    That's the TRUTH right there. Case closed :)

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  • TniceTnice Member Posts: 563

    Previously I did not understand why people hated SOE so much.  I never played SWG.  I played and loved EQ1 and EQ2.  However, with them releasing Vanguard in it's current state it appears that they only care about profit not the product.  It is a "we will fix it later" attitude.

    I am sort of conflicted because EQ2 is such a high quality, high value product but with Vanguard I have buyers remorse in the biggest way possible.  It puts a new light on the company for me.  As a matter of fact I have held off buying the PS3 because of it.  I know they are different divisions but any company that can put out something like Vanguard and make people pay for it has something wrong at it's very heart.

    I think I now understand the SWG fans a little.

  • EnigmaEnigma Member UncommonPosts: 11,384
    Originally posted by Tnice


    Previously I did not understand why people hated SOE so much.  I never played SWG. 



    That's why you dont understand

    SWG was talented at completely destroying a game.  SOE was also the first company to use SWG and turning into a completely different game WHILE the game was already live.  First MMO to ever do this and last to ever do this.  DEVs everywhere use the SWG fiasco as a "what not to do" to try to improve a MMO.

    It just turned from bad to worse and the publishers and developers over their was just  braindead is so man ways than one.

    People who have to create conspiracy and hate threads to further a cause lacks in intellectual comprehension of diversity.

  • zoey121zoey121 Member Posts: 926
    Enigma, another case of the customers after the fact, yes we can blame soe for the cu and nge nightmare, but what about those that continue to pay to play?  They also bare some responbility for it still being alive
  • JMoney95JMoney95 Member Posts: 211
    Originally posted by Tnice


    Previously I did not understand why people hated SOE so much.  I never played SWG.  I played and loved EQ1 and EQ2.  However, with them releasing Vanguard in it's current state it appears that they only care about profit not the product.  It is a "we will fix it later" attitude.
    I am sort of conflicted because EQ2 is such a high quality, high value product but with Vanguard I have buyers remorse in the biggest way possible.  It puts a new light on the company for me.  As a matter of fact I have held off buying the PS3 because of it.  I know they are different divisions but any company that can put out something like Vanguard and make people pay for it has something wrong at it's very heart.
    I think I now understand the SWG fans a little.



    Sigil made and released Vanguard, not SOE.

     

  • PTEDPTED Member Posts: 464

    ...maybe they are afraid they would look weak if they went back on some changes they made.

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