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EQ2 review: WOW lacking adults?

No its that WoWs population is so huge we have all types of people adults/immature people/kids/tight asses what have you. Its not like a small population game like EQ2 where the community is close nit and im sure the town of EQ2 has their drunken idiots also.

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  • TymoraTymora Member UncommonPosts: 1,295
    This may be true, but from day 1, I've noticed the immaturity running wild on the WoW servers, while in EQ2 thigns always seems more "adult".  I don't know how or why, but lots of players seem to agree that EQ2's community is very good and WoW's is not.  I haven't been able to find a good community on any server in WoW after trying 3-4 servers.  I played the same original character on Antonic Balye in EQ2 and found the perfect community for me.  I guess it's just luck sometimes, since there are so many players and so many mmos.  You just have to happen to fall into a good crowd.
  • MontaronxMontaronx Member UncommonPosts: 273
    this is because Wow can be played with pre-paid cards which they sell everywhere.... if u either go to a barber or a toy store. EQ2 on the otherhand is creditcard required ( atleast in my county then dont sell em pre paid cards) hence the fact the immature brats in WoW

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  • FoodoolawsFoodoolaws Member Posts: 212
    they have prepaid cards for EQ2
  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by Foodoolaws

    No its that WoWs population is so huge we have all types of people adults/immature people/kids/tight asses what have you. Its not like a small population game like EQ2 where the community is close nit and im sure the town of EQ2 has their drunken idiots also.



    Every game has their immature players, some more, some less. If WOW simply had more of everybody, one should easily be able to find a decent group of mature players, even if you had to look around first. I could not find one either, like the above poster. I'm sure such groups exist, and I in fact  now know where to find one (after I gave up on the game for good ironically). However, the fact remains, WOW does have a significantly lower level of (acting) maturity among its average community members when compared to other games on the market.

     

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  • Gammit100Gammit100 Member UncommonPosts: 439
    Originally posted by Tymora

    This may be true, but from day 1, I've noticed the immaturity running wild on the WoW servers, while in EQ2 thigns always seems more "adult".  I don't know how or why, but lots of players seem to agree that EQ2's community is very good and WoW's is not.  I haven't been able to find a good community on any server in WoW after trying 3-4 servers.  I played the same original character on Antonic Balye in EQ2 and found the perfect community for me.  I guess it's just luck sometimes, since there are so many players and so many mmos.  You just have to happen to fall into a good crowd.

     

    I've noticed the same thing, on the same server.

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  • FoodoolawsFoodoolaws Member Posts: 212
    Well i guess you guys got stuck in the levels 1-20 areas beyond that there are very mature helpful players especcially on older servers like i said WoWs pop is big and there are alot of mature players in WoW who are grateful to answer and help with things.
  • BakgrindBakgrind Member UncommonPosts: 423

    Maturity or lack there of  can be found in every MMO out there. But having played both games for an extended period of time I'd say while WOW can show it's immaturity EQ II can bring out the perverts and stalkers  that get 'excited' upon seeing pixilated toon  in  that game.  I can't tell you how many people my girl friend   had to put on ignore and report while  playing EQ II due to this. It was truely mind boggling.  And looking at her ignore list on WOW there is not a single one listed.  I guess hanging out with the kiddoes instead of the older mature crowd has its advantages.

  • AelfinnAelfinn Member Posts: 3,857
    Originally posted by Foodoolaws

    Well i guess you guys got stuck in the levels 1-20 areas beyond that there are very mature helpful players especcially on older servers like i said WoWs pop is big and there are alot of mature players in WoW who are grateful to answer and help with things.



    Sure, when you have 8 million subscribers, even if there is only 1/100 mature players to immature, that is still a lot.

    Incidently, I at least am not at all just talking about the noob zones.

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  • healz4uhealz4u Member Posts: 1,065
    I have been playing WoW (in addition to trying EQ 2 which I personally like more) and I have found it to be a mixed bag.  Specifically, I believe that every strata of society plays WoW: young, old, happy, unhappy, etc.  It is a remarkable product that appeals to so many different people. 





    Overall, I really enjoy the leveling up aspect of WoW, although it is a challenge at lower levels.  Further, some people I have met already in WoW have made the experience much more enjoyable; we are now forming a guild. 





    Yes, there is considerable immaturity in WoW, but I never got into "fights" with people except for in Vanguard (and I have played Everquest for nearly 8 years with limited problems LOL - but I did play 3 accounts and had a friend that played 3 accounts among other friends). 





    Conversely, there is considerable maturity in WoW. 
  • iddmitriiddmitri Member UncommonPosts: 671

    Foodoolaws has only 3 posts. /points /laughs

    Post something funny please.

  • thaakthaak Member Posts: 67
    Originally posted by healz4u

    Overall, I really enjoy the leveling up aspect of WoW, although it is a challenge at lower levels. 

    Seriously? I didn't think there was a moment in my entire WoW life that I said "Golly gee...this is one tough set of levels, I tell you what."



    Actually, there was time where I DID find it was hard. When I was bored out of my mind.



    Anyway, this topic isn't about that, so I'll shut up about it.



    Every game has it's immature players. Playing the short amount of time I did in Everquest 2, I noticed a helluva lot less immature people than mature. WoW, just seemed to be tons of them. There is no "fact" that WoW has more immature people, it is a different experience for different people. My experience was that WoW had more. If you played WoW and found lots of mature people, good for you. You got lucky. :)

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  • healz4uhealz4u Member Posts: 1,065
    Originally posted by thaak



    Seriously? I didn't think there was a moment in my entire WoW life that I said "Golly gee...this is one tough set of levels, I tell you what."



    Actually, there was time where I DID find it was hard. When I was bored out of my mind.



    Anyway, this topic isn't about that, so I'll shut up about it.



    Yes.  I am playing a Dwarf Priest.  Many of my friends in the game that I have known for years told me to play a Dwarf Priest and to go Shadow, which I am doing.  I am level... 12, I think.  It might just be me, but I have found playing a Priest to be challenging.  LOL. 




  • bonobotheorybonobotheory Member UncommonPosts: 1,007
    Originally posted by Foodoolaws

    Well i guess you guys got stuck in the levels 1-20 areas beyond that there are very mature helpful players especcially on older servers like i said WoWs pop is big and there are alot of mature players in WoW who are grateful to answer and help with things.
    That may be true, but for every mature, friendly, and helpful person, there are a hundred throbbing assholes.  In the end, it was the community that killed WoW for me. In six months of playing EQ2, I've run across fewer smacktards than I did in a typical week of WoW. In WoW, I had to purge my ignore list every few days because it filled up and I needed to ignore more people. In EQ2, I don't even know the limit of the ignore list - I have less than ten people on it.



    MMORPGs used to be about community. The game itself didn't matter nearly as much as the people you played it with. Most of use old-timers still remember that. But WoW has attracted millions of basement-dwelling shitfarmers who have never player an MMORPG before, who know nothing about community, and who really don't know how to behave in a social situation. 
  • Tomberry73Tomberry73 Member Posts: 11
    Why developers don't make a game with "asmallworld" like criterias?
  • ste2000ste2000 Member EpicPosts: 6,194
    Originally posted by Foodoolaws

    No its that WoWs population is so huge we have all types of people adults/immature people/kids/tight asses what have you. Its not like a small population game like EQ2 where the community is close nit and im sure the town of EQ2 has their drunken idiots also.
    You are talking a bit of bullshit mate.

    Of course WoW has more people, but when we talk about how many kid/mature population there is in any given game, we talk about percentage not numbers.



    Reality is that WoW has overall more kids playing (in percentage) than any other MMORPG out there.

    In EQ2 kids shouting abuse to other players or generally behaving like asses, are ripped to pieces by more mature people, in short they don't have the right environment to prosperate.

    In WoW they have, because the majority of players are like-minded.

    That's as simple as that.

  • EqvaliserEqvaliser Member Posts: 74
    well put..

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  • DrFodDrFod Member Posts: 63
    Originally posted by Foodoolaws

    No its that WoWs population is so huge we have all types of people adults/immature people/kids/tight asses what have you. Its not like a small population game like EQ2 where the community is close nit and im sure the town of EQ2 has their drunken idiots also.
    I wish people would put this misconception to rest. WoW does not have a huge population, in fact it has one of the lowest per server populations of any MMO.
  • HadesprimeHadesprime Member Posts: 303
    Originally posted by DrFod

    Originally posted by Foodoolaws

    No its that WoWs population is so huge we have all types of people adults/immature people/kids/tight asses what have you. Its not like a small population game like EQ2 where the community is close nit and im sure the town of EQ2 has their drunken idiots also.
    I wish people would put this misconception to rest. WoW does not have a huge population, in fact it has one of the lowest per server populations of any MMO.



    lol I was laughing at the crap spewed in this thead but this one takes the cake.



    What do you base this observation on exactly ? It has exactly the same server ratios as the standard non massive sever type games. The only other games to support way more than these eq like games is Eve and AO thats it.



    The rest all support the 100 to 3 to 4K number. WoW is no different and in fact on servers that are rated as full there are well in exccess of 3000 players per full rated server. Which is on the definite high end for the small custer type server games that WoW is and just about any other MMO out there.



    As far as WoW's community its a pure math to ratio numbers game with one mitigating factor popularity.



    Your kiddie/jerk factor to mature factor changes by total population number but at the same time is dependant on consistent numbers across all MMO's. WoW gets a bit more of an elevated score because its the most popular MMO out there atm and therefore logically draws more of the kiddie types. This concept is prooved postive with my recent LOTRO beta experience which reminded me of the WoW types alot and that game could be the next kiddie type draw. LOTR is still a well done game and the types it will draw are in no way reflected onto the quality of the game.



    So EQ2 has a PERCIEVED mature playerbase because it is a sub 150K subscriber game. Your kiddie and jerk numbers are naturally lower due to pure mathematics and statistics. Factor in that EQ2 is as well not the most popular game right now. Cause make no mistake if SOE were to pull off a miracle and made EQ2 so kick ass that it became a popular game again its PERCIEVED mature playerbase would go down the crapper very very fast.



    So mate up above there might wanna watch who is exactly shoveling the crap. Its not so simple.
  • smartkidzsmartkidz Member Posts: 252
    Originally posted by DrFod

    I wish people would put this misconception to rest. WoW does not have a huge population, in fact it has one of the lowest per server populations of any MMO.
        I just can't believe that till i see facts. The massive lag makes me think otherwise (still a good game though).

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  • FireDartFireDart Member Posts: 16

    The more mainstream something becomes, the more kids it will attract.  Its really that simple.  Kids love other kids.  Kids will go to events just to hang out with other kids, that alone is enough to draw a crowd.  Its for this reason that public dances, public playgrounds, public pools, public beaches, public restaurants, public shopping malls, public events and public anything basically draws lots of kids. 

    If you want older communities then you go to private events, private beaches, private restaurants, private pools, private anything.  Private communities are usually smaller niche communities, and they usually pay good money to escape the problems of the mainstream general kiddie atmosphere.

    So niche communities generally are older communities, unless of course they specifically cater to childern like a private daycare.

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